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Do you recommend setting up that authentication in couchdb's users and security tables or via a front end proxy to couchdb using mod_access or something similar? [00:44] isaacs: davehamptonusa: whatever's easier. [00:44] isaacs: davehamptonusa: couch's security tables can probably do what you want, but mod_access has a lot of configurability [00:45] davehamptonusa: will npm prompt for user/password on GETS if security is in place at the couchdb level? [00:45] davehamptonusa: as it does for publishing? [00:45] isaacs: davehamptonusa: no. you can set the always-auth config flag to make it always send auth [00:45] isaacs: davehamptonusa: i mean, not by default, unless you hit that flag [00:46] davehamptonusa: ok. So, without thhe auth-config flag - it will just fail to get [00:47] davehamptonusa: issacs: s/always-config/always-auth/ [00:47] isaacs: davehamptonusa: yeah [00:47] isaacs: davehamptonusa: i don't think it's smart enough to respond to a 401 by re-requesting with auth [00:47] gr4yscale has joined the channel [00:51] davehamptonusa: Does always_auth send what is stored in .npmrc, or prompt before connecting? [00:51] hexTech has joined the channel [00:52] dreamr has joined the channel [00:52] isaacs: davehamptonusa: what's in .npmrc [00:52] isaacs: davehamptonusa: so you still have to npm adduser [00:52] davehamptonusa: isaacs: the email and _auth from publishing [00:52] isaacs: davehamptonusa: just the _auth [00:52] isaacs: davehamptonusa: the email is just for setting the maintainers field [00:52] replore_ has joined the channel [00:52] replore has joined the channel [00:53] davehamptonusa: isaacs: so the auth is more of a token [00:53] isaacs: davehamptonusa: it's Base64 [00:53] davehamptonusa: isaacs: awesome. Then I'll just make a security document and manage from there [00:54] davehamptonusa: isaacs: From within couchdb that is... [00:54] isaacs: davehamptonusa: that should work, then [00:55] mcav` has joined the channel [00:55] davehamptonusa: isaacs: Thanks for your help. P.S. Always love the intelligent and snarky docs and responses in github. Fun to read. [00:56] samuelgoodwin has joined the channel [00:56] isaacs: thanks? [00:56] isaacs: :) [00:57] dreamr: If anyone wants to be an angel and check this out for me... https://gist.github.com/1880284 [00:57] dreamr: I cannot get relationships to work with nodejs and mongoose :( [00:57] hotchkiss has joined the channel [00:57] jesusabdullah: You should base your relationships on love and trust instead. [00:58] dlg: amen [00:58] jesusabdullah: ladies dig trust [00:58] jesusabdullah: haha [00:59] davehamptonusa: isaacs: Yes. Was a compliment. Snarky without going too far is an art. This is one of my favorites: https://github.com/isaacs/npm/issues/1204 [00:59] spcshpopr8r has joined the channel [01:00] spcshpopr8r: hi #node.js is there something funky going on between 6.10 and 6.11 that would affect the way request parameters are handled in http? [01:01] postwait has joined the channel [01:01] ashishg has joined the channel [01:02] dreamr: no one? https://gist.github.com/1880284 [01:05] westg has joined the channel [01:05] dubenstein has joined the channel [01:05] criswell has joined the channel [01:06] trotter has joined the channel [01:07] superlou has joined the channel [01:07] dreamdust1 has joined the channel [01:08] mrkurt: how can I get the fqdn of the current host in nodejs? [01:08] mrkurt: os.hostname returns the short hostname, I need something like Socket.gethostbyname in ruby/python [01:10] spcshpopr8r: wtf....I deploy a little express app on a fedora or a ubuntu machine and I'm having all sorta weird shit happening with routes and request parameters [01:11] westg: be more descriptive ^ [01:11] spcshpopr8r: ...however, it works on my local machine (arch linux) and on my buddies box gentoo [01:12] spcshpopr8r: node 6.11 on my buddy's machine and 6.10 on mine...express same 2.5.8 [01:12] spcshpopr8r: westg: I'll try [01:12] tkahn6_ has joined the channel [01:13] Skaag has joined the channel [01:13] westg: express isn't working in general? [01:13] StanlySoManly1 has joined the channel [01:14] spcshpopr8r: express is working just fine on my local machine and my buddies...but we deploy to a box that's running fedora only real difference and request parameters are disappearing when moving to next() function in routes [01:14] dubenstein has joined the channel [01:16] igl has joined the channel [01:18] dubenstein has joined the channel [01:18] bkaney has joined the channel [01:19] abraxas has joined the channel [01:19] wingie: isaacs: there? [01:20] isaacs: hi [01:20] spcshpopr8r: hallo...can any y'all confirm whether this is legit http://nodejs.tchol.org/ [01:20] sven_oostenbrink has joined the channel [01:20] spcshpopr8r: I've got funky shit happening with node, express on fedora [01:20] isaacs: spcshpopr8r: i can't vouch for it [01:20] isaacs: spcshpopr8r: i'd recommend building from source. [01:20] spcshpopr8r: ^ again...same app working peachy on arch and gentoo [01:20] spcshpopr8r: isaacs: done that [01:20] isaacs: spcshpopr8r: chrislea's stuff is pretty ok [01:20] isaacs: but that's deb, not rpm [01:21] spcshpopr8r: isaacs: chrislea? do you have a link? [01:21] sorensen__ has joined the channel [01:21] wingie: isaacs: i recall that you could specify in the package.json so that you could do require('foo/bar') to require a sub file instead of the whole package [01:21] phz has joined the channel [01:21] wingie: but now i can't find that info .. you can still do that with npm? [01:22] bindr has joined the channel [01:22] mikeal has joined the channel [01:22] davehamptonusa has left the channel [01:22] blubberbob has joined the channel [01:23] astropirate has joined the channel [01:24] phoenixz has joined the channel [01:24] phoenixz has joined the channel [01:24] isaacs: wingie: no. [01:24] isaacs: wingie: i mean, you can [01:24] isaacs: wingie: just put a file called "bar" in the root of your package. [01:24] willwhit_ has joined the channel [01:24] isaacs: wingie: or do require("foo/lib/path/to/bar.js") [01:24] isaacs: wingie: ie, packages are just folder. [01:24] isaacs: you can dive right into them [01:25] wingie: isaacs: ah so you removed the need for speciying them in package.json? [01:25] xaq has joined the channel [01:25] ningu has joined the channel [01:25] dylanvee has joined the channel [01:26] themiddleman_itv has joined the channel [01:26] dylanvee: Hi all, quick newbie question: how do I override an exported method? e.g. https://github.com/visionmedia/reds/blob/master/lib/reds.js#L48 [01:26] isaacs: wingie: exactly [01:26] isaacs: spcshpopr8r: https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js [01:26] jlaire has joined the channel [01:27] dylanvee: I did "var reds = require('reds'); reds.createClient = function () { // blablabla }" but it isn't getting picked up. [01:27] isaacs: dylanvee: var reds = require("reds"); reds.createClient = myFunction [01:27] Wa has joined the channel [01:27] dylanvee: isaacs: Hmm, that's what I thought [01:28] isaacs: dylanvee: are you setting it *after* already creating a client? [01:28] dylanvee: isaacs: I have my own client that I want createClient to return [01:28] dylanvee: isaacs: Right now I just threw in a console.log to make sure it's getting called, and it's not [01:30] papachan has joined the channel [01:30] looopy has joined the channel [01:31] wingie: isaacs: cool works great [01:31] tmike has joined the channel [01:31] willwhite has joined the channel [01:32] dylanvee: isaacs: oops, I put it right after require('reds') and everything works now. sorry to waste your time! [01:32] isaacs: dylanvee: :) [01:33] ningu: maybe I'm just a newbie, but it's been nice to find that almost every problem I've had has been due to my own mistakes :) [01:33] ningu: I ran into one today with jsdom that was different [01:33] ningu: it has a memory leak apparently [01:33] colinclark has joined the channel [01:34] ningu: but I solved that by running one child process per file I wanted to scrape [01:34] dreamr: can someone please look at this? property('raceId', { type: ObjectId, ref: 'Race'}); [01:34] dreamr: oops [01:34] dreamr: this https://gist.github.com/1880284 [01:35] maxogden: oh dude are you making a captain planet app? [01:35] maxogden: line 10 of unit.js sounds promising [01:36] ningu: haha [01:36] markq has joined the channel [01:36] wingie: ningu: what validation lib are you using? [01:37] igl1 has joined the channel [01:37] willwhit_ has joined the channel [01:37] ningu: wingie: for what? [01:37] ningu: forms? [01:37] zomgbie has joined the channel [01:37] dreamr: maxogden: line 10 has nothing to do with race :D [01:37] wingie: i see some validation functions like validatesPresenceOf(), validatesLengthOf() [01:38] ningu: eh? I didn't post any of my code [01:38] wingie: is that from a validation lib or are they your own code? [01:38] dreamr: wingie: i think you are looking at mine [01:38] wingie: dreamr: ah yeah =) [01:38] dekub has joined the channel [01:38] maxogden: ningu: why are you stealing dreamr's code! [01:38] dreamr: lol [01:38] pendlepants has joined the channel [01:39] wingie: dreamr: its your own code or from a lib? [01:39] dreamr: the validations? [01:39] wingie: yeah [01:39] dreamr: from mongoose [01:39] wingie: ah ok [01:39] dreamr: if I could just get the damn belongs to relationship to work :* [01:41] dreamr: im not married to this tech. anyone got a link to a good place to pick up on nodejs model relationships? [01:41] ningu: dreamr: I use mongoose, what's going on? [01:41] enmand has joined the channel [01:41] dreamr: ningu: I cant get relationships to work [01:41] dreamr: but im new to nosql, so I may just be stupid still [01:42] dreamr: https://gist.github.com/1880284 [01:42] ningu: well, it works a bit different in mongodb [01:42] dreamr: did I define the race right? [01:42] ningu: I'd have to see your schema definitions [01:42] dreamr: gist [01:42] dreamr: ahh shema got dropped [01:42] dreamr: one sec [01:43] ningu: basically you have to decide if you want to embed docs or use dbrefs [01:43] tonymilne has joined the channel [01:43] dreamr: ningu: https://gist.github.com/1880284 [01:43] dreamr: im fine with embedding [01:44] ningu: hrm, I've never used that describe method [01:44] ningu: but I can imagine what it does [01:44] ningu: anyway, yes, race is defined correctly [01:44] ningu: if by correctly you mean you want a ref and want to be able to populate it [01:45] ningu: but you have to tell mongoose to populate it [01:45] dreamr: i guess. but I get raceId instead of race [01:45] dreamr: ahh [01:45] dreamr: ok ill look into that part [01:45] dreamr: thanks [01:45] ningu: well, that part is identical to the sql case [01:45] ningu: except you can't do it in one query, but mongoose papers over that [01:46] ningu: db.model('Unit').find({}).populate('race').run(...) [01:46] QaDeS_ has joined the channel [01:47] dreamr: ahh, its like :include for AR [01:47] pizthewiz has joined the channel [01:47] dreamr: ok, makes sense now [01:47] ningu: AR is another ORM? [01:47] ningu: oh, yeah, in rails [01:47] ningu: activerecord [01:47] dreamr: :D [01:47] \mSg has joined the channel [01:47] ningu: I looked at the code for that a long time ago when I was working on an ORM [01:49] rwaldron has joined the channel [01:49] icewhite has joined the channel [01:50] bradleymeck has joined the channel [01:51] willwhite has joined the channel [01:54] imsky has joined the channel [01:54] jyp has joined the channel [01:55] carlyle has joined the channel [01:55] ^robertj has joined the channel [01:56] criswell has joined the channel [01:56] ciccio has joined the channel [01:56] ciccio has left the channel [01:57] heavysixer has joined the channel [01:58] sven_oostenbrink has joined the channel [02:01] Emmanuel` has joined the channel [02:02] oht has joined the channel [02:02] copongcopong1 has joined the channel [02:02] richardr_ has joined the channel [02:03] dreamdust has joined the channel [02:03] krucial has joined the channel [02:03] mikeal has joined the channel [02:03] brianseeders has joined the channel [02:04] dreamdust has left the channel [02:04] CarterL has joined the channel [02:05] samuelgoodwin has joined the channel [02:05] JulioBarros_ has joined the channel [02:05] mcav has joined the channel [02:06] blubberbob has joined the channel [02:08] willwhit_ has joined the channel [02:08] parshap has joined the channel [02:09] ashishg_ has joined the channel [02:10] dshaw_ has joined the channel [02:10] orangesea has joined the channel [02:11] boccato has joined the channel [02:11] carlyle has joined the channel [02:11] phoenixz has joined the channel [02:11] phoenixz has joined the channel [02:12] mandric has joined the channel [02:13] Rob__ has joined the channel [02:14] ryanfitz has joined the channel [02:16] nerdfiles1 has joined the channel [02:16] oht has joined the channel [02:17] markq has joined the channel [02:18] bicranial has joined the channel [02:18] oht has joined the channel [02:21] pradeebv has joined the channel [02:22] whaley has joined the channel [02:25] cha0s has joined the channel [02:26] vicapow has joined the channel [02:27] samsonjs has joined the channel [02:28] ceej has joined the channel [02:28] fomatin has joined the channel [02:29] al3xnull_ has joined the channel [02:30] Daegalus: how would be the best way to process output from other apps. Something like "hg tags | node ~/regex.js" [02:31] maxogden: Daegalus: process.stdin [02:31] maxogden: Daegalus: code example https://github.com/maxogden/commonjs-html-prettyprinter/blob/master/bin/html.js [02:32] Daegalus: perfect thanks. I felt it might be stdin, but wasnt sure [02:32] rope has joined the channel [02:33] JulioBarros has joined the channel [02:35] richardr_ has left the channel [02:41] sven_oostenbrink has joined the channel [02:42] samuelgo1dwin has joined the channel [02:43] Aria has joined the channel [02:45] a_suenami has joined the channel [02:45] teslana has joined the channel [02:49] _th_n has joined the channel [02:49] sven_oostenbrink has joined the channel [02:49] harthur has joined the channel [02:49] pradeebv has joined the channel [02:51] ryanfitz has joined the channel [02:54] SamBarboza has joined the channel [02:54] copongcopong has joined the channel [02:54] SamBarboza: Hello everybody. [02:54] tuhoojabotti: good night [02:54] SamBarboza: I need help from a Node.js expert. [02:55] mikeal has joined the channel [02:55] SamBarboza: tuhoojabotti [02:55] SamBarboza: are you an expert? [02:56] maxogden: SamBarboza: state your case and the room shall judge [02:57] SamBarboza: Ok. I'm creating a service, that sends the user data through socket.io. But the app can't be used by two (or more) people at same time, its variables get confused. [02:57] Wa has joined the channel [02:57] SamBarboza: and one people receives other data and vice versa. [02:57] sven_oostenbrink has joined the channel [02:57] SamBarboza: Should I use child process ? [02:57] SubStack: SamBarboza: don't use .broadcast() [02:57] copongcopong: session id checking? [02:57] maxogden: SamBarboza: each socketio connection has unique ids and stuff on it [02:58] SamBarboza: yeah. [02:58] SubStack: you can call .send() on each connection individually [02:59] SamBarboza: Should I avoid the use of child process? [02:59] SubStack: SamBarboza: that doesn't even make sense for the scope of your problem [02:59] maxogden: child process is for spawning child processes, you have a process already [03:00] SamBarboza: hm... [03:00] SamBarboza: Ok. [03:00] SubStack: also you should gist your code [03:00] SamBarboza: My problem is that, users data get confused throught them [03:00] SubStack: then people can look at it and help you out [03:00] SamBarboza: Ok. [03:00] SamBarboza: Let me gist it. [03:00] tuhoojabotti: I said, good night. [03:00] SamBarboza: https://github.com/sambarboza/Retweets/blob/master/retweets.js [03:01] SamBarboza: Here is the code. [03:01] SamBarboza: What I need is that each user, get its own data. [03:01] SamBarboza: I think that I'm doing all wrong. [03:01] maxogden: io.sockets.emit sends it to everyone [03:02] RyanS__ has joined the channel [03:02] maxogden: you wanna only emit to the socket var in the callback here https://github.com/sambarboza/Retweets/blob/master/retweets.js#L251 [03:03] nodebiscut has joined the channel [03:03] blubberbob has joined the channel [03:03] SamBarboza: The data is sent on retweetsOfMe(); method. [03:04] SamBarboza: maxogden [03:04] SamBarboza: are you looking it? [03:05] Skaag has joined the channel [03:06] maxogden: yes that is how i gave you the suggestion above. retweetsOfMe calls parseTweets which calls getRetweets which does io.sockets.emit [03:06] SamBarboza: So, should i send io.sockets.socket(socketid).emit [03:07] SamBarboza: irhgt? [03:07] SamBarboza: rifht? [03:07] SamBarboza: dam [03:07] maxogden: ummm something like that [03:07] SamBarboza: damm [03:07] teadict: who's done backbone + socket.io? [03:07] maxogden: SamBarboza: are you related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Barbossa [03:07] SamBarboza: No no hehe [03:07] teadict: is it messy to mix them? [03:07] maxogden: SamBarboza: i dunno the exact syntax but youre on the right track with that [03:07] SamBarboza: I tried this. [03:07] SamBarboza: but it isn't enough. [03:08] SamBarboza: The loop. [03:08] SamBarboza: get confused. [03:08] orlandovftw has joined the channel [03:08] maxogden: welcome to nodejs :) [03:08] SamBarboza: i think that I need some OO here. [03:08] gkatsev has joined the channel [03:08] SamBarboza: grab all the data... [03:08] SamBarboza: and send it when completed. 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[03:30] EhevuTov has joined the channel [03:30] tmike: github.com/mikeal/request [03:30] tmike: you'll have to figure that one out [03:30] subway_tester has joined the channel [03:31] tmike: I couldn't tell you without seeing the behavior of the specific page you're talking about [03:32] subway_tester has left the channel [03:32] wiel: www.aa.com [03:32] tmike: I can't check it out right now. What does it do? [03:32] mudman has joined the channel [03:33] bulatshakirzyano has joined the channel [03:33] mudman: If a node application is expected to run continuously for days weeks on end, is there any reason not to require/load all files during startup? [03:33] wiel: i have scraped other sites with post forms but Im not sure whats different with this one [03:34] r04r has joined the channel [03:35] rwaldron has joined the channel [03:35] wiel: when the page that i need does load i see this in the address bar. matrixFlightSearchResultsAccess.do?v_mobileUAFlag=AA&v_locale=en_JM&bookingPathStateId=1329881658752-801 [03:35] tmike: So have you tried messing with those params? [03:36] salva has joined the channel [03:36] kmiyashiro has joined the channel [03:36] wiel: how i initially submit the form is by passing the parameters in the address but Im stumped as to how to pass the params to this new link [03:36] tmike: mudman I can't think of any. It might be easier to load them just before you need them, but depending on the activity of your application that probably wouldn't save you much. [03:36] bicranial has joined the channel [03:36] tmike: wiel I'm sure curl can do something [03:37] tmike: And node will let you form post requests too [03:39] r04r has joined the channel [03:40] mudman: tmike: The node.js server side will always be running, there are not form posts from node.js [03:40] tmike: You can't form POST requests? [03:40] mudman: tmike: Oh cross topic, nevermind. [03:41] tmike: lol sorry about that [03:42] mudman: tmike: The reason for wanting to load everything up front instead of delayed is so that I don't have to worry about something being available and I can just do something like var person = new My.Models.Person(); without worrying if it's been required yet or not. [03:42] tmike: yeah go for it [03:42] fasecharmer has joined the channel [03:44] r04r has joined the channel [03:46] coderarity: http://www.apple.com/itunes/25-billion-app-countdown/ < I don't know if it's wise to sleep [03:47] isaacs has joined the channel [03:48] r04r has joined the channel [03:51] maletor has joined the channel [03:52] sreeix has joined the channel [03:54] r04r has joined the channel [03:54] bingomanatee has left the channel [03:55] Sadin has joined the channel [03:58] r04r has joined the channel [03:59] blueadept has joined the channel [03:59] retornam has joined the channel [04:01] dnolen has joined the channel [04:02] willwhite has joined the channel [04:03] patcito has joined the channel [04:03] r04r has joined the channel [04:04] blueadept has left the channel [04:04] blueadept has joined the channel [04:05] copongcopong has joined the channel [04:08] r04r has joined the channel [04:08] r04r has joined the channel [04:08] tlrobinson has joined the channel [04:09] tonymilne has left the channel [04:11] tommyvyo has joined the channel [04:11] parshap has joined the channel [04:12] r04r has joined the channel [04:12] r04r has joined the channel [04:12] ryanfitz has joined the channel [04:14] deeprogram has joined the channel [04:16] r04r has joined the channel [04:16] draginx has joined the channel [04:17] CrypticSwarm has joined the channel [04:17] draginx has left the channel [04:19] westg has joined the channel [04:19] jtsnow has joined the channel [04:21] arnorhs has joined the channel [04:21] r04r has joined the channel [04:26] r04r has joined the channel [04:26] mikeal has joined the channel [04:28] TooTallNate has joined the channel [04:28] warz has joined the channel [04:28] warz has joined the channel [04:30] r04r has joined the channel [04:31] average_drifter has joined the channel [04:34] r04r has joined the channel [04:35] hexTech has joined the channel [04:37] devaholic has joined the channel [04:37] AphelionZ has joined the channel [04:39] r04r has joined the channel [04:39] mikeal has joined the channel [04:40] wiwillia has joined the channel [04:41] blueadept has joined the channel [04:41] blueadept has joined the channel [04:41] niloy has joined the channel [04:42] orlandovftw has joined the channel [04:42] joshkehn has joined the channel [04:43] SubStack: oakcity js shirts! http://teespring.com/oaklandjs [04:43] r04r has joined the channel [04:44] gr4yscale has joined the channel [04:44] c0smikdebris has joined the channel [04:45] joshkehn1 has joined the channel [04:45] joshkehn1 has left the channel [04:46] testmachine123 has joined the channel [04:46] testmachine123: i have a php question [04:46] testmachine123: php is invite only [04:47] wiwillia: register [04:47] testmachine123: how can i encapsulate array data that has to be looped through [04:47] wiwillia: register with neckserv [04:47] wiwillia: nickserv [04:47] wiwillia: that's the only req for #php [04:47] testmachine123: ok how [04:47] wiwillia: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [04:48] Wa has joined the channel [04:49] r04r has joined the channel [04:49] testmachine123: still locked out [04:49] testmachine123: do u know php wiwillia [04:50] shanebo has joined the channel [04:50] wiwillia: testmachine123 after you register login [04:51] asteros has joined the channel [04:51] testmachine123: you mean restart [04:51] jesusabdullah: No, /msg nickserv identify yourpassword [04:51] jesusabdullah: also try ##php [04:51] meso has joined the channel [04:53] testmachine123: ty [04:53] testmachine123: no one here wants to talk [04:53] SubStack: about php [04:54] r04r has joined the channel [04:54] testmachine123: yeah [04:54] OmidRaha has joined the channel [04:57] isaacs: i kinda like talking about php. [04:57] isaacs: the good old days. [04:58] isaacs: $foo = "bar"; $bar = "baz"; echo $$foo; [04:58] mikeal1 has joined the channel [04:58] isaacs: that kinda stuff [04:58] fabioboris has joined the channel [04:58] r04r has joined the channel [05:00] pizthewiz has joined the channel [05:01] testmachine123_ has joined the channel [05:03] mikeal has joined the channel [05:03] r04r has joined the channel [05:04] Aria: Heh. Back when [05:04] wiwillia: http://teespring.com/oaklandjs awesome [05:04] Aria: PHP was novel and new and was interesting in that it was so easy to parse. [05:04] isaacs: wiwillia: you should get one [05:04] wiwillia: in the process [05:04] brendan_ has joined the channel [05:04] isaacs: sweet! [05:05] SubStack: I wonder how people found out about the last one [05:05] copongcopong has joined the channel [05:05] brendan_ has left the channel [05:06] mikeal1 has joined the channel [05:08] r04r has joined the channel [05:10] wiwillia: I think people will here [05:10] wiwillia: hear* [05:10] TooTallNate has joined the channel [05:10] michaelmartinez has joined the channel [05:11] teslan has joined the channel [05:17] r04r has joined the channel [05:17] _th_n has joined the channel [05:20] JmZ_ has joined the channel [05:21] r04r has joined the channel [05:22] jasonw22 has joined the channel [05:24] jasonw22: looking for js mvc/mvp/mvvm that does ui binding, knows about pushstate, can run client & server side, and serve full page refreshes to old IE & search engines, partials to modern browsers. exists, or do i need to go make it? 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[05:37] shimondoodkin: google found solutions seem to not work [05:37] SubStack: brainproxy: what the craps is that supposed to do? [05:37] SubStack: I honestly do not get why people would ever write anything with jasmine [05:37] SubStack: it's so opaque and ridiculous [05:38] crutex has joined the channel [05:38] crutex has joined the channel [05:38] SubStack: not to say that your project isn't useful [05:38] SubStack: I just hate jasmine so much [05:39] mudman: I just saw something like var f = (0,eval)(src); What is this? Why is there the (0, eval) instead of just eval? [05:40] r04r has joined the channel [05:40] SubStack: mudman: maybe to trick jslint into not complaining about using eval()? [05:40] mudman: Interesting. [05:40] pouledodue has joined the channel [05:40] michaelmartinez: Substack what do you use for testing? [05:41] mudman: Heh, jslint doesn't even understand the comma in this: (0,eval)('alert("hi");'); [05:42] codepal: anybody know how to import a file into the current document with sublime? [05:42] codepal: alternative for a snippet for jQuery? [05:44] jaime has joined the channel [05:44] richardr has joined the channel [05:44] RyanS___ has joined the channel [05:44] RyanS___ has left the channel [05:44] r04r has joined the channel [05:44] michaelmartinez: command-p ??? [05:45] madhums has joined the channel [05:45] ryan12 has joined the channel [05:45] ryan12: hiu [05:45] ryan12: hi [05:46] MrNko has joined the channel [05:46] SubStack: michaelmartinez: I use node-tap for server code and built http://testling.com/ for browser code [05:47] rwaldron has joined the channel [05:48] michaelmartinez: nice... I will def check out testling. Still a n00b on the server. Trying to decide if I want to go full-stack. [05:48] SubStack: and testling is basically just node-tap with a few extras [05:48] SubStack: you can pretty much just take a tap test and replace the require('tap').test with require('testling') and it'll work on testling [05:48] SubStack: PLUS, tap just got awesome diffs [05:48] SubStack: http://substack.net/images/screenshots/tap_using_difflet.png [05:49] SubStack: testling is about to get these too http://substack.net/images/screenshots/testling_using_difflet.png [05:49] michaelmartinez: Sweet. I read CJNO's book on jsTestDriver and have tried to write tests with webstorm and it just pissed me off. [05:49] r04r has joined the channel [05:50] SubStack: yeah jsTestDriver is ridiculous >_< [05:50] SubStack: selenium is not designed for unit tests and repurposing it to do them is amazingly awkward [05:50] wingie: is there a way to cache readFile() so the subsequents call reading the same file will use the cache and not hit the fs? [05:51] wingie: or is it recommended i just do it manually in a wrapper function [05:51] brainproxy: SubStack: it allows for one to detect that a side-effect has occurred [05:51] jesusabdullah: wingie: just save the results in memory [05:51] brainproxy: w/o having to wire up an eventemitter or something else around that side-effect [05:51] SubStack: oh I see [05:52] SubStack: what sort of side-effects? [05:52] brainproxy: SubStack: it's not the best solution at all times, but it's just the simplest thing to do in certain circumstances [05:52] brainproxy: like that variable x has changed from value 0 to value 'another value' [05:52] brainproxy: or whatever [05:52] SubStack: hmmm [05:52] michaelmartinez: it works, when a pro like cjno writes the tests it damn sure better. Howev, when I dove in... yikes [05:53] SubStack: does it just poll x for changes? [05:53] brainproxy: SubStack: yes, which is why it's useful more for testing and not recommended for wiring together production logic [05:53] brainproxy: because it's obviously fragile [05:53] brainproxy: and subject to glitches [05:53] brainproxy: but in certain situations, like writing specs w/ mocha, it's nice [05:53] r04r has joined the channel [05:54] SubStack: sounds easy to do with just setInterval/clearInterval? [05:56] brainproxy: well yes, but then maybe you want timeout logic, maybe a timeout message, and so on [05:56] deeprogram has joined the channel [05:56] SubStack: oh that makes sense then [05:56] brainproxy: and if if you're doing it many times, across test suites ... well, then its nice to encapsulate [05:56] SubStack: I just hate jasmine is all :p [05:57] SubStack: and any test harness that pukes a bunch of globals into your namespace [05:57] brainproxy: lol, well I'm off the sauce, and mocha is my new hotness [05:57] brainproxy: but I missed jasmine's waitsFor [05:57] satyr has joined the channel [05:57] brainproxy: SubStack: what test harness to you like? [05:57] SubStack: tap [05:58] SubStack: is my current favorite [05:58] SubStack: and testling api is highly influenced by it [05:58] brainproxy: cool [05:59] r04r has joined the channel [05:59] brainproxy: well anyway, waitsFor is completely generic and doesn't do anything funny w/ globals, so it can be used w/ whatever [05:59] brainproxy: the mention of jasmine is just to give a sense of where it came from [05:59] SubStack: makes sense [06:00] SubStack: is it on npm? [06:00] philips_ has joined the channel [06:00] brainproxy: yup, `npm install waitsFor` [06:00] SubStack: aha I see that it is [06:00] SubStack: good stuff [06:00] brainproxy: thanks for your feedback btw [06:00] brainproxy: it's good to have someone force you to justify where/how dev time is spent [06:00] philips has joined the channel [06:01] SubStack: yeah totally [06:01] SubStack: also check this http://testling.com/docs/#using-npm [06:01] SubStack: if you want to use waitsFor with testling for browser tests it's super easy! [06:01] brainproxy: awesome, will def take a look [06:02] wingie: jesusabdullah: worked great :) [06:02] jesusabdullah: word [06:02] SubStack: also this if you like mocha-esque bdd-style tests http://substack.net/posts/1db3bb/roll-your-own-test-runner-for-testling [06:02] tonist has joined the channel [06:03] tylerstalder has joined the channel [06:04] r04r has joined the channel [06:04] ditesh|cassini has joined the channel [06:06] SubStack: TEST ALL THE THINGS [06:06] brainproxy: :) [06:06] brainproxy: I def like bdd style, will check out the 2nd link, thanks again [06:07] erikzaadi has joined the channel [06:08] r04r has joined the channel [06:10] michaelmartinez: What would you all suggest as a good starting point 4 a n00b node wannabe [06:13] r04r has joined the channel [06:15] jyc has joined the channel [06:16] wookiehangover: http://learncodethehardway.org/ [06:16] woodzee has left the channel [06:17] r04r has joined the channel [06:19] lohkey has joined the channel [06:19] sh1mmer has joined the channel [06:20] michaelmartinez has left the channel [06:22] r04r has joined the channel [06:22] r04r has joined the channel [06:23] _th_n has joined the channel [06:24] garrensmith has joined the channel [06:26] c0smikdebris has joined the channel [06:27] r04r has joined the channel [06:31] s33k has joined the channel [06:32] IamRyo has joined the channel [06:32] s33k: i'm trying to run a web server using node in arch linux [06:32] IamRyo: Is this thing on? [06:32] IamRyo: I have an error [06:32] hackband has joined the channel [06:32] r04r has joined the channel [06:33] s33k: but when i try to listen to port 80, i get an error saying [06:33] s33k: | |node.js:201 [06:33] s33k: | | throw e; // process.nextTick error, or 'error'\ [06:33] s33k: | | event on first tick [06:33] s33k: | | ^ [06:33] s33k: | |Error: listen EACCES [06:33] s33k: | | at errnoException (net.js:642:11) [06:33] s33k: | | at Array.0 (net.js:728:28) [06:33] s33k: | | at EventEmitter._tickCallback (node.js:192:40) [06:33] chjj: s33k: are you root? [06:34] s33k: no [06:34] s33k: ok [06:34] chjj: s33k: you need root privelages to bind to port 80 [06:34] subhaze has joined the channel [06:34] s33k: awesome.. got it [06:34] s33k: thanks [06:35] IamRyo: I'm trying to istall and use Chrome's dev toos autosave [06:35] IamRyo: tool [06:36] IamRyo: Here's the error [06:36] IamRyo: node.js:201 throw e; // process.nextTick error, or 'error' event on first tick ^ Error: No such module at Object. (/usr/lib/node_modules/npm/lib/utils/config-defs.js:5:21) at Module._compile (module.js:441:26) at Object..js (module.js:459:10) at Module.load (module.js:348:31) at Function._load (module.js:308:12) at Module.require (module.js:354:17) at require (module.js:37 [06:37] IamRyo: I installed node.js and ran $ npm install -g autosave [06:37] r04r has joined the channel [06:37] IamRyo: hello? [06:40] jesusabdullah: I'm not familiar with this tool [06:40] jesusabdullah: you may need to run that as root IamRyo [06:40] IamRyo: I tried sudo too [06:40] jesusabdullah: you *are* globally installing it after all! [06:40] IamRyo: No dice [06:40] IamRyo: maybe try no global? [06:40] jesusabdullah: naw [06:41] jesusabdullah: that'd install it locally [06:41] IamRyo: YEah, it didn't work anyways [06:41] isaacs: IamRyo: npm -v <-- what's that print out [06:41] IamRyo: I get an error [06:41] jesusabdullah: damn son [06:41] jesusabdullah: when npm -v throws it's time to get a new npm [06:41] IamRyo: right? [06:42] IamRyo: expand on that? [06:42] isaacs: IamRyo: also, why is npm in /usr/lib/node_modules rather than /usr/local/lib/node_modules? [06:42] isaacs: IamRyo: how did you install node and npm initially? [06:42] garrensmith has joined the channel [06:42] r04r has joined the channel [06:42] r04r has joined the channel [06:42] IamRyo: I just ran the node.js installer [06:43] isaacs: IamRyo: which node.js installer? [06:43] isaacs: the pkg installer for a mac? [06:43] IamRyo: yeah [06:43] isaacs: ok [06:43] isaacs: run this: `which node` [06:43] isaacs: what's that show you? [06:43] IamRyo: usr/local/bin/node [06:43] isaacs: ok [06:44] isaacs: so... why is npm in /usr/bin/npm [06:44] isaacs: rather than /usr/local/bin [06:44] isaacs: did you install some other version once upon a time? [06:44] IamRyo: got me... [06:44] isaacs: IamRyo: which npm [06:44] isaacs: run that^ [06:44] IamRyo: usr/bin/npm [06:45] isaacs: sudo mv /usr/bin/npm{,-BROKEN} ; hash -r ; npm -v [06:45] IamRyo: I think I'm seeing the problem here... [06:45] isaacs: :D [06:45] isaacs: if you used the mac pkg installer, you have some working version of npm in /usr/local/bin/npm, I'm guessing. [06:45] isaacs: but /usr/bin/npm is first in your path. [06:45] SamuraiJack has joined the channel [06:45] isaacs: not sure how *that* one got there. [06:46] isaacs: anyone's guess. [06:46] IamRyo: boom! [06:46] churp has joined the channel [06:46] IamRyo: Yeah, I may have been working on something else at some point... Who knows [06:47] IamRyo: But thanks for the help [06:47] r04r has joined the channel [06:47] r04r has joined the channel [06:51] r04r has joined the channel [06:51] fangel has joined the channel [06:52] thurmda has joined the channel [06:54] nowjs8 has joined the channel [06:54] lohkey has joined the channel [06:54] pid1 has joined the channel [06:54] nowjs8: hello guys, i want to ask you guys, i am trying to develop a chat (im server). node.js is suitable for me [06:54] khrome has joined the channel [06:55] nowjs8: but i will have more and more users, so i need a way to scale the system. [06:55] nowjs8: i have looked the demo chat written with node.js however i need a distribted system [06:55] nowjs8: any recommendations* [06:56] r04r has joined the channel [06:59] Emmanuel`: nowjs8: what do you mean with distributed system for chat ? [06:59] Emmanuel`: you mean several, synchronised, chat server [06:59] blueadept: what happens if you dont declare a variable specically through the var init in node.js? does the compiler just tack it on? [07:00] mansoor has joined the channel [07:00] nowjs8: Emmanuel`: yes i mean it [07:01] nowjs8: Emmanuel`: meaning, i will never have 1000-2000 users. so i need to have more than 1 server and a scalable system [07:01] jiboumans_ has joined the channel [07:01] r04r has joined the channel [07:01] r04r has joined the channel [07:02] munichlinux has joined the channel [07:06] r04r has joined the channel [07:06] r04r has joined the channel [07:07] asteros has joined the channel [07:09] verdoc has joined the channel [07:09] \mSg has joined the channel [07:10] nowjs8: Emmanuel`: : any comments? [07:10] r04r has joined the channel [07:11] mappum has joined the channel [07:15] deeprogram_ has joined the channel [07:15] r04r has joined the channel [07:18] QaDeS has joined the channel [07:19] nowjs8: i want to ask you guys, i am developing a chat server. which people will be able to talk with each other. should i use a xmpp server or node.js ? [07:19] Emmanuel`: nowjs8: you will never have 1000 users ? [07:19] Emmanuel`: then why would you need scalability [07:19] Emmanuel`: what kind of protocol do you want to use ? [07:20] Emmanuel`: you should definitely use xmpp, I don't see any good reason to redevelop these kind of thing with node [07:20] Emmanuel`: (but I might be wrong) [07:20] tdegrunt has joined the channel [07:20] r04r has joined the channel [07:20] Emmanuel`: as far as I know, all the "chat" stuff in node are just for demo/example [07:20] braoru has joined the channel [07:20] Emmanuel`: if you really have strong need, even an IRC server (that is : the thing you are connected at right now) would be good [07:22] nowjs8: Emmanuel`: : thanks but i know what is internet relay chat :) [07:22] nowjs8: Emmanuel`: : i am trying to accomplish "whatzapp" [07:22] nowjs8: you know it ? [07:22] Emmanuel`: I kind of assumed you did :) [07:22] Emmanuel`: I know whatsapp [07:23] nowjs8: so, do you think node.js is suitable for a such solution ? [07:23] Emmanuel`: probably, but that sounds a bit overkill [07:23] nowjs8: i see that as node.js is asnyc, it can handle many concurrent connections at the same time [07:23] Emmanuel`: as any xmpp server would do [07:24] dlg: its more webscale [07:24] nowjs8: Emmanuel`: so i should setup a xmpp server and write soem code in html5 for clients and let them chat each other running xmpp server ? 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I'd like have the basic operations with simple api. Copy, move etc. [07:54] `3rdEden has joined the channel [07:54] daglees has joined the channel [07:57] pleaz has joined the channel [07:57] dobber has joined the channel [07:58] ccare has joined the channel [07:58] tonist has joined the channel [07:58] r04r has joined the channel [08:02] zomg: Epeli: fs [08:02] aliem has joined the channel [08:02] fangel has joined the channel [08:03] maletor has joined the channel [08:03] r04r has joined the channel [08:05] isaacs: Epeli: you can do recursive copy pretty easily with fstream [08:05] isaacs: Epeli: most of the other things you'd want are implemented as one-offs in npm. [08:05] boltR has joined the channel [08:05] stagas has joined the channel [08:05] isaacs: Epeli: mkdirp, rimraf, etc. [08:05] zomg: mkderp [08:05] zomg: =) [08:06] Epeli: isaacs: Ah, thanks. I'll take a look at it [08:07] pleaz has left the channel [08:07] ph^_ has joined the channel [08:08] mraleph has joined the channel [08:08] pleaz_ has joined the channel [08:08] r04r has joined the channel [08:09] dannyamey has joined the channel [08:09] pleaz_ has left the channel [08:10] serby_ has joined the channel [08:10] stagas has joined the channel [08:10] stonebranch has joined the channel [08:10] nphase has joined the channel [08:12] tonist has joined the channel [08:13] infynyxx has joined the channel [08:13] erikzaadi has joined the channel [08:14] [AD]Turbo has joined the channel [08:14] [AD]Turbo: hi there [08:14] Chel has joined the channel [08:15] tdegrunt has joined the channel [08:15] stonebranch has joined the channel [08:16] margle has joined the channel [08:16] r04r has joined the channel [08:17] ph^ has joined the channel [08:20] hipsterslapfight has joined the channel [08:21] r04r has joined the channel [08:21] r04r has joined the channel [08:21] benjixx has joined the channel [08:22] ppcano has joined the channel [08:23] thalll has joined the channel [08:23] slaskis has joined the channel [08:25] huggies has joined the channel [08:26] Daegalus has joined the channel [08:26] r04r has joined the channel [08:27] Daegalus has joined the channel [08:28] jomoho has joined the channel [08:29] ablomen has joined the channel [08:29] Druid_ has joined the channel [08:30] pleaz_ has joined the channel [08:31] r04r has joined the channel [08:32] Yester_x2 has joined the channel [08:32] felixhummel has joined the channel [08:32] dobber has joined the channel [08:35] r04r has joined the channel [08:35] pradeebv_ has joined the channel [08:35] ph^ has joined the channel [08:36] hkjels has joined the channel [08:37] richardr_ has joined the channel [08:37] jkridner_ has joined the channel [08:37] Skola has joined the channel [08:38] pleaz_ has joined the channel [08:39] tomoj has joined the channel [08:39] johnhamelink has joined the channel [08:40] r04r has joined the channel [08:41] tornad has joined the channel [08:41] robhawkes has joined the channel [08:42] pleaz007 has joined the channel [08:42] pleaz007 has left the channel [08:42] adambeynon has joined the channel [08:42] ppcano has left the channel [08:43] danielss89 has joined the channel [08:43] sugyan has joined the channel [08:44] Chel: question: where can i read about ISODate javascript object ? [08:44] r04r has joined the channel [08:44] rendar has joined the channel [08:45] lperrin has joined the channel [08:45] joshgillies has joined the channel [08:47] richardr has joined the channel [08:48] tomoj: suppose you're writing a node.js process which will be entirely devoted to streaming data from some source out over stdio - another process will start you and ask for messages by writing 'next\n' into your stdin, then reading messages until you send 'sync', at which point it loops [08:48] tomoj: if you have no messages available, you are expected to sleep (..setTimeout?) for 1ms to avoid pegging the cpu, or you can just peg the cpu if you don't care [08:49] r04r has joined the channel [08:50] booyaa: arse don't hink i can make it to lnug [08:50] booyaa: sorely disappointed won't hear dscape's talk [08:50] booyaa: Chel: try using Date.parse? [08:51] booyaa: is isodate long date? yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss ? [08:51] tomoj: you're expected to send a sync without blocking for too long after 'next', because the parent process might also notify you with a status message instead of sending 'next', and while it is waiting for 'sync' it will not send these [08:51] tomoj: what damage will this cause to an event-brained node.js programmer working under this framework? [08:51] kwmiebach has joined the channel [08:52] fluk3 has joined the channel [08:53] Chel: booyaa: yes, it's a long date. [08:53] r04r has joined the channel [08:53] r04r has joined the channel [08:54] Chel: Object Tue Feb 21 2012 04:00:00 GMT+0400 (MSK) has no method 'parse' [08:55] hackband has joined the channel [08:56] booyaa: Chel: i think the Date object doesn't handle timezones [08:56] booyaa: well according to MDN it does [08:56] booyaa: looks like you'll need to find a library that does [08:56] booyaa: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Date/parse#Example:_Using_parse [08:57] booyaa: mmm [08:57] booyaa: chel just tired parsing that date seems to work [08:58] booyaa: .. var bob = new Date(Date.parse('Tue Feb 21 2012 04:00:00 GMT+0400 (MSK)')); bob [08:58] catb0t: { Mon Feb 20 2012 19:00:00 GMT-0500 (EST) } [08:58] r04r has joined the channel [08:58] booyaa: maybe v8 fixed it? [08:59] criswell has joined the channel [08:59] Chel: booyaa: did you tried in node console ? [08:59] booyaa: yes [08:59] booyaa: mind you i'm on an old node [08:59] booyaa: that's cause i'm at work [09:00] booyaa: not sure why it would stop working in a more recent version too [09:00] aaronmcadam has joined the channel [09:00] booyaa: can you gist what you're typing in? [09:00] Chel: yes. it wouldn't [09:00] booyaa: catb0t is a node vm [09:00] plutoniix has joined the channel [09:00] catb0t: node I'd like to consume information being written to a local file descriptor, but is he is [09:00] Chel: ok. understand catb0t, will learn how to use him in future [09:00] catb0t: understand your code and o start future [09:01] booyaa: Chel: he's a bit mad [09:01] Chel: booyaa: please wait, i will pastebin a code [09:01] booyaa: gist it man [09:01] booyaa: pastebin is verboten at work [09:01] Chel: booyaa: =) like every bot [09:01] panosru: hello, iOS simulator is not working for me I always get an error The simulated application quit. Click Relaunch to try again. I have posted the console output here: https://gist.github.com/08f9fce113ca76e6f2e5 [09:01] booyaa: ACTION shakes his fist at work [09:01] panosru: lol [09:01] panosru: sorry [09:01] panosru: wrong channel! [09:01] booyaa: panosru: lolz indeed [09:02] tekky has joined the channel [09:02] Chel: https://gist.github.com/a5bd25a5eb228c3425d7 [09:02] Chel: just a small code [09:02] niloy has joined the channel [09:02] icebox has joined the channel [09:03] Chel: booyaa: [09:03] dve has joined the channel [09:03] r04r has joined the channel [09:03] booyaa: so console.log(date) spits out the isodate we just parsed in catb0t? [09:03] catb0t: consolelogdate isodate [09:04] hipsterslapfight has joined the channel [09:04] Chel: console.log(date.parse()) also throws en exception [09:04] Chel: ^en^an [09:05] Blkt has joined the channel [09:05] booyaa: whjere do you get the iso date? [09:05] ParadoxQuine has joined the channel [09:05] booyaa: i think it needs to be placed in date.parse(variableWithIsODate) [09:06] Chel: let me check. i have isodate in mongo [09:07] aristidesfl has joined the channel [09:07] booyaa: line 9 just maps template variables populated from lines 3-6) [09:07] Chel: https://gist.github.com/a9125f6d303f66d44fee [09:07] Chel: this code also throws an exception [09:07] Chel: booyaa: about map, yes. [09:08] satyr has joined the channel [09:08] booyaa: right... that is odd... [09:08] booyaa: one sec [09:08] Chel: just maps variables [09:08] r04r has joined the channel [09:08] r04r has joined the channel [09:08] ph^ has joined the channel [09:08] booyaa: docs[0].date is just a string right? you've typeof'd it to be certain it's not a date object? [09:08] skylamer` has joined the channel [09:08] booyaa: not that i think it matters [09:09] Chel: docs[0].date is ISODate from moongodb, i think it stores it in a bson isodate millisecundes [09:10] booyaa: chel but it looks like this right? Tue Feb 21 2012 04:00:00 GMT+0400 (MSK) [09:10] booyaa: it's not millseconds [09:10] Chel: yes typeof isodate is Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:00:00 GMT [09:11] booyaa: ah [09:11] booyaa: heh yes okay [09:12] herbySk has joined the channel [09:12] dbrain has joined the channel [09:12] Chel: wait =) my bad [09:12] Chel: typeof isodate is Object [09:12] booyaa: yeah you spotted the problem too? [09:12] sgimeno has joined the channel [09:12] booyaa: oh [09:13] booyaa: use JSON.stringify to have a peek [09:13] booyaa: btw [09:13] booyaa: i know what your problem is with your code [09:13] booyaa: i will add a fix [09:13] r04r has joined the channel [09:14] lzskiss has joined the channel [09:14] booyaa: parse is a static method [09:14] booyaa: you need to call it using the Date object not an instance [09:14] booyaa: https://gist.github.com/d4fda1e913fdfa4b581e [09:14] booyaa: brb [09:15] Chel: ahhh [09:16] Chel: thaks [09:16] Chel: +n [09:16] sandfox has joined the channel [09:17] ryantm has joined the channel [09:18] r04r has joined the channel [09:18] r04r has joined the channel [09:19] ningu has joined the channel [09:19] riven has joined the channel [09:19] riven has joined the channel [09:20] tdegrunt has joined the channel [09:20] booyaa: np [09:21] eddyb has joined the channel [09:23] NetRoY has joined the channel [09:23] r04r has joined the channel [09:24] riven` has joined the channel [09:27] cosmincx has joined the channel [09:28] r04r has joined the channel [09:28] thalll has joined the channel [09:29] pokoli has joined the channel [09:29] thalll has joined the channel [09:32] r04r has joined the channel [09:32] r04r has joined the channel [09:33] maritz has joined the channel [09:33] TomY has joined the channel [09:36] copongcopong has joined the channel [09:36] looopy has joined the channel [09:37] ajackbot has joined the channel [09:37] r04r has joined the channel [09:37] Gruni|NA has joined the channel [09:37] misza222 has joined the channel [09:39] riven has joined the channel [09:39] riven has joined the channel [09:40] gut4 has joined the channel [09:40] markwubben has joined the channel [09:41] dannyamey has joined the channel [09:42] r04r has joined the channel [09:42] ryantm1 has joined the channel [09:45] i42n has joined the channel [09:45] hellp has joined the channel [09:47] r04r has joined the channel [09:47] pradeebv has joined the channel [09:49] eldios has joined the channel [09:51] r04r has joined the channel [09:54] AvianFlu has joined the channel [09:56] r04r has joined the channel [09:56] pickels has joined the channel [09:57] rurufufuss has joined the channel [09:58] xamius has joined the channel [10:00] riven has joined the channel [10:00] riven has joined the channel [10:00] r04r has joined the channel [10:00] dbrain has joined the channel [10:01] davidvip has joined the channel [10:02] davidvip: hi there, i already set PYTHON env variable to python2 but still hit the SyntaxError as specified at https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installation [10:02] jimmysparkle has joined the channel [10:03] davidvip: i also set the PYTHONHOME to /usr [10:03] plutoniiix has joined the channel [10:04] odinswand has joined the channel [10:04] [[zzz]] has joined the channel [10:04] rurufufuss: is there a good document to read about multi-node node.js? [10:04] niloy has joined the channel [10:04] rurufufuss: that can answer questions like "how do people usually handle persistent objects in two node.js nodes?" [10:04] davidvip: if i change the PYTHONHOME=/usr/lib then hit a LookupError [10:05] r04r has joined the channel [10:05] aslant has joined the channel [10:05] r04r has joined the channel [10:05] davidvip: Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding [10:05] davidvip: LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding [10:05] davidvip: ./configure: line 19: 30788 Aborted "${WORKINGDIR}/tools/waf-light" --jobs=1 configure $* [10:05] davidvip: any ideas? [10:08] hz has joined the channel [10:08] tdegrunt has joined the channel [10:09] iangreenleaf has joined the channel [10:09] cjm has joined the channel [10:09] c0smikdebris has joined the channel [10:10] r04r has joined the channel [10:11] dgathright has joined the channel [10:12] riven` has joined the channel [10:12] tomasztomczyk has joined the channel [10:13] davidvip has left the channel [10:14] aaron_ has joined the channel [10:14] r04r has joined the channel [10:14] r04r has joined the channel [10:15] HardFu has joined the channel [10:16] dgathright has joined the channel [10:16] jimmysparkle_ has joined the channel [10:18] oal: Probably a common question around here, but how do you avoid boomerang/banana code and callback hell? Is the "async" module what you'd recommend? [10:19] booyaa: cal, there are a lot of async modules. check out toolbox.no.de or search.npmjs.org to find one you like the sound of [10:19] booyaa: i think dailyjs.com did a review of the most widely used ones [10:19] r04r has joined the channel [10:19] r04r has joined the channel [10:19] rendar has joined the channel [10:20] booyaa: i've used caolan's async fairly easy to use [10:20] oal: Thanks, booyaa. :) [10:20] Glenjamin: oal: that's my preferred choice [10:20] booyaa: rurufufuss: use a common db or keystore? [10:20] chjj has joined the channel [10:21] cha0s has joined the channel [10:21] igl has joined the channel [10:22] josh-k has joined the channel [10:23] rurufufuss: booyaa: keystore [10:23] rurufufuss: well, since most web apps are stateless, everything is usually done by "pull from db, modify, push back to db", sometimes with caching etc [10:23] rurufufuss: but what about if you have a highly dynamic object (e.g a chatroom) [10:24] booyaa: rurufufuss: use messagequeue technology since it's closer to that type of application? [10:24] robi42 has joined the channel [10:25] rurufufuss: booyaa: like redis pubsub? [10:25] booyaa: rabbitmq [10:25] booyaa: i think pusher may even be in this arena [10:25] abraxas: any c++ addon developers on who could quickly verify something for me? [10:26] abraxas: I see bugs in other people's code (or I'm really confused about what I read) [10:26] rurufufuss: cool, thanks, will tkae a look [10:26] booyaa: rurufufuss: dunno about pubsub, well not used it, but i suspect subscribing to new chat events could work [10:26] booyaa: rurufufuss: how does the multi nodedness work? are you trying to load balance a chat server? [10:27] rurufufuss: booyaa: suppose I made a chat app in node.js [10:27] dubenstein has joined the channel [10:27] rurufufuss: and everything's going fine for one node (every chatroom object) is held in one server [10:27] rurufufuss: how does one scale up from one server to two? [10:28] booyaa: right i get you [10:28] booyaa: rurufufuss: i think you want to think about clustering technology too in addtiojn to shaerd storage/or message queues [10:28] huggies has joined the channel [10:29] booyaa: thinsg like hookio or i think dnode [10:29] r04r has joined the channel [10:29] rurufufuss: right, dnode would be used for clients connecting to server A, but where the chatroom is located in server B huh [10:29] rurufufuss: .. this sounds like reimplementing IRC haha [10:29] catb0t: Exception: SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier [10:29] SubStack: dnode would more be for letting the servers talk to each other [10:30] SubStack: redis might be a better fit for sharing state like that [10:30] kwmiebach_ has joined the channel [10:30] rurufufuss: I suppose redis is fast enough for chatroom purposes huh [10:30] booyaa: redis is plenty fast enough for most apps [10:30] SubStack: if you want to manage a federated architecture spanning lots of processes check out http://github.com/substack/seaport [10:31] dubenstein has joined the channel [10:31] booyaa: don't voxer use it or is it riak? [10:31] SubStack: they use both [10:31] DrPheltRight has joined the channel [10:31] rurufufuss: SubStack: I was expecting a cartoonish doodle which may or may not involve a ninja turtle [10:32] rurufufuss: instead there seems to be a postmodernish structure as the logo [10:32] riven has joined the channel [10:32] riven has joined the channel [10:32] SubStack: rurufufuss: it's one of these http://www.oaklandmofo.com/images/port-of-oakland-cranes.jpg [10:32] ningu: someone really needs to write redis philbin to go along with kathy lee giffer [10:33] SubStack: I got tired of drawing it so I left it in that condition [10:33] SubStack: I was going to draw a ship [10:33] rurufufuss: ah, makes sense with "seaport" [10:33] ningu: you should also draw the crowds of occupy people closing the port [10:33] rurufufuss: and the pool's closed guy [10:34] r04r has joined the channel [10:34] dubenstein has joined the channel [10:35] papertigers has joined the channel [10:36] krilla has joined the channel [10:37] RLa has joined the channel [10:37] jldbasa has joined the channel [10:37] krilla: hi [10:38] a_meteorite has joined the channel [10:38] shanebo has joined the channel [10:39] r04r has joined the channel [10:39] dubenstein has joined the channel [10:39] tomaszto_ has joined the channel [10:40] niloy has joined the channel [10:41] garrensmith has joined the channel [10:42] herbySk has joined the channel [10:42] Morkel has joined the channel [10:44] robi42 has joined the channel [10:44] fermion has joined the channel [10:44] r04r has joined the channel [10:44] r04r has joined the channel [10:44] michaelhartau has joined the channel [10:44] dubenste1n has joined the channel [10:44] einaros has joined the channel [10:45] dubenstein has joined the channel [10:47] pradeebv_ has joined the channel [10:48] AdTaylor_ has joined the channel [10:48] ningu: json is really what xml wanted to be and never was... or I should say, what people thought xml should be instead of a markup language ;) [10:49] r04r has joined the channel [10:49] rodgerdb has joined the channel [10:49] SubStack: calling a data exchange format a markup language is the first mistake [10:49] ningu: I'm glad that people don't seem to be talking about json in hushed tones anymore as if they were embarrassed to admit they were using it. in 2005 or so, as I recall, it was seen as a hack. [10:49] ningu: SubStack: no, it went the other way around historically -- it's call x*ML* after all [10:50] SubStack: really? the first time I saw it I thought "yes, fucking finally" [10:50] ningu: and then people said hey, it can be used for data exchange as well [10:50] ajackbot has joined the channel [10:50] dubenste1n has joined the channel [10:51] jimmy- has joined the channel [10:51] ningu: me too. but apparently there were/are corporate types convinced that xml was the right thing (people who didn't really understand the tech, I'm sure) [10:51] benvie: verbosity is an enemy I wish to kill [10:51] torvalamo: i remember when xhtml was all the hype. that wasn't so long ago. i think it was last week. [10:51] benvie: dhtml is where it's at [10:51] ningu: yes, but html actually is a markup language [10:51] margle has joined the channel [10:51] torvalamo: oh hell yeah, dhtml [10:51] benvie: remember that shit? [10:51] torvalamo: dude i got a menu that follows the page as you scroll! [10:51] benvie: that was javascript once upon a time...dhtml [10:52] torvalamo: i also hae a bunny for a cursor [10:52] maritz: torvalamo: me too, but it's a sticky note i put on my bosses monitor. works great. [10:52] ningu: I was just reading about dart [10:52] rjack has joined the channel [10:52] ningu: wonder if it will ever come to pass [10:52] torvalamo: of course it will [10:53] torvalamo: it's google, they'll make it. the question is if people will use it [10:53] benvie: it's not going to displace javascript in the foreseeable future [10:53] ningu: that's what I meant [10:53] ningu: I know they'll make it [10:53] r04r has joined the channel [10:53] ningu: but imo, js, though flawed, is basically a good language that can be made to do what you want with a bit of effort perhaps for browser cross-compat [10:53] torvalamo: it's technically not a replacement for js, is it? it's more of a replacement for a webpage. at least that's what i got out of it. [10:53] benvie: there's too much intertia behind what exists. You're more likely to see changes pop up as part of shifts to completely different mediums [10:54] ningu: I don't think js is that flawed, it's just a bit messy with some odd semantics for historical reasons [10:54] benvie: the story for the web medium has been written [10:54] benvie: the html/css/js/document whatever [10:54] benvie: that's not going to change [10:54] torvalamo: sure it is [10:54] ningu: well, I don't mean whether browsers will drop support for js, which presumably they won't [10:54] ningu: but whether new sites will shift [10:54] benvie: well no, they won't [10:55] jimmysparkle has left the channel [10:55] torvalamo: i can totally foresee html disappearing into oblivion [10:55] ningu: html5 support is real enough and will be a big change [10:55] benvie: it would need to be something that was largely isolated from what exists [10:55] OmidRaha has joined the channel [10:55] ningu: there is already a fair amount of html5 support in webkit, right? [10:55] benvie: sites won't just switch to something [10:56] torvalamo: from an objective point of view html is a clunky and far too static way to create apps... [10:56] benvie: it needs to have 95% support amongst their customers first [10:56] benvie: and how will that happen [10:56] torvalamo: i'm sure some genius will come up with a new way to define apps [10:56] richardr has joined the channel [10:56] ningu: well, apps are not pure html, I doubt they ever could be [10:56] torvalamo: like a DOM-thingy without the HTML fuzz [10:57] ningu: in fact, those xml "programming languages" always made me wonder what those people were smoking :) [10:57] benvie: yeah I'm just saying you're more likely to see the whole medium displaced than to see say javascript replaced by dart or anything in what we call the web now [10:57] torvalamo: xslt anyone? [10:57] benvie: or html or any of the pillars [10:57] torvalamo: with sugar? [10:57] ningu: someone made something called X++ [10:57] rendar: i think the first thing to do, is change http [10:58] benvie: virtual reality has to come some day right [10:58] larsschenk has joined the channel [10:58] ningu: http is successful because it's so simple, though [10:58] benvie: when http ceases being a sufficient pipe for piping in our virtual reality headsets [10:58] looopy has joined the channel [10:58] r04r has joined the channel [10:58] larsschenk has left the channel [10:58] torvalamo: actually http itself isn't too bad, you just need to upgrade it a bit to allow for two-way communication [10:58] benvie: and we need laser-http-ULTRA [10:58] rendar: then, also urls has an old syntax, often friends of mine paste to me urls of about 800 charachters, where 780 are sha hashes or something, wouldn't it cool pass just a name? [10:59] benvie: usually you see new technologies simply adapting and monkeypatching existing stuff. It takes a real fundamental technological shift to outright build something new [10:59] torvalamo: you mean like a domain name? [10:59] rendar: i think the things should be re-thinked from the ground up for the future.. [10:59] torvalamo: i remember those days [11:00] ts___: is there a way to do something like this in node : var module = require('some source code in a string') ? [11:00] rendar: torvalamo: yes, instead of http://imgur.com/49d94if i pass you just rendar/fun_pic [11:00] ningu: the old days when a man was lord of his domain (name)? [11:00] torvalamo: rendar, so essentially a context-based address system? [11:00] ningu: ts___: eval? [11:00] torvalamo: what a shit idea if i ever heard one [11:00] torvalamo: no offense [11:01] blup has joined the channel [11:01] rendar: torvalamo: a context-based? nope.. [11:01] torvalamo: that's like telling the post office to deliver a postcard to your neighbour... and you just put "neighbour" on it [11:02] ningu: rendar: ok, but there aren't a small number of users, won't the names get just as ugly? [11:02] ts___: ningu: so if i load a module js file and pass it to eval is the same as require(moduleFilename) ? [11:02] rendar: names+namespaces and hierarchy, like actual DNS, but more modern [11:02] ningu: ts___: eval just takes a string and evaluates the code in it, it can come from wherever [11:02] torvalamo: namespaces = context based [11:02] ningu: it isn't a node feature [11:02] rendar: look at the companies which reigsters bookmar.ks chatwith.me and so on [11:03] r04r has joined the channel [11:03] r04r has joined the channel [11:03] ts___: alright [11:03] rendar: that .me or .ks TLDs are not used for countries anymore, but just as name extension.. :) [11:03] dekub has left the channel [11:03] torvalamo: I KNOW [11:03] d0k has joined the channel [11:04] ningu: ts___: eval(string), you can do that in js generally [11:04] ts___: yep [11:04] ningu: although it's dangerous to do for user-passed code obviously [11:04] torvalamo: i've decided to stop telling people that [11:05] ningu: haha [11:05] torvalamo: i wanna see what the worst thing that can happen is [11:05] rendar: torvalamo: don't you think its quite unuseful using TLDs in that way? maybe just names like 'chatwithme' or 'bookmarks' would be cool, i was saying just that.. [11:05] torvalamo: rendar, i know what you mean, but who's to say who gets 'bookmarks' when there are dozens of bookmarks.something sites [11:06] plutoniix has joined the channel [11:07] rendar: torvalamo: it happens also now, you can have only 1 bookmar.ks domain name, you first register it, you have it, it will happen in this way, if you register 'bookmarks' you have it, other will register some other name.. [11:07] torvalamo: yeah but then essentially it would be a domain name system with no extensions and less available domains [11:07] torvalamo: how does that help? [11:08] rendar: torvalamo: wrong, because in that case there will be namespaces which helps to have much more available domains, even more than now can exist with these limited TLDs [11:08] r04r has joined the channel [11:09] torvalamo: so how would these namespaces work then [11:11] Skyjoker has joined the channel [11:11] rjack has joined the channel [11:12] c0smikdebris has joined the channel [11:13] rendar: torvalamo: well, this is a good question, and not of easy solution, you can have a global namespace, like happens now, then stuff-related namespaces, user-defined namspaces..and so on, it will help also with searching something related by argument as happens in android/iOS market, when you search an application, instead of having a context-less search engine like google which have to process [11:13] rendar: millions of pages.. [11:13] dgathright has joined the channel [11:13] r04r has joined the channel [11:18] Cromulent has joined the channel [11:19] Wizek has joined the channel [11:20] OmidRaha has joined the channel [11:21] Chel: is it true, that there is no any method to get sprintf("%.2F",strin) ? do i need to use regexp or three is a better way ? [11:21] Chel: in V8 of course [11:21] dlg: you want to turn a string into number? [11:21] Chel: i want to round a number 3.33333 to 3.33 [11:21] Doikor: toFixed [11:21] dlg: floor? [11:22] Doikor: http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_tofixed.asp [11:22] Chel: thanks [11:24] simenbrekken has joined the channel [11:25] wingie: anyone knows where cloudhead has gone? [11:25] wingie: he doesn't seem to care much about this libs [11:27] wingie: im very wrong .. he's still active [11:32] kolektiv has joined the channel [11:32] janjongboom has joined the channel [11:33] kolektiv: i wonder if anyone knows... [11:33] kolektiv: i'm using connect static via express [11:33] kolektiv: if i set the max age, what ends up in the browser is always a factor of 3 less than what i have in the code! [11:34] kolektiv: so maxAge: 86400000 (one day) ends up in the browser as 86400 (1/1000 of a day) [11:34] kolektiv: anyone seen this before?! [11:35] Skaag has joined the channel [11:35] janjongboom: weird [11:36] kolektiv: yes - that's what i thought! [11:36] janjongboom: i think connect wants seconds [11:36] janjongboom: instead of ticks [11:36] janjongboom: 86400 / 24 / 60 / 60 = 1 [11:36] devaholic has joined the channel [11:37] dmwuw has joined the channel [11:37] kolektiv: well, 24*60*60*60 = 86400000 (ms in one day) [11:37] aslanted has joined the channel [11:37] kolektiv: that ends up as 86400 in the browser, which wants ms [11:38] __doc__ has joined the channel [11:38] kolektiv: sorry, that first bit should have had *1000 on it! [11:38] kolektiv: so it's as if it actually wants 10^-6 seconds... [11:38] smgt has joined the channel [11:38] kolektiv: which seems over-precise :) [11:38] mc_greeny has joined the channel [11:38] rio{ has joined the channel [11:39] johnhamelink: I'm trying to use the global object in order to give dependencies to modules I load within my app.js file… but they don't seem to work - at all. How can I debug this? [11:40] ts___: oh [11:40] ts___: found Module.wrap(sourceCode) [11:41] janjongboom: oh i think the browser expects it in seconds [11:41] janjongboom: and connect in ms [11:41] janjongboom: so they're actually the same? [11:41] janjongboom: it just seems off if you check HTTP headers [11:42] airandfingers has joined the channel [11:42] janjongboom: have you verified that the browser expires the content too soon or is this just what you thought when inspecting he headers? [11:43] RLa: also, not all browsers treat max-age same [11:44] johnhamelink: Actually, the question I really want to ask is: how can I Pass require()s (not always in the node_modules folder for logistics reasons) into the scope of modules I load later? [11:45] johnhamelink: I have a custom libs I want to require() and be able to use within modules that I dynamically load from my "vendor" directory. [11:45] rodgerdb has left the channel [11:45] RLa: how global object does not work? [11:46] RLa: properties do not appear in the other module? [11:46] johnhamelink: Indeed [11:46] satyr has joined the channel [11:46] johnhamelink: I'm using node 0.6.8 [11:46] johnhamelink: When doing global.express = require('express'), I get: ypeError: Object #