[00:00] benvie: no better way to celebrate the act of programming
[00:01] SargoDarya: no better way to celebrate the act of fixing a typo to get it working again :D
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[00:09] SargoDarya: alright guys, thanks for the help. I wish you all a good night
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[00:38] CIA-109: libuv: 03Bert Belder 07fseventflags * rd35b903 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Add flags to uv_fs_event_init - http://git.io/gA2yiA
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[01:06] CIA-109: node: 03Igor Zinkovsky 07master * r7335a42 10/ test/simple/test-module-loading.js : fix test-module-loading on windows - http://git.io/hqAXGA
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[01:14] sorensen: holy hell
[01:14] sorensen: since when does jade support django style templating?
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[01:15] isaacs: sweet.  i can pipe one directory into another.  tar packing/extracting should be done this weekend.
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[01:16] benvie: oh my
[01:16] benvie: you sure know how make a fella sweat
[01:16] benvie: I will enjoy the day I don't need to manhandle npm on windows
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[01:18] sorensen: i will enjoy the day i dont ever use windows again
[01:19] benvie: see this is the thing. Windows actually kind of has a pretty good gui
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[01:19] DTrejo_: vs linux
[01:19] sorensen: i grew up with windows
[01:20] benvie: tell me how to fix the mouse being terrible on mac and I'll begint to consider it
[01:20] benvie: and I know it'
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[01:20] benvie: it's not just me
[01:20] sorensen: mouse being terrible on mac?
[01:20] sorensen: how so
[01:20] sorensen: i enjoy this magic mouse quite a bit
[01:21] quackquack: Why does Vowsjs throw "Cannot find module ..." errors for modules that I dont require??
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[01:21] benvie: I don't know how to say it in words. I thought it was just me until someone offhandedly mentioned it. The mouse responsiveness....it's fucked. I confirmed it by playing with various versions of Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
[01:22] benvie: those were fine, Mac OS Xanything, not so
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[01:22] sorensen: hmmm
[01:22] benvie: something is wrong and different and makes me angry
[01:22] sorensen: i have yet to notice i guess
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[01:22] sorensen: i do love my r.a.t. 7
[01:23] maushu: Anyone here uses rackspace?
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[01:26] sorensen: used to
[01:26] sorensen: never that much tho
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[02:09] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * rcee56c9 10/ src/unix/linux.c : unix: unbreak linux build, broken in 1997e10 - http://git.io/5AJvmg
[02:09] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * r9dc67f5 10/ test/test-fs.c : test: don't use _O_RDWR, windows-ism - http://git.io/uykrow
[02:09] CIA-109: libuv: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * rc468e2a 10/ test/test-fs.c : test: fix memory buffer comparison - http://git.io/5eMjiw
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[02:13] Mad: anyone have any details on the Windows7 components that are needed for node 0.5.10?
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[02:14] Mad: or how best to debug an http server that just hangs
[02:14] bnoordhuis: Mad: trace execution flow with console.error statements?
[02:15] bnoordhuis: kind of ghetto but the debugger doesn't quite work yet
[02:15] CIA-109: node: 03Ben Noordhuis 07master * r10edbbb 10/ (deps/uv/src/unix/linux.c deps/uv/test/test-fs.c): uv: upgrade to c468e2a - http://git.io/4vVr3A
[02:15] skunkape: Mad, setup a linux virtual machine. It's not worth fighting against your winblows dev environment...
[02:15] Mad: can't even trap a req using the basic example on the node site
[02:16] Mad: really odd
[02:16] Mad: looked through all the netsh crap
[02:16] Mad: have other apps running fine
[02:16] Mad: runs great on all my other machines
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[02:17] Mad: I'm dual-booting windows and ubuntu but have several .net project that I get paid from so it's kind of tough to switch back and forth
[02:17] skunkape: Mad, that's why i suggested a virtual machine...
[02:18] Mad: you use vmware?
[02:18] skunkape: i use kvm cause i'm on linux and i'm not a noob
[02:18] Mad: lol
[02:18] skunkape: you should prolly go with virtualbox
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[02:18] skunkape: or the native windows vm stuff
[02:18] Mad: k, I'll check it out. thanks for the advice
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[03:36] CIA-109: node: 03koichik 07master * r96fe504 10/ doc/api/child_processes.markdown : docs: fix typo - http://git.io/fPlsSw
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[03:41] gogo_: how do I make a page go live under a domain? 
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[03:41] gogo_: I tried .listen(80, 'example.com'); but it wouldn't show up when I entered example.com
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[03:57] sineltor: gogo_: you need to configure example.com to point to your computer
[03:58] sineltor: usually, this involves buying a domain name and all sorts of nonsense
[03:58] sineltor: - so it points to your computer's IP
[03:58] gogo_: it points to my server
[03:58] gogo_: I bought a Linode server so I ssh to it 
[03:59] sineltor: ok, then just .listen(80)
[03:59] sineltor: and it'll listen on that port on that IP address
[03:59] sineltor: a
[03:59] sineltor: and if your domain resolves to that IP, you're golden.
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[04:01] gogo_: how embarrasing
[04:01] gogo_: that I overcomplicated this
[04:01] marcello3d: gogo_: the second parameter on listen is for managing the situation where you have multiple network devices/ips mapped to your server
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[04:01] gogo_: thanks man 
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[04:01] sineltor: :)
[04:01] gogo_: another question, to show all my pages like home.html, aboutme.html 
[04:01] gogo_: would I have to include them in my .js files 
[04:01] gogo_: or just upload to my server? 
[04:02] marcello3d: gogo_: you probably want to check out connect or express
[04:02] gogo_: I'm new to networking, node.js, and servers. Sorry
[04:02] gogo_: I have express installed 
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[04:02] marcello3d: it'll simplify dealing with static files for you
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[04:03] gogo_: should I look at express's API about it?
[04:03] gogo_: I don't understand how express would show my static files 
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[04:04] Aria: Express can read files.
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[04:08] gogo_: would something like this work: app.use(express.staticProvider(__dirname + '/public')); if my static files (like home.html) are stored in /public dir?
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[04:11] mattrobenolt: Anyone know if dannycoates hangs around here? I have some questions about node-inspector.
[04:13] konobi: mattrobenolt: sometimes... best email or message him on github though
[04:14] mattrobenolt: konobi: Awesome, thanks.
[04:15] mattrobenolt: Anyone else know a lot of shit about the heap snapshots in node-inspector? I'm trying to help someone track down a pretty bad memory leak.
[04:15] mattrobenolt: I'm trying to figure out how to interpret the data that I'm looking at.
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[04:29] konobi: mattrobenolt: you take snapshots every so often, and then you can see the memory delta of JS objects inbetween
[04:29] konobi: same as you can in chrome
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[04:31] mattrobenolt: Right. But what's worrying me is seeing lots of stuff in a generic (closure). And if I traverse in, it's just recursively showing me the same info.
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[04:36] ayosec: Hi there. What is the best way to parse a time string with node? 
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[04:38] wankdanker_: new Date(strDate); ?
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[04:39] ayosec: wankdanker_: it works. Thanks!
[04:40] wankdanker_: ayosec: you're welcome! :)
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[04:51] konobi: mattrobenolt: sounds like a circular reference to me
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[04:52] mattrobenolt: konobi: I'm going to play with this for a while. There appears to be a slow leak, then after an hour or so, it randomly jumps up like, 100MB or more. The process will eat up 400MB over night.
[04:52] mattrobenolt: So I'm going to run this all night with it profiling every 10 minutes to see what's going on.
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[05:00] Advant: I'm confused on what is best/common practice.  Should nodejs be serving html content, or better to use apache to serve content and use nodejs as an application server layer?
[05:01] Aria: Both are common, neither is best. Apache is a huge beast in a lot of ways.
[05:01] Aria: Node can also do things that Apache can't, and can't do a lot of them if it's stuck being proxied to.
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[05:06] Advant: Aria: what would be a good google phrase and just using apache?  One example I saw showed content being read from disk each time it was served
[05:06] Advant: I mean just using node
[05:07] AAA_awright: Or just use Nginx
[05:07] Aria: Not sure. Apache's just ... heavy. A full thread for every request. Bad enough for short requests. It's quite a lot of overhead for a long-running mostly-idle one.
[05:07] AAA_awright: Nginx 1.1 can serve static content, proxy Socket.io streams, and load-balance between a Node.js process per core
[05:07] AAA_awright: And it's evented like Node.js is, bonus
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[05:08] Aria: Yeah. nginx is a better front server than apache.
[05:08] Aria: I myself run node exposed when I can.
[05:09] Advant: I misspoke, I meant examples of serving content with only nodejs
[05:09] Advant: I want to setup a simple app with knockoutjs and have node serve my content for me
[05:09] Aria: Oh. You can use static file middleware.
[05:10] Advant: Aria: would express be an example of that?
[05:11] Aria: No. Express is routing and template rendering.
[05:11] Aria: But connect includes such middleware.
[05:11] Aria: (and connect is the lower layers of express)
[05:11] Advant: Ah ok
[05:12] Advant: thanks!
[05:12] Aria: Sure thing!
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[05:38] draco2003: anyone have a second to write a quick sample client for grocket? https://github.com/disqus/grockets doesn't have much in the way of documentation yet :)
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[06:00] KevinT: anyone have experience with soupselect?
[06:00] KevinT: https://github.com/harryf/node-soupselect
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[06:06] DTrejo_: 
ACTION loves dubstep http://open.spotify.com/user/dtrejo/playlist/48Gh8PPuN4fDNAXs9r2Aej

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[06:36] blueadept: where is tj
[06:37] blueadept: tj, login your iphone 
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[06:40] blueadept: i just saw ryah give an endorsement of the pryto technique 
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[06:41] blueadept: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAc0vQCC6UQ
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[06:43] blueadept: pryoto*
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[06:45] torsd: watching this
[06:45] torsd: thanks for sharing
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[06:52] teadict: ryah: saw that skype interview.. where were you when you came to South America? did you visit Argentina?
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[06:55] SubStack: http://substack.net/images/dnode-slides/fandango/fandango.png
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[07:02] ryah: teadict: yep
[07:02] ryah: please test http://nodejs.org/dist/v0.6.0/node-v0.6.0rc2.tar.gz
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[07:06] blueadept: ryah: best interview so far
[07:06] blueadept: ryah: excellent explanation of the pre-history 
[07:07] blueadept: was really caught up in the ruby back and forth
[07:07] blueadept: zed added so much to the server
[07:08] blueadept: but the ruby stack is so conflated 
[07:11] incon: curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sh, You need node 0.4 || 0.5 to run this program, node --version reports: v0.6.0, Please upgrade node before continuing.
[07:12] ryanrolds: heh
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[07:14] DTrejo_: node `make` output: https://gist.github.com/1341223
[07:15] DTrejo_: for rc2
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[07:15] DTrejo_: had an error at the end
[07:15] DTrejo_: didn't finish
[07:16] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: can you try `JOBS=1 make -j 1`?
[07:16] DTrejo_: oh hmm
[07:16] DTrejo_: just redid it with that
[07:16] DTrejo_: will paste output
[07:17] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: added another file
[07:17] DTrejo_: see the gist
[07:18] DTrejo_: (should show at top)
[07:18] DTrejo_: I think it finished
[07:18] DTrejo_: got this though /usr/include/AvailabilityMacros.h:108:14: warning: #warning Building for Intel with Mac OS X Deployment Target < 10.4 is invalid.
[07:18] DTrejo_: wait that doesn't matter
[07:18] DTrejo_: nvm
[07:19] bnoordhuis: DTrejo: Parallel Jobs: 4 <- it's still doing a parallel build
[07:19] DTrejo_: well, make all by itself works
[07:19] DTrejo_: parallel had an issue
[07:19] DTrejo_: o well
[07:19] bnoordhuis: there's a race in the interaction between waf and make that makes it fail sometimes :/
[07:19] DTrejo_: oh let me make test
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[07:20] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: can you do `./configure --debug && make && make test-all`?
[07:20] DTrejo_: ok
[07:20] bnoordhuis: thanks
[07:21] DTrejo_: :)
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[07:28] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: make test-all wouldn't start, separating it from the && and running it alone to see what happens
[07:29] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: having  same issue again, waf enters dir, then just chills and outputs nothing
[07:30] AvianFlu: bnoordhuis, ryah, got one that failed: https://gist.github.com/1341235
[07:30] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: can you run it like this: `JOBS=1 make -j 1`? that forces waf and make to do a linear build
[07:31] DTrejo_: k
[07:31] bnoordhuis: AvianFlu: haven't seen that one before...
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[07:35] AvianFlu: the tests are still running, too, and I've got a couple more.  I'll gist them in a minute
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[07:37] bnoordhuis: AvianFlu: thanks
[07:40] DTrejo_: hanging issue despite -j 1 and JOBS=1
[07:40] DTrejo_: wahh
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[07:40] DTrejo_: oh wait
[07:41] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: https://gist.github.com/1341249
[07:42] DTrejo_: maybe I should stop
[07:43] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: wow
[07:43] bnoordhuis: and also, wtf?
[07:43] DTrejo_: my setup is probably wierd
[07:43] DTrejo_: output by this: ./configure --debug >> out.log && JOBS=1 make -j 1 >> out.log && make test-all >> out.log
[07:43] bnoordhuis: any chance you can hook up a test to gdb and see where it crashes?
[07:43] DTrejo_: hmm
[07:44] DTrejo_: haven't really used gdb much
[07:44] bnoordhuis: gdb --args out/Debug/node test/simple/test-assert.js
[07:44] bnoordhuis: then `r` for run, `bt` for the backtrace
[07:44] DTrejo_: just ran that commant
[07:44] DTrejo_: command
[07:44] DTrejo_: should I press r until something breaks?
[07:45] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: no, it's just to start node
[07:45] bnoordhuis: `bt` is for when it crashed
[07:45] DTrejo_: https://gist.github.com/1341249
[07:46] DTrejo_: just posted the bt
[07:46] DTrejo_: https://gist.github.com/1341249
[07:46] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: thanks
[07:46] DTrejo_: :)
[07:46] DTrejo_: happy to be helpful
[07:47] bnoordhuis: weird bug
[07:47] bnoordhuis: indutny is testing on 10.6.8 as well and he doesn't have that issue
[07:48] DTrejo_: hmm
[07:48] DTrejo_: i use mac ports
[07:48] DTrejo_: shouldnt affect anything tho?
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[07:48] incon: does make test-all make a log?
[07:49] ryah: me too
[07:49] bnoordhuis: incon: no, but you can run it like this `make test-all 2>&1 | tee test.log`
[07:50] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: what does `gcc -v` look like for you?
[07:51] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: https://gist.github.com/1341249
[07:52] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: thanks, doesn't look like anything out of the ordinary
[07:52] ryah: DTrejo_: did you do a distclean before this?
[07:52] DTrejo_: I did a make clean
[07:52] ryah: DTrejo_: can you do a "make distclean" ?
[07:53] DTrejo_: will do
[07:53] ryah: thx
[07:56] DTrejo_: i wish github had drag and drop source code uploading
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[08:06] ryah: DTrejo_: any updates?
[08:06] DTrejo_: still running
[08:06] DTrejo_: configure worked :)
[08:06] DTrejo_: building now
[08:06] DTrejo_: 60/70
[08:07] DTrejo_: 70/70
[08:07] DTrejo_: oh done
[08:07] DTrejo_: now for tests
[08:07] bnoordhuis: 
ACTION crosses fingers

[08:07] DTrejo_: oh no!
[08:07] DTrejo_: crashes
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[08:09] lzskiss: yo
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[08:09] ryah: DTrejo_: !
[08:10] DTrejo_: pasting logs
[08:10] DTrejo_: https://gist.github.com/1341263
[08:11] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: seems like same prblem as last time; shall I try gdb again?
[08:11] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: yes please
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[08:12] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: updated https://gist.github.com/1341263
[08:12] DTrejo_: look similar
[08:12] DTrejo_: the question marks especially ;)
[08:13] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: yeah
[08:13] bnoordhuis: what does `print logger_` say?
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[08:14] DTrejo_: bnCannot access memory at address 0x988
[08:14] DTrejo_: bnoordhuis: Cannot access memory at address 0x988
[08:14] bnoordhuis: DTrejo_: odd...
[08:15] bnoordhuis: where is mraleph when you need him?
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[08:16] DTrejo_: is it worth waiting for more people to run into this?
[08:16] DTrejo_: might just go away
[08:17] bnoordhuis: i suppose so
[08:17] bnoordhuis: bugs like that make me nervous though
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[08:17] DTrejo_: I suppose there's no hint as to what it is, or not much?
[08:18] bnoordhuis: i suspect something clobbers the Isolate object, or its logger_ member
[08:18] bnoordhuis: but as to the how or why, no clue
[08:18] DTrejo_: mm
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[08:21] borlo: can someone help me out here... i'm trying to "browserify" a node.js irc client (npm install irc)... i got fairly close i think, but it still requires "net" and i can't figure out how to get it to include all of it
[08:21] DTrejo_: borlo: can't get around net w/out a server-side component
[08:21] DTrejo_: it's core
[08:21] TheJH: borlo, you can't do that without a nodejs server that takes care of doing the actual irc connection
[08:22] borlo: hmm
[08:22] TheJH: borlo, you could create a fake net module that redirects stuff over a socket.io connection or so
[08:22] borlo: no way to remove the middle man, eh?  can't "browserify" the "irc" module?
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[08:23] borlo: yeah i guess i was hoping someone would've already done that by now :)
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[08:23] DTrejo_: borlo: you could be the first
[08:23] DTrejo_: could be simple
[08:23] DTrejo_: net-client
[08:23] DTrejo_: net-server
[08:24] TheJH: but that'd require much trust into the clients
[08:24] TheJH: such a generic module
[08:24] DTrejo_: trueee
[08:24] TheJH: after all, it's basically an open proxy
[08:25] AAA_awright: browserify?
[08:25] TheJH: that allows you to do even more than just web
[08:25] TheJH: AAA_awright, browserified net module with a helper in node
[08:27] AAA_awright: borlo: Just have martynsmith/node-irc on the server side, send the parsed messages with socket.io
[08:27] DTrejo_: TheJH: what if they had to auth first...then you can trust a bit more, a tiny bit more
[08:27] AAA_awright: Which IRC module are you using exactly?
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[08:28] TheJH: DTrejo, mhm, yes
[08:28] TheJH: DTrejo, and you could also restrict stuff on the server side...
[08:28] TheJH: mhmmmh...
[08:28] borlo: aaa_awright, yes that's what i'm doing
[08:29] borlo: but it would be nice to remove the middle man
[08:29] AAA_awright: It's hard to do. You end up having to parse the IRC packets and by that point you may as well do it all server side
[08:29] borlo: and have the client connect directly to the irc server
[08:29] borlo: half the overhead
[08:29] AAA_awright: borlo: Well then what do you need Node.js for? :p Flash can do that, I think
[08:29] AAA_awright: Which strikes me as dangerous
[08:29] TheJH: AAA_awright, I'm sure it can't
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[08:30] AAA_awright: I'm pretty sure it can at least handle UDP packets
[08:30] TheJH: AAA_awright, but not violating the SOP
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[08:31] AAA_awright: TheJH: I think it's going to look for crossdomain.xml
[08:31] AAA_awright: So yeah, no arbritary connections
[08:31] alessioalex: hey peeps
[08:32] TheJH: AAA_awright, and no irc server would offer one
[08:32] AAA_awright: I think there's Java applets that can too
[08:33] AAA_awright: Somehow they can connect directly to IRC servers, last I checked
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[08:33] xerox: what's the best redis node lib :x
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[08:34] TheJH: AAA_awright, yes, they can, but only to different ports on the same host
[08:34] bnoordhuis: xerox: the one you write yourself, of course!
[08:34] xerox: haha
[08:35] KiNgMaR: :)
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[08:37] ryah: DTrejo_: what if you do a different test
[08:37] ryah: DTrejo_: in gdb
[08:37] ryah: DTrejo_: do you get the same backtrace?
[08:37] DTrejo_: oh, hmm
[08:37] indutny: DTrejo_: what version of XCode are you using?
[08:38] ryah: DTrejo_: what about the release builds?
[08:38] DTrejo_: 3.2.6
[08:38] DTrejo_: rc2
[08:38] ryah: DTrejo_: do the release builds work?
[08:38] ryah: out/Release/node ?
[08:38] DTrejo_: 1 sec
[08:39] DTrejo_: seems to work
[08:39] ryah: hm
[08:39] ryah: ./out/Release/node test/simple/test-assert.js
[08:39] indutny: I'm on Version 3.2.6 (1761)
[08:39] ryah: echo $?
[08:40] DTrejo_: indutny: im on exact same one
[08:40] DTrejo_: seg faulted on test-child-process-kill.js inside of simple
[08:40] DTrejo_: and test-assert
[08:41] DTrejo_: almost 5am east coast time. im going to sleep, but will try the next RC and things will probably work I bet
[08:41] DTrejo_: it's that time of night when things are just broken from being tired
[08:41] DTrejo_: maybe
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[08:42] ryah: DTrejo_: ok
[08:42] DTrejo_: cheers and good luck w/ everything!
[08:42] ryah: DTrejo_: night
[08:42] DTrejo_: *errythang
[08:42] DTrejo_: :)
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[08:45] sineltor: ohsnap 0.6.0
[08:45] sineltor: $ nave install latest
[08:45] sineltor: tar: Unrecognized archive format
[08:45] sineltor: tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.
[08:45] sineltor: Couldn't fetch 0.6.0
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[08:50] xerox: 0.6.0 !!
[08:53] xerox: …where? :)
[08:53] bnoordhuis: xerox: soon!
[08:54] xerox: bnoordhuis: which version should I pull
[08:54] CIA-109: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r865b077 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Bump version to v0.6.0 - http://git.io/gFF1rA
[08:54] xerox: :o
[08:54] bnoordhuis: ^ that one :)
[08:54] xerox: ryah++
[08:54] catb0t: ryah now has 1 beer
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[08:56] CIA-109: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r9e00b7d 10/ src/node_version.h : Now working on v0.6.1 - http://git.io/nupoLw
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[08:57] sineltor: ryah: woo! Grats! :D
[08:58] incon: https://gist.github.com/1341291
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[09:00] xerox: gotta wait a lil more for being able to git checkout v0.6.0 I guess
[09:00] xerox: this is exciting
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[09:04] Evanlec: hmm, tried to compile git version of npm, and got compile error saying "Error: npm doesn't work with node v0.6.0" , is there anything I can about that?
[09:04] xerox: oh.
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[09:09] anddam: hello
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[09:15] ryah: :D
[09:15] ryah: whew
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[09:16] deoxxombie: * #1999 fs: make mkdir() default to 0777 permissions
[09:16] deoxxombie: what in the hell
[09:16] deoxxombie: is that for real?
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[09:17] Evanlec: ryah: any idea on when npm will support 0.6.0 ?
[09:17] bnoordhuis: deoxxombie: i think you need to `man umask`
[09:18] deoxxombie: oh, i see now
[09:18] deoxxombie: i just had a look at the ticket
[09:18] deoxxombie: scared me for a minute there
[09:19] ryah: Evanlec: i think isaacs has an oversight in the version checking
[09:19] konobi: bnoordhuis: looks like --vars and --v8-options is boked
[09:19] ryah: it does work with v0.6.0
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[09:20] bnoordhuis: well, --vars doesn't output anything but --v8-options should work
[09:20] Evanlec: ryah: oh, well when I just tried to compile npm it said "Error: npm is not compatible with node v0.6.0"
[09:20] bnoordhuis: konobi: what output are you seeing?
[09:20] konobi: it does... but gives a warning at the top
[09:21] konobi: or at least a v8 shell usage thingy
[09:21] ryah: Evanlec: as soon as isaacs wakes up
[09:21] Evanlec: ryah: ok ;)
[09:21] bnoordhuis: right, those google rascals
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[09:21] bnoordhuis: not much node can do about that, it comes straight from v8
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[09:21] bnoordhuis: i'll discuss it with the v8 guys next week
[09:21] konobi: boo-urns
[09:22] konobi: --vars used to output something though
[09:22] bnoordhuis: removing --vars output was a conscious decision, i think
[09:22] konobi: what what!?
[09:22] bnoordhuis: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/1536
[09:23] bnoordhuis: let's revisit that for 0.6.1
[09:24] ryah: why do you need --vars?
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[09:25] konobi: ryah: not nessecarily that feature, just need to work around it now
[09:27] konobi: ryah: also... btw... know of a hackish way to bypass require.paths from within node?
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[09:27] mmalecki: konobi: monkey-patch require
[09:27] konobi: (including builtin libraries)
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[09:30] sineltor: you can fix npm by changing its package.json file
[09:30] sineltor: $ gvim /usr/local/lib/node_modules/npm/package.json 
[09:30] bnoordhuis: i'll just leave this here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3199336
[09:30] sineltor: …  "engines" : { "node" : "0.4 || 0.5 || 0.6", "npm" : "1" }
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[09:31] xerox: what's the npm situation with 0.6?
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[09:32] sineltor: npm checks that nodejs is 0.4 or 0.5, which is obviously wrong
[09:33] sineltor: isaacs is probably asleep - but for now you can hack it by editing npm/package.json and adding || 0.6
[09:33] konobi: hhhmmm... may also need to overload the require cache too
[09:33] xerox: sineltor: thanks
[09:33] xerox: I'm still trying to get 0.6.0 from github tho
[09:34] xerox: this procedure does not work exchanging 0.6.0 for 0.4.12 https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installation
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[09:35] xerox: oh now it does
[09:35] xerox: hurray
[09:35] incon: Parallels Ubuntu 11.10 node v0.6.0 test output https://gist.github.com/545436e21e1414d195dd
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[09:36] bnoordhuis: incon: thanks, that's roughly expected (except for simple/test-net-pipe-connect-errors, that one shouldn't fail)
[09:36] bnoordhuis: the other failing tests are timing dependent so if your system is loaded, they fail
[09:36] bnoordhuis: and `make test-all` puts quite a lot of stress on a system
[09:37] Evanlec: sineltor: was havng sameissue, thanks
[09:37] sineltor: np guys.
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[09:39] robbiet480: any suggestions as to how i could setup a wildcard subdomain system that will render a page
[09:39] robbiet480: i.e. robbiet480.myapp.com is like going to /room/robbiet480
[09:41] Evanlec: where is the "official" or not-so-official list of node modules?
[09:41] Evanlec: (i.e. those installable via npm)
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[09:44] stephank: Evanlec: search.npmjs.org (data is live, I believe)
[09:45] stephank: robbiet480: Once you've set up DNS, I think you just route using the Host header a client sends.
[09:45] robbiet480: hmmm
[09:45] robbiet480: ok
[09:46] devaholic: http://tomblobaum.tumblr.com/post/12362916187/creating-a-blog-with-nodequery
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[09:46] robbiet480: devaholic: what about it
[09:47] devaholic: im adding to that blog post right now
[09:47] devaholic: just thought i'd share, if youre interested!
[09:47] robbiet480: devaholic: you are adding something about subdomains?
[09:47] devaholic: what
[09:47] robbiet480: nevermind
[09:47] devaholic: no, sorry i didnt see what you guys were talking about lol
[09:47] robbiet480: lol
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[09:47] devaholic: oh, i know how to answer your question though
[09:47] devaholic: you need to look at req.url in an express middleware
[09:48] devaholic: one second, i'll gist some code for you
[09:48] robbiet480: yay!
[09:49] alessioalex: devaholic nice stuff with nodeQuery
[09:49] chjj: oh, its finally out?
[09:49] chjj: !
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[09:50] konobi: robbiet480: just examine the Host header and you're sorted... unless you want a frontend proxy to do some rewriting for you
[09:50] devaholic: robbiet480: https://gist.github.com/996912f94ddf97432613
[09:51] robbiet480: konobi: ok thanks
[09:51] sineltor: is anyone else having problems publishing to npm?
[09:51] devaholic: you need to look at req.headers.host
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[09:51] devaholic: check the gist
[09:52] robbiet480: yeah
[09:52] robbiet480: i sees it
[09:52] robbiet480: just setting up /etc/hosts quick to see if it works
[09:52] robbiet480: :P
[09:52] devaholic: k, back to blogging
[09:52] robbiet480: thanks devaholic!
[09:52] konobi: you can always just curl it with a -H 'Host: foo'
[09:53] devaholic: im blogging in real-time about creating a real-time blog while i'm writing the real-time blog
[09:53] devaholic: waaa
[09:53] devaholic: robbiet480: np
[09:54] Dulak: you should totally blog that
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[09:56] xerox: sineltor: how do you edit npm/package.json ?
[09:57] sineltor: sineltor: $ gvim /usr/local/lib/node_modules/npm/package.json
[09:57] sineltor: sineltor: …  "engines" : { "node" : "0.4 || 0.5 || 0.6", "npm" : "1" }
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[09:58] chjj: node -v "v0.6.0"
[09:58] chjj: nice to see
[10:00] xerox: sineltor  what if you have no npm installed
[10:01] sineltor: um, I dunno - does the installer not work with 0.6 ?
[10:01] xerox: no
[10:01] xerox: it gives the error that you mentioned
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[10:02] sineltor: no idea I'm afraid. you'll probably need to hack the install scripts to make it work
[10:03] robbiet480: what does RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded mean?
[10:04] bnoordhuis: robbiet480: probably too deep or infinite recursion
[10:04] robbiet480: hmm
[10:04] robbiet480: ok
[10:05] robbiet480: bnoordhuis: so I'm getting that just when trying to load assets
[10:05] robbiet480: i.e. css, js
[10:05] robbiet480: the actual page loads fine
[10:05] robbiet480: any ideas?
[10:05] bnoordhuis: not really, i'm afraid
[10:05] indutny: post for russians: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/nodejs/131944/
[10:05] robbiet480: otay
[10:05] robbiet480: thanks anyway
[10:05] xerox: mumble.
[10:05] bnoordhuis: maybe hook it up to the debugger
[10:05] Industrial: robbiet480: depends on your setup, no?
[10:06] robbiet480: Industrial: I'm still somewhat of a node noobie
[10:06] robbiet480: so can you explain what you mean
[10:06] Industrial: robbiet480: the packages you are using, i.e. express or not, other packages/libraries
[10:06] robbiet480: ah
[10:06] robbiet480: well I'm using express, that error is being thrown by express
[10:06] robbiet480: and also using jade
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[10:09] josephg: have express and jade been updated for 0.6?
[10:09] josephg: has socket.io?
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[10:14] shedinja: im having the same problem as xerox. npm won't install on v0.6.0
[10:14] xerox: I'm compiling 0.4.12 :(
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[10:15] josephg: Sadface. isaacs will probably fix it when he gets up
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[10:18] TheJH: call isaacs :D
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[10:23] incon: I twitted him about 7 hours ago about the problem
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[10:33] TheJH: nobody made a pull request yet? :D
[10:34] xerox: doit!
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[10:55] indutny: ha
[10:55] indutny: oh
[10:55] indutny: sorry, wrong window
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[11:03] paul_uk: hey all, just installed mongodb and it shows up as extraneous with npm ls.  Is this the default behaviour ?
[11:05] paul_uk: weird, i removed the node_modules dir and did another install this time with mongodb at the top of the tree in package.json. 
[11:06] paul_uk: extraneous doesn't show up now
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[11:10] konobi: paul_uk: http://joyeur.com/2011/10/26/node-js-mongodb-love-guest-post-from-mongolab/
[11:11] paul_uk: konobi, er thanks but i've got mongodb working in a test environment.  im just rebuilding a server and came up with this issue.
[11:11] konobi: =0P
[11:11] paul_uk: well non issue now
[11:11] konobi: yeah... just some pointers on install there iirc
[11:13] konobi: oh, maybe that's another blog entry i was thinking about =0/
[11:15] paul_uk: konobi, probably
[11:15] konobi: too many blog entries... too little time
[11:15] paul_uk: heh, i know exactly how you feel
[11:17] konobi: and while i do a bunch with node, i'm generally doing systems stuff or bash scripting, or systems automation
[11:17] konobi: ^_^
[11:18] paul_uk: awesome, yeah I know what you mean.  I've come from a sysadmin background, now I've left that and moved onto the development arena so to speak.
[11:20] konobi: ditto
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[11:20] konobi: though all my development these days is systems related <disclaimer>joyent employee</disclaimer>
[11:22] konobi: while software sucks... i have to say... hardware sucks more
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[11:24] chjj: hardware limits software ;)
[11:25] konobi: you can fix software =0)
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[11:47] TheJH: mhm... saying that https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/src/stream_wrap.cc#L292 is superfluous if `args.Length() > 2` is true would be premature optimization, right?
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[11:53] SargoDarya: morning guys
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[11:55] mmalecki: the fuck was that?
[11:58] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: that web irc client doing its weekly reset
[11:59] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: why would a web irc client need a weekly reset? are they running windows servers or what?
[11:59] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: beats me
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[12:00] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: for now I'll just assume they are
[12:01] CIA-109: node: 03Eric Lovett 07master * rfebe5c4 10/ doc/api/zlib.markdown : docs: use markdown for link, not html - http://git.io/t51CYw
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[12:04] TheJH: mmalecki, I think they throw up free version users after one week idle or so
[12:05] TheJH: mmalecki, ah, no, homepage says "Interlude - Offline for planned maintenance, back soon!" :D
[12:05] mmalecki: TheJH: fair enough
[12:06] mmalecki: btw, this irccloud looks like a project one could get done in a day or so
[12:08] mmalecki: http://yfrog.com/obesdjj
[12:08] TheJH: mmalecki, the hard part is probably getting a whatever-line for more users per IP and payment processing :D
[12:09] mmalecki: TheJH: haha, yeah :D
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[12:10] josephg: for IRC?
[12:10] josephg: shouldn't be that hard, right?
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[12:10] TheJH: MooGoo, btw, did you already publish your bot sandbox somewhere? the safe one that uses pure v8 + one log function?
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[12:12] az_ordog_maga: yo
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[12:14] TheJH: mmalecki, mmmmhhh... and it should even be easy to allow users to put custom scripts in there that run either in the browser (with full access to the page) or on the server (with very limited rights)
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[12:14] mmalecki: TheJH: dunno, I haven't tried it yet
[12:15] mmalecki: TheJH: and I will probably write my own clone anyway :D
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[12:15] TheJH: mmalecki, me too, at some point...
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[12:16] mmalecki: TheJH: actually, I have it figured out in my head :D
[12:16] mmalecki: TheJH: redis for storing channel logs
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[12:17] mmalecki: TheJH: couch for users and their databases
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[12:17] mmalecki: TheJH: separate processes for logging and shit
[12:17] mmalecki: emitting stuff via hook.io 
[12:17] TheJH: mmalecki, sounds good
[12:18] mmalecki: TheJH: so, I will just make a repo :D
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[12:19] TheJH: mmalecki, :)
[12:19] mmalecki: TheJH: name?
[12:20] TheJH: mmalecki, good question...
[12:20] TheJH: thinking...
[12:20] TheJH: "webirc" maybe? "nodetalk"?
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[12:21] shedinja: irc web client
[12:22] TheJH: shedinja, spaces are bad
[12:22] mmalecki: TheJH: both are taken :D
[12:22] shedinja: looking forward to it mmalecki, was thinking of doing something like that myself
[12:22] TheJH: mmalecki, "ircweb"? :D
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[12:23] mmalecki: TheJH: ok, ircweb sound good :
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[12:24] shedinja: is it going to be a module or a service like cloudirc?
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[12:24] mmalecki: shedinja: yeah
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[12:25] mmalecki: TheJH: hm, not sure if this name is valid english
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[12:26] TheJH: mmalecki, ircbird? :D
[12:26] mmalecki: I demand Names as a Service.
[12:26] TheJH: has a somewhat twittery association, but whatever
[12:27] mmalecki: TheJH: bind?
[12:27] pransalad: mmalecki: if youre thinking of developing a webirc project, take a look at github.com/prawnsalad/kiwiirc, see if you can add to that project :)
[12:27] TheJH: mmalecki, bird, not bind
[12:27] mmalecki: ah, bird!
[12:27] mmalecki: nice!
[12:27] mmalecki: pransalad: does it store logs, etc.
[12:27] mmalecki: ?
[12:27] garrensmith: anyone having issues installing 0.6.0 using n?
[12:28] pransalad: mmalecki: it has no logging for privacy. it does have a server module to keep the last X messages per channel though, for some context to new clients
[12:28] shedinja: pransalad: does kiwiirc stay connected when you close the browser?
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[12:28] pransalad: shedinja: not at the moment, but that would just be a few lines to impliment
[12:29] pransalad: kiwiirc.com for a live version
[12:29] pransalad: it has server and client plugins, so adapting it is easy enough
[12:29] mmalecki: TheJH: gave you +rw on that
[12:30] TheJH: mmalecki, thanks :)
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[12:32] einaros: what's the most up to date websocket client for node.js?
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[12:32] shedinja: einaros: socket.io
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[12:34] einaros: shedinja: websocket client, not server :)
[12:34] mmalecki: einaros: socket.io-client
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[12:35] einaros: ok, to be more specific, anything other than socket.io* ?
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[12:42] garrensmith: einaros: I thinkyou can use pusherapp as well
[12:43] ruiquelhas: Hi folks, anybody can tell me how to overcome the version issue installing npm with node v0.6.0?
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[12:45] einaros: garrensmith: well the thing is that I'm working to complete the binary support for the various transports in socket.io. to do that I need a better websocket client than we've already used, as the current one only supports the old hixi protocol
[12:45] garrensmith: einaros: not sure really, I just use socket.io :-)
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[12:47] einaros: I wrote, and maintain, the new websocket protocol implementations in socket.io - so as a server it works well
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[12:48] einaros: but we still need a more up-to-date client, for testing purposes as well as actual client support
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[12:51] garrensmith: einaros: I thought socket.io was pretty much the most up to date client
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[12:54] JKarsrud: anyone know when npm might support 0.6? :)
[12:54] mmalecki: JKarsrud: as soon as isaacs wakes up
[12:54] JKarsrud: hah, okay :D
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[12:55] mmalecki: JKarsrud: btw, it already supports it
[12:55] mmalecki: just modify package.json
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[12:57] JKarsrud: would you look at that. Should have thought of that one :)
[12:57] TheJH: ruiquelhas, is npm already installed?
[12:57] TheJH: ruiquelhas, in that case, just edit /usr/local/lib/node_modules/npm/package.json
[12:58] jondot: hi all. is it possible that node is not perfectly suitable for tasks such as managing long running processes? I'm thinking of making a front-end deployment manager (somewhat like CI)
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[12:59] TheJH: jondot, what does "managing long running processes" mean here?
[13:00] jondot: it would mean forking processes, listening on their stdout, streaming it back, detecting when they're done (or failed) and showing all of this via some kind of express/connect front end
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[13:01] jondot: i'd accept the fact if this is not completely natural for node. this would be some kind of offtime project for me.
[13:01] TheJH: jondot, should work
[13:02] TheJH: jondot, I think node is actually relatively well-suited for that
[13:02] ruiquelhas: TheJH, no, i am trying to install it
[13:03] TheJH: ruiquelhas, mhm... clone the git repo, edit the package.json, run "sudo make install"
[13:03] ruiquelhas: thanks
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[13:04] ruiquelhas: i was not able to retrieve the source
[13:04] jondot: TheJH, is there any such existing project doing process management in this way?
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[13:04] TheJH: ruiquelhas, "git clone git://github.com/isaacs/npm.git" doesn't work?
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[13:04] TheJH: jondot, no, but it should be relatively easy, I think
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[13:05] ruiquelhas: TheJH
[13:05] ruiquelhas: TheJH, sorry, i'm cool now, minor problem with git certificate
[13:05] jondot: TheJH, thanks. After looking here: http://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/child_processes.html i'm very optimistic about it.
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[13:13] paul__: is 0.6.0 really ready to use? it's been recommended to me as the solution to upgrade to if i want to use nodequery
[13:14] garrensmith: jondot: here is an example but quite old. https://github.com/garrensmith/buildmachine it creates a child process that runs git clone, then another that runs rspec
[13:14] garrensmith: paul__: its suppose to be stable so should be fine
[13:14] jondot: ah, great!
[13:14] paul__: garrensmith ty
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[13:17] lmatteis: is there a good npm tutorial out there?
[13:17] lmatteis: or reference
[13:18] paul__: npm or node?
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[13:19] garrensmith: lmatteis: man npm
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[13:21] lmatteis: paul__: npm
[13:22] paul__: you could check these out but your best best is probably to man it.. http://dailyjs.com/2011/05/02/node-tutorial-23/ https://github.com/isaacs/npm/wiki
[13:22] paul__: best bet*
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[13:26] lmatteis: the man pages are ok, but not very descriptive. For example: link: "For linking your current working code into  Node's  path,  so that you don't have to reinstall every time you make a change.  Use npm link to do this."
[13:26] paul__: someone on HN says npm doesn't work with 0.6.0 yet.. is this true?
[13:26] TheJH: paul__, you need to change a few characters in its package.json
[13:26] paul__: lmatteis yeah i dunno about link. might want to as isaacs
[13:27] TheJH: paul__, I'm sure that as soon as isaacs gets up, he'll fix it
[13:27] paul__: TheJH tyvm
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[13:28] paul__: deedubs ohai
[13:28] deedubs: paul__: allo
[13:30] deedubs: to use dnode or not to use dnode for cluster communication
[13:30] xerox: cluster as in the new cluster module?
[13:30] deedubs: cluster as in the old cluster package for now
[13:30] deedubs: but eventually yes the new 0.6.x cluster implementation
[13:31] xerox: by the way anybody knows if the npm installer has been made 0.6 compatible yet
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[13:36] TheJH: xerox, do you already have npm installed?
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[13:37] xerox: TheJH: no
[13:37] TheJH: xerox, glone git repo, edit package.json, sudo make install
[13:37] xerox: I install node to ~/.node
[13:37] xerox: will make install do the right thing, like the shell installer does?
[13:38] TheJH: xerox, mhm, no idea
[13:38] xerox: hm.
[13:40] td123: hi, when running make test after configuring and building, I'm getting some errors: http://pastie.org/2815091
[13:40] td123: this is with 0.6.0
[13:43] td123: should I file bugs?
[13:43] td123: does anyone else run into these errors?
[13:43] zomg: Bah, way too easy to write memory leaky JS when it runs for a long time
[13:43] zomg: :D
[13:44] zomg: I fixed it once already but now it's again leaking strings and objects :(
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[13:44] zomg: Why is it leaking those being the question since it isn't leaking any closures which would keep them contained in memory...
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[13:55] alnoor: is there an npm for windows (not cywin) I tried using ryppi, i am trying to intall a package to postgresql
[13:56] alnoor: install
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[14:15] paul__: anyone had problems using nodequery?
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[14:16] paul__: specifically a client side error about TypeError: 'undefined' is not a function (evaluating 'require.modules.path()')
[14:16] paul__: already made a bug about it https://github.com/tblobaum/nodeQuery/issues/1
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[14:58] kai_: Hi, can someone help me with a problem with child_process.exec()?
[15:01] JmZ: anyone ever used irc-js? 
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[15:02] quackquack: It appears that zombie.js is occasionally running my test case multiple times in a row...
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[15:04] kai_: Can someone help me with this Node child_process.exec() problem: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8020914/how-to-exec-in-nodejs-using-the-users-environment
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[15:07] TheJH: JmZ, are you looking for a good IRC library?
[15:08] paul_uk: hey all, anyone using node + mongodb?  I am trying to do an update and I keep on getting Error: Argument passed in must be a single String of 12 bytes or a string of 24.  I'm unsure on how to make the id into what it wants.
[15:12] shedinja: JmZ: I tried using irc-js once but it was buggy so I switched to irc
[15:12] cronopio: paul_uk: can you paste some code? and the new values to update are correct?
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[15:14] paul_uk: cronopio, i presume so.  I'm relatively new to mongo, so knocking out the kinks
[15:15] poincare101: Hello everyone. I'm trying to get upto speed with Node.JS, and I don't quite understand how the echo server (TCP) example works. Where is the actual socket read? 
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[15:16] cronopio: poincare101: .on('data') event is trigger when the client send info over a socket connection
[15:16] poincare101: I see.
[15:16] paul_uk: cronopio, im using mongoskin to connect to mongo.  here is my paste: http://pastie.org/2815471
[15:16] poincare101: cronopio: I don't quite see anything about a .on in the example on the front page of the website.
[15:17] cronopio: poincare101: im not sure what info you follow, but for study porpuse you can test how work .on('data') event
[15:17] poincare101: cronopio: I see.
[15:18] poincare101: cronopio: any docs you know of on that?
[15:18] b_i_d: kai_ : I don't know the answer, so don't give a shit about this. But my first ideas where: 1) open bash or so and send the commands to it. 2) Try out TTY instead of child_process
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[15:19] Lingerance: poincare101: Read the net docs
[15:19] cronopio: paul_uk: I think when you use updateById, the first argument must be a string not an objet
[15:19] poincare101: Lingerance: Thoe don't seem to mention .on('data')
[15:19] Lingerance: They do
[15:19] Lingerance: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.12/api/net.html#event_data_
[15:21] poincare101: Lingerance: ah. thanks.
[15:21] poincare101: What does socket.pipe() do?
[15:21] paul_uk: cronopio, it's the same.  I can update via the mongo client via the cli, but I am having major difficulty via node
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[15:22] Lingerance: It connects the data event of one thing to the .write() of another.
[15:22] cronopio: paul_uk: you call updateById( {'_id': session._id}, i think could be updateById(session._id,functi.....)
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[15:22] b_i_d: poincare101> Pipes data from one socket to another. Like the | in the terminal.
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[15:23] paul_uk: cronopio, doesn't look that way to me, maybe im wrong? https://github.com/guileen/node-mongoskin#inherit-updating
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[15:24] cronopio: paul_uk: there said "updateById(_id, ..., callback)"
[15:25] paul_uk: cronopio, so it is a function ?
[15:25] paul_uk: as via the cli it's as simple as this: db.sessions.update( {'_id': ObjectId('4eb5444d39e153e60b000001')}, {$set: {"status":'unavailable'}} )
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[15:26] mmalecki: wouldn't it be reasonable for removeAllListeners to return all listeners?
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[15:28] lupo7: hello there, I m new to node, I m geting this error when trying to execute a script "Error: execvp(): Permission denied" (I tried sudo too but no luck). Any idea?
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[15:30] TheJH: lupo7, mmmmh, maybe selinux?
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[15:30] lupo7: I m on ubuntu
[15:30] TheJH: lupo7, could you gist what exactly you're doing and the error?
[15:30] TheJH: !@lupo7 mem gist
[15:30] jhbot: lupo7, Gist is kind of a pastebin. Every paste is a git repo. https://gist.github.com/
[15:30] lupo7: sure
[15:31] lupo7: I installed node-crawler module and i m trying to run the example
[15:31] lupo7: It gave me find not found at first
[15:31] lupo7: I made the path in the script absolute
[15:31] lupo7: and now I m getting the error above
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[15:33] lupo7: https://gist.github.com/1341663
[15:33] TheJH: lupo7, can you run this? `node -e 'console.log("It works!")'`
[15:34] lupo7: It prompts "It works" and then after newline Undefined
[15:36] TheJH: lupo7, please do `ls -l` on the deps/jscoverage/jscoverage file
[15:37] TheJH: 
ACTION wants two webcams, some ducttape, a microcontroller that can talk to usb and three motors now

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[15:38] mmalecki: TheJH: you're building a robot :) ?
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[15:38] lupo7: actually it is node_modules/qunit/deps/jscoverage/jscoverage.js the file... I just did -rw-r--r--
[15:38] TheJH: mmalecki, no, I'd like to be able to control this microscope from my pc :D
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[15:38] mmalecki: TheJH: it will be hard with a microcontroller. you'll probably need some ARM to talk to a webcam
[15:38] lupo7: permition problem?
[15:38] mmalecki: nice.
[15:38] TheJH: lupo7, do a `chmod a+x` on it and try again
[15:39] TheJH: mmalecki, well, the webcams can talt to the pc
[15:39] TheJH: mmalecki, microcontroller for the motors
[15:39] TheJH: one per axis
[15:39] TheJH: meh... too many cool ideas :(
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[15:40] lupo7: still no luck
[15:40] mmalecki: TheJH: I was able to handle 8 motors with ATmega 32
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[15:41] TheJH: mmalecki, I heard many good thing about arduinos
[15:41] TheJH: *things
[15:41] mmalecki: TheJH: fuck arduino, http://beagleboard.org/
[15:42] TheJH: mmalecki, what's better about it?
[15:42] TheJH: mmalecki, actually, I could probably just use my parallel port<->usb cable...
[15:43] mmalecki: TheJH: ARM :D
[15:43] lupo7: googling the execvp(): Permission denied brings me a lot of compilation errors when people compile with gcc / g++ none for node.
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[15:43] TheJH: mmalecki, ehm, like, you can run linux on it?
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[15:44] mmalecki: TheJH: like a boss: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard
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[15:45] TheJH: mmalecki, overkill for three motors :D
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[15:46] mmalecki: TheJH: haha, yeah :D
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[15:46] mmalecki: TheJH: arduino should be fine for 3 motors
[15:47] mmalecki: TheJH: also, you can just use some ATmega
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[15:47] mmalecki: without arduino, I mean
[15:48] TheJH: mhm
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[15:51] TheJH: MooGoo, ping
[15:52] MooGoo: pong
[15:52] paul_uk: anyone using node and mongo and can spare 2 mins puting up a paste doing a simple update?  I keep on getting "Error: Argument passed in must be a single String of 12 bytes or a string of 24 hex characters in hex format" and I just can't get over this hurdle.
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[15:54] Lingerance: paul_uk: I use node-mongo-native so anything I paste won't be applicable to you, when you ask that make sure you mention that you're using monoskin (instead of just mongo).
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[15:54] paul_uk: Lingerance, at this point Im not too bothered what I'm using, except that it works lol
[15:54] TheJH: MooGoo, is your jail somewhere on github?
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[15:55] Lingerance: commandsCollection.save(x, function(err, suc) { if (err) { throw err } else {m.say('Okay'); self.addCommand(x) }})
[15:55] MooGoo: you mean the new bot code?
[15:55] TheJH: MooGoo, yes
[15:55] MooGoo: not yet...havent pushed updates in awhile
[15:55] paul_uk: Lingerance, x I presume being json ?
[15:56] Lingerance: It's not json, it's a normal JS object.
[15:56] TheJH: MooGoo, as I think it's the only safe v8 jail implementation, it would be cool
[15:56] paul_uk: Lingerance, ok
[15:56] mmalecki: safe?
[15:56] MooGoo: working on it..
[15:56] mmalecki: .. 1
[15:56] catb0t: 1
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[15:56] mmalecki: .. processs
[15:56] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: processs is not defined
[15:56] mmalecki: .. process
[15:56] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: process is not defined
[15:57] mmalecki: .. new Function('process')()
[15:57] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: process is not defined
[15:57] mmalecki: well, if TheJH couldn't crack it, no chance I will
[15:57] Lingerance: .. Object.keys(globals)
[15:57] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: globals is not defined
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[15:57] Lingerance: .. Object.keys(global)
[15:57] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: global is not defined
[15:57] TheJH: mmalecki, it's a vanilla v8 with the only exception being one function binding
[15:57] mmalecki: .. Object.keys(this)
[15:57] catb0t: [ "print" ]
[15:57] mmalecki: that ^ ?
[15:58] TheJH: mmalecki, yes
[15:58] mmalecki: .. print("I am a safe bot")
[15:58] catb0t: "I am a safe bot"
[15:58] mmalecki: .. Object.keys(print)
[15:58] catb0t: [ ]
[15:59] mmalecki: meh
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[16:00] mmalecki: would definitely like to see the code as well
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[16:03] TheJH: .. print({})
[16:03] catb0t: { }
[16:04] TheJH: .. print({toString:function(){return "foo"}})
[16:04] catb0t: { foo toString:[Function] }
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[16:06] Lingerance: .. x = 'test'
[16:06] catb0t: "test"
[16:06] Lingerance: .. x
[16:06] catb0t: "test"
[16:06] Lingerance: .. this
[16:06] catb0t: [object global]
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[16:06] Lingerance: .. Object.keys(this)
[16:06] catb0t: [ "print", "x" ]
[16:06] Lingerance: Hmm
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[16:08] jeromegn: anybody familiar with Vows? I'm seeing issue when I get to certain level of nested topics (the test just stops, doesn't exit the process and stays there, not running the last bits)
[16:08] mmalecki: .. _print = print
[16:08] catb0t: [Function: print]
[16:08] mmalecki: .. Object.keys(this)
[16:08] catb0t: [ "print", "x", "_print" ]
[16:08] mmalecki: .. print = function() { _print("Do not tell me what to do, human!") }
[16:08] catb0t: [Function]
[16:09] mmalecki: .. print("Hello!")
[16:09] catb0t: "Do not tell me what to do, human!"
[16:09] TheJH: mmalecki: you can reset it by crashing it :D
[16:09] TheJH: .. while(1);
[16:09] catb0t: Timeout Error
[16:10] TheJH: .. print("hello")
[16:10] catb0t: "hello"
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[16:10] mmalecki: .. while = function() {}
[16:10] catb0t: Exception: SyntaxError: Unexpected token =
[16:11] mmalecki: :D
[16:11] Lingerance: .. for(;;);
[16:11] catb0t: Timeout Error
[16:11] Lingerance: Nice, how'd you manage that?
[16:11] alessioalex: Does anybody know why I could get an ObjectID error on Mongoose when trying to push an element into an embedded Array?
[16:11] alessioalex: it seems really fucked up
[16:12] Lingerance: Did you confirm _id is the correct type?
[16:12] mmalecki: .. setTimeout
[16:12] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: setTimeout is not defined
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[16:27] CIA-109: node: 03koichik 07master * r1001cf4 10/ benchmark/static_http_server.js : 
[16:27] CIA-109: node: bench: update static_http_server benchmark to new API
[16:27] CIA-109: node: Fixes #2016. - http://git.io/Bdpe2Q
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[16:28] tanepiper: hmm, anyone else getting this error with npm on windows? TypeError: Object #<EventEmitter> has no method 'getuid'
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[16:30] lupo7: is anyone familiar with these warnings when installing a package with npm? "package.json: bugs['web'] should probably be bugs['url']"
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[16:31] lupo7: https://gist.github.com/1341739
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[16:37] mmalecki: lupo7: yeah, you should talk to module author (report an issue)
[16:37] mmalecki: lupo7: that's nothing big, though
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[16:57] jesusabdullah: lupo7: Yeah, I see them all the time XD
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[17:23] swaj: when using jade template engine, I'm trying to render a br tag that is self closing.  using "br/" does not work.  Does anyone know how to make a self-closing tag in jade?
[17:23] xerox: use html
[17:24] swaj: just pipe it and use html?
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[17:24] MooGoo: hey TheJH 
[17:24] xerox: no I mean
[17:24] xerox: the jade feature to write html directly
[17:24] swaj: right
[17:24] xerox: I don't remember the syntax check the github page
[17:24] MooGoo: TheJH: https://github.com/m00g00/catbot/blob/master/botshell.cc
[17:25] swaj: | blah <br /> or whatever
[17:25] MooGoo: 
ACTION glares angirly at github

[17:25] TheJH: MooGoo, thanks :)
[17:25] MooGoo: plz look over it, I'm quite the noob when it comes to C++
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[17:25] MooGoo: dunno if I left any crazy memory leaks around
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[17:26] TheJH: MooGoo, me too :D
[17:26] MooGoo: also: 
[17:26] MooGoo: https://github.com/m00g00/catbot/blob/master/modules/js.js
[17:26] MooGoo: is the js file that calls botshell
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[17:27] MooGoo: but its pretty straight foward
[17:27] TheJH: MooGoo, put it in a module :P
[17:27] MooGoo: npm install evalbot
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[17:28] MooGoo: im not sure if botshell will run without v8 libs hanging around
[17:28] swaj: bah, chrome's inspect window wasn't show the self-closing... just using "br" renders a valid self-closing tag.  Stupid chrome.
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[17:30] BlueJeansAndRain: I just saw the 0.6.0 release notes. Does anyone know or can point me the right direction, for information on how a listener on a shared port would load balance?
[17:30] BlueJeansAndRain: using the new cluster framework I mean
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[17:31] colin_jack: was wondering if anyone has successfully got npm working with 0.6 on windows?
[17:31] swaj: oo, just noticed node 0.6.0 is out.  I wonder if express 3/connect 2 are ready
[17:31] TheJH: MooGoo, hmm? evalbot is not on npm
[17:32] MooGoo: lol...I was just making shit up
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[17:36] MooGoo: hm
[17:36] MooGoo: .. print.toString()
[17:36] catb0t: "function print() { [native code] }"
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[17:42] swaj: boo, can't install npm with node 0.6.0
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[17:45] netlemur: swaj: if you're not on windows there should be an easy fix. just edit the package.json
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[17:46] lzskiss: im planning to backporting the node.js to the debian lenny anybody wanna using this deb package?
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[17:47] lzskiss: if the answer is yes i will be publish to the git repo
[17:47] SargoDarya: woa nice, 0.6.0 :D
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[17:49] swaj: netlemur: yeah I did that and did a make install, it's working :)
[17:49] eddyb: hi
[17:49] eddyb: what are check_tick and prepare_tick for?
[17:49] netlemur: swaj: cool :)
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[18:05] jgallen23: anybody know of a library that parses and normalizes feeds? (rss/atom)
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[18:06] mape: Anyone gotten 0.6.0 working in debian?
[18:06] tbranyen: 0.6 is out?
[18:06] tbranyen: no wai
[18:08] tbranyen: yay
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[18:09] sorensen: npm y u no work!?
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[18:12] TheJH: sorensen, edit the package.json of npm
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[18:19] guybrush: mape: just installed 0.6.0 on squeeze, everything seems to work just fine
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[18:19] mape: Hmm I'm getting "Could not install the file '/usr/local/include/node/uv.h'"
[18:20] swaj: my 0.6.0 install is working on OSX, as well.
[18:20] mape: Debian 4.1.2-25)
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[18:29] lmatteis: does npm do any compiling? it doesn't right? it just puts modules where it needs and does depenendencies, right?
[18:30] guybrush: lmatteis: it executes the install script if provided in the package.json of the packages you want to install
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[18:31] guybrush: see https://github.com/isaacs/npm/blob/master/doc/cli/scripts.md for further information
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[18:31] dshaw_: npm :(
[18:32] swaj: yay, got 0.6.0 and npm working on my debian squeeze linode
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[18:39] Advant: hmm, guess jumping to node 6 wont help npm any ;)
[18:41] Advant: swaj:  What npm changes you have to make?
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[18:45] guybrush: so everyone runs a private patched npm with 0.6.0? :>
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[18:46] guybrush: Advant: on linux i guess patching the package.json should work
[18:47] Advant: So the only real issue is the version chceking?
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[18:47] guybrush: i think so, maybe there are some reasons isaacs didnt update it - i dont know
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[18:48] guybrush: according to GH-issues it does not work on win
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[18:52] SargoDarya: does it make sense to upgrade to 0.6? I mean, will it break something?
[18:52] TheJH: guybrush, pretty sure he'll do it as soon as he gets in front of his computer
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[18:52] tbranyen: SargoDarya: probably break lots of stuff from 0.4
[18:52] TheJH: SargoDarya, from what version?
[18:52] SargoDarya: previous stable
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[18:53] SargoDarya: so yea, 0.4.12
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[18:53] SargoDarya: I guess
[18:53] SargoDarya: Nah, I'm running 0.4.11 currently
[18:54] guybrush: i think its a good thing to get ready for 0.6.x at least, since all the modules will catch up
[18:55] SargoDarya: Well then, I'm going to try if 0.6 will break my current code.
[18:55] SargoDarya: I'm almost expecting it to break
[18:56] b_i_d: Quick question: Easy way to parse XML in node?
[18:56] guybrush: b_i_d: i use https://github.com/isaacs/sax-js
[18:57] guybrush: also see https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/modules#wiki-parsers-xml
[18:58] mermeladas: I've tried most of them and this one was the most pleasant one https://github.com/astro/node-expat
[18:59] b_i_d: Hm. Event-based parser is an option too. Haven't thought about it yet. Basicly I need to parse an advanced document that is changing pretty much depending on the query I fire to the API.
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[19:03] b_i_d: Damn, why doesn't have trueknowledge.com an JSON API? ;)
[19:03] b_i_d: Thanks for the links. Guess I have to experiment...
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[19:13] deedubs: there needs to be a way to liberate a npm package
[19:13] deedubs: #occupynpm
[19:13] TheJH: deedubs, "liberate"?
[19:13] TheJH: ah, joking, ok
[19:13] deedubs: npm info twitter is broken
[19:13] deedubs: I submitted a pull request to fix it a while ago
[19:13] deedubs: still broken
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[19:23] MooGoo: .. 5
[19:23] catb0t: 5
[19:23] MooGoo: .. _
[19:23] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: _ is not defined
[19:23] MooGoo: .. 5
[19:23] catb0t: 5
[19:23] MooGoo: .. _
[19:23] catb0t: Exception: ReferenceError: _ is not defined
[19:23] MooGoo: hm
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[19:25] MooGoo: .. 5
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[19:25] catb0t: 5
[19:25] MooGoo: .. _
[19:25] catb0t: 5
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[19:25] MooGoo: .. print=function(){return "hai"}
[19:25] catb0t: [Function]
[19:25] MooGoo: .. print('dude')
[19:25] catb0t: "dude"
[19:25] MooGoo: cool
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[19:50] foobird: Hello! This is just a little test.
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[19:51] mermeladas: Linux writes: 17.40 mB/s Windows writes: 33.58 mB/s
[19:51] mermeladas: why
[19:51] lzskiss: cloud9 run with the 0.6?
[19:51] lzskiss: any idea?
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[19:54] benvie: Anyone have luck with native module on windows loading with 0.6? I had a hello world working with 0.5.11 or 12-dev but not now. I see a bunch of changes relating to the error reporting. Wondering if it's something on my end or if it's just broken
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[19:58] SargoDarya: MooGoo: Did you just teached the bot to behave like an interactive shell???
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[20:01] maushu: How is anyone here sandboxing their node.js processes?
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[20:08] MooGoo: SargoDarya: if teach == program then sure
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[20:08] MooGoo: catb0t is not yet smart enough to learn
[20:09] catb0t: enough it works way better, etter than smart
[20:09] MooGoo: ...getting slow
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[20:12] ^robertj: is it possible to specify the address my outgoing connections are bound on?
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[20:23] willwhite: anyone know if it's possible to open a write stream, write to it, and then pipe another read stream into it without closing?
[20:24] willwhite: seems like write() is blocking the pipe() in an odd way.
[20:27] maushu: willwhite, Hmm.
[20:28] maushu: Write to it, wait to flush and then connect the read stream to it?
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[20:30] willwhite: maushu: I currently doing something like this with drain: https://gist.github.com/1341976 
[20:30] willwhite: is that what you mean, or something else?
[20:31] willwhite: with that code, it seems like the initial write always returns `true`
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[20:31] maushu: Yes.
[20:33] willwhite: hm something else must be going on. I'll keep digging. thanks, maushu.
[20:36] swaj: I've noticed that when I switched from the memorystore to connect-redis for the redisstore, the connect csrf token isn't changing on each request like it was before.  Anyone know if I need to do something to fix that?
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[20:37] swaj: or does it only change when it's popped?
[20:41] swaj: nvm, seems the connect software keeps the same CSRF token per session, and I was only seeing it change beofre because I was using the new node 0.6 cluster feature and I was getting passed to a different process on each request :P
[20:41] swaj: and once I hooked in redis, the session store applied accross all processes, and wasn't unique
[20:41] swaj: well at least I know that works :P
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[21:08] DTrejo_: sadly, 0.6.0 still seg faults for me when I try to run the tests
[21:09] DTrejo_: redownloaded & all that
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[21:17] lzskiss: yo
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[21:24] maushu: Huh, isn't 0.6.0 supposed to be more stable?
[21:26] b_i_d: BTW: Anyone an idea when 0.6 may hit Debian testing? Compiling or waiting, that is the question...
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[21:37] paul__: anyone use uki?
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[21:40] paul__: anyone know any alternatives to nodeQuery?
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[21:40] blueadept2: is cluster brand new or was this added just in 0.6?
[21:40] pquerna: that statement is hard to parse
[21:41] blueadept2: er added before*
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[21:41] pquerna: it was present in 0.5.x unstable releases
[21:41] blueadept2: ah ok
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[21:52] paul__: anyone use NowJS?
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[21:59] swaj: anyone know how to do content blocks in jade?  for example, let's say I want a section in my <head> tag where I can register further scripts from another view.  they're called "sections" in asp.net mvc
[22:00] coreb: anyone familiar with require-analyzer? it gives me TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'forEach' at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/require-analyzer/lib/require-analyzer.js:190:14
[22:00] swaj: basically looking for an express/jade equivalent to the yield/content_for in rails
[22:01] TheJH: !npm info require-analyzer
[22:01] jhbot: require-analyzer by Charlie Robbins, version 0.4.0: Determine dependencies for a given node.js file, directory tree, or module in code or on the command line
[22:02] TheJH: !npm owner require-analyzer
[22:02] jhbot: owners: indexzero <charlie.robbins@gmail.com>, marak <marak.squires@gmail.com>, avianflu <charlie@charlieistheman.com>
[22:02] TheJH: coreb, ask in #nodejitsu - they built it
[22:07] mmalecki: coreb: which version?
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[22:09] astropirate: The `Cluster` that comes with node 0.6 is the same as the one by LearnBoost?
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[22:09] astropirate: *module
[22:09] Aria: No.
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[22:09] Aria: Though similar in concept, the node one is lower-level.
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[22:11] astropirate: Aria, thanks! i think i like the learnboost one's interface
[22:12] astropirate: but then again the other one is native <_<
[22:12] astropirate: *built in feature
[22:12] Aria: Yeah, and they do somewhat different things.
[22:13] astropirate: they do?
[22:13] astropirate: they both create child processes to take advantage of multicore systems
[22:14] Aria: Sure. But learnboost's is pluginable, supports all kinds of fancy things.
[22:14] Aria: Node's pretty much just does the master-child thing and not much more.
[22:14] Aria: Minimal vs full-stack.
[22:14] astropirate: ahh
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[22:15] astropirate: Aria, thanks for enlightening me
[22:15] Aria: Sure thing.
[22:15] Aria: I imagine Learnboost's will be refactored to work on top of Node's native stuff.
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[22:15] astropirate: right, i was just thinking that
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[22:24] artur_: isaacs ryah: http://nodejs.org/favicon.ico is broken in FF 9 and Chrome 16 (Mac)
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[22:27] artur1: konobi piscisaureus pquerna: ^^
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[22:53] qwebirc778810: Does anyone know what happened to the net.Server.listenFD function? It looks like it disappeared in about 0.5.8 but I can't find any documentation on where the functionality went or if it was deprecated or what.
[22:55] BlueJeansRain: Nobody home?
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[22:56] JakeSays: hey how stable is the windows port these days?
[22:57] BlueJeansRain: 0.6.0 apparently comes in native windows flavor
[22:57] Aria: Getting there!
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[22:57] Aria: DEfine stable? Low-crash? Yes. Unchanging API? No.
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[22:58] JakeSays: Aria: stable enough to use in production.
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[22:58] JakeSays: i want to use the Canvas module with it
[22:59] TheJH: weeeelll... actually, there's a pretty annoying bug that causes it to randomly crash from time to time
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[22:59] TheJH: it's in libuv if I remember correctly
[22:59] JakeSays: hmm.
[23:00] Aria: You're gonna have to see if it works for your uses, honestly. It's good software. But rapidly developing.
[23:01] JakeSays: i wonder if node-canvas runs
[23:01] paul__: i have an https express server with now.js initialized on it.. sometimes (usually) on the client i get "WebSocket network error: OSStatus Error -9812: valid cert chain, untrusted root" - is there a way i can get now's socket.io to ignore the certs or do i have to buy valid ones?
[23:02] paul__: or disable https..?
[23:02] JakeSays: oh interesting - node.js in iis
[23:03] Aria: Yeah!
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[23:05] JakeSays: well, guess its time to fire up vc++
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[23:07] paul__: er, nevermind
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[23:23] JakeSays: so everything i need to build node.js is in the repo?
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[23:31] blueadept: yep
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[23:32] JakeSays: awesome
[23:33] blueadept: when you do a ./configure it should let you know if you're missing any of the compiler tools
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[23:42] JakeSays: blueadept: i'm on windows so no ./configure
[23:42] blueadept: ah 
[23:42] JakeSays: but so far its building
[23:43] JakeSays: i'm a lot more concerned about building node-canvas than i am node
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[23:46] JakeSays: cool. node built just fine :)
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[23:55] Industrial: might be a dead horse but
[23:56] Industrial: besides being locked in on a server platform with windows for whatever reason (virtual slice hosting?)
[23:56] Industrial: why not install *nix to ru nodejs on?
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