[00:00] JmZ: the thing you're giving the callback to is calling it
[00:00] WarheadsSE: actually, he is
[00:00] JmZ: in my example i meant
[00:00] WarheadsSE: im not grasping the callback placement in your example though
[00:01] WarheadsSE: So you're looking for the anything, or for i, at that time, to be constant
[00:01] WarheadsSE: aka 1,2,3 not, i+10 or something
[00:01] JmZ: im looking for the i at the time the 'something' was called
[00:02] WarheadsSE: at the time the callback, or the something
[00:02] JmZ: which is why there's a problem because the callback may not run when 'something' is called
[00:02] JmZ: it may run a minute later, instantly, etc
[00:02] WarheadsSE: so you arent looking to pass i, your're looking to pass the /value/ of i
[00:02] JmZ: indeed, at the time the call associated with the given callback was made
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[00:03] chapel: JmZ: why not pass i into the callback?
[00:03] chapel: you are sending i to something, well just send that i you have to the callback
[00:03] thepatr1ck: JmZ: do you control the something() function?
[00:03] JmZ: chapel can you give an example?
[00:03] chapel: well you would need to control something
[00:03] JmZ: am i just losing my mind or what because you can't pass anything to the callback
[00:04] JmZ: the internals run it, not you
[00:04] chapel: you can pass anything to the callback you want
[00:04] JmZ: how?
[00:04] JmZ: show me
[00:04] chapel: function something(i, cb) { cb(err, i) }
[00:04] chapel: when you invoke the callback, you send any arguments you want to it
[00:04] JmZ: I don't control something
[00:05] JmZ: so no, I cannot
[00:05] chapel: well you could wrap it
[00:05] JmZ: indeed i probably could
[00:05] JmZ: but nevermind, i'd rather not, I already changed the logic in my code while we were talking
[00:06] chapel: sometimes that is the best answer (to rethink it)
[00:06] chapel: could also do this
[00:06] chapel: function callback(i) { return function(err) { // do something with i }
[00:06] chapel: function callback(i) { return function(err) { // do something with i } }
[00:07] chapel: then something(i, callback(i))
[00:07] chapel: anyways
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[00:07] thepatr1ck: chapel: that's basically what I was suggesting (just without the named function) too
[00:08] chapel: I didn't see yours
[00:08] chapel: yeah, looks like it
[00:08] chapel: though I prefer not to self invoke anonymously if I can help it
[00:08] chapel: but the same code :)
[00:09] thepatr1ck: fair enough :)
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[00:19] secoif: is there a way to pretty print in the node repl?
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[00:20] Leemp: WarheadsSE: Wasn't familiar with Reverse Proxy, this sounds like exactly what i need: http://thechangelog.com/post/872114581/node-http-proxy-reverse-proxy-for-node-js Thank you :)
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[00:21] Leemp: WarheadsSE: Also, i was afk, thank you for using my name :)
[00:21] WarheadsSE: :)
[00:22] eeemsi: hi there
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[00:23] eeemsi: is there a way to install a package via npm behind a firewall that only lets things via port 80 and 443 through a proxy?
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[00:28] thepatr1ck: Leemp: we're using nodejitsu's node-http-proxy, it's fairly nice to work with (has some little gotchas if you stray from the defaults, nothing too terrible though)
[00:29] Leemp: thepatr1ck: My needs are pretty simple too, just some inhouse tools
[00:29] Leemp: thepatr1ck: Basically i'm just wrapping other tools, hence why i need a way to pipe data, rather than "properly" integrating the two programs
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[00:30] prettyrobots: tjholowaychuk: I'd like the optional callback to `connect.static` to return `true` if the request was handled.
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[00:32] EhevuTov: anyone here of Node.js interacting with Vertica?
[00:32] prettyrobots: tjholowaychuk: I'd like to use `connect.static` with Streamline.js, and there are paths through `connect.static` where the optional callback is not called. When it is called, you only know if there is an error or not, not if the request was handled.
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[00:33] tjholowaychuk: prettyrobots if it's not handled it's invoked
[00:33] tjholowaychuk: if it is handled it's not invoked at all
[00:33] prettyrobots: Right.
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[00:33] prettyrobots: Which works find within `connect`.
[00:33] tenthfloor: big room
[00:33] prettyrobots: But not in my use case.
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[00:34] tjholowaychuk: for sure. i have a callback: fn  option in there, using it for express
[00:34] tjholowaychuk: but
[00:34] prettyrobots: The fn is not invoked in the case of head.
[00:34] prettyrobots: It simply returns.
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[00:35] prettyrobots: I'm asking if I can submit a patch where the callback is invoked with an additional boolean `true` if the request was handled.
[00:35] prettyrobots: Not the `next` but the custom `callback`.
[00:35] tjholowaychuk: i'd like to get 2.0 out and then work on 3x abstracting things more
[00:35] tjholowaychuk: static() has so many gears it should be an event emitter
[00:36] prettyrobots: If we make this change, then `connect.static.send` can be used with Streamline.js.
[00:36] prettyrobots: If you allow this change.
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[00:37] tjholowaychuk: yeah sure let me know when you have a patch
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[00:39] secoif: is there a reason the inspect() docs don't include the 'enable colours' parameter?
[00:40] secoif: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.6.4/api/all.html#util.inspect
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[00:44] tanepiper: has anyone got v8-profiler working with node 0.6 ?
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[00:47] Leemp: How do you install an npm module locally? 
[00:47] tanepiper: npm install <module>
[00:47] WarheadsSE: go to local dir, npm install ....
[00:47] tanepiper: npm install -g installs it globally
[00:48] Leemp: tanepiper: Mine keeps going all the way up the stack and installing into ~/.node_libraries
[00:48] Leemp: (Obvious JS/NPM noob here heh)
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[00:49] Leemp: I read that if ./node_modules exists, it will install into that, but even after creating one in the ./ dir, still nothing
[00:49] Leemp: I'm on version 0.2.19, if that matters
[00:50] secoif: Leemp that's ancient
[00:50] tanepiper: of node?  thats very far behind
[00:50] Leemp: secoif: Thought it might be
[00:50] Leemp: tanepiper: No, of npm
[00:50] eeemsi: what feedparser do you recommend?
[00:50] secoif: Leemp we're up to 1.0.x at the moment
[00:50] Leemp: secoif: Think my version is the problem? If so, i'll get rid of this ubuntu trash and make my own heh
[00:50] secoif: for sure
[00:51] Leemp: secoif: Thanks
[00:51] secoif: 1.x there were a bunch of changes regarding global/local installation dirs 
[00:51] Leemp: It annoys me when i spend an hour googling up a problem, only to find out that feature X didn't even exist in the miles-behind-version that ubuntu is running. :/
[00:51] WarheadsSE: Leemp, node 0.2.19 ??
[00:51] Leemp: I may as well dump my ubuntu-node as well, update both
[00:52] chilts: I'd probably go with your own node/npm combination
[00:52] Leemp: WarheadsSE: No, npm
[00:52] WarheadsSE: oh, good.. freaked for a second :p
[00:52] Leemp: lol
[00:52] secoif: Leemp I use 'n' to manage my node installations, and the latest node should come with npm built-in
[00:52] Leemp: Seems ubuntu 11.10 is on npm:0.2.19, and node:0.4.9
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[00:52] secoif: Leemp https://github.com/visionmedia/n
[00:52] eeemsi: Leemp: just like debian ;)
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[00:53] Leemp: Ah ty, i was just going to ask how i would go about googling "n" xD
[00:53] secoif: yeah I have to have it bookmarked
[00:53] tanepiper: hmm :( https://github.com/dannycoates/v8-profiler/issues/9
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[00:53] tanepiper: seems v8-profiler has been abandoned
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[00:54] xerox: secoif Leemp also "npm doc n" and boom
[00:54] secoif: oh yeah. I always forget that
[00:55] secoif: `npm home n` also.
[00:55] Leemp: Hah, how weird. So, correct me if i'm wrong.. but you can npm install n, and then install node via n, and the latest node comes with npm in it? Good god, install circles from hell xD
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[00:56] thepatr1ck: Leemp: you don't have to use npm to install n :) 
[00:56] Leemp: thepatr1ck: It's just funny
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[00:56] Leemp: thepatr1ck: Feels like the world would tear itself apart if i did that
[00:57] thepatr1ck: agreed, it actually seems silly to me that you can install n with with npm. (especially considering it's just bash scripting in there).
[00:57] Tprice: is there any way to do a nextTick in pure js?
[00:58] AvianFlu: Tprice, in a browser, setTimeout(fn, 0) is very similar functionality
[00:58] dshaw_: ryah: isaacs: http://math.berkeley.edu/~auroux/53f11/
[00:58] TooTallNate: Tprice: not in "pure JS", but like AvianFlu said, you can do it in the browser if that's what you meant
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[01:00] xerox: dshaw_: what's the relevance, if I may ask? :)
[01:00] Tprice: AvianFlu yeah thats what im using now but if i had 200 events to run it locks up the stack
[01:01] chrisdickinson: Tprice: you can use postMessage and onmessage to simulate a minimum-resolution-less setTimeout in browser.
[01:01] Tprice: anyway i think im off topic
[01:01] chrisdickinson: or requestAnimationFrame works too.
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[01:02] Tprice: chrisdickinson in like a worker?
[01:03] chrisdickinson: Tprice: no workers necessary: https://gist.github.com/579895
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[01:04] Tprice: chrisdickinson: so would you say that window.on would be faster then setTimeOut?
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[01:05] chrisdickinson: Tprice: setTimeout has a minimum resolution; setZeroTimeout (the message passing one) does not.
[01:05] chrisdickinson: (setTimeout(fn, 0) will actually call `fn` somewhere between 0 and 15ms later, depending on the browser.)
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[01:07] Tprice: yeah seems to be a large overhead to setTimeOut
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[01:21] chapel: dshaw_: what is that link for?
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[01:22] dshaw_: Long bets.
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[01:29] chapel: ?
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[01:32] Crossdiver: I was told to bug bnoordhuis about make install
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[01:33] WarheadsSE: Crossdiver, pull from the 0.6.5 tag, not head.
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[01:35] Crossdiver: for (var i = 0; i++; i >= 0) { thanks(); }
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[01:40] ramitos: what is the best way to get the network ip with node?
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[01:45] Skaag: ramitos: http://pastebin.com/DFj30dtr
[01:47] ramitos: Skaag: I thought about that way, but I was wishing that was something more simple. I guess there's not :/ thank you very much ;)
[01:48] Skaag: well, it is not node.js's fault really, if you think about it
[01:49] ramitos: It's something hard to get. I just think that should exist a better way to do it without creating a server. Right?
[01:49] ramitos: not hard*
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[01:52] Brandon_R: hi guys
[01:52] Brandon_R: what's up
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[01:52] Skaag: ramitos: oh, sorry
[01:52] ryanrolds_: Skaag ramitos: Was the issue with https and remoteAddress fixed?
[01:52] Skaag: that's just an example - you don't have to create a server...
[01:53] Skaag: ramitos: the interesting lines are 6 to 13
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[01:53] Skaag: ryanrolds: no idea mate
[01:54] ryanrolds_: ryanrolds_: In 0.4.x you had to do req.connection.socket.remoteAddress when doing with https.
[01:54] Brandon_R: how does express work with https?
[01:54] Brandon_R: and how does node.js work with encryption in general?
[01:54] ryanrolds_: Just like it does with HTTP.
[01:54] Brandon_R: is it safe?
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[01:55] ryanrolds_: As far as I'm aware.
[01:55] ryanrolds_: http://expressjs.com/guide.html#creating-an https server
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[01:56] Brandon_R: is it able to create a node.js binding to http://botan.randombit.net/ or is there a better way?
[01:56] ryanrolds_: I'm going to talk to TJ about that anchor.
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[01:57] ryanrolds_: You would need to make the bindings if someone hasn't already.
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[02:03] isaacs: JasonSmith: hawt. http://isaacs.couch.xxx/registry
[02:03] CIA-109: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r59055b2 10/ (src/node_buffer.cc src/node_buffer.h src/node_vars.h): Move node_buffer.cc globals to struct - http://git.io/MP7KSQ
[02:03] JasonSmith: isaacs: You know it
[02:04] CIA-109: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * re10fd32 10/ (7 files): move global vars from platfrom, node_signal_watcher to struct - http://git.io/6lO19A
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[02:05] JasonSmith: isaacs: .xxx is likely to be banned/firewalled in corporate environments (that's the idea) so you shouldn't depend on its universal availability
[02:06] josephg: heee thats cool
[02:06] josephg: http://isaacs.couch.xxx/_utils/document.html?registry/share
[02:06] josephg: 
ACTION <3 couchdb

[02:06] purr: Let it be known that josephg hearts couchdb.
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[02:07] JasonSmith: josephg: I thought hyphens weren't allowed in semver (looking at v0.5.0-pre)
[02:07] JasonSmith: I thought you have to say 0.5.0pre. Am I just misunderstanding, or is it no big deal.
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[02:08] maxogden: JasonSmith: hell yeah http://butt.couch.xxx
[02:08] maxogden: buttcouch is going to be my new startup
[02:09] Skaag: lol
[02:09] ryanrolds_: Will this couch have casting calls?
[02:09] josephg: JasonSmith: Oh - maybe they aren't
[02:09] Skaag: where do you buy xxx domains?! :-) It's so funny
[02:10] benvie: any registrar should at this point
[02:10] Skaag: cool
[02:10] Brandon_R: hey guys
[02:10] Brandon_R: did u know couchdb was written in erlang?
[02:10] benvie: node.xx was first thing I checked
[02:10] benvie: for nodeporn, sadly taken
[02:11] benvie: nodejs.xxx though...sexy pictures of servers and javascript hmmmm
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[02:12] AvianFlu: s/javascript/sexyscript/g
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[02:12] benvie: oh yeah baby you know what I'm saying
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[02:19] lorfds: http://pastebin.com/zL6awt75
[02:19] lorfds: whats the best way to hunt this down
[02:19] devaholic: secoif ping
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[02:48] josephg: hm… t-re.xxx is free
[02:48] josephg: so tempting
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[02:48] josephg: and by 'free' I mean, $62/yr
[02:51] Hello71: apparently they get scanned by "McAfee protection" "regularly"
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[02:58] scott_gonzalez: has anyone had success installing the sqlite module with npm?
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[03:03] secoif: devaholic pong
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[03:07] blueadept: anyone here use mustache.js?
[03:07] kerang: scott_gonzalez: what error did you get?
[03:08] scott_gonzalez: kerang: https://gist.github.com/1445940
[03:08] scott_gonzalez: I ended up installing sqlite3 instead
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[03:10] kerang: scott_gonzalez: hmm, sorry, i didn't get that problem.. maybe it's platform specific issue
[03:10] scott_gonzalez: maybe, it failed for the other dev I'm working with too
[03:10] benvie: windows or not windows
[03:10] scott_gonzalez: OS X
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[03:10] benvie: nevermind then
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[03:12] secoif: blueadept I've used moustache, but prefer handlebars
[03:13] blueadept: really, why is that?
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[03:14] blueadept: handlebars has more logic?
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[03:19] secoif: blueadept yeah it's more full-featured
[03:19] secoif: and the website is prettier
[03:19] blueadept: heh, true
[03:19] blueadept: well the thing is i'm working with some ajax on ruby
[03:19] devaholic: secoif: node-directory has sync built in already, have you tried using it like you want it to work?
[03:20] blueadept: and i'm looking at ways to make the rewrite of the page easier
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[03:20] blueadept: i need a javascript templating framework to handle the json responese and push it onto the page
[03:21] blueadept: handlebars and mustache both look like what i want
[03:23] secoif: devaholic var directory = require('directory'); directory(__dirname+ 'plugins'); ??
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[03:28] secoif: blueadept you using sprockets?
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[03:33] devaholic: secoif: use the callback but assume it is sync like forEach
[03:33] devaholic: the callback is really a forEach
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[03:35] devaholic: hmm, you are saying essentially to make the callback optional too. that could work but you would have no way to access the required files
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[03:35] secoif: devaholic return them
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[03:36] devaholic: hmm
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[03:36] Leemp: With "n", how do you install/use/etc npm? n 0.5.10 installs 0.5.10, but my current version of npm doesn't work with 0.5.10 it seems. Thoughts?
[03:36] secoif: if it's not async, callback probably not necessary
[03:36] shannen: Does node compile on linux with python 3?
[03:36] secoif: Leemp the latest node is 0.6.5
[03:37] kerang: ryah: the change from c-ares to getaddrinfo for dns lookup in v0.5.10, is that purely to solve ipv4 ipv6 issue or any other problem w/ c-ares dns lookup?
[03:37] devaholic: secoif: that can be done. the callback was originally "each()
[03:37] devaholic: "
[03:37] secoif: Leemp bundled npm came in 0.6.4 or 0.6.3
[03:37] Leemp: secoif: Yea, i had the latest version of node, and the latest version of npm installed (i believe). But i need to use v0.5.10 for something, and i need an npm that will work with that
[03:37] devaholic: and it did return an array of the required files into it
[03:38] devaholic: i think i might add that back in and support both use cases
[03:38] Leemp: secoif: So, i ran "n 0.5.10" and now npm doesn't work, which makes sense.. but how do you go about using npm, with all the versions "n" lets you use?
[03:38] secoif: Leemp oh. I dunno, I never used any 0.5.x node, perhaps check the npm homepage
[03:38] Leemp: Ah, k
[03:39] secoif: Leemp install npm seperately 
[03:39] Leemp: secoif: I just assumed "n" had some type of npm management aswell
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[03:39] secoif: Leemp nope.
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[03:39] secoif: devaholic an array vs a { file: module } object?
[03:40] secoif: devaholic with an array how do i know which module i'm accessing? 
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[03:41] devaholic: good point, an object it is
[03:42] Hello71: well you can always encapsulate the module with metadata
[03:42] devaholic: actually this will be interesting
[03:42] Hello71: put another object around the module object inside an array
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[03:42] Hello71: could be faster if you're iterating just to find metadata
[03:42] devaholic: if your module executes itself when it is required, it would just continue loading into the same object
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[03:43] Hello71: eh?
[03:43] Hello71: i haven't actually read the convo
[03:43] Hello71: lol
[03:43] devaholic: { file: function () { ... }, subdir: { file: function () { ... }, subdir: {} } }
[03:43] devaholic: talking to secoif, sorry
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[03:45] secoif: devaholic that's pretty cool, though if you're going to nest subdirs, I'd like to have the option to get back a flattened list
[03:45] devaholic: if the directory you require contains a subdir it will require it, which may then require further subdirs, and so on, building an object
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[03:46] devaholic: one thing at a time :)
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[03:46] secoif: devaholic _.flatten would fix that easy anyway
[03:47] secoif: devaholic sounds good. 'recursive require' or 'require dir' might make a more descriptive project title too… maybe.
[03:47] devaholic: i didnt want it to be recursive =/
[03:47] secoif: haha
[03:48] secoif: ah well.
[03:48] devaholic: its sort of recursive-if-you-wanna
[03:48] devaholic: if your subdirs are without index files or other main entry points its not recursive
[03:49] secoif: devaholic yes. point.
[03:49] devaholic: also had the idea to filter out specific files... but we'll see how this goes first
[03:50] devaholic: i want to keep it simple and clean, and obvious
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[03:53] secoif: devaholic also, where are your tests ;)
[03:55] devaholic: https://github.com/tblobaum/node-directory/issues/3
[03:55] devaholic: right there!
[03:55] devaholic: no, really, its on the TODO
[03:55] devaholic: i just stripped that thing out of an app the day before yesterday
[03:56] secoif: devaholic an app with no tests??!!!
[03:56] devaholic: the app has many tests :)
[03:56] devaholic: i just didnt find it necessary to test a loop of requires
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[04:01] secoif: devaholic naughty. the idea of tests is to find the things you didn't think were necessary.
[04:01] secoif: devaholic the unknown unknowns.
[04:02] benvie: you don't know about unknown unknowns if you don't know
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[04:12] mikeal: SubStack: you need to put the node.js turtle shirt up for purchase
[04:12] mikeal: or else someone else is going to end up doing
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[04:13] SubStack: mikeal: I was thinking about text for it
[04:13] SubStack: "I like node.js."
[04:13] mikeal: "node.js is a rocket ship"
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[04:14] SubStack: I'm also considering doing a variant where the turtle is on a skateboard
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[06:01] context: any coffee-script ninjas here ?
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[06:05] EvRide: context: ninja? eh well it'll cost you. And I'd prefer if I didn't have to kill anybody.
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[06:06] benvie: ninjas kill people, that's their job
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[06:06] EvRide: benvie: yes, I'm a pacifist ninja... ever since taking up buddhism
[06:07] benvie: I bet it was all your buddies you saw face down in the mud in nam
[06:07] context: evride: ;)
[06:07] EvRide: benvie: wrong country
[06:07] context: im getting lost in the reduce() phase of riak
[06:07] benvie: france?
[06:08] context: its suppose to take the array of mapped values, or the return of a reduce phase and a list of mapped phase
[06:08] context: and/or
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[06:08] EvRide: ninjas don't come from vietnam
[06:08] benvie: are you referring to array reduce or what
[06:08] context: evride: if i paste a really short code piece think you could help?
[06:08] context: http://pastie.org/2984496
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[06:09] context: if i drop the first for in the reduce it /kind of/ works
[06:09] context: that current one doesnt work at all
[06:09] context: and turn [[ret]] into [ret]
[06:09] context: im trying to get just the smart number out of every document, then reduce to a hash with the smart number as they key, and the # of times it appears as the value
[06:10] context: ignore the \'s thats so i can run in repl
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[06:11] benvie: so I don't know coffeescript exactly but reduce works for doing what you just said if you modify/add a value onto the first param and then continually return the same value each time
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[06:12] context: but... how is reduce suppose to handle not knowing wth is coming in the params
[06:12] benvie: Object.keys(global).reduce(function(ret, currentKey){ret[currentKey] = global[currentKey]; return ret;}, {});
[06:12] benvie: as an example
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[06:12] context: :/
[06:12] benvie: the second param is the starting value
[06:13] benvie: if you don't pass that then it uses the first value of the array
[06:13] context: this is riak-js it says only takes 1
[06:13] benvie: which is often not useful
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[06:13] context: or im blind
[06:13] benvie: well then it's probably the first value of the array
[06:13] benvie: since there's not much else it could be
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[06:13] context: yeah thats why im partially confused
[06:14] benvie: reduce is like map except you're passed the "current" value on each iteration
[06:14] benvie: and return the next iterations "current" value
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[06:15] benvie: if you want to modify some existing thing then you should reference it directly. Like an object from outside the callback loop
[06:15] benvie: if its in the scope
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[06:17] context: still confusing me :/
[06:17] context: ill figure it out :/
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[06:37] garrensmith: morning
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[06:52] context: guess im learning this map/reduce more tomorrow :x
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[07:26] vinodp: any login script or example made in node.js?
[07:26] vinodp: need to integrate login and session handling in my app
[07:27] lietu: I'm thinking of drawing some simple data on jpeg images, e.g. bars for temperature, humidity, etc. was thinking I could do it with node, any suggestions on which of the many graphics modules I should try?
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[07:52] wedtm: I'm looking to build a very simple app that responds to JSON requests on certain URLS (RESTful), can anyone recommend a decent framework for doing that?
[07:52] wedtm: express seems like too much for what I'm doing.
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[07:56] insin: why does express seem too much? Sounds like you just need to hook up a few routes and examine request parameters. You could just use http.createServer, but express would take care of some of the stuff you would have to do anyway
[07:57] dexter_e: wedtm:  you don't have to use the generator and build the entire directory structure,  express can just be a single file and its really useful to have the request parsing stuff even for what your trying to do
[07:58] wedtm: Oh, awesome!
[07:58] wedtm: I'll look into that then.
[07:58] dexter_e: yeah you can run express and have it totally stay out of your way and just use what you need
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[07:59] dexter_e: you don't have to use the render functions, or middle ware or anything until you need it
[07:59] insin: express has a generator? I was thinking more of writing some JSON instead in the example on its site's front page :) http://expressjs.com/
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[08:00] dexter_e: insin: http://developtodesign.com/js/using-express-js-cli-as-a-generator/
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[08:01] dexter_e: but you don't have to do that , its just for convenience if you need a boiler plate with specific components
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[08:05] dexter_e: nodeJS.  it really is spectacular. 
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[08:08] insin: dexter_e: hadn't seen that before - I've always thought of express as only as heavy as you need it to be
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[08:59] aloshkarev: Hi all. Anyone got anything to solve the problem with running node.js 0.6 on Amazon EC2? Problem with 100% kernel usage.
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[09:07] skylamer`: гещ 
[09:07] skylamer`: hello giuys
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[09:07] skylamer`: is there some thing like stylus, jade plugins for Notepad++ ?:)
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[09:10] secoif: skylamer` vim
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[09:11] lzskiss: yo
[09:11] marcusl: Hi! I am searching for articles about sharing JS code between client and server.
[09:11] skylamer`: i know vim, so only there ? :)
[09:12] skylamer`: i will like some ports to N++ :D)
[09:12] marcusl: I read such a one some time ago but do not find it anymore
[09:12] marcusl: any hints?
[09:12] skylamer`: ofr if you generous, can give me some tutorials on that "server-side css, html and js" compiling of the .styl and .jade files with ease :)
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[09:15] secoif: marcusl http://caolanmcmahon.com/posts/writing_for_node_and_the_browser
[09:15] marcusl: secoif: thank you
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[09:17] booyaa: skylamer`: what plugins do you use for notepad++?
[09:17] skylamer`: a few
[09:17] secoif: skylamer` if you install express globally, I believe you can do something like express -t jade -c stylus and it will set up an app that will automatically compile your stylus/jade assets
[09:17] booyaa: i've yet to do any node dev using it, just mostly use it at work to wrangle xml
[09:17] skylamer`: yea, i have also express
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[09:18] skylamer`: so secoif
[09:18] skylamer`: i write styl and jade then with express just compiling it ?
[09:18] secoif: skylamer` yep
[09:18] skylamer`: k
[09:18] skylamer`: i've also looked some thing like /bin/stylus, but isnt not working for me ...
[09:19] secoif: skylamer` you can install stylus globally, and that will allow you to compile from the commandline
[09:19] secoif: skylamer` npm install -g stylus
[09:19] secoif: then
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[09:20] skylamer`: maybe i have to put some SYSTEM path variables idk
[09:20] skylamer`: yea
[09:20] skylamer`: thanks
[09:20] secoif: skylamer` stylus --help for usage
[09:20] secoif: yep
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[09:21] devaholic: http://easteregg.in/
[09:21] skylamer`: working now, thank y a gain:)
[09:21] devaholic: CHECK IT
[09:21] secoif: devaholic omfg that's great
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[09:22] skylamer`: cool, devaholic :)
[09:23] devaholic: oh no my asteroids killed the whole page
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[09:25] skylamer`: secoif, so im on windows and have several node_modules folders, also in the $%appdata%, npm and npm-cache in program files i have nodejs folder, can you tell me when installing and using what have to be the structure of all this folders, i mean there're a lot of "node_modules" folders shouldnt they be one or two max? :)
[09:25] secoif: skylamer` npm should deal with that for you
[09:25] skylamer`: hmmm, k
[09:26] secoif: skylamer` I'd make sure you've installed via latest node installer
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[09:26] secoif: skylamer` also, each project gets it's own node_modules folder.
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[09:27] skylamer`: so when i install something with npm, and its creating folders in lets say D:/ main directory its called project?
[09:28] secoif: skylamer` it depends what directory you are in
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[09:28] skylamer`: isnt that should be a module which i 'would' use in projectz, ...?
[09:28] skylamer`: different
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[09:28] secoif: skylamer` sorry i don't understand
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[09:28] skylamer`: okay, neva mind, its little strange for me
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[09:30] secoif: skylamer` basically, let's say you're working on your new money spinner app, and it's in the "C:/FacebookClone2" directory. if you `cd` into that directory and type `npm install express`, it will install express into C:/FacebookClone2/node_modules/express
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[09:31] secoif: skylamer` if you type `npm install -g express` it will install express 'globally', which for most purposes means you will have access to the executable script for that module
[09:32] skylamer`: secoif, but, ok, why its installing it there when i have it in %APPDATA%
[09:32] skylamer`: ahh, i understand
[09:32] skylamer`: so there are some types of install, and it can be 'duplicating' for one, and -g is globally for all
[09:32] skylamer`: right?
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[09:33] skylamer`: with install i am installing it many times, and -g i CAN use it on all of 'projects'?
[09:33] secoif: skylamer` you can't use a global installation in an app though
[09:33] secoif: np
[09:33] secoif: no.
[09:34] skylamer`: xaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:34] skylamer`: mmmmm
[09:34] secoif: skylamer` generally, you'll setup a package.json file which will contain all of the info about your project's modules
[09:34] skylamer`: yes, and -global install then is for using the 'modules' locally or ?
[09:34] secoif: skylamer` and then just cd into your project directory, and type `npm install` and it will look at the dependencies in the package.json and install all of them fort you
[09:35] skylamer`: by locally i mean from command line and can run in to local files
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[09:35] skylamer`: okay, thank you for your patience once m again, u help me alot:)
[09:36] secoif: skylamer` you get access to whatever executable scripts the module has exposed. not all modules have an executable mode 
[09:36] secoif: skylamer` …when you install a module globally
[09:36] secoif: skylamer` easiest way to configure your package.json is to use `npm init` in your project directory
[09:37] secoif: skylamer` it will prompt you for a bunch of info
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[09:37] secoif: skylamer` then use `npm install --save express` to install express into the local node_modules folder and add an entry to your package.json
[09:38] skylamer`: i also experiencing errors, with some installs and their dependencies'', its saying im using "newer" version:)
[09:38] secoif: skylamer` make sure you're always running latest version of node and npm and you should have good time.
[09:39] skylamer`: i.e 'expresso'
[09:39] skylamer`: its latest
[09:39] secoif: skylamer` what version of node
[09:39] skylamer`: i looked to npm-debug.log
[09:39] skylamer`: 0.6.5
[09:39] secoif: ok
[09:39] skylamer`: a 1.1.0-alpha6 of npm:)
[09:39] secoif: skylamer` it's possible some modules haven't caught up yet
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[09:40] skylamer`: yes
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[09:48] skylamer`: devaholic, add the 'ninja reader' its also some kind of easter egg :)
[09:49] devaholic: RAPTORS
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[09:54] zomg: Hrms
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[09:54] zomg: Is v8-profiler broken in 0.6.x?
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[09:55] zomg: Right, I suppose it might be. Latest commit on v8-profiler on github says "build on node 0.3.2-pre"...
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[10:09] booyaa: netsplit?
[10:10] skylamer`: Error: require.paths is removed. Use node_modules folders, or the NODE_PATH envi
[10:10] skylamer`: ronment variable instead.
[10:10] skylamer`: whats the fix for that problem , u know? :)
[10:10] skylamer`: its look like "require.paths " is dprecated
[10:11] konobi: it's in the error message
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[10:13] skylamer`: yes NODE_PATH variable, but to use it where, in the env variables or in the .js file?
[10:14] skylamer`: i mean i have to change the NODE_PATH of the module or project every time when this error happens...
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[10:31] konobi: any italians around?
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[10:35] Glenjamin: skylamer`: the 'correct' fix is to not modify the load path at runtime
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[10:39] torbjorn_: Hey, everybody .. Running nodejs and npm packages from Debian sid. Installed nodeunit using npm, and I can see it in ~/.node_libraries, but I can't get a script or REPL to do "require('nodeunit')", I get "Cannot find module .."
[10:41] konobi: use a node_modules directory instead
[10:41] torbjorn_: konobi: Is that something I tell npm to do, or should I just move the node_libraries directory ?
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[10:45] konobi: torbjorn_: assuming you are in the working directory you want... create the node_modules directory and then run 'npm install <module>'
[10:45] Glenjamin: if you want to use nodeunit in your module's tests
[10:46] Glenjamin: add nodeunit to your package.json devDependencies
[10:46] Glenjamin: and run "npm install"
[10:46] torbjorn_: okay, so nodeunit as a dependency should live in my projects node_modules directory, and not in users ~/.node_modules ?
[10:47] Glenjamin: yes
[10:47] Glenjamin: and it should be put there by npm
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[10:57] skylamer`: how to change the 'npm root -g' to what i want?:)
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[11:02] konobi: skylamer`: don't use -g... sorted
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[11:03] skylamer`: but if i awnt
[11:03] skylamer`: not sorted . . . :)
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[11:05] skylamer`: So there is no option to change the default folder where the "-g" modules are installed?
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[11:05] torbjorn_: I having trouble getting npm to install nodeunit anywhere else then ~/.node_libraries .. I have a package.json with devDependencies referencing nodeunit, and I have a node_modules/ directory in my project root, but still npm installs to ~/.node_libraries, and I'm unable to require('nodeunit')
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[11:05] skylamer`: .npmrc?
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[11:06] booyaa: http://blog.nodejitsu.com/npm-cheatsheet#Understanding_Global_versus_Local_installs_in_npm
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[11:09] torbjorn_: Is node.js 0.4.12 and npm 0.2.19 sufficiently new enough that module installation work as expected ?
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[11:26] torbjorn_: I installed npm from source instead of using the old version packaged in Debian, seems to work better
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[11:28] tanepiper: debian packages are always going to be out of date with the speed that nodejs + npm changge
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[11:41] joeytwiddle: a funny thing
[11:41] joeytwiddle: i use debian stable, then install a load of stuff in /usr/local :)
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[11:53] zomg: Oh poo
[11:54] zomg: Is there any stable alternative for node-inspector/v8-profiler for 0.6.x?
[11:54] Glenjamin: zomg: not that i've seen :(
[11:54] zomg: Keeps exploding when I'm trying to profile my app, if it isn't v8profiler, then it's inspector exploding when trying to view the cpu profile :|
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[12:00] konobi: do the italian nodejs folk have their own channel?
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[12:15] adrianF: hello, was there a netsplit or something else today at 11.16? (our node-irc bot crashed with "Unknown system errno 110")
[12:15] mmalecki: adrianF: highly possible
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[12:17] zomg: adrianF: it's kinda annoying node-irc doesn't handle connection errors
[12:17] zomg: you have to hook directly into the connection object used by it in order to not have it die from such
[12:18] mmalecki: node-irc isn't the best irc client out there, really
[12:18] mmalecki: but I don't think there's anything better.
[12:18] zomg: It seems to do the job, so yeah
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[12:19] whitman: mmalecki, there's a pull request waiting which should handle connection errors, but the owner hasn't pulled any patches for a while.
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[12:21] mmalecki: oh, right
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[12:21] mmalecki: I e-mailed him some time ago asking if he'd like some help but he didn't reply
[12:21] mmalecki: s/reply/want any help/
[12:22] whitman: I've got a couple of patches waiting for it as well.  Doesn't look like he's done anything on github, public at least, since 24th Nov.
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[12:22] Edy: is there a way to download the diff of the pull request? https://github.com/martynsmith/node-irc/pull/75/files
[12:23] mmalecki: whitman: you should prolly fork it/talk to him
[12:23] whitman: Edy, https://github.com/martynsmith/node-irc/pull/75.diff
[12:23] Edy: thanks :)
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[12:24] whitman: Just stick .diff after the pull id :)
[12:24] whitman: mmalecki, I don't really have time to maintain it at the moment.
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[12:46] zomg: oh wut
[12:46] zomg: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
[12:46] zomg: o_O
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[12:53] triptec: is making a irc like server for 10k users viable in node.js?
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[12:56] wao: :x
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[12:57] wao: triptec: i'm in!
[12:57] whitman: triptec, https://github.com/alexyoung/ircd.js
[12:57] wao: mm
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[12:58] wao: ah, s-2-s is still planned
[12:58] wao: :/
[12:58] triptec: s-2-s ?
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[12:58] triptec: but that seems to be a quite ambious one no?
[12:59] zomg: oh right, code was trying to allocate a buffer of 322961396...
[12:59] zomg: (std::bad_alloc)
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[13:04] wao: triptec: server to server
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[13:12] wereHamster: if I use process.nextTick() multiple times, are those callbacks guaranteed to be executed in the same order as I call nextTick()?
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[13:23] gripir: hm is there no good example/how-to for the node-oauth module?
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[13:24] cp42: hey folks
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[13:25] cp42: is there a way to easily marshal/unmarshal a Buffer object? i would like to dump all packets to disk which my server does not understand to analye them later on
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[13:27] wereHamster: cp42: write it to a file?
[13:27] tanepiper: ugh i just watched the Rick Perry video
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[13:28] tanepiper: whoops, wrong chan :D
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[13:29] cp42: wereHamster: yeah, that's what i want to do
[13:29] wereHamster: cp42: open the file, then write to it. Where's the problem?
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[13:57] fameworker: Q: how do i build node.js as binary with statically linked libssl for ia32 ?
[13:57] zomg: Anyone wanna help me a bit with buffers and parsing a binary protocol?
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[13:57] zomg: I'm trying to port code which uses node-binary into using buffers but having a bit trouble with it
[13:58] zomg: Basically for now I'm trying to get three int32's (eg. 12 bytes) off the stream, which works ok using node-binary but produces completely incorrect numbers using buffer.readUInt32LE
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[13:59] chiyam: how to do jsonp with nodejs?
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[14:01] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: ping?
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[14:01] fameworker: @chiyam: jsonp? you want to require script from remote and execute in node?
[14:01] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: pong?
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[14:01] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: unix fairy tale time?
[14:01] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: heh, sorry - some other time
[14:02] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: ok :)
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[14:02] fameworker: no one ever build node.js with static linked libssl ?
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[14:02] bnoordhuis: fameworker: check out the master branch, it bundles openssl
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[14:03] lz: mornin
[14:03] fameworker: @bnoordhuis: thx i give it a try
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[14:04] arcanis: do you know a Node module which create an AST from a js source code, without skipping comments ?
[14:05] arcanis: (uglifyjs seems to drop them)
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[14:08] wereHamster: so, nobody knows about the ordering of nextTick()?
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[14:10] zomg: I have a buffer like this
[14:10] zomg: <Buffer 00 00 00 40 13 00 00 00 01 00 00 00>
[14:10] zomg: so that's three int32 values
[14:11] tuhoojabotti: Yes=
[14:11] zomg: if I buf.readUInt32LE(1) the value I get is something like 318767104
[14:11] tuhoojabotti: hmm, my shift key is having problems
[14:11] zomg: the actual value I want is 19
[14:11] einaros: zomg: use the BE-method
[14:11] tuhoojabotti: you read at 1?
[14:11] tuhoojabotti: no no
[14:11] tuhoojabotti: you read at 0, 4 and so on
[14:11] TheJH: zomg, you want buf.readUInt32LE(0), buf.readUInt32LE(4) and buf.readUInt32LE(8)
[14:11] tuhoojabotti: Ye
[14:11] zomg: Ohhh of course
[14:12] zomg: I was in the mindset of the index taking the size what you're reading into account :P
[14:12] zomg: but yeah now that you said that, it makes more sense like that
[14:12] tuhoojabotti: Aye
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[14:13] zomg: Excellent, now it seems to work so far =)
[14:13] zomg: Thanks
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[14:20] bnoordhuis: wereHamster: what ordering?
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[14:25] wereHamster: bnoordhuis: if I use process.nextTick() multiple times, are those callbacks guaranteed to be executed in the same order as I call nextTick()?
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[14:26] wereHamster: so nextTick(foo); nextTick(bar); is foo guaranteed to be executed before bar?
[14:26] bnoordhuis: wereHamster: yes-ish - it's an implementation detail but that's how it works right now
[14:26] wereHamster: ok, so I should probably not rely on it
[14:27] bnoordhuis: well... it's not likely to change but it'd be better if you assume random ordering
[14:27] pkrumins: the new blog post is out
[14:27] pkrumins: Node.js modules you should know about: read
[14:27] pkrumins: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/nodejs-modules-read/
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[14:35] konobi: zomg: checked out node-ctype?
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[14:38] zomg: konobi: I was already using node-binary but I'm trying to rewrite with buffer methods to get better performance
[14:39] zomg: I seem to have it working ok'ish now, just have some bugs in my parser =)
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[14:43] booyaa: can anyone recommend a search engine preferrably one that runs off nodejs/nosql. i'm looking at opensourced stuff so far i've come across xapian and lucene neither of which are node based
[14:43] Rushing[away]_: anyone have some quick links on running multiple node instances on the same port (ie multiple sites on port 80)? i want to understand the flow
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[14:44] booyaa: i want to index a bunch of books (epub) i know there's a epub npm, but would rather plugin an existing search engine instead of writing myown
[14:44] Rushing[away]_: i don'tk now of one booyaa, but you could install lucene (very popular) and use node to interact with it
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[14:45] booyaa: there's an npm for lucene? sweet
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[14:45] fameworker: :( cannot get node.js build with libssl staticl linked, getting: ./node: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shar
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[14:46] Rushing[away]_: no, but can't you use node to run other bash-like commands? (i'm new to node)
[14:47] booyaa: Rushing[away]_: found an npm for elasticsearch which is a rest driven search engine built on top of lucene
[14:47] booyaa: so this is a good starting point cheers!
[14:47] creationix: yes, node can popen other processes
[14:47] creationix: it can be expensive to spawn a process for many tasks, but it does work
[14:48] CIA-109: node: 03Tim Oxley 07v0.6 * r871194d 10/ doc/api/util.markdown : docs: document util.inspect's colors param - http://git.io/P-KDQQ
[14:50] chjj: Rushing[away]_: if you wanted to run a bash command you could do child_process.spawn('bash', [ '-c', 'commands here' ]) etc
[14:50] chiyam: fameworker: hi, ya is it possible to jsonp on both the client(browser) and server(node).
[14:50] chjj: but creationix is right, its probably not optimal in most cases
[14:50] zomg: Rushing[away]_: to run multiple node apps in same port you could use a proxy like varnish or use node-http-proxy or whatever the project was called
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[14:51] booyaa: awe hell yeah there's a brew formula for elasticsearch!
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[14:53] fameworker: bnoordhuis: tried to build node with static linked libs from the master branch, no success, still on target box node wants to load it dynamically
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[14:54] tuhoojabotti: { [Error: undefined recvmsg] code: 'recvmsg', errno: 'recvmsg', syscall: undefined } Why would I get this?
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[14:54] bnoordhuis: fameworker: master by defaults links against the dynamic libs if found, otherwise every admin on the planet would try to kill us
[14:55] bnoordhuis: tuhoojabotti: what's the stack trace look like?
[14:55] tuhoojabotti: Hmm
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[14:55] tuhoojabotti: How did I get that
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[14:55] tuhoojabotti: that's all I get from the error callback
[14:55] tuhoojabotti: from my udp socket
[14:56] tuhoojabotti: unless
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[14:58] tuhoojabotti: bnoordhuis: That's all.
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[14:58] fameworker: bnoordhuis: thats why i modified options.gypi and set 'node_use_system_openssl%' to false
[14:58] tuhoojabotti: or well
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[14:59] bnoordhuis: tuhoojabotti: err.stack
[14:59] tuhoojabotti: got it.
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[14:59] bnoordhuis: fameworker: did `make` build the bundled openssl?
[14:59] tuhoojabotti: bnoordhuis: https://gist.github.com/1447193
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[15:00] AndreasMadsen__: piscisaureus: I'm online for about an hour to discuss cluster 2.0
[15:01] bnoordhuis: tuhoojabotti: right, that's one of the great things about udp - the kernel signaled that something at some time went wrong
[15:01] tuhoojabotti: nice
[15:01] bnoordhuis: tuhoojabotti: try this: `strace -fe recvmsg node script.js` <- that should tell you what error you got
[15:01] tuhoojabotti: Well it might
[15:02] tuhoojabotti: If I was on Linux atm. :D
[15:02] bnoordhuis: you can do the same thing with dtruss
[15:02] tuhoojabotti: I'll run it on linux
[15:02] fameworker: bnoordhuis: yes, during build process stuff from deps/openssl/* was compiled and the resulting bin is over 7MB
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[15:02] bnoordhuis: fameworker: what does `ldd node` say?
[15:03] bnoordhuis: or rather, `ldd ./out/Release/node`
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[15:06] zomg: I don't get it. I have some code which keeps track of how many bytes has been read, and I'm definitely zeroing the size variable after finishing
[15:06] zomg: Yet it somehow is not zeroed sometimes...
[15:06] zomg: I wonder what stupid mistake did I do now 
[15:06] zomg: =)
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[15:07] fameworker: bnoordhuis: hm, among others it says: libssl.so.0.9.8 => /lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8 (0x006cd000)
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[15:07] fameworker: bnoordhuis: did i forgot a parameter?
[15:08] bnoordhuis: fameworker: try a `make distclean`, maybe you're looking at stale build files
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[15:09] zomg: Recursion mistake. Hadn't done that before
[15:09] zomg: :D
[15:09] zomg: Recursed into same closure, variable madness ensued
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[15:10] Ketz: hey guys
[15:10] Ketz: going slightly crazy with my 1st install of Node.js
[15:10] Rushing[away]_: is there a util library/module that's pretty standard for doing things like extending objects, checking for types, loading files, etc?
[15:10] Ketz: trying to run socket.io 's basic chat example, but keep getting "Error: Cannot find module 'stylus'"
[15:10] Ketz: any thoughts?
[15:11] TheJH: Ketz, run "npm install stylus" in that folder, retry
[15:11] Ketz: hmmm
[15:11] Ketz: now i get
[15:11] Ketz: Error: Cannot find module 'nib' 
[15:12] Ketz: did the same for 'nib'
[15:12] Ketz: now getting socket.io-client
[15:12] Ketz: geez...
[15:12] Ketz: this was supposed to be easy :)
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[15:13] `3rdEden: Ketz
[15:13] `3rdEden: just do npm install .
[15:13] `3rdEden: in the folder
[15:13] `3rdEden: the package.json is there for a reason
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[15:14] Ketz: sorry, it's my 1st time trying node.js :)
[15:14] Ketz: just did it
[15:14] booyaa: heh i be mcloving the back ticks in the nicks yo
[15:14] tuhoojabotti: bnoordhuis: I doesn't crash on linux. :P
[15:15] booyaa: when i used to nick myself away i would do booyaa[away
[15:15] bnoordhuis: score 1 for linux!
[15:15] booyaa: that upset a lot of peeps
[15:15] tuhoojabotti: bnoordhuis: I didn't doubt it.
[15:15] rachet: why would it upset anyone?
[15:15] booyaa: hanging bracket
[15:16] rachet: i guess the people that hang out in IRC are mostly programmers and nerds, so it makes sense
[15:16] bnoordhuis: the lack of symmetry... it's grating!
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[15:16] bnoordhuis: must close, must close
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[15:16] rachet: Tell me about (it}
[15:16] bnoordhuis: aaah!
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[15:18] rachet: if you want to annoy non-english speakers, 
[15:18] rachet: ¡partially excited
[15:19] tuhoojabotti: bnoordhuis: Actually, it could be, that I'm running 0.6.2 on my linux and 0.6.5 on windows.
[15:19] tuhoojabotti: Gotta test that, compiling :P
[15:19] tuhoojabotti: huh
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[15:19] tuhoojabotti: nvm doesn't find 0.6.5
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[15:22] Sorella: rachet, (counting (brackets (to (see (if (they're (properly (closed (still (wins)))))))))
[15:22] tuhoojabotti: Yes
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[15:30] context: any good sites to pastie coffeescript ?
[15:30] wereHamster: context: any pastebin site.. ?
[15:30] baudehlo: gist.github.com
[15:30] wereHamster: coffeescript is just text. plain text. ascii plain text.
[15:30] context: i was thinking maybe with syntax highlighting
[15:31] tuhoojabotti: pastie.org does some :D
[15:31] tuhoojabotti: or hmm
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[15:31] tuhoojabotti: ye, I think
[15:32] tuhoojabotti: oh no
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[15:32] Miko2: pastebin.com allows you to select CoffeeScript for syntax highlighting.
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[15:32] tuhoojabotti: Nice
[15:32] baudehlo: gist does too
[15:32] tuhoojabotti: gist is nice yeah.
[15:32] baudehlo: or use the extension .cs and I think it'll Just Work.
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[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * r248ca5d 10/ src/unix/error.c : unix: translate ETIMEDOUT to UV_ETIMEDOUT - http://git.io/V0P7Zw
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * r34e95d1 10/ src/unix/core.c : 
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: unix: make it safe to delete the default loop
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: Fixes a potential free() of non-malloc'ed memory. - http://git.io/a9ZZwA
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * r0db3274 10/ src/unix/stream.c : 
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: unix: check UV_CLOSING flag in uv__write()
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: uv__write() runs after the read callbacks have fired. Said callbacks may have
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: closed the handle, handle that graciously. - http://git.io/xIYovQ
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * rb89c31b 10/ src/unix/pipe.c : unix: fix warning: return 0 in function returning void - http://git.io/BqSpnQ
[15:33] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * r0d8cb08 10/ (4 files): Merge branch 'v0.6' - http://git.io/0zHnzg
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[15:37] dmsuperman: Using mongo and a series of several updates of an arbitrary length, would I be better off chaining them all to run in successive order, or would I be better just firing off potentially say...100 updates at once? Or does it not intelligently handle that?
[15:37] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: thanks for reminding me it's node.js channel, wouldn't know otherwise ;)
[15:37] dmsuperman: Er, specifically 100 updates with safe: false
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[15:40] HarryCukini: simenbrekken [~simenbrek@77.40.186.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[15:40] mmalecki: lol
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[15:48] adrianF: hello, we are running a node 0.6.2 server with forever on a ubuntu server. today the server crashed, but there is nothing in the logs (uncaughtException listener is active). how could that be?
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[15:52] rachet: adrianF: loggin is part of the app, not part of node. the application writer has to add the logging in
[15:52] rachet: that's how it could be
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[15:52] adrianF: yes sure we are logging
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[15:52] adrianF: but there was no action at this time
[15:53] adrianF: and i dont understand how the process can crash, when forever is running
[15:53] stagas: adrianF: node died before it had time to write to the logs
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[15:53] stagas: adrianF: forever only restarts your app when it dies
[15:53] adrianF: yes
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[15:53] adrianF: but this didnt happend
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[15:53] mmalecki: adrianF: forever is fucked on 0.6
[15:53] mmalecki: weird things happen
[15:54] mmalecki: please wait few more days
[15:54] adrianF: ok thx for info
[15:54] mmalecki: (or check pull requests - there's my branch which kinda works)
[15:54] stagas: adrianF: uncaughtException is evil, it can lead your app to an unknown state where weird things happen
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[15:55] stagas: better let it crash and restart
[15:55] adrianF: yes i read about it
[15:55] TheJH: stagas, first log, then crash
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[15:56] stagas: sure
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[16:12] fameworker: bnoordhuis:  a `make distclean` didnt helped, still the build is always linked against shared libs :(
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[16:13] bnoordhuis: fameworker: could be a bug in the build script, it's still experimental - `make V=1` gives detailed output, i welcome patches :)
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[16:29] kevwil: please help me, my mind is going to explode
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[16:29] baudehlo1: scanners?
[16:30] kevwil: I have node.js 0.6.5 installed. I run "npm install n" and "n install 0.4.12" so that I can run our app on an old version.
[16:30] kevwil: now I no longer have 0.6.5?
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[16:30] isaacs: kevwil: i think n stores versions in some kind of special place
[16:30] kevwil: did I just completely hose all my node.js stuff?
[16:30] isaacs: kevwil: what's `which node` output?
[16:31] kevwil: "/usr/local/bin/node"
[16:31] isaacs: hm.  that's weird.
[16:31] kevwil: "node --version" gives 0.4.12, not 0.6.5
[16:31] isaacs: i dont' actually know how n works
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[16:31] isaacs: try `n install 0.6.5`
[16:31] isaacs: i dunno
[16:31] isaacs: 
ACTION uses nave

[16:32] kevwil: I don't understand why I would need to re-install 0.6.5
[16:32] kevwil: but it seems to be gone
[16:32] isaacs: yeah, i don't know
[16:32] kevwil: I think I'll have to blow away all my node env and start over
[16:32] isaacs: maybe there are some docs here: https://github.com/visionmedia/n
[16:33] kevwil: 
ACTION thought all of TJ's node stuff was gospel ... guess not

[16:33] isaacs: kevwil: what does `ls -laF /usr/local/bin/node` output?
[16:33] isaacs: kevwil: there is no gospel in software.
[16:33] isaacs: WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!!??
[16:34] kevwil: "/usr/local/bin/node@ -> ../Cellar/node/0.6.5/bin/node"
[16:34] isaacs: ok…
[16:34] isaacs: well, that's odd, then
[16:34] kevwil: exactly
[16:34] isaacs: try running `hash -r`
[16:34] isaacs: then `node -v`
[16:34] kevwil: v0.4.12
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[16:34] isaacs: try /usr/local/bin/node -v
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[16:34] kevwil: same v0.4.12
[16:35] isaacs: or even /usr/local/Cellar/node/0.6.5/bin/node -v
[16:35] isaacs: looks like maybe n and homebrew dont' play nice
[16:35] isaacs: if you use nave, you can bug me about it, and i'd be able to help you more easily
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[16:49] fameworker: building node.js with waf was so much faster then now with gyp created makefile
[16:52] bnoordhuis: fameworker: try `make -j 8`
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[16:52] senorpedro: hi
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[16:53] triptec: hello
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[16:53] brianc: triptec: hai
[16:54] triptec: I'm about to make a little chat system using ws from a browser, do I need to use web sockets on the server or could I use sockets as in ordinary?
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[16:54] triptec: + I'm not too sure of what I'm talking about
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[16:54] brianc: triptec: use socket.io
[16:55] brianc: triptec: their docs pretty much walk you through how to make a little chat system 
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[16:57] triptec: ok, thing is I found this web socket-server for node.js that works but I'm no skilled server programmer, my daily work is php and corporate websites. now I got this idea and I would at least start right.
[16:57] triptec: but socket.io is that way then
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[17:02] spasquali: what is the best way to read a file byte-by-byte (where i want to process each byte as it arrives)?
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[17:04] isaacs: mmalecki: hey
[17:04] isaacs: https://github.com/isaacs/fstream/pull/3
[17:04] isaacs: mmalecki: how are you hitting that, anyway?
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[17:06] bnoordhuis: spasquali: fs.read(buf) + state machines
[17:08] spasquali: bnoordhuis: tx
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[17:09] joshsmith: felixge: ping?
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[17:09] felixge: joshsmith: pong
[17:10] mmalecki: isaacs: hi. installing nssocket
[17:10] joshsmith: felixge: do you use an ORM for your MySQL stuff?
[17:10] isaacs: weird
[17:10] mmalecki: isaacs: actually, it's a specific case
[17:10] mmalecki: isaacs: let me try that again
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[17:10] megalomix: hello everybody
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[17:10] isaacs: if you can repro, that'd be good.  that warning is there for a reason, though of course a ref error is no good
[17:10] megalomix: someone know a module to validate a form? i'm using Express.JS
[17:11] felixge: joshsmith: are you not happy with the JS objects I give you? :)
[17:11] joshsmith: megalomix: http://toolbox.no.de/search?q=validation
[17:11] felixge: joshsmith: but no, I use plain sql
[17:11] joshsmith: felixge: no, I am! I don't want an ORM
[17:11] joshsmith: felixge: I was curious as to whether you used straight SQL or used an ORM built on what you built
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[17:12] felixge: joshsmith: straight sql. Works good for what we're doing
[17:12] joshsmith: felixge: I have two open questions on SO, so if you could either answer them or take a little time to give me the knowledge to answer them myself, I would be deeply appreciative
[17:12] joshsmith: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8389369/writing-mysql-node-js-models-using-node-mysql and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8389149/how-do-you-mock-mysql-without-an-orm-in-node-js
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[17:13] mmalecki: isaacs: I can. https://gist.github.com/b822db4bf9aa53aafaa6
[17:13] joshsmith: they're pretty noob questions, tbh, but I've not seen many resources out there to point me in the right direction
[17:13] zomg: Hmm, moving from node-binary to plain buffers seems to have helped a bit but still spiking..
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[17:13] zomg: Someone needs to fix v8-profiler and node-inspector :P
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[17:15] felixge: joshsmith: a) You are using the User class like a namespace, not like an object. That's ok if you want to roll that way, but why not make User an object instead of a function and declare its methods directly instead of using the prototype?
[17:15] TheJH: zomg, you want to do cpu profiling? or RAM?
[17:15] mmalecki: isaacs: clone nssocket locally, I can't reproduce with different module
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[17:15] zomg: TheJH: CPU
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[17:15] isaacs: mmalecki: i can't reproduce with nssocket
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[17:16] isaacs: this is on a mac?
[17:16] mmalecki: isaacs: yeah
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[17:16] zomg: the application is not constantly having high CPU but it's spiking high a lot
[17:16] TheJH: zomg, run the code with --prof
[17:16] isaacs: weird...
[17:16] zomg: Oh? node option?
[17:16] mmalecki: isaacs: so, ssh again?
[17:16] felixge: joshsmith: b) Make sure the mysql client object is "injected" into anything you are testing (via constructor or parameter), then use simon. Use https://github.com/felixge/node-sandboxed-module if you have toto
[17:16] felixge: * to
[17:16] isaacs: haha
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[17:16] TheJH: zomg, then you'll get a file with raw tick data in the current directory
[17:16] isaacs: hm, sure
[17:17] isaacs: if you've still got my keys, i just need the ip
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[17:17] mmalecki: ok :). let me check my ip and add you again
[17:17] zomg: TheJH: I see, is it human-understandable or any tools you'd recommend?
[17:17] isaacs: oh, no, nvm, need the username, too
[17:17] joshsmith: felixge: yeah someone A to me
[17:17] rektide: streamie /win goto #tigervnc
[17:17] rektide: fffff
[17:17] joshsmith: felixge: on B, I'm not sure what you mean by "injecting" it
[17:17] TheJH: zomg, someone built a tool that can give you a nice formatted output...
[17:18] joshsmith: felixge: do you have any examples you could gist me of how you've used Sinon in conjunction with it?
[17:18] joshsmith: felixge: a private gist would be fine, if you're uncomfortable sharing at-large
[17:18] TheJH: zomg, github.com/bnoordhuis/node-profiler
[17:18] TheJH: zomg, branch "nprof"
[17:19] zomg: Thanks, I'll take a look
[17:19] TheJH: zomg, I built a tool from it that can also give you graphical output, let me push it...
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[17:19] mmalecki: isaacs: hah, actually, it happens only with this specific clone of nssocket
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[17:20] felixge: joshsmith: injecting just means that you can easily create "an instance" of what you are testing and control which "mysql client" instance it is using
[17:20] felixge: the simplest form would be to pass the mysql client object as a parameter into the function that does the work
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[17:20] felixge: in which case it's easy for you to pass a fake version in
[17:20] felixge: which is either a mock or a partially stubbed object using sinon
[17:21] felixge: sorry, can't give you concrete examples, simon has plenty general ones
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[17:21] TheJH: zomg, https://github.com/thejh/node-profiler/tree/nprof-html
[17:21] joshsmith: felixge: well thanks for the thoughts! btw, are the getters/setters I'm doing there in that model a good approach?
[17:22] joshsmith: and do you usually set up a controller on top of that to handle some other business logic?
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[17:22] TheJH: zomg, run the "nprof" script from that repo in the folder with the v8-log file or whatever it's called and you'll get two nice html files
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[17:23] mmalecki: isaacs: pm'ed
[17:23] zomg: TheJH: nice :)
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[17:31] zomg: TheJH: am I supposed to get errors about draw not being defined and such? =)
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[17:32] bnoordhuis: https://github.com/popular/watched <- ffs, eclipsed by bootstrap
[17:32] blueadept: real quick question, is hanldebars.js and mustache.js bascially the same, except that hanldebars is mustache with extra extensions tacked on?
[17:32] TheJH: zomg, huh?
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[17:33] zomg: TheJH: see here http://jjh.fi/~jani/nprof/bottomUp.html
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[17:33] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: but *we* had a bot.
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[17:34] TheJH: zomg, that's not the generated file, that's the template
[17:34] TheJH: zomg, when you run my patched nprof, it makes two files in your current directory
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[17:35] zomg: Ah right :D
[17:35] zomg: Well the other two seem kinda screwed too
[17:35] zomg: http://jjh.fi/~jani/nprof/ see there
[17:36] zomg: cpu_bu shows nothing but the /usr/bin/node text and the other one is really, really messy
[17:36] TheJH: that messy one is as it should be
[17:37] TheJH: the other one... mhm...
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[17:38] triptec: huh, how do I use socket.io client side and local?
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[17:40] triptec: socket.io-client I suess
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[17:43] zomg: Hrms
[17:43] zomg: http://jjh.fi/~jani/nprof/nprof.log I wonder what am I supposed to make out of this now =)
[17:44] zomg: That BSON.deserialize is taking most of the time I guess..
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[17:45] zomg: Does the GC ticks / total 37.4% mean it spent 37.4% of its time collecting garbage?
[17:46] zomg: Or is that percentage in relation to something else?
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[17:47] medice: triptec: socketio serves the client under /socket.io
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[17:47] triptec: ok
[17:47] medice: err
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[17:47] medice: /socket.io/socket.io.js
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[17:47] triptec: Do I have to use it like that
[17:47] triptec: ?
[17:48] raz: what's the last stable version of npm?
[17:48] raz: that goddamn "curl" installer is a trainwreck
[17:48] medice: http://socket.io/ do what's there
[17:48] raz: ehm. curl-"installer".
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[17:48] isaacs: raz: trainwreck?
[17:48] isaacs: raz: you got a gist of its output?
[17:48] raz: isaacs: broken by design
[17:48] isaacs: raz: no, it's not broken by design.
[17:48] raz: yes it very much is
[17:49] raz: i'm trying to pin a deployment to a node/npm version here
[17:49] TheJH: zomg, " 63600   52.2%    0.0%  f57fe000-f57ff000" - you should re-run your code with a normal C profiler
[17:49] raz: curl-installers just don't fly in production
[17:49] TheJH: zomg, valgrind stuff or so
[17:49] isaacs: raz: if you think the design is broken, i'd like to know what you think is broken about it.  "broken by design" would imply that i intentionally made it broken, which is definitely false.
[17:49] raz: and sudo curl installers ... don't get me started
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[17:49] isaacs: raz: you can download the installer and run it yourself, or just look at what it's doing.  it's not very complicated.
[17:49] raz: isaacs: it makes it impossible to predict what version gets installed. and it fails on me every time i change node version.
[17:49] raz: isaacs: are you the npm author?
[17:50] isaacs: raz: or you can just install node 0.6.5 with make install, and get npm 1.1.0-alpha-6, which is the latest most portable version
[17:50] isaacs: s
[17:50] isaacs: raz: yessir.
[17:50] zomg: TheJH: oh? does that f57.... thing mean some native code or what exactly?
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[17:50] raz: isaacs: can you just make a tarball available?  or mention the latest stable tag somewhere?
[17:50] trose: hey all so i'm linking expressjs and socket.io according to blinzeln's blog and i'm having problems with my socket and server having different sessionID's it works fine on localhost but fails when i try to connect through my external IP
[17:50] TheJH: zomg, yes
[17:50] isaacs: raz: http://registry.npmjs.org/npm/
[17:50] raz: preferably along with the node-version that it is tested with
[17:50] isaacs: raz: like i said, the best thing to do right now is to just `make install` node 0.6.5
[17:51] raz: ah it ships with node now?
[17:51] isaacs: raz: this is tested on linux, windows, solaris, and os x, and is highly predictable.
[17:51] isaacs: yessir
[17:51] raz: ah, that sounds good
[17:51] isaacs: raz: if you want to *not* get npm, you can ./configure --without-npm
[17:51] raz: one headache less i hope
[17:51] raz: 
ACTION goes to fetch 0.6.5

[17:51] isaacs: that's the idea :)
[17:51] zomg: TheJH: Probably mongo native or something guessing from mongoose stuff being that high on the JS listing
[17:52] isaacs: raz: the reason why the version says "alpha" is that the javascript tar implementation is still very new.
[17:52] TheJH: zomg, maybe, but you should profile it anyway
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[17:52] isaacs: raz: also, it will never be able to work on node 0.4, so i'm not making it the default install target until more people have a chance to upgrade to 0.6
[17:52] isaacs: raz: it'll be beta very soon, but there's still quite a bit of work to do
[17:52] raz: isaacs: i frankly don't care which version i get. i just need to be able to test a node/npm combo and then reliably deploy that very combo. in the past npm was completely unpredictable.
[17:52] zomg: TheJH: yep
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[17:53] isaacs: raz: you can also specify the "npm_install" env to the install.sh script to tell it which thing to fetch
[17:53] isaacs: raz: npm_install=alpha ./install.sh
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[17:53] raz: isaacs: a thousand times no. installers are not supposed to fetch.
[17:53] isaacs: raz: ok, so, check out the code and `make install` it.
[17:53] isaacs: fix it to a git sha
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[17:53] raz: doing that right now :)
[17:53] isaacs: you can still do all that, you know :)
[17:53] isaacs: npm has a git repo
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[17:54] isaacs: there are tags, which are signed with my gpg key
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[17:54] raz: isaacs: i just hope node will install a working npm along with the rest - from there i'm happy.
[17:54] muloka: isaacs: if you can get something like http://search.npmjs.org/?q=<keyword> working that would be nice.
[17:54] isaacs: muloka: that's all changing soon.
[17:54] mmalecki: yes :)
[17:54] isaacs: we're gonna just put the docs into html, and let google search it
[17:54] isaacs: because doing search yourself is dumb.
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[17:54] muloka: hehe
[17:54] mmalecki: 
ACTION has some design in place, will try to put it into CSS and HTML today

[17:55] mmalecki: muloka: he's not even kidding.
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[17:55] isaacs: mmalecki: kewl
[17:55] mmalecki: isaacs: btw, not sure if we want to use change id for this page url
[17:56] bnoordhuis: zomg: 63600   52.2%    0.0%  f57fe000-f57ff000 <- that's probably the vdso a.k.a. the kernel (more or less)
[17:56] isaacs: mmalecki: btw, we should parse the readme field of the data using the github-flavored-markdown package
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[17:56] bnoordhuis: zomg: so you're spending a lot of time inside the kernel, which is probably a good thing
[17:56] mmalecki: isaacs: I know, discussed with mikeal already
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[17:56] isaacs: kewl
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[17:57] mmalecki: isaacs: maybe we should have a directory for each module and html files for each version?
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[17:57] zomg: bnoordhuis: well it's not good when it's spiking a lot to 50-90 CPU use :D But yeah, at least it's probably doing something that should be fast, but perhaps it can be optimized some other way
[17:57] mmalecki: isaacs: like npm/v1.0.106.html ?
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[17:57] isaacs: mmalecki: hm.  i dunno
[17:58] isaacs: mmalecki: let's start with just having the latest readme for each package as index.html
[17:58] mmalecki: yeah, well, it makes linking way easier
[17:58] mmalecki: alright!
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[17:58] bnoordhuis: zomg: the vdso is the userland part of the kernel, that's where syscalls like gettimeofday() end up
[17:58] mmalecki: so npm/index.html would be a readme for latest version?
[17:58] isaacs: docs.npmjs.org/blah should show something useful
[17:58] isaacs: mmalecki: sure
[17:58] mmalecki: ok!
[17:58] bnoordhuis: zomg: `strace -c node script.js` should tell you what's going on
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[17:58] isaacs: mmalecki: and then we could extend that to add a folder for each version, and a symlink to the version for each dist-tag (or just a copy, idk)
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[17:59] zomg: bnoordhuis: thanks :) I guess the /usr/local/bin/node part means that's how much JS code is taking?
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[17:59] mmalecki: isaacs: definitely
[17:59] bnoordhuis: zomg: yes (mostly)
[17:59] TheJH: mmalecki, you're doing the "readme on npmjs.org" stuff? :)
[17:59] mmalecki: TheJH: yes
[17:59] TheJH: mmalecki, in couchdb, right?
[17:59] mmalecki: TheJH: not really
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[17:59] mmalecki: TheJH: static files man
[18:00] TheJH: mmalecki, ah, what isaacs talked about, ok
[18:00] zomg: bnoordhuis: Okay, what about that GC thing? 37.4%? Is that relative to the /usr/local/bin/node percentage or...?
[18:00] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: does your profiler work on 0.6?
[18:00] TheJH: mmalecki, yes
[18:00] mmalecki: win!
[18:01] mmalecki: so I can write `onAny` later
[18:01] TheJH: mmalecki, or wait
[18:01] mmalecki: 
ACTION is procrastinating rewriting forever

[18:01] TheJH: mmalecki, actually, I only tried the ticks reformatter
[18:01] TheJH: mmalecki, didn't try the module itself
[18:01] TheJH: mmalecki, sorry
[18:01] mmalecki: ok, will try
[18:01] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: the nprof branch does
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[18:02] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: yay! <3 <3 <3
[18:02] bnoordhuis: zomg: no, that's a run-time total
[18:02] TheJH: bnoordhuis, btw, did I show you my nprof with html output stuff?
[18:02] bnoordhuis: TheJH: no
[18:03] zomg: bnoordhuis: so out of the entire run time it spent almost 40% GC'ing? It doesn't sound very good to me, though I might be wrong =)
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[18:03] bnoordhuis: zomg: gc is often the killer, i'm afraid
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[18:03] bnoordhuis: but... dinner first, biab
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[18:03] TheJH: bnoordhuis, http://thejh.github.com/bu.html http://thejh.github.com/td.html - click any box to go into it
[18:03] zomg: Think I'll have to see if I can help that at all
[18:04] mmalecki: SO MANY BOXES
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[18:04] TheJH: mmalecki, :D
[18:05] TheJH: mmalecki, click on them and you have less boxes :D
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[18:05] halfhalo: what is wrong with you people with your box addiction
[18:05] TheJH: companion cube!
[18:05] TheJH: <3
[18:05] trose: so the sessionIDs of my socket and my express server when i access my website from my external IP but they're the same on localhost... anyone know why this is/ how to fix it?
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[18:06] TheJH: halfhalo, ^
[18:06] halfhalo: <3
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[18:07] TheJH: halfhalo, box addicted, too? :P
[18:07] halfhalo: slightly
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[18:08] trose: so in my socket authorization i'm using data.sessionID = data.cookie['express.sid']; to find the sessionID
[18:08] trose: but req.sessionID in my server code comes up with a different number
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[18:10] swaj: I love the new changes in node 0.6.x since npm is integrated.  I don't do ~/local installs of node anymore.  I just have one install per box :P
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[18:17] eddyb: I love the topic
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[18:19] Edy: hi eddyb , nice nick ;)
[18:20] eddyb: well...
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[18:20] eddyb: edy/eddy was too common
[18:20] eddyb: I mean, not that common, but still...
[18:20] eddyb: I use eddyb where I can
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[18:20] eddyb: where I can't, I hope the bots that registered it die in a fire
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[18:24] zomg: Hmm, straced my code and it seems it's mainly just epoll_wait'ing
[18:24] zomg: I guess that's idling?
[18:25] zomg: I need to write a blogpost about this profiling stuff :) Not much useful info on it on goog, not easy to find anyway
[18:25] swaj: if I had to venture a guess, epoll_wait seems like idle stuff to me.  I.E. waiting for epoll to let you know if something needs to be done.
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[18:27] TheJH: zomg, I think epoll_wait is filesystem stuff
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[18:27] TheJH: ah, no
[18:27] TheJH: I think I just talked nonsense, ignore
[18:28] zomg: swaj: that's what I thought as well, based on my very very tiny knowledge of epoll :P
[18:29] swaj: yeah I'm no epoll expert, but the man page seems to support that hypothesis
[18:29] swaj: http://linux.die.net/man/2/epoll_wait
[18:29] swaj: waiting on a file descriptor
[18:29] swaj: i.e. idling :P
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[18:59] pigdude: how can i make jade not strip whitespace?
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[19:00] bnoordhuis: zomg: yes, epoll_wait() == wait for events
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[19:05] solhive: ?
[19:06] zomg: bnoordhuis: seems like it's spending half of its time idling then. Blah, finding out why it's spiking to 90% CPU is a bit trickier... =)
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[19:17] kenperkins: how do I change which port the debugger listens on when launching node? (i.e. node --debug ......)
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[19:22] pigdude: 1) how can i make jade not compress my html, pretty-printing instead?
[19:23] pigdude: 2) how can i make express reload code on change? is this possible out of the box or do i have to write a file watcher?
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[19:24] ryanrolds_w: Not supported out of the box.
[19:24] pigdude: ok, good to know
[19:24] pigdude: as for (1)?
[19:24] ryanrolds_w: You would need to add some watchers.
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[19:25] ryanrolds_w: May want to check if someone already made a module for this.
[19:25] lz: jade doesn't compress my html
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[19:25] lz: wait, it does
[19:25] ryanrolds_w: Are you wanting to restart on a change to express or to a static file that express is serving?
[19:25] skylamer`: hey pretty boys, im making .styl to .css and its only showing "body { ... }", the compiling is taking place without errors, why?:)
[19:25] lz: I just always use inspect element and it beautifies everything
[19:27] skylamer`: its not 'very' nodejs related, but may be some one here knows :)
[19:30] ryanrolds_w: skylamer`: If you're looking for pretty boys you may want to check the #python channel. As for your question, do you have a small example of the .styl that isn't working?
[19:31] skylamer`: yes can show u all
[19:31] skylamer`: jsfiddle?
[19:32] skylamer`: its actually the .styl from semantic.gs :)
[19:32] ryanrolds_w: That or gist or pastebin.
[19:33] skylamer`: http://jsfiddle.net/3Bpmu/
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[20:05] hotch: hey guys whats everyones favorite control flow library? i have a project thats gotten large and very modular, but i need some flow for viewing more readable code
[20:06] iammerrick: hotch: control flow meaning promises co-routines all that?
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[20:06] hotch: nah, meaning steps vs general callbacks
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[20:06] hotch: i tried out Step a while ago, just figured i would ask first -
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[20:07] rusintez: step?
[20:08] iammerrick: hotch: that is what promises attempt to solve
[20:08] hotch: hmm
[20:08] hotch: ok
[20:08] iammerrick: hotch: https://github.com/kriskowal/q
[20:08] snrmwg: a querstion using mysql in node: i need multiple selects to complete a request. i use mysql module for accessing db. so i nest multiple query calls in callback function of previous query callback. when should i call client.close()? how should i hande potential errors? try/catch doesn't seem so easy
[20:08] TheJH: hotch, "async" for a little bit of async
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[20:08] TheJH: hotch, streamlinejs for much async
[20:08] TheJH: hotch, streamlinejs makes your async code look sync, it is a precompiler
[20:09] hotch: ahh ok
[20:09] rusintez: nice
[20:09] TheJH: hotch, you just put _ everywhere instead of callbacks and it works. and it has builtin promises
[20:09] iammerrick: hotch: Q tries to solve the same problem without a compiler
[20:09] hotch: i like that approach
[20:10] iammerrick: hotch: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/modules#wiki-async-flow
[20:10] TheJH: iammerrick, well, you still have callbacks there, no?
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[20:11] hotch: i think i've just avoided it at the cost of some intense code being 5 tabs in and such
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[20:11] TheJH: iammerrick, if you just want to write higher-level logic, I think streamlinejs is the best one
[20:11] TheJH: iammerrick, but I wouldn't tell people to use it in small libs or so
[20:11] iammerrick: TheJH: you have promises either way.
[20:12] TheJH: iammerrick, but with streamline, you have no extra indent and no function definitions everywhere. and it's easier to make a previously sync function async.
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[20:12] iammerrick: TheJH: I don't know enough about streamline to debate but I have enjoyed Q a great deal, especially its implementation of joins for multiple promises (no 5 tabbing hehe). Any time I hear compiler or pre-comiler I am wary I am throwing away the very reason I use node, namely Isomorphic code.
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[20:13] iammerrick: TheJH: Sounds pretty cool. I'll have to look into it. :-)
[20:13] TheJH: iammerrick, what do you mean with "isomorphic" here?
[20:13] TheJH: iammerrick, whether it works in the browser?
[20:13] iammerrick: TheJH: correct
[20:13] jesusabdullah: TheJH: Yes, dual-sided
[20:14] TheJH: iammerrick, well, it does work in the browser
[20:14] iammerrick: TheJH: Very cool do you have to compile your code first?
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[20:15] iammerrick: TheJH: Yes.. It appears you do, I'll say away for the same reason I stay away from CoffeeScript; I believe in JS. :-P jk
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[20:15] TheJH: iammerrick, yes, that's the usual way - but you can also compile it inside the browser
[20:16] TheJH: iammerrick, actually, coffeescript lets you do <script type="text/coffeescript"> or so
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[20:16] iammerrick: TheJH: Not worth the performance hit, though that does make developing simpler. 
[20:16] TheJH: iammerrick, you just have to include a shim first
[20:16] iammerrick: TheJH: Debugging is the real problem with compilers
[20:16] snrmwg: a question using mysql in node: i need multiple selects to complete a request. i use mysql module for accessing db. so i nest multiple query calls in callback function of previous query callback. when should i call client.close()? how should i hande potential errors? try/catch doesn't seem so easy
[20:16] iammerrick: Also I tend to agree with using these things means giving up on JS.
[20:16] iammerrick: TheJH: all in all looks like a pretty cool and interesting project though :-)
[20:17] TheJH: iammerrick, streamline puts source file line numbers into the generated code and doesn't really alther the normal parts of your code
[20:17] TheJH: *alter
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[20:18] TheJH: iammerrick, see http://sage.github.com/streamlinejs/examples/streamlineMe/streamlineMe.html and check "show complete code"
[20:18] iammerrick: TheJH: cool! doesn't look terribly complex. 
[20:19] TheJH: iammerrick, and there's a company behind it that uses it for everything internally
[20:19] swaj: all these cross-compilers and transpilers and variations.  People should stop trying to write JavaScript like they write Ruby or synchronous C# or java and just learn the language.
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[20:19] swaj: it's not hard
[20:19] iammerrick: swaj: I tend to feel the same way.
[20:19] iammerrick: I much rather use a JS lib like Q for managing callbacks then a transpiler.
[20:19] iammerrick: sorry* compiler.
[20:19] TheJH: swaj, I basically agree
[20:20] TheJH: swaj, you should at least know how to do it right
[20:20] swaj: I mean you've got JS libs that make it so you can write a "class" in JS
[20:20] TheJH: swaj, but IMO you don't have to always stick to the classic way if other ways give you much shorter and more concise code
[20:21] swaj: I get that most people don't understand the prototype chain, but I argue that they *should* 
[20:21] iammerrick: I disagree it comes at a cost
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[20:22] iammerrick: Someone giving you more "concise" code doesn't mean more "maintainable" or "performant" but now I'm doing less work then I should so I'm going to have to checkout of the conversation :-)
[20:22] swaj: hehe
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[20:23] swaj: it's gotten to the point for me that I sometimes avoid libs written in coffee script
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[20:23] AvianFlu: swaj++
[20:23] catb0t: swaj now has 1 beer
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[20:25] srruby: Getting failure with npm publish Error: forbidden time must be object:
[20:25] bnoordhuis: kenperkins: --debug-brk=<port>
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[20:25] srruby: node -v v0.4.10
[20:25] srruby: npm ERR! npm -v 1.0.103
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[20:27] `3rdEden: Any `node-redis` users here know how I can do a `SORT key LIMIT 0 10` command with it =/
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[20:45] mmalecki: would you expect your command line parsing library to reparse process.argv every time?
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[20:50] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: continuously, in a high prio background thread
[20:50] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: YES!
[20:51] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: (but seriously, would you expect it?)
[20:51] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: don't think i would
[20:52] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: fair enough. the reason why I want it is that you can change process.argv
[20:52] mmalecki: and optimist is a real pita here
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[20:56] trose: does anyone know why socket.handshake.sessionID in my socket code would be different from req.sessionID in my express server?
[20:56] trose: they're the same on localhost
[20:57] trose: but different when i access through my IP
[20:58] eddyb: who the heck changes the topics?
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[20:59] eddyb: oh, rya_h
[21:00] mmalecki: that's a nice song.
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[21:08] Fernandos: hi
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[21:09] Fernandos: - I'm researching options for a realtime xml stream parser
[21:10] Fernandos: - in wich language do you develop nodejs modules? sorry I've really not worked with nodejs before. I know in ruby you can use C, is that also possible with nodejs modules, or is that even implied?
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[21:10] topaxi: Fernandos: javascript or c++
[21:11] topaxi: ^^
[21:11] Fernandos: c++? so C should also be possible then I guess, right?
[21:11] Fernandos: - I'm just more familiar with ansi c, than c++
[21:11] topaxi: well i guess... but the API exposed by node would be c++
[21:12] topaxi: Fernandos: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.6.5/api/addons.html
[21:12] Fernandos: thank you topaxi - ok, I've found some "modules" for nodejs on http://search.npmjs.org/ that can parse xml.
[21:12] EyePulp: is an XML stream parser possible?  Wouldn't you need some verification of well-formedness, which requires reading the whole doc?
[21:12] Fernandos: - very interesting
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[21:15] Fernandos: EyePulp: - It's not in my hands to guarantee well formednedss of that data feed, it's coming from an advertisement agency's proprietary solution that even relies on dtd instead of xsd.. so much for that part. It's a good point though, there should be some kind of validation before processing the data
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[21:16] Fernandos: EyePulp: a slice of the feed I received is about 200mb
[21:17] isaacs: srruby: you still around?
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[21:19] Fernandos: - oh, that's interesting.. I never heard about libuv, I assumed nodejs uses libev..
[21:19] topaxi: afaik they used libev, but had to write their own lib for windows support
[21:20] Fernandos: ah.. a wrapper ;)
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[21:21] isaacs: indutny: ping
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[21:30] Fernandos: - I've to test this, but it appears that I can use nodejs inside of legacy systems written in php by using DNode to return results for the parsed xml sections for display. I am not sure if using a compiled php module is faster, but it's less complex in this case..hmm
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[21:32] Fernandos: - oh..I could use a non-relational db like mongodb or something as backend cache, or do I miss a key technique in nodejs? Is there a builting caching layer or db?
[21:32] Fernandos: - a key value store actually would be sufficient
[21:32] swaj: I would recommend redis -- lots of libs for it, and it's quite fast
[21:32] swaj: and easy to use/grok
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[21:34] polotek: isaacs: hey
[21:35] isaacs: hiya
[21:35] Fernandos: - thank you swaj, I think persisting the isn't a need, so I can consider using redis aswell. 
[21:35] polotek: so it's odd that i"m still getting tripped up by this
[21:36] polotek: but if I have 2 modules that are siblings (in the same node_modules folder)
[21:36] polotek: they should be able to require each other right?
[21:36] isaacs: polotek: yes
[21:36] polotek: and if they can't
[21:36] polotek: what does that mean exactly?
[21:37] polotek: also, one of them is linked in if that makes a difference
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[21:40] polotek: creationix: hey man
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[21:42] waterhead: i know one is never supposed to 'lock' things in node
[21:42] pigdude: g ex
[21:43] waterhead: but suppose i have a scenario where a function does a couple of sensitive interdependent blocking db calls
[21:43] waterhead: modifying local state in such a way that i want to reject other requests that try to enter that function until the first call is done
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[21:45] waterhead: is there a clean way of ensuring only one request (in this case, one web socket handler) can get into a given function at a time?
[21:45] isaacs: polotek: it realpaths
[21:46] isaacs: polotek: so, it's based on the node_modules paths from where the actual physical file is
[21:46] isaacs: polotek: (inasmuch as file paths are in any way physical)
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[21:47] polotek: isaacs: so this is a minor whole with linking?
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[21:48] jayniz: salut!
[21:49] jayniz: since i upgraded my node to 0.6.5 and coffeescript along with it, the watch parameter of coffee stopped working. happen to somebody else as well?
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[21:50] isaacs: polotek: yeah
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[21:55] polotek: isaacs: yeah, install directly works
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[21:56] polotek: isaacs: can npm install a package from a github repo via clone?
[21:56] isaacs: polotek: yes
[21:56] isaacs: npm install git://blahsldhasldjfhasdflh
[21:56] isaacs: you need to use git+ssh or git+https to fetch using those methods
[21:57] polotek: isaacs: ah, cool
[21:57] isaacs: npm install git+ssh://git@github.com:isaacs/npm#v1.0.104
[21:57] isaacs: the #hash is the checkout argument
[21:57] isaacs: defaults to master
[21:57] polotek: more thoughts on our current process. but gotta run
[21:57] polotek: thanks
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[21:59] jocafa: has anything actually implemented es5 to any degree yet?
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[22:00] benvie: es5?
[22:00] benvie: you mean 6?
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[22:09] lkosak: Hey guys, I have a very simple app using felix's mysql lib, and I'm getting "message: 'EINVAL, Invalid argument'," every time I try to run a query
[22:09] lkosak: the same code works on my dev machine
[22:09] lkosak: the full error is here: http://pastie.org/2988221
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[22:12] Nopik: hi all.. node.js newbie here ;) 2 quick questions.. i'm past 'hello world' application with node.js + express.. now, i'd like to do some db connectivity as well as Facebook integration (as i'm trying to create very simple fb app). which modules/tutorials i should go through? (i do know things like fb api, javascript/coffeescript. etc. just been writing apps in rails before, now want to try node.js)
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[22:13] kenperkins: I'm having a heck of a time with node-inspector closing the connection whenever I try to view the page
[22:13] deedubs: aww boo I deleted my no.de machine and hoped I'd be able to pick it up again in 'Order machine' but its at capacity :'(
[22:14] kenperkins: any ideas what Im doing wrong
[22:14] kenperkins: when I load the url in browser, the command line says "connection closed"
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[22:14] bshumate: Nopik: these are good quality screencasts which might help you along: http://nodetuts.com/
[22:15] Nopik: yeah, been there briefly, learned how to get coffee script + nodemon ;)
[22:17] Nopik: i never used any nosql db, seems like they are very popular with node.js.. i can try something out there, why not ;) but i'd like something very lightweight to install and run. kind of sqlite, you know.. mongodb seem very popular, is it lightweight like this?
[22:17] Nopik: i.e. preferably just store db in 1 file, require no dedicated server process
[22:18] lkosak: exit
[22:18] lkosak: ugh.
[22:19] EhevuTov: Nopik, I'd suggest use Mongoose+MongoDB. MongoDB isn't hard and Mongoose will provide you something similar to what you're use to with AR
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[22:20] Nopik: EhevuTov: thanks, i think i'll try that
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[22:20] Nopik: any suggestion for fb canvas apps?
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[22:20] EhevuTov: I'm not familiar with that
[22:20] Nopik: i've seen facebook-client npm mode, seems interesting so far, but i don't know yet if it handles canvas apps too :)
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[22:24] Nopik: so, mongo do require separate server? ok, i think i can live with that ;)
[22:25] kenperkins: is danny coates ever in here
[22:25] EhevuTov: Nopik, yeah, you'll run a mongod for a single instance. It's not hard really
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[22:25] EhevuTov: I don't know your constraints, but I don't find it difficult
[22:26] Nopik: yeah, i figured it out.. just wanted something really lightweight for development, sqlite would be perfect.. i saw some sqlite drivers for node.js, but it seems that sql relational dbs are slightly not the 'node.js way' ;)
[22:27] EhevuTov: Nopik, not quite true, it's just that ORMs aren't that mature yet in node
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[22:27] Nopik: yeah, thats another thing ;) i hoped that i'll be able to quickly switch from rails, but more things are not as mature as i would like.. very promising, though
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[22:28] EhevuTov: Nopik, I've had similar issues. That's why I suggested Mongoose
[22:28] pita: Is there a hack to access module variables that didn't get exported?
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[22:29] WarheadsSE: pita, wouldn't that negate the point of module variables staying private?
[22:29] TheJH: pita, depends on the circumstances and how hacky it may be
[22:30] pita: TheJH:  debug circumstances
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[22:31] TheJH: pita, can you just paste a little piece of code into the module?
[22:31] TheJH: pita, global.myCoolModuleSpy = function(code){return eval(code)}
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[22:31] TheJH: pita, bam, that's it
[22:33] TheJH: pita, if you aren't able to do that, you could consider monkeypatching require.extensions['.js'] to inject that stuff and attach that eval to exports or so
[22:33] Rushing: anyone know the docs url for the "n" module?
[22:34] Rushing: trying to figure out how to load a version with some build options (no ssl, specifically)
[22:34] pita: TheJH: cool, thats what I need, thx
[22:34] TheJH: Rushing, https://github.com/visionmedia/n
[22:34] TheJH: pita, be aware that eval makes your code slow
[22:34] Rushing: thanks TheJH
[22:34] TheJH: pita, even if you don't use it!
[22:35] TheJH: pita, afaik, the very presence of eval causes many optimizations to fail
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[22:35] TheJH: but for stealing stuf from inner contexts, it's cool :)
[22:36] TheJH: pita, you can even give that eval wrapper to the repl core module and you should get a repl that's running inside the module :)
[22:36] TheJH: pita, actually, that's a cool idea...
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[22:37] TheJH: 
ACTION opens node issue about it

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[22:38] pita: TheJH: yeah or just add the spy function while runtime
[22:38] Nopik: ok, question about coffee script.. it does hide all symbols in anonymous function, so in browser i typically set global things (like classes) to window. how to do that in node.js? namely, i have some mongo model defined in app.js, how to access it from index.js?
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[22:39] ec: Well, this is fucking pimptastic.
[22:39] ec: http://dochub.io/#javascript/
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[22:41] Nopik: ec: nice, indeed
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[22:41] Rushing: where are docs for the configure options?
[22:42] Nopik: ok, i think i'm looking for exports
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[22:44] Nopik: no, when i do exports.Post = mongoose.model() on app.js i still can't access it on index.js ;(
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[22:46] real_ate: hey guys! i'm having a bit of trouble and was hoping someone here could help me figure out where in the stack things are falling down... 
[22:47] real_ate: i'm doing some https with express 
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[22:48] real_ate: and there is something strange going on where 3 in 4 times I try and reload a page in my app it doesn't load everything and just hangs! And web inspector doesn't show anything still pending, its like the full list of resources hasn't been downloaded or something crazy like that 
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[22:49] real_ate: which is crazy cos the full html is coming down 
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[22:50] stormeia: hello i want install last version of nodejs. So I write in console "./configure --prefix=/etc/nodejs" but i get errors: " Checking for program g++ or c++          : not found Checking for program icpc                : not found Checking for program c++                 : not found /node-v0.6.5/wscript:261: error: could not configure a cxx compiler!" please can you help me thx
[22:50] TheJH: stormeia, what distro?
[22:51] stormeia: TheJH: debian wheezy
[22:51] real_ate: ok this is defo happening because of the https... still poking around to see if i can narrow it down 
[22:52] TheJH: stormeia, apt-get install build-essential
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[22:52] Nopik: how to access exports variable from index.js express' view?
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[22:54] hipsters_: real_ate: i have the same issue with an app that isn't running on node, just started this week - can't help you though, sorry, because i don't know what the issue is yet
[22:54] Nopik: like i have that mongoose model defined in app.coffee and i do not know how to access it from index.coffee, actually (coffesscript is hiding it)
[22:55] real_ate: hipsters_: are you by any chance trying to use browser certificates? 
[22:55] hipsters_: using self-signed certs
[22:55] hipsters_: on the server
[22:55] real_ate: hipsters_: but you're not using browser certificates, as in anything that needs to be installed in the browser? 
[22:56] hipsters_: no
[22:56] hipsters_: so .. i guess our issues are probably not related, still weird that they manifest in the same way
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[22:58] real_ate: hipsters_: no i was just curious... i've turned off the client certificates and i'm getting the same problem but just less frequently 
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[22:59] hipsters_: real_ate: interesting. mine is just a standard LAMP stack, move it from the HTTPS side to HTTP and it runs fine, back to HTTPS and i start getting issues, haven't been able to diagnose why
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[23:00] real_ate: hipsters_: i'm thinking it might be something to do with the number of concurrent connections, I don't have any evidence to go by yet tho
[23:00] real_ate: time to fire up wireshark
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[23:01] hipsters_: real_ate: not on my side anyway, not unless the max number of concurrent connections is 2. only have 3 clients for this app - it's just an admin thing
[23:01] real_ate: hipsters_: what distro are you using? 
[23:01] hipsters_: ubuntu 11.10
[23:02] real_ate: hipsters_: well i don't mean client connections i mean concurrent connections... i.e. number of resources that can be simultaneously downloaded from the server at once
[23:02] ec: Hey, anybody familiar with node-waf know how I can make it add these to the linking call?
[23:02] real_ate: i'm on 11.10 too 
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[23:02] ec: `-lncursesw -lpanelw`
[23:02] real_ate: hipsters_: could be an os thing? :/
[23:02] hipsters_: real_ate: could be … never had this issue before the update i have to admit
[23:03] real_ate: hipsters_: me neither... i'll see what wireshark shows up 
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[23:03] hipsters_: real_ate: let me know if you find anything then :v
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[23:06] Rushing: where are the docs for the configuration options?
[23:06] ec: c'mmon, somebody's gotta be lurking that knows how to use this damn thing
[23:06] ec: 
ACTION glowers at Python

[23:06] ryah: 
ACTION hides

[23:07] mmalecki: wtf. my fans kicked in when doing npm link.
[23:08] TheJH: mmalecki, :D
[23:08] ryah: ec: https://github.com/ry/node_postgres/blob/764ad4218f412d24b5fbd5d996ad1a33571b21d2/wscript#L27
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[23:10] Rushing: SERIOUSLY where are the configuration option docs?!?!
[23:10] ec: ryah: SERIOUSLY!
[23:10] CIA-109: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r3d3f29c 10/ wscript : Remove wscript - http://git.io/AkUeEg
[23:10] ec: ryah: what are you asking about?
[23:11] ec: ryah: <3
[23:11] ec: er
[23:11] ec: oops
[23:11] ec: Rushing: SERIOUSLY!, Rushing: what are you asking about, etcetcetc
[23:11] ec: ryah: the <3 *was* directed at you though. :3
[23:11] ryah: thx <3
[23:12] Rushing: ec, i want a page tha thas the configuration options for node on it
[23:12] ec: Rushing: “configuration options” meaning ...
[23:12] Rushing: stuff that can be passed to ./config
[23:12] Rushing: ./configuration
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[23:13] ec: environment variables that affect operation? autoconf flags? flags set from within JS?
[23:13] ec: okay, autoconf flags. have you tried `./config --help`?
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[23:13] Rushing: environment, i believe. basically having trouble with ssl stuff in an older build
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[23:19] rektide: is there some way to tell node-waf configure to look for libraries/includes in supplemental directories?
[23:19] rektide: i have some stuff in /opt/thislibrary i need to bring in
[23:19] ec: ryah: lol @ “hack = ...”
[23:20] mista: hello i install nodejs on debian wheezy, everything was ok, but now when i try "node -v" it write bsh not found. I install it over http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tUfDWRIMpw&feature=player_embedded#!
[23:20] ec: ryah: any idea if that can take an array or something?
[23:22] ec: ryah: yesss. You are my heeeero.
[23:22] CIA-109: node: 03Igor Zinkovsky 07v0.6 * rb24cdb3 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[23:22] CIA-109: node: Enable upgrades in MSI.
[23:22] CIA-109: node: Fixes #2228. - http://git.io/SX9PwA
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[23:29] augustl: isaacs: any timeline for node-glob and the minimatch port?
[23:29] isaacs: weeks/monts
[23:29] isaacs: *months
[23:29] isaacs: it's not very high priority
[23:30] augustl: I see
[23:30] augustl: thanks :)
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[23:31] Fernandos: - has someone done a benchmark using weighttp on his nodejs stack?
[23:32] Fernandos: - I'm curious what rate of req/s you get. (threads, cpu and nic are important to know for comparison)
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[23:34] Fernandos: can someone post the results of: weighttp -n 1000000 -c 100 -t 10 -k "http://127.0.0.1/100.html" 100.html because I'm curious how long it takes for a 100byte file to reply
[23:34] quackslike: is Cluster the node app that allows me to run multiple instances of my app?
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[23:36] Fernandos: -t 10 makes sense when you've more than 6 cores
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[23:37] jerrysv: anyone know of a node module that mimics php's serialize/unserialize?
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[23:39] bnoordhuis: quackslike: you mean the core cluster module? or tj's module?
[23:40] quackslike: tj's one
[23:40] bnoordhuis: yes - both do actually
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[23:41] quackslike: bnoordhuis: Thanks! wasn't even aware of the node core module. :-/
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[23:46] quackslike: bnoordhuis: so would you recommend on over the other for any particular reason?
[23:46] quackslike: on = one
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[23:47] quackslike: Using the core module is there any benefit to using a number greater than the number of cpus (as it is shown in the docs) http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.6.3/api/cluster.html Or is that pointless?
[23:47] quackslike: my app will serve some files and i'm not sure if that means all other users will be blocked until the file is finished serving to the current client?
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[23:48] quackslike: so i was thinking i'd run multiple instances to make it more likely one of the instances could handle the request.
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[23:48] bnoordhuis: quackslike: depends - the core module is built-in and will be supported indefinitely
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[23:49] bnoordhuis: tj's module is more advanced though, more customizable
[23:49] quackslike: bnoordhuis: yeah i was thinking i'd like to use the core module rather than a 3rd party one
[23:50] quackslike: i also noticed that tj's one doesn;t liek 0.6* as supported at this stage...
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[23:50] quackslike: *doesnt list 0.6 as supported..
[23:50] shripadk: quackslike, if you are talking about express it works on 0.6.. clone from github
[23:51] quackslike: shripadk: i'm talking about the Cluster module https://github.com/learnboost/cluster
[23:51] shripadk: ah ok :) joined the convo late!
[23:52] quackslike: shripadk: i'm using express from npm install with 0.6
[23:52] quackslike: seems ok.
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[23:52] shripadk: it works for you? weird... i tried twice today! won't let me install. requires node v0.5.0 or less
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[23:53] EhevuTov: shripadk, did you update your express module?
[23:54] quackslike: npm info express - says: engines: { node: '>= 0.4.1 < 0.7.0' },
[23:54] EhevuTov: yeah, I think the older version of express says something like '< 0.5.0' or something
[23:54] quackslike: and version: '2.5.1'
[23:54] shripadk: cool let me try :)
[23:55] shripadk: 2.3.11 says that i guess
[23:55] EhevuTov: yeah, just update your version of express and let us know if that solves it
[23:57] rektide: what am i supposed to do with a .node addon once i have it built?
[23:57] rektide: is there some way to install it?
[23:58] shripadk: just require it
[23:58] shripadk: EhevuTov, works :D
[23:58] EhevuTov: tizight. group hug
[23:58] CIA-109: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * rc5e51ce 10/ (src/node_crypto.cc src/node_vars.h): Move lock back to node_crypto.cc - http://git.io/V1oFcA
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