[00:00] CrabDude: shesek: fair amount of experience mucking around in V8's D8 protocol and debugger, etc...
[00:00] enki: AvianFlu: well, yeah, it might either run out of memory or unstuck after a really long time ;)
[00:00] enki: but i'd say it's still broken buffering behavior
[00:00] OneOfOne: enki: you try with 0.5.9?
[00:00] shesek: CrabDude, well, hmm, I'm not sure what's simpler than typing console.log() in the console and not seeing anything
[00:00] AvianFlu: if you don't have 0.5.9 installed, enki, I can test it in a second
[00:00] enki: nope, this is 0.4.12
[00:00] enki: don't have 0.5
[00:01] shesek: CrabDude, maybe its worth mentioning I'm on 0.5.8? any chance it doesn't work there?
[00:01] AvianFlu: doesn't happen in 0.5.9 for m
[00:01] AvianFlu: me
[00:01] CrabDude: shesek: is console.log only failing when inspector is on? what about when --debug is on, but inspector is not?
[00:01] AvianFlu: but I'm 95% sure stdout is blocking in 0.5.9, so that would make a ton of sense
[00:01] CrabDude: shesek: negative, that's what I'm running
[00:02] AvianFlu: oh wait! it's hanging after outputting 1 on 0.5.9
[00:02] AvianFlu: how lulzy
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[00:02] enki: stdio is hard, let's go shopping
[00:02] AvianFlu: lulz
[00:03] shesek: CrabDude, shesek@shesek:/tmp$ echo 'console.log(123456);' > test.js || shesek@shesek:/tmp$ node --debug test.js || debugger listening on port 5858123456
[00:04] Brandon_R: I have a question
[00:05] CrabDude: shesek: well, first, you won't be able to debug that b/c it'll finish running before you have a chance to hit it in inspector
[00:05] Brandon_R: Why do we write bindings in C++ and not C if node.js is written in c
[00:05] shesek: yeah, I know, just wanted to check if console.log() works at all
[00:05] CrabDude: shesek: 2nd, if executing a file with ONLY console.log('XXX') in it doesn't log "XXX", you have bigger problems than inspector
[00:05] CrabDude: ah, ic
[00:06] shesek: but... with debug-brk and continuing from node-inspector it does show up
[00:06] shesek: most be a problem somehow related to my code
[00:06] OneOfOne: Brandon_R: who told you it's written in C?
[00:06] CrabDude: try hitting something like: var i=0; setInterval(function(){debugger; console.log(++i);},1000);
[00:06] CrabDude: see if that logs
[00:06] CrabDude: see if it breaks when you open in inspector
[00:06] OneOfOne: Brandon_R: v8 is written in C++, nodejs is written in C++ as well, take a look at https://github.com/joyent/node/tree/master/src
[00:07] Brandon_R: i thought cc was c extention and cpp was c++'s?
[00:07] sechrist: does node have any kind of object merge in the stdlib?
[00:07] OneOfOne: Brandon_R: no, .cc/.cpp = c++, .c = c
[00:07] CrabDude: sechrist: underscore.extend?
[00:07] Brandon_R: cool
[00:07] Brandon_R: learn something new everyday
[00:08] CrabDude: sechrist: util.inherits
[00:08] sechrist: does it only work with instances of a function or does that matter?
[00:09] OneOfOne: Brandon_R: when in doubt, open the source file and look, can easily tell the difference between c/ c++
[00:09] Brandon_R: will do
[00:09] shesek: CrabDude, I tried something simpler - `console.log(123456);debugger;` in test.js, than `node --debug-brk test.js`, than opening up node-inspector and hitting play so it'll stop on the `debugger` statement. The 123456 does show up in the terminal, but not in node-inspector
[00:10] CrabDude: util.inherits(A, B) === A.prototype = B.__proto__ === A = Object.create(B.__proto__); (i think that's right)
[00:10] shesek: which is also weird, because console.log() didn't show up in the terminal either in my actual code
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[00:13] CrabDude: shesek: with your simple example with "--debug-brk" it didn't show in terminal?
[00:13] CrabDude: either way all are working for me with the log showing in the terminal … :/
[00:13] CrabDude: :-/
[00:14] shesek: no, it does show up in the terminal, but in the node-inspector's console
[00:14] CrabDude: shesek: which?
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[00:15] shesek: which what?
[00:15] CrabDude: "no, it does show up in the terminal, but in the node-inspector's console"
[00:16] CrabDude: you mean "does not show"?
[00:17] shesek: ah, sorry, meant "no, it does show up in the terminal, but //not// in the node-inspector's console"
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[00:17] CrabDude: ahh, ya, same for me
[00:17] CrabDude: shows only in the terminal
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[00:17] CrabDude: don't remember that being the case before
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[00:17] CrabDude: maybe newer node?
[00:18] Brandon_R: anyone here plays with electronics?
[00:18] Brandon_R: like motherboards
[00:18] shesek: maybe... I dunno. but in my "real" code it doesn't show up in the terminal either, I wonder why
[00:18] Brandon_R: i noticed there was node.js screencasts for arduinos 
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[00:21] CrabDude: shesek: odd… even if --debug isn't set and/or inspector isn't on and/or --debug-brk isn't set?
[00:22] CrabDude: cuz it sounds like we're trying to rule out inspector
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[00:23] shesek:  Hmm... lets see
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[00:25] lukstr: CrabDude: is there much to do in the area?
[00:25] shesek: Running `coffee file.coffee` and `coffee --nodejs --debug file.coffee` both display console.log in the terminal
[00:26] CrabDude: lukstr: yes
[00:26] shesek: How can I resume script execution when I use debug-brk without node-inspector?
[00:26] CrabDude: lukstr: are you in the area?
[00:26] lukstr: CrabDude: if I don't have a car and am not close to caltrain?
[00:26] CIA-48: node: 03Ilya Dmitrichenko 07 * r39987cb 10/ doc/api/fs.markdown : docs: improved fs.Stats section in API documentation - http://git.io/Z0JovA
[00:26] lukstr: CrabDude: considering a job in the area
[00:26] CrabDude: shesek: so it's only if you run with -debug-brk?
[00:26] CrabDude: lukstr: ah, yes, there's much to do
[00:27] sechrist: nodeduinos?
[00:27] CrabDude: not so much in the direct vicinity of cupertino
[00:27] sechrist: nodrduinos
[00:27] Brandon_R: lol
[00:27] shesek: CrabDude, Yes, when I run with debug-brk and resume from node-inspector I don't get any console.log() output in the terminal
[00:27] lukstr: CrabDude: yeah I'd be right near cupertino city hall
[00:27] shesek: How can I test it with debug-brk without using node-inspector?
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[00:27] lukstr: CrabDude: so probably worth shipping my car down?
[00:28] CrabDude: shesek: odd. i'm not getting that (when resuming from inspector). try http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.5.9/api/all.html#debugger
[00:28] sechrist: lukstr: you moving here?
[00:28] CrabDude: never used it before
[00:28] CrabDude: lukstr: yes and no
[00:28] CrabDude: cupertino's a touch far from the caltrain
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[00:28] sechrist: yeah
[00:28] CrabDude: but there're buses etc..
[00:28] sechrist: last one is mountain view
[00:28] CrabDude: sechrist: last one?
[00:29] CrabDude: caltrain goes all the way to san jose
[00:29] sechrist: oh right i'm mistaking myself
[00:29] CrabDude: lukstr: but yes, there's tons to do
[00:29] TRUPPP: i got an error message that the module qs is missing. i cant find it on github... =( somebody has a link for me? thanks
[00:29] CrabDude: I lived in denver, dallas, souther california before this
[00:29] CrabDude: and i'm very happy with the amount of things to do
[00:30] CrabDude: TRUPPP: npm install qs?
[00:30] sechrist: dallas 
[00:30] sechrist: hmm
[00:30] sechrist: I lived in houston and I like it a lot more here 
[00:30] sechrist: it snows in dallas, :\
[00:30] TRUPPP: CrabDude i habe windows :(
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[00:30] TRUPPP: *have
[00:30] CrabDude: sechrist: I'm sure anywhere's better than houston
[00:30] SubStack: the bay area is fun on account of all the javascripters
[00:31] sechrist: yarly
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[00:31] sechrist: we have cool meetups in cramped boardrooms with beer
[00:31] SubStack: it's true
[00:31] CrabDude: TRUPPP: you can still grab the tgz from the npm repo: http://registry.npmjs.org/qs/-/qs-0.3.1.tgz
[00:31] chilts: I'm in Wellington (New Zealand) which I think is similar to the SF, but I wish there were more JavaScripters here
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[00:32] CrabDude: TRUPPP: in general try going to http://registry.npmjs.org/XXXXX/ to get the package metadata and go from there....?
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[00:32] SubStack: chilts: have you met dominictarr?
[00:33] CrabDude: sechrist: it snows only 4 hours away from here! =D
[00:33] CrabDude: snowboarding =)
[00:33] chilts: SubStack: no, is he in Wellington or NZ?
[00:33] SubStack: where I used to live would have snow on the ground for 6 or 7 months
[00:33] chilts: it'd be good to chat to him if he is :)
[00:33] sechrist: SubStack: alaska isn't a real place
[00:33] shesek: CrabDude, I do see console.log output in the terminal with node's debugger
[00:33] lukstr: CrabDude: moving
[00:34] lukstr: CrabDude: not remotely close haha
[00:34] CrabDude: shesek: then I'd file a bug with inspector
[00:34] chilts: looks like he's in Melbourne
[00:34] chilts: (from his GitHub profile)
[00:34] SubStack: yeah
[00:34] CrabDude: shesek: honestly though, it'd be hard to say
[00:34] sechrist: SubStack: where you were, did you have the really long days and nights part of the year?
[00:34] SubStack: chilts: he's in australia righ now being a hobo
[00:34] chilts: heh
[00:34] CrabDude: since inspector jsut consumes the D8 protocol that node's V8 puts out
[00:34] SubStack: he stayed in my empty room in oakland for a month
[00:34] CrabDude: so it might not even be an error in node, but possibly even V8
[00:35] CrabDude: shesek: hopefully it's just inspector though. I'd still file an issue and he'll at least know where to look.
[00:35] CrabDude: shesek: I'm out, but good luck
[00:35] chilts: cool, his redis-raw library looks pretty cool :)
[00:35] lukstr: CrabDude: I've only lived in and around Toronto
[00:36] shesek: SubStack, oh, hey. Thanks for all the stuff you're releasing, I find many of them quite useful :-)
[00:36] sechrist: I made mrcolor my wallpaper
[00:36] SubStack: haha
[00:37] SubStack: shesek: oh goodness and just wait until this goes live: http://browserling.com:9088/
[00:37] lukstr: SubStack: also that (mrcolor) is quite nifty
[00:37] shesek: and your logos are quite neat, too :P
[00:37] SubStack: shesek: plus we have a continuous deployment stack in the works that will plug into testling really easily >:D
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[00:40] shesek: oh, wow, it looks awesome
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[00:41] shesek: any chance you'll make it possible to run your stuff on a private server at some point? What I'm working on is quite confidential, I can't run them on a server that can be accessed by 3rd parties
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[00:44] sechrist: encrypted proxies!
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[00:50] shanebo: SubStack, what do you use for deployment?
[00:50] shanebo: is there a capistrano equivalent in node.js
[00:51] sechrist: You can use capistrano with node
[00:51] shanebo: sechrist, without having cap and gemfiles in my node project?
[00:51] sechrist: http://railsbros.de/2011/02/18/deploying_a_node_js_server_with_capistrano_and_cluster.html
[00:51] sechrist: found that by googling, I haven't done it myself
[00:52] sechrist: I use a combination of bash scripts with github
[00:52] sechrist: lol
[00:52] sechrist: if I wasn't using it github it would be post-receive hooks
[00:54] SubStack: shanebo: we already have ssh tunnels in browserling, just need to modify them a little for testling
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[00:55] tjholowaychuk: bash scripts ftw
[00:55] SubStack: shanebo: we don't really use anything to manage deploys and it sucks
[00:55] sechrist: dsh -M -c -g "someclusterhere" "curl https://mydeploymentwebserver | sudo sh"
[00:55] sechrist: boom
[00:55] SubStack: tried to get started with chef at one point but that also sucked
[00:55] sechrist: chef 10 is good
[00:55] sechrist: they finally added environments
[00:56] sechrist: but literally all I used it for was idempotent config files for existing projects
[00:57] sechrist: and I'm trying to move my configs into redis
[00:57] Brandon_R: hi
[00:57] sechrist: for newer ones
[00:57] SubStack: chef doesn't work well for our stack because our services span multiple servers
[00:57] SubStack: and people can be connected to the servers when we push out an update
[00:58] SubStack: and we don't want to kill those connections
[00:58] SubStack: so I'm writing stagecoach using bouncy to make it so that you can do zero-downtime deploys through some routing-table trickery
[00:59] tjholowaychuk: just going to redirect traffic?
[00:59] slickplaid: that sounds fun
[01:00] tjholowaychuk: bouncy looks pretty nice, that's all i wanted out of http-proxy
[01:00] chilts: yeah, I like the idea and will use it on my next project :)
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[01:00] sechrist: SubStack: yep, the software I was using check on had to have a "drain" implemented, once triggered, no new connections would be allowed and when existing ones closed the server restarted
[01:00] sechrist: with the upgrade
[01:01] errordeveloper: hm .. I don't quite get thing - V8 has it's own implementation of websockets
[01:01] errordeveloper: can that be used in node ?
[01:01] illumina: node-browserify and socket.io don't seem to play nice together. in particular, it looks like browserify doesn't have a wrapper for 'crypto'. anyone gotten this to work? google seems lost too.
[01:02] errordeveloper: illumina: hm .. have you tried skock.js intead of socket.io .. ?
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[01:05] SubStack: tjholowaychuk: yes stagecoach will redirect new incomings to the instance you spin up once the tests pass
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[01:05] illumina: errordeveloper: no. haven't come across that. ill look into it...
[01:05] SubStack: and just garbage collect the old instance once all the connections drop off
[01:05] tjholowaychuk: cool
[01:05] tjholowaychuk: we do similar with hudson
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[01:07] WarheadsSE: any meaning to every single test returning "-- CRASHED --" on testing with ARM ?
[01:07] errordeveloper: illumina: yeah, I have have seen a presentation by the author of sock.js, and he said something about some fundamental concepts that it has .. though I can remember what exactly ;(
[01:08] errordeveloper: WarheadsSE: hm .. did you build it yourself?
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[01:09] WarheadsSE: one of our automated builders did for ArchLinux ARM
[01:09] WarheadsSE: we saw that in the build log
[01:09] errordeveloper: WarheadsSE: well, get your debugger ready!
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[01:10] WarheadsSE: meh, wont hurt to try it
[01:10] WarheadsSE: I built 4.11 locally a while back
[01:10] WarheadsSE: this one is via the automated build system
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[01:14] errordeveloper: WarheadsSE: good luck, keep us posted :)
[01:14] WarheadsSE: will do
[01:14] WarheadsSE: finishing up an pacman -syu atm
[01:14] errordeveloper: WarheadsSE: I didn't get to use node on arm yet, but I'm certainly going to very soon!
[01:14] WarheadsSE: then ill pull the package and see what happens
[01:15] WarheadsSE: We'll im doing this on armv5 softfloat kernels
[01:15] WarheadsSE: Pogoplugs & Go Flex Nets
[01:16] WarheadsSE: If this build works, we'll push it on the armv7 hardfloat
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[01:18] silntbob: has anyone read http://teddziuba.com/2011/10/node-js-is-cancer.html
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[01:18] ctide: no
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[01:19] sechrist: it's a hilarious joke post
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[01:20] chilts: heh, no, no-one saw that before, we didn't see a thing (well at least that's how much attention it deserves) :)
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[01:26] illumina: what do you guys recommend for sharing code between the browser and node? I was trying browserify… but it looks like requireJS may be more appropriate.
[01:26] devildue: Eh Ess Eh Ess Eh Ess Eh Ess fight the romulans!
[01:28] sechrist: illumina: in what way?
[01:28] sechrist: 
ACTION uses browserify

[01:28] Aikar: hmm
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[01:29] illumina: well, i don't really like the mashing up of files (makes it harder to debug). And it seems it doesn't fully support node packages (like socket.io)
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[01:30] sechrist: http://funroll-loops.info/ 
[01:30] sechrist: classic
[01:30] illumina: i'm a bit miffed at the current state of affairs for building multi-file browser side javascript projects. coming from other environments, it's amazing that there isn't a simple way to express dependencies 
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[01:30] illumina: or I'm totally missing something
[01:31] tjholowaychuk: i have some thoughts on how to do that "correctly"
[01:31] tjholowaychuk: but nothing complete yet :p
[01:31] sechrist: what you want a package.json for each page and loading only the package the page needs?
[01:31] SubStack: socket.io doesn't work in browserify because it's too clever and already has its own non-browser mode shimming that confuses browserify
[01:31] illumina: no - in particular I'm doing some game development. so I actually have only one HTML page that's a canvas
[01:31] SubStack: if you just write your code the node way then it browserifies fine
[01:32] illumina: but my code (javascript) is complex. I want to break it up into multiple files so multiple people can work together.. express dependencies as objects, etc. (you know the drill)
[01:32] SubStack: just throw your dependencies into a package.json
[01:32] SubStack: let npm figure that out
[01:32] illumina: SubStack: browserify seems to work great, except with socket. which is sort of the point of what I'm doing
[01:33] isaacs: SubStack++
[01:33] illumina: what do you recommend then if it's too clever?
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[01:33] SubStack: I don't recommend anything.
[01:34] illumina: hmm. so no socket, eh?
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[01:34] SubStack: you could just use browserify for the non-socket.io stuff
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[01:35] illumina: so then I need a different dependency solution for the non-socket stuff
[01:35] SubStack: just throw in a <script> tag for socket.io before the browserify <script> tag
[01:35] devildue: Do you have access to http://www.ancestry.com and could look up a person's name? 
[01:36] SubStack: a fix is in the works for socket.io to work with browserify I just have a lot of stuff to do right now
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[01:36] illumina: oh. i didn't realize you contribute to it. cool :-)
[01:37] SubStack: I had a tiny patch in 0.6 to get it to work with browserify but it regressed in 0.7
[01:37] sechrist: a lot of the "ifys" and "lings" are from substack, lol
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[01:37] devildue: Do you have access to http://www.ancestry.com and could look up a person's name? 
[01:38] sechrist: devildue: what's 2+2
[01:38] WarheadsSE: whelp. thats a segfault anything trying to run via v8..
[01:38] devildue: The plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
[01:38] micheil: how can I get the output directory / file from WAF?
[01:38] devildue: turned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
[01:38] SubStack: isaacs: relatedly, after I fix https://github.com/substack/bouncy/issues/5 I'm going to hack up a websocket tester in testling to make sure that all the browsers are using the right transports
[01:38] devildue: The nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
[01:38] devildue: The molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth.  Then some kid got stung... 
[01:38] devildue: it really hurts when it comes from bird shit
[01:38] devildue: You fug ug fagheads.
[01:38] devildue: Wear your baseball hat backwards with an ass on the back and we'll call you asshat
[01:38] devildue: Some of the time I ordinarily don't know.  It all begins with the letter A.  Fork, spoon, knife, it's all at the table.
[01:38] devildue: The mailman comes to each of us in time. 
[01:38] devildue: you fug dug fargnargs
[01:38] devildue: HEP TEP ROG'S MY KICK ASS PHRASE, Boy my bestest friend 
[01:38] devildue: I'm Hep Tep Rogging to the Rep Tep Hogger!
[01:38] devildue: Roogy to the hep tep rog.  HEP TEP ROG!  
[01:38] devildue: Cause hep tep rog's my KICK ASS PHRASE!
[01:38] devildue: I'm thinking about herf herding my NERF NORDS!
[01:38] devildue: I'm hep tep hegging to the hep tep noob nork!  Why don't you all scroob nork!
[01:38] devildue: I've been hep tep rogging since 2006... Say HEP TEP ROG if you want me to go away!
[01:38] devildue: Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... 
[01:38] devildue: Where's Waldo... Where's Osama Bin Laden... there is no difference.
[01:38] isaacs: whose bot is that?
[01:38] sechrist: is this marak's new rap?
[01:38] devildue: Nothing but a bunch of druggie channels go do drugs tomorrow it's not swiped.
[01:38] devildue: The grass is green and I"m not WHITE
[01:38] devildue: Talking about a bee turning into a nest.
[01:38] devildue: Pitted prunes, pitted prune prunes, pitted prunes, pitted prune prunes... take it out of the, almust day of that, take it out of the, alumst day... 
[01:38] isaacs: can you please shut it?
[01:38] devildue: I'm thinking about boody hunk daislies... Hoodin for rhyme rhuck pruck traisy
[01:38] devildue: Fuck daddy dick ass I don't mind, chicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam!
[01:38] devildue: I'm thinking about rubbity jibbits... I'm thinking about rubbity diddle dabby dabby dazzlie!
[01:38] devildue: Wag wag... woadwooze rhymes with road rules.
[01:38] devildue: Rubbity diggy... I'm thinking about my ribbity dib dab raggity ann!
[01:38] chilts: can someone kick it???
[01:38] devildue: Congo Bongo... anadinary fun... Bingo Cingo, Bingo Cingo, with an other cookie cutter, now what do you see, with a really cookie cutters, swingin' adda me!  Bongo Congo will have you flying of your tree!
[01:38] devildue: Rub dub chicka licka luck round!  Rub dub chicka licka laidy daidy!  Rub dub chicka licka luck round!  Rub dub chicka licka laidy daidy!
[01:38] devildue: I'm thinking about rubbity dig dagging my plackity yan!
[01:38] devildue: I'm thinking about rug tugs, I'm thinking about poopy poopy shcrap!  Rug tug dickle, holg tug the meel waal!
[01:38] devildue: Of the expectant quadrilatical theorem, comes a tenth degree arc regrunion.
[01:38] devildue: Farting inside the thimble spool, the next time mom mom comes to sew she'll drool
[01:38] devildue: I'm not thinkin about kardacian bilm horned mooses anymore, I'm thinkin about Plix Plixiplik...
[01:38] devildue: wanted in over seven solar systems for being a thief, he's the quadrant's most wanted man.
[01:38] devildue: Seometimes a schwinn rider comes to play... other days it comes time to drive miss dais'...
[01:39] devildue: kill me I kill you fuckin games that chew up your roots
[01:39] sechrist: siri has gone awol!
[01:39] devildue: I'm here to snork my jecka lecka lains.  I'm modas me, I 'll hit you with a cay-une!
[01:39] devildue: Ring dong ring dog ring dong, ring dog ring dong rink donk.
[01:39] devildue: I'm smacking it up to the electrify beam, smacking it to the galactify beam!  Smackin the penis with the erectify beam!
[01:39] devildue: Ar ewe asterism or aspacurism... boy I'm giving you brain anurisms.
[01:39] devildue: Fuck daddy dickass, he's not online, so many idlers it's wasting my time.
[01:39] devildue: Ring a ding donk, plicky peel pow plowl
[01:39] devildue: A psychologist's galactify beam.  Intergalactic planetary... planetary intergalactic.  Intergalactic Planetary!
[01:39] devildue: Intake time.  God this rghymes, Toy Godz don't play.  I enjoy bacon.
[01:39] devildue: neh noo to the nep tep hotep
[01:39] devildue: I'm not ice creamy!  I feel real steamy!  Shteamy ee boof day I'd say!
[01:39] devildue: The solar assholes bring another man.  Another man from Afghanistan.  Car Trans Plankian
[01:39] devildue: RING DUNG TO THE ring ding dung!  Ring dung to the RING DING DUNK!  RING DUNG TO THE ring ding dunk!  Ring dung to the RING DING DUNG!
[01:39] SubStack: silly robots
[01:39] chilts: isaacs: can you kick it?
[01:39] devildue: You fuck Doug fuck... You fuckin duckin lickin chicken.  FUNK DOUG FUCK!
[01:39] devildue: You're just another one of those rubbity dib dabs.  You're a roody tood black ass.
[01:39] devildue: Chicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam.  Chucka licka luck to the rup tup rog.
[01:39] devildue: I'M THINKIN about RUNG DUNGS!
[01:39] devildue: I'm thinking about the tick... I'm thinking about a chucky-o placker.
[01:39] devildue: Eh Ess Eh Ess Eh Ess Eh Ess fight the romulans!
[01:39] devildue: Herf herd, herf herd, herf herd herf herd nerf nords!
[01:39] devildue: Holes hees rum dum dip, holes knees, knobby knobby knees
[01:39] devildue: A vessel prevails. The dilemma dances.  An incorporate tea cup stumbles next to the contempt man.
[01:39] devildue: When can a fraud recall the frozen cynic?
[01:39] devildue: A sentence suffers behind the sure drill.  A brown vendor dashes.  Not ngrdly brown but black ass brown.
[01:39] devildue: The integrated packet strikes opposite the spit.  A cry mints the scenery.  
[01:39] sechrist: sorry for setting it off, damn
[01:39] devildue: Near the lurking nun shifts an unhelpful blade.  The blade then pierces the nun's heart killing her.  How does the psychologist beam?
[01:39] devildue: The cry stretches!  Whatever key purges!  
[01:39] devildue: An addict profiles the linked automobile behind the diameter.
[01:39] devildue: When will the humble peanut turn without a dip?  Below, an acquaintance decides each disaster.
[01:39] devildue: When can a tag fool the checked mailbox?
[01:39] devildue: Do you have access to http://www.ancestry.com and could look up a person's name? 
[01:39] devildue: The saddening advice parts the vegetarian throughout a designate purple.  The crushed dread gangs the everyday liaison.
[01:39] devildue: When will another groan screen the horrified plastic?
[01:39] devildue: A stress rattles throughout the bat!
[01:39] devildue: The sterling arch starves the domestic opposite of any honest animal.  The appearance decays?
[01:39] devildue: The radical stamps! The daylight ranks the writer throughout the oriental warehouse. 
[01:39] devildue: The frog doses a squad against the staring soul.  The blackmail pants around the cuddly box.
[01:39] devildue: Why can't the unspecified prisoner settle an ambient secretary?  A discontinued gown degrades the squeeze.
[01:39] devildue: 13,5Do you have access to http://www.ancestry.com and could look up a person's name? 
[01:39] devildue: Before the lifetime noses a discarded biography.  The budget sighs below our water! 
[01:39] devildue: The ingenious dominant boxes the passage.  A handbook slashes the traveling cynic.
[01:39] devildue: A fourteen year old scanner assaults the knowledge underneath the longer girl.
[01:39] devildue: Over her pardon mutters the sharp enemy.  Can a lively car cable the severe playground?
[01:39] devildue: The friendship parades in a discipline!  A poem conforms beneath a flower!
[01:39] devildue: The fiddle contents the paranoid.  This orientating collar faints over whatever unpredictable dialect.  The handful advances an alert above the fascist documentary.  The missile smiles!]
[01:40] devildue: 13,5Do you have access to http://www.ancestry.com and could look up a person's name? 
[01:40] devildue: Beneath the engine reverts a sung verdict.  An ingredient approaches its attendant in a tough manner.
[01:40] devildue: A spoof burns the constraint around the numerical concern.
[01:40] devildue: What is a peculiar mainframe?  I don't know.
[01:40] devildue: Birds vats the pet above the internal essence. On top of birds interferes a mutual pant. Turds bowl birds after the thesis. Birds migrate! Turds revolt across birds.
[01:40] devildue: Illegal bows. Why won't drugs decline when they are near illegal?  Drugs mature past a partner. Why do drugs farm the farewell effort? 
[01:40] AAA_awright: Dudes isaacs pquerna ryah
[01:40] devildue: Ban they cry next to the channel. Bans tender a paper spur outside the bigotry. Bans fund the channel opposite a piano. Another vile wife points to my reactionary.
[01:40] devildue: Do you have access to http://www.ancestry.com and could look up a person's name? 
[01:40] devildue: The dubious refund cheats the taste of semen.  Will the wondrous estate punt with a penis? Penis treasures spit. Penis tires spit. Spit trails penis above an eager belt. Spit employs penis next to the noticeable onion.
[01:40] devildue: Ruv div devev dev diviv, duvuv... Ruv duv dev div DIVIV DUVUV!  GO TO TEL AVUV
[01:40] devildue: [HttpException (0x80004005): Validation of viewstate MAC failed. If this application is hosted by a Web Farm or cluster, ensure that <machineKey> configuration specifies the same validationKey and validation algorithm. AutoGenerate cannot be used in a cluster.]
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.ViewStateException.ThrowError(Exception inner, String persistedState, String errorPageMessage, Boolean macValidationError) +106
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.ViewStateException.ThrowMacValidationError(Exception inner, String persistedState) +14
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.ObjectStateFormatter.Deserialize(String inputString) +242
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.ObjectStateFormatter.System.Web.UI.IStateFormatter.Deserialize(String serializedState) +4
[01:40] sechrist: hahahahah
[01:40] devildue: 8,3RUVY DUVIV DUV!
[01:40] illumina: umm. where's the ban bot?
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Util.DeserializeWithAssert(IStateFormatter formatter, String serializedState) +37
[01:40] sechrist: HAHHAHAHA
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.HiddenFieldPageStatePersister.Load() +207
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Page.LoadPageStateFromPersistenceMedium() +105
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Page.LoadAllState() +43
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +6785
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequest(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +242
[01:40] AAA_awright: isaacs pquerna ryah: There's this command called /kick
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequest() +80
[01:40] russfrank: haha!
[01:40] sechrist: wait what
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestWithNoAssert(HttpContext context) +21
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequest(HttpContext context) +49
[01:40] devildue:    ASP.randomparagraph_randomparagraph_aspx.ProcessRequest(HttpContext context) +4
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.CallHandlerExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplication.IExecutionStep.Execute() +181
[01:40] devildue:    System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean& completedSynchronously) +75
[01:40] devildue: We're not thinking about dub norgs... We're thinking about Korg Keyboargs!
[01:40] devildue: I spend money.  I kicked a ball.  That manager opened the door.
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[01:40] devildue: That gardener washed a car.  Those flight attendants picked a peach.  Those bus drivers ride a bus.
[01:40] devildue: I wore a hat.  That photographer drives a car.  I set an alarm clock. 
[01:40] sechrist: it's erroring out
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[01:40] devildue: The numb sheep freezes with the northern servant.  The gutter elaborates?
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[01:40] isaacs: hmmm....
[01:40] sechrist: +b
[01:40] russfrank:  /mode +b!
[01:40] SubStack: o_O
[01:41] Lorentz: You can't ban?
[01:41] sechrist: dialup?
[01:41] sechrist: REALLY?
[01:41] russfrank: hahah
[01:41] isaacs: pasting log files is ok
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[01:41] chilts: that might just be their old system assigning IP addresses, rather than actual dialup :)
[01:41] Lorentz: Usually I do "/kickban username"
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[01:42] chilts: thank goodness for that, thanks isaacs
[01:43] chilts: the quiet has returned
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[01:43] isaacs: Lorentz: thanks for the tip
[01:43] isaacs: 
ACTION is a irc luddite

[01:43] isaacs: i usually just /ignore, and let all the rest of you get annoyed
[01:43] Lorentz: It may or may not work, depending on your IRC client.
[01:44] illumina: SubStack: adding another script tag for socket.io did the trick. simple and obvious. thx
[01:44] chilts: that also sounds like a good idea though :)
[01:44] Aikar: hmm
[01:44] Aikar: these latest perf patches appear to maybe of broke on('drain'
[01:45] Aikar: using master my benchmark runs im trying now that relies on on('drain'
[01:46] Aikar: but doesnt with the tcp patch
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[01:46] Aikar: switch to not use drain, works
[01:46] Aikar: and man.. seeing up to 350k/sec :o
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[01:52] jocafa: *crickets*
[01:52] aaronblohowiak: :D
[01:53] micheil: ryah: is there any documentation at all on how the node-waf is setup?
[01:53] chilts: sad news about Dennis Ritchie
[01:53] ryah: micheil: setup?
[01:53] micheil: yeah.
[01:54] micheil: I want to call methods on the Node class
[01:54] Aikar: https://github.com/aikar/wormhole/blob/benchmark/examples/others/senddata.js
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[01:54] micheil: but I just get this rather stupid error that means nothing...
[01:54] micheil: "TypeError: unbound method get_type() must be called with Nodu instance as first argument (got type instance instead)"
[01:54] micheil: and I'm trying pretty much everything I can think of.
[01:54] Aikar: ryah: why does that work for 0.5.9 but not with the latest performance patches?
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[01:55] ryah: micheil: no docs, sorry
[01:55] Aikar: the receiver only gets a limited # of messages then receives no more
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[01:55] ryah: Aikar: i dont know
[01:56] ryah: Aikar: maybe we broke something
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[01:56] Aikar: ryah: should i file it as a bug? I dunno how to better explain the problem tho lol, specially since im running with that patch that hasnt landed in master yet
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[01:57] ryah: Aikar: is this bnoordhuis's patch?
[01:57] Aikar: yes
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[01:57] ryah: there are known prolems with that patch
[01:57] Aikar: :|
[01:57] ryah: which is why it's not landed yet
[01:57] Aikar: i thought he said it came from 0.4.x 
[01:58] ryah: well - he's redoing an optimization that was in the legacy code
[01:58] Aikar: ok, but it is expected to land before .6 right? cause that patch solved my performance problems
[01:58] bnoordhuis: yes
[01:58] ryah: yes
[01:58] Aikar: ok good
[01:58] bnoordhuis: beat you :)
[01:58] htoothrot: Aikar, there's a typo in the readme, _error__ instead of __error__ in the special channels section
[01:58] Aikar: htoothrot: thanks, ill fix that now
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[01:59] Aikar: err, i just realized i commited a .patch file... fail lol
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[01:59] micheil: ryah: all I'm actually trying to get is the path of "build/%type%/%file%"
[02:00] micheil: s/type/target/
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[02:01] Aikar: fixed
[02:02] micheil: ryah: I need this as to be able to move / copy  that .node file so that the javascript files can access it
[02:02] micheil: (all this because I wanted to run the socket.io parser benchmarks >_>)
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[02:03] russfrank: elliottcable: were you working on a template thing for v8? did you end up getting anything working
[02:05] Aikar: bnoordhuis: id be willing to bet that 'lag' problem i had with stdout deals with the problems of that patch then. i only had the lag when throughput was really high. (300k+)
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[02:05] micheil: does anyone know how to get a C++ modules compiled .node file for use within that module?
[02:05] micheil: node-waf sticks it into a build/$TARGET/ folder
[02:06] micheil: that appears to be completely and utterly unretrievable by the waf scripts 
[02:06] Aikar: micheil: i always moved it as part of my makefile
[02:06] micheil: how do you know where that is?
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[02:06] Aikar: the dest was usually pretty consistent?
[02:07] micheil: not really.
[02:07] Aikar: i thought node defaulted to putting to the current directory instead now though
[02:07] micheil: nope.
[02:07] micheil: theoretically the Node class in node-waf must know where it is
[02:07] micheil: but it's literally impossible to call any methods of that Node class
[02:09] Aikar: bnoordhuis: well while your trying to fix the bugs in that patch, if you test against this version of my benchmark its currently broken with your patch so its something to fix: https://github.com/aikar/wormhole/blob/benchmark/examples/benchmark_recv.js
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[02:10] bnoordhuis: Aikar: that patch wasn't really a patch, just a quick check
[02:11] Aikar: oh lol
[02:12] Aikar: and confirmed the lag deals with it, with latest master (with todays crankshaft opts) and that benchmark, im hitting 330k/sec and the output is smooth
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[02:20] Aikar: interesting, am i not using drain correctly? on 0.4.12 drain is fired once, and then a callback is fired to write more data, but drain never fires then
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[02:23] silntbob: I am unclear about event loops can someone fill me in
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[02:26] Aikar: ok got drain working
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[02:28] Aikar: ok so my findings indicate my benchmark sending code was written badly which impacts performance, but bnoordhuis's patch is improving upon that situation and recovering that loss of performance.
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[02:33] micheil: ffffuuu.. finally got node overload installed, only to find out that vbench doesn't work on 0.5.X which is the build of node I need to run it on.
[02:35] tjholowaychuk: haha
[02:35] tjholowaychuk: yeah i havent updated anything to 0.5.x yet
[02:36] Aria: Yeah. It's just becoming time to do so.
[02:36] tjholowaychuk: it uses node-canvas so all the buffer stuff
[02:36] tjholowaychuk: and module stuff
[02:36] tjholowaychuk: needs changing i guess
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[03:04] marcello3d: what kind of flush does the new zlib library use?
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[03:05] marcello3d: does it support sync flush?
[03:05] tbranyen: chrisdickinson: any idea if new zlib stuff will be helpful for git?
[03:06] marcello3d: hmm. looks like there's an explicit flush command
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[03:07] CIA-48: node: 03Brian White 07 * rf243ca1 10/ doc/api/fs.markdown : docs: mention util instead of sys - http://git.io/YNIFDg
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[03:11] rektide: is there a way to compile with python 2.7? this debian system has 2.7.2
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[03:13] rektide: i modified tools/waf-light to use python2.6, guess that'll do for now
[03:13] rektide: or it'll crash when i type make
[03:13] rektide: :/
[03:14] apsillers: just an update from earlier today: node successfully compiled on my QEMU arm VM, and the binary runs on my actual arm hardware!
[03:14] apsillers: I don't know why Debian's node.js package for arm is so out of date
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[03:15] Lorentz: Debian is just slow
[03:15] rektide: apsillers: way cool. what hardware are you using?
[03:15] apsillers: well, their x86 package is up to date
[03:15] apsillers: which is odd
[03:15] apsillers: x86 is v0.4, arm is 0.2
[03:16] apsillers: @rektide: my SheevaPlug
[03:16] marcello3d: anyone got node-canvas working on 0.5.9?
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[03:16] apsillers: I'm going to see if I can get EtherPad running on it
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[03:19] Tprice: what is the option from browser.selectOption(option) zombie?
[03:19] Tprice: im getting an error " Cannot call method 'dispatchEvent' of undefined"
[03:19] Tprice: im getting an error " Cannot call method 'dispatchEvent' of undefined"
[03:20] Tprice: dont think im doing it right
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[03:33] rektide: this... is not working
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[03:33] brianc: what isn't?
[03:34] rektide: there's a lot of stuff in tools that is expecting python to be python 2.6
[03:34] Aria: What sort of failures?
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[03:36] Aria: 
ACTION brews some snakejuice to test with.

[03:37] brianc: pass some of that my way
[03:37] brianc: sounds delicious
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[03:41] dthompso99: query for anyone good with c++ addons, i cant seem to find a good example of this...
[03:42] dthompso99: I have an addon... once i require it, i call a "new"  xxxx
[03:42] dthompso99: from that new xxx, i'd like to expose some methods to js
[03:43] dthompso99: but i cant find the "target" to use for the templates
[03:43] dthompso99: that probably made no sense.... 
[03:44] Aria: No, it does. It's a bit tricky.
[03:44] Aria: It's kinda backward feeling inside. You have to wrap and unwrap the objects you want from JS wrappers.
[03:44] brianc: dthompso99: are you making the add-on? can you show your code?
[03:44] Aria: Or set it up in the initialize method. You usually end up with TWO methods for each function. One static, that unwraps the real object and calls the method, and then the real method.
[03:45] Aria: You register the first, not the second.
[03:45] dthompso99: yes, i can show... i'll pastebin it ina  sec
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[03:46] dthompso99: http://pastebin.com/rm7h2dGv
[03:48] dthompso99: Aria: so option 1 is to put the target in the wrapper of the "new" method... and unwrap it somewhere on the other side?
[03:48] Aria: Yes, possibly. I'm looking at your code to get a less abstract idea.
[03:48] Aria: What sort of methods are you having trouble exposing?
[03:49] dthompso99: for the child objects, they need to have a read / write method
[03:50] Aria: (And which is the child?)
[03:50] Aria: Oh, the things created by new?
[03:50] dthompso99: NewCm15a / NewCM11a
[03:50] dthompso99: right
[03:50] Aria: Okay, so you're wrapping in an X10. Good.
[03:51] neekers: if i have  app.use(express.static(__dirname + '/public'));, where do i put index.html and how to i access it?
[03:51] Aria: neekers: in whatever __dirname + '/public' is, as index.html?
[03:51] neekers: this works but i dont think its right, fs.readFile(__dirname + '/public/index.html',
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[03:52] Aria: Sure, if you want to read it as a file, neekers. But you should be exposing it to the web with static, so you shouldn't need to touch it.
[03:52] neekers: Aria: i'm not sure how to read it otherwise
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[03:52] Aria: neekers: who are you reading it to?
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[03:53] Aria: Okay, dthompso99: What I think you want to do is add functions to the PrototypeTemplate of the ConstructorTemplate
[03:53] neekers: app.get('/', function(req, res){
[03:53] Aria: neekers: and? What's trying to access index.html?
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[03:54] neekers: i'm using readfile and then res.end(data); where data is from the file
[03:54] Aria: dthompso99: So you'd add new FunctionTemplate::New(NewCm15a) sorts of things there.
[03:55] dthompso99: Aria:  any thoughts on an example of that?
[03:55] Aria: neekers: Okay... so why are you using the static middleware?
[03:56] Aria: neekers: Looks like you're trying to not use it there.
[03:56] neekers: when i created a new project with express, that was there, i just assumed i was supposed to used some how to serve static files
[03:56] brianc: dthompso99:  I can get you an example
[03:56] brianc: dthompso99: one moment
[03:56] neekers: Aria: https://gist.github.com/1283332
[03:56] dthompso99: sweet, thanks
[03:56] rektide: getting this error when trying to compile: http://pastebin.com/F8tVTNT2
[03:56] Aria: neekers: Sure. So go to /index.html.
[03:56] brianc: dthompso99: https://github.com/brianc/node-postgres/blob/master/src/binding.cc#L67
[03:57] Aria: Oh, right! The NODE_SET_PROTOTYPE_METHOD macro.
[03:57] dthompso99: oooh!  sweet
[03:57] neekers: Aria: i tried fs.readFile(__dirname + '/index.html', but it couldnt find the file
[03:57] dthompso99: i seen that there, but had no idea thats what it did
[03:58] Aria: neekers: No, drop all that. Just to go to http://yourserver/index.html -- it'll read the file to you. N
[03:58] dthompso99: how to args get handled with that macro?
[03:59] dthompso99: nm, i see, just in a wrapper
[03:59] Aria: Yep.
[03:59] neekers: Aria: in app.get('/', function(req, res){ here?
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[03:59] neekers: go to?
[03:59] Aria: neekers: No, in your browser.  Just try it.
[03:59] Aria: neekers: you're expecting to have to write code. You don't.
[04:00] Aria: The middleware you use, the express.static bit -- that serves files in public/. For you.
[04:00] Aria: No intervention required.
[04:00] Aria: URL = filename.
[04:00] Aria: No magic, really. It's a dumb static file server.
[04:00] brianc: it will help you avoid accidentally serving files from other places on your file system though
[04:01] neekers: ahh, i see
[04:01] brianc: so if someone requests http://yourserver/../../../var/log/auth.log it doesn't send them that file
[04:02] Aria: rektide: I just built node with python 2.7, as far as I can tell. All working.
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[04:04] Tprice: hey im using zombie/jsdom and im getting this error http://pastebin.com/E8di3bkv
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[04:04] marcello3d: hmmm
[04:04] Aria: Oh dear. Zombie's monkeypatches to jsdom. Which version of jsdom? (might try wiggling the versions of jsdom and zombie -- I know jsdom just had a release, not sure if it's synched with zombie yet)
[04:04] marcello3d: need a different version of connect/express to use 0.5.9...
[04:05] marcello3d: possible to install via npm or do I need to build from sauce?
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[04:05] brianc: mmmm…sauce.
[04:05] brianc: i like that
[04:06] Tprice: it says "jsdom": "~0.2.7"
[04:07] neekers: Aria: i had some conditional things that need to happen based on whether the query string had certain parameters. if so i would do one thing and if not, i would serve up index.html. i assume that i cant serve up static files using express.static if i need to use my logic?
[04:07] Tprice: i havean older version of zombie but its trowing other error
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[04:07] Aria: So that's ~any 0.2.x, Tprice. Try installing another version, a point lower or so.
[04:07] Aria: Just as a guess.
[04:07] Aria: neekers: That's not exactly static, then ;-)
[04:07] rektide: Aria: hrm, thanks for the report. i've had to re-symlinkpython to 2.6 will see what happens next
[04:08] Aria: neekers: So yeah, you have to do the serving yourself, or make middleware that lives above the static handler that tweaks the request as it goes by.
[04:08] neekers: ahah
[04:08] Aria: rektide: make sure you delete the pyc files, of course.
[04:08] neekers: Aria: node is opening up a whole new world to me, i need to start thinking a little differently...
[04:09] jesusabdullah: curl li225-26.members.linode.com:9001 C:
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[04:10] dthompso99: here's a silly, hypothetical idea....
[04:10] dthompso99: what if someone wrote a framebuffer addon for node...
[04:11] dthompso99: then we could write node.os... the predicessor for android!  and why not, MS is now allowing js in the core
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[04:13] Aria: Hehe.
[04:13] Aria: Not too far fetched.
[04:13] dthompso99: event driven... it could make a great platform
[04:14] Aria: Indeed.
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[04:15] dthompso99: oh yea... the framebuffer driver is a "canvas"... so rendering is familiar to js devs
[04:16] Aria: Ayep. And there's already node-canvas.
[04:16] Aria: Just needs an output that doesn't depend on too many other layers.
[04:16] Tprice: ok so im running version 0.9.7 of zombie im getting thie error http://pastebin.com/1FPMvuYX
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[04:19] marcello3d: 0.5.9 compatibility is a pain... pulled down the express sauce, but it's complaining about hamljs not being compatible with 0.5.9
[04:19] dthompso99: cool.. that macro works, but small detail... it does not show up on a var_export of the object
[04:19] Aria: How about of the object's prototype?
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[04:23] dthompso99: console.log("cm15a proto: ", cm15a.prototype); ?
[04:23] dthompso99: ahh, __proto__
[04:24] dthompso99: yes, it shows up there
[04:25] marcello3d: why would npm ls list something as 'invalid'?
[04:25] Aria: Yeah. An instance, __proto__; a constructor, prototype.
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[04:28] dthompso99: it that unique to node or v8? or just a detail i never knew?
[04:28] tbranyen: __proto__ is nonstandard and maybe someday deprecated property setter
[04:28] tbranyen: and getter
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[04:29] dthompso99: ahh, same as .constructor.prototype
[04:29] Aria: Yeah.
[04:30] Aria: I believe it's common to spidermonkey and v8.
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[04:35] marcello3d: ugh. socket.io isn't compatible with the new express/connect style
[04:35] brianc1: what is the new express/connect style?
[04:36] marcello3d: I don't know. but it seems dickish ;D
[04:36] marcello3d: require('express')() instead of require('express').createServer()
[04:36] brianc1: dickish style?
[04:36] brianc1: not sure I'm into that
[04:36] brianc1: oh, that's how connect has been for a long time
[04:36] marcello3d: and .use() chaining instead of passing an list of middleware
[04:37] marcello3d: really? seems to be new in 2.x?
[04:37] marcello3d: *a list
[04:37] brianc1: connect(connect.static(__dirname + '/public')).listen(3000)
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[04:37] marcello3d: socketio.listen(app) gives me 00:34:51.068 ERROR src/config.js Uncaught exception TypeError: Object function app(req, res){ app.handle(req, res); } has no method 'listeners' 
[04:38] marcello3d: yea no it's not like that anymore
[04:38] brianc1: strange
[04:38] marcello3d: the new style would be connect().use(connect.static(__dirname + '/public')).listen(3000)
[04:38] brianc1: I'm sure it'll work out quickly
[04:39] brianc1: that is a pretty drastic api change
[04:39] brianc1: in a sense
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[04:39] brianc1: considering all the documentation already written for the existing api
[04:39] marcello3d: yea
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[04:42] marcello3d: looks like it happened back in july: https://github.com/senchalabs/connect/commit/e2cae7fdf2a3cb8a7e7396b7779f41872da2de43#lib/http.js
[04:43] Aria: I really wish people would date or version their examples.
[04:43] Aria: It'd make this sort of thing so much easier to fix.
[04:45] marcello3d: oh this is weird...
[04:45] marcello3d: I wonder where the listen method is coming from
[04:46] marcello3d: there is no listen method
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[04:47] marcello3d: now I'm super confused
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[04:49] marcello3d: you're probably supposed to do something like http.createServer(connect().use(foo)).listen() I bet
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[04:50] marcello3d: anyway. off to sleep
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[05:18] [muttox]: I just created a simple example nodejs file and i seem to be getting the handler called twice every user request, any idea why this would be?
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[05:19] joshgillies: gotsta buy powarrr tonight
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[05:22] AvianFlu: [muttox], are you testing it with a browser?
[05:22] [muttox]: AvianFlu: yes
[05:23] [muttox]: its just a basic hello world with a log, page returns and the console.log output occurs twice
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[05:23] AvianFlu: your browser is requesting favicon.ico
[05:23] AvianFlu: along with whatever.html
[05:23] AvianFlu: hence two requests
[05:24] AvianFlu: it's generally cleaner to test with something like curl... browsers do all sorts of stuff you might not expect
[05:24] [muttox]: ahh, makes sense
[05:24] [muttox]: guess the browser side the debug window doesn't bother with the favicon request
[05:25] AvianFlu: likely not
[05:25] AvianFlu: it's just One Of Those Things
[05:25] [muttox]: well thanks on the reply AvianFlu, clears that up
[05:26] AvianFlu: np
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[05:56] tonymilne: anyone able to help me, Im trying to combo a view helper and a dynamic view helper using expess + ejs
[05:57] tonymilne: as far as i can tell, i need to create a dynamic view helper that returns a function that accepts a parameter, such that the req and res passed to dynamic view helper are closured into the inner function
[05:57] tonymilne: then call it kinda something like (helper()('parameter')
[05:57] tonymilne: * derped the parens, but you get the point.
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[06:04] stagas: tonymilne: I think dynamic helpers are evaluated so you only get the return value in your view. so if you return a function it would be helper('parameter') in the view
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[06:06] tonymilne: ah, good point. ;) ok, that gives me something solid to go on.
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[06:09] tonymilne: Profit. Thanks stagas. For a brief moment i thought #nodejs was gonna give me donuts.
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[06:16] m0: Hi everyone, I am using express-resource to do  a resource for "exports.show" it works great on "api" but it doesn't work (404) on "api/topics"
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[06:17] m0: Any idea why it would be that way?
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[06:44] eddyb: hi
[06:44] eddyb: so, I have my directory setup for npm (package.json, index.js, etc)
[06:44] eddyb: I've installed the required modules (apparently they were put in a node_modules directory inside my directory)
[06:44] eddyb: now, how do I install my module?
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[06:45] eddyb: npm install . # seems to work, but require('moduleName'); doesn't work after
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[06:48] eddyb: nevermind
[06:48] eddyb: I was dizzy
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[06:59] aamir-m: Hi, I have got couple of queries related to node. For our upcoming application we are planning to develope use node as a webserver and application stack
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[06:59] aamir-m: My first query is, which hosting provider is most economical and reliable to host node application
[07:00] aamir-m: Any idea?
[07:00] mmalecki: aamir-m: nodejitsu (we're in beta now, so everything is free)
[07:00] aamir-m: I would like to use not with either mongodb or couchdb
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[07:01] aamir-m: thanks mmalecki
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[07:01] mmalecki: aamir-m: you can use mongodb, couchdb and redis :)
[07:02] aamir-m: oh thats great
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[07:04] aamir-m: Since it is in beta, how long will it take to get stable and what are the various plans available?
[07:04] mmalecki: aamir-m: soon, that's what I've heard
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[07:05] mmalecki: aamir-m: hey, how about joining #nodejitsu? we can give you way more info there :)
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[07:06] aamir-m: I signed up, just now...
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[07:06] aamir-m: :)
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[07:07] aamir-m: mmlecki: I got this message, We are currently in private beta, so unfortunately we can't quite activate your account yet! 
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[07:07] mmalecki: aamir-m: I'm pretty sure we can get you activated today
[07:08] aamir-m: thanks...
[07:09] mmalecki: aamir-m: join #nodejitsu, and tell us your account details, someone will get to you ASAP :)
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[07:09] aamir-m: sure :)
[07:09] SubStack: browserify: now with --watch
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[07:20] mmalecki: mikeal: hey, remember when you've wanted to turn issues into pull requests?
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[07:21] mmalecki: mikeal: http://developer.github.com/v3/pulls/#alternative-input
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[07:25] aamir-m: Which is the best web framework for mvc like application developing with node?
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[07:25] mmalecki: aamir-m: I would use express
[07:26] dreamdust: http://expressjs.com/
[07:26] mmalecki: aamir-m: but also, how about client-side rendering? knockout.js, for example
[07:26] SubStack: aamir-m: what do you actually want to do?
[07:26] aamir-m: Currently i am researchin on that... What about jquery templates?
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[07:29] mmalecki: aamir-m: they're nice for client-side templating
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[07:34] aamir-m: hmmm
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[07:35] [AD]Turbo: hi there
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[08:07] CIA-48: node: 03koichik 07 * r1b55010 10/ doc/api/modules.markdown : docs: added .json modules. - http://git.io/19KOhg
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[08:31] ppcano: Defining a method on this way ---> ClassFunction.prototype.my_method = function() {.....}. Is there any way inside the function to know which is the function name which is being executed??
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[08:46] smathy: ppcano… no.
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[08:58] [AD]Turbo: is there a method to post code snippet on github (issues section) ? it seems that <code> nor [code] tags are supported
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[09:15] stagas: [AD]Turbo: ```\ncode here\n```
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[09:17] smathy: "His pointer has been cast to void *; his process has terminated with exit code 0." - http://goo.gl/hoFHt
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[09:20] mmalecki: Dennis Ritchie is dead?
[09:20] mmalecki: oh :(
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[09:24] smathy: Seriously, what a fucking month!
[09:25] mmalecki: I hope Stallman won't go full retard again
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[10:44] neekers: i have my k&r book sitting right next to me
[10:45] neekers: oh, the previous comment is over an hour old... :)
[10:46] OneOfOne: anyone knows if cluster or multi_ode work with with 0.5.9 or not?
[10:46] mmalecki: OneOfOne: cluster is now built-in into node
[10:47] OneOfOne: mmalecki: huh what where?
[10:47] mmalecki: and I'm not even kidding
[10:47] mmalecki: give me a sec, I'll find this commit
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[10:47] mmalecki: https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/87339a22b1cc539259c02119bd7381006d56396d
[10:48] mmalecki: https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/de7fb3387980666f40ea5224992bc4068c430a6d <- docs
[10:48] OneOfOne: mmalecki: dude you rock, thanks :)
[10:48] Guest69010: hey guys
[10:48] mmalecki: OneOfOne: it isn't *that* cluster, ofc
[10:48] OneOfOne: mmalecki: yeah but close enough :)
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[10:49] Guest69010: trying to child_process.execFile(..) on windows, and I'm passing something like "C:\Program Files\..." - and I'm pretty sure the file is there. but call just fails
[10:49] Guest69010: any ideas?
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[10:49] OneOfOne: Guest69010: either double escape \\ or use /
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[10:49] OneOfOne: but that's just a wild guess
[10:50] Guest69010: OneOfOne: it is escaped properly :/
[10:50] OneOfOne: Guest69010: doesi t show any errors?
[10:50] OneOfOne: what happens if you try to read the file (fs.readFileSync() and console.log it?
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[10:52] Guest69010: path.existsSync(...) returns true
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[10:53] Guest69010: it shows a stack trace, but I believe this is a bug; instead of failing gracefully when it doesnt find the file to execute, it blows. i confirmed it by trying to execFile something that doesnt exist
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[10:54] OneOfOne: Guest69010: share the stat trace please
[10:54] OneOfOne: stack*
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[11:16] lv: [16:42]  while runing  var io = require('socket.io').listen(80);  io.sockets.on('connection', function (socket) {   socket.emit('news', { hello: 'world' });   socket.on('my other event', function (data) {     console.log(data);   }); });     i got EACCESS  permission denied error. why i got this?
[11:17] jetienne_: lv: sudo node index.js
[11:17] jetienne_: lv: or bind a port above 1024
[11:17] jetienne_: lv: .listen(8000) and all is working :)
[11:17] lv: where should i keep thjis file?
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[11:21] lv: <jetienne_>  i saved this file(server.js)  in /node_modules/socket.io/examples/nsock   folder. (i created nsock )
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[11:21] jetienne_: lv: i dont understand
[11:23] zastaph: how come my app sometimes returns back to shell and sometimes not thus requiring ctrl+z to exit? is it because I forget to call something from my callback methods?
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[11:25] Emmanuel`: (you know that Ctrl+z actually don't exit, right ?)
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[11:26] zastaph: well, it gets me back to the prompt :)
[11:26] zastaph: i just want node to exit gracefully
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[11:31] zastaph: also confuse me sometimes that console.log run asynchronously.. hard to use for debug prints then.. because if one is called before another in code, it can occur that the second is displayed first
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[11:33] zastaph: if I need to call 2 functions and make sure 1 is run before the other, I cant just funct1(); funct2(); right? I need to put funct2() inside the callback of funct1() ?
[11:34] OneOfOne: zastaph: ctrl+c for exiting
[11:34] zastaph: yeah i might have used ctrl+c actually, I forget to look :)
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[11:43] zastaph: I will give https://github.com/0ctave/node-sync a try
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[11:47] jimit: hello
[11:48] jimit: hello ryah
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[11:57] ydef: Hey guys -- I've been building and re-building node, stable, head, and I just can't get node-waf to work -- it keeps saying "importerror, no module js2c"
[11:58] ydef: during the make install, it looks like the symlinks for the v8 py files just are not being created. (not sure if this could be because, long ago, I installed node from a package manager? but now I have HEAD and practically every other version ...)
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[12:00] ydef: heh, so ... obviously I can just copy those .py files into place manually, but I don't even know where node will be looking for them ... grrrrrrr.
[12:01] sixtus42: Question about C++ modules: Anybody got an example how to return a new c++ instance as the return value of a c++ method?
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[12:06] lv: i used same server and client code from http://socket.io/  home page.  i saved these files (server.js, clinet.js) in  /node_modules/socket.io/examples/nsock   folder (i created nsock ). should i keep server and client code in the same folder? or how and where should i keep? how should i run them?  while running server.js (~/node_modules/socket.io/examples/nsock$ node server.js ) it displayed  info- socket.io started  while runing client.j
[12:06] lv: i got this error /home/arya/node_modules/socket.io/examples/nsock/client.js:1 <script src="/no ^  node.js:134         throw e; // process.nextTick error, or 'error' event on first tick         ^ SyntaxError: Unexpected token <     at Module._compile (module.js:406:25)     at Object..js (module.js:417:10)     at Module.load (module.js:343:31)     at Function._load (module.js:302:12)     at Array.<anonymous> (module.js:430:10)     at EventE
[12:06] TheNumb: lv: erm, nopaste.com?
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[12:07] chjj: dennis ritchie :(
[12:07] lv: <TheNumb> means?
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[12:08] TheNumb: lv: use pastebin.com
[12:08] TheNumb: ;]
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[12:09] lv: <TheNumb> suggetions: where is it?
[12:09] mmalecki: process.stdout = fs.createWriteStream('/dev/null') is no longer possible, is it a bug or is it a desired behavior?
[12:10] mmalecki: (by no longer possible I mean: it doesn't affect anything)
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[12:10] mmalecki: it worked fine on v0.4.x
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[12:21] onr: tjholowaychuk: no watch feature in new versions of jade?
[12:21] tjholowaychuk: watch is lame
[12:21] tjholowaychuk: use a makefile and/or watch(1)
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[12:21] lv: any suggestions?  http://pastebin.com/QrtfYuFt
[12:22] mmalecki: so, I guess it's time to use bisect
[12:23] onr: tjholowaychuk: watch command seems ok. will you remove watch from stylus too?
[12:23] tjholowaychuk: onr: not any time soon, but perhaps
[12:23] tjholowaychuk: the stylus one is a bit more complicated since it checks imports etc as well
[12:23] tjholowaychuk: but overall i dont like watch functionality
[12:23] tjholowaychuk: pointless IMO
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[12:32] drudge: awww, mongoose FATAL ERROR: CALL_AND_RETRY_2 Allocation failed - process out of memory
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[12:43] lv: how to deploy  my own server and client socket.io applications in node_modules? after that how to run them?
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[12:48] Sembiance: lv: /join #socket.io
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[12:51] lv: <Sembiance> can you elaborate?
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[12:52] TheJH: lv, he says that you should join the #socket.io channel on this chat network for help. to do that, you have to type this: "/join #socket.io"
[12:54] lv: <TheJH> <Sembiance> thank you.
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[12:57] mmalecki: fucking awesome -.-. git bisect fails because of -Werror.
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[12:57] TheJH: mmalecki, well, put patching and unpatching in your bisect script :D
[12:58] mmalecki: TheJH: different build systems
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[12:58] TheJH: mmalecki, huh?
[12:59] mmalecki: TheJH: node build system changed somewhere between v0.4.12 and v0.5.9
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[12:59] mmalecki: this would get pretty complicated
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[12:59] mmalecki: I will just fill an issue
[12:59] mmalecki: *file
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[13:00] mmalecki: TheJH: unless you know why I can't process.stdout = fs.createWriteStream('/dev/null')
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[13:04] Raul_: Hello everyone
[13:05] Raul_: I seem to be encountering some problems using npm
[13:05] Raul_: It shows a DNS server returning with no data err
[13:05] Raul_: http://pastebin.com/NSYTgFbv
[13:06] TheJH: hey Raul_ 
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[13:06] TheJH: Raul_, what does "nslookup google.com" show?
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[13:06] Raul_: Hello!
[13:07] Sembiance: Raul_: you had some problems yesterday with NPM too didn't you? :)
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[13:07] Raul_: @Sembiance: Yeah that was installing npm itself :')
[13:07] Raul_: rahul@android:~/Downloads$ nslookup google.com ;; Got recursion not available from 172.31.1.1, trying next server ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached 
[13:08] Raul_: @TheJH
[13:08] Sembiance: Raul_: seems like your DNS maybe isn't set up quite right :)
[13:08] Sembiance: Raul_: which OS? Linux? Mac?
[13:08] Raul_: Ubuntu 11.04
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[13:08] Sembiance: Raul_: Run:  cat /etc/resolv.conf   see what's in there
[13:08] Raul_: # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 172.31.1.1 nameserver 4.2.2.1 nameserver 8.8.8.8
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[13:08] Raul_: thats my resolv.conf
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[13:09] TheJH: Raul_, try moving the 8.8.8.8 nameserver on top (networkmanager will reset this after the next reconnect)
[13:09] Sembiance: Raul_: well, the 8.8.8.8 entry is Google's DNS server, but the first one is a local IP address. It sounds like it's porbably having issues. Move that line to the bottom
[13:09] TheJH: Raul_, then try the nslookup again
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[13:10] Raul_: Lemme try that
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[13:11] Raul_: Do i have to networking restart?
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[13:11] TheJH: Raul_, no, don't
[13:12] TheJH: Raul_, when you restart networking or reconnect or so, it'll undo your changes
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[13:12] TheJH: Raul_, if this works, you'll have to change some other configuration to make it permanent
[13:12] Raul_: Ouch!
[13:12] Raul_: Oh ohk
[13:12] Raul_: really?
[13:12] TheJH: Raul_, I think you can tell it to ignore the network-supplied DNS in the network options GUI or so
[13:12] Raul_: So for now i just try shifting that line to the top
[13:13] Raul_: and nslookup?
[13:13] TheJH: Raul_, yes, try nslookup after you changed resolv.conf
[13:14] Raul_: for the sake of completeness, i am behind a uni proxy
[13:14] Raul_: nslookup yields the same thing again
[13:14] TheJH: Raul_, ewww
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[13:14] TheJH: Raul_, ah, right, I think we talked about the proxy configuration option yesterday, right?
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[13:15] TheJH: Raul_, did you try "npm config set proxy <proxy info>" and "npm config set https-proxy <proxy info>"?
[13:15] Raul_: No
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[13:16] TheJH: Raul_, that's what you need if there's a proxy
[13:17] Raul_: Yeah editing .npmrc right now
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[13:18] Raul_: http://pastebin.com/eZW3J2et
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[13:18] Raul_: Thats my .npmrc right now?
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[13:19] Raul_: Any other changes i should make in that : TheJH
[13:19] Sembiance: Raul_: I get the feeling that your in a corporate environment :)
[13:19] Raul_: Erm.. insti actually
[13:19] TheJH: Raul_, the two proxy options should be sufficient
[13:20] TheJH: Raul_, at least if https works normally
[13:20] TheJH: errm, I mean, at least if the https proxy behaves normally
[13:20] Raul_: Anyway of checking that?
[13:20] Raul_: the https i mean
[13:21] Raul_: btw Sorry,  i dont quite follow "two proxy options"
[13:21] aamir-m: Just wanted to know... How does node.js manages multiple website on same server on port 80?
[13:21] tjholowaychuk: aamir-m there's an abstraction in libuv for fd passing
[13:21] TheJH: Raul_, with two proxy options, I meant hroxy and https-proxy
[13:22] TheJH: aamir-m, what do you mean with that?
[13:23] aamir-m: TheJH: If I want to host multiple domains on IP 123.123.123.123 using node.js, how would I do that and how does node manages it?
[13:23] aamir-m: TheJH: multiple domains on the same port: 80
[13:23] TheJH: aamir-m, there are some modules for that which do reverse proxying
[13:23] tjholowaychuk: aamir-m with 0.4.x you would use http://learnboost.github.com/cluster/ or similar
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[13:24] TheJH: !@aamir-m npm search http-proxy
[13:24] jhbot: aamir-m, packages (short format): http-proxy-selective, http-proxy-no-line-184-error, http-proxy-backward, http-proxy-glimpse, proxy-by-url, http-proxy, czagenda-http-proxy
[13:24] tjholowaychuk: node has similar built-in for 0.5.x
[13:24] TheJH: !@aamir-m npm info http-proxy
[13:24] jhbot: aamir-m, http-proxy by Charlie Robbins, version 0.7.3: A full-featured http reverse proxy for node.js
[13:24] whse: aamir-m: I don't think it's node that handles it itself, you'd have yo use something that uses routing based on the requested hostname
[13:24] aamir-m: hmmmm
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[13:25] aamir-m: thanks all...
[13:25] TheJH: aamir-m, that's what nodejitsu, a node hosting company, uses, so it's well maintained
[13:25] TheJH: aamir-m, I'm pretty sure they even developed it
[13:25] aamir-m: which proxy nodejitsu uses?
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[13:26] tjholowaychuk: aamir-m might want to look at SubStack/bouncy as well
[13:26] TheJH: aamir-m, "http-proxy"
[13:26] TheJH: !@aamir-m npm info http-proxy
[13:26] jhbot: aamir-m, http-proxy by Charlie Robbins, version 0.7.3: A full-featured http reverse proxy for node.js
[13:26] whse: ? for the lot: In receiving mime-like messages, that may be spread over multiple 'data' events .. what would be the best way to handle that in a buffer? 
[13:26] tjholowaychuk: nicer api for vhost-style stuff
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[13:27] jroes: anyone use the async lib regularly?
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[13:27] aamir-m: Thanks again...
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[13:28] Raul_: http://pastebin.com/1An5Cpf1
[13:29] groom: has anyone around experiences with creating server side html using nodejs and extjs?
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[13:29] whse: Raul_: serious dns issues u have there.
[13:29] Raul_: @whse: u scare me..
[13:31] Raul_: @TheJH npm info hhtp-proxy yields the same as the above pastebin
[13:31] TheJH: Raul_, gist the output of "npm config ls"
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[13:32] whse: So.. anyone on buffering multi-part mime-like messages ?
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[13:33] Raul_: @TheJH: http://pastebin.com/nbPKY7iX
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[13:34] TheJH: Raul_, you didn't configure "https-proxy"
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[13:34] TheJH: Raul_, npm uses https for communication, not http
[13:34] Raul_: i just change that http to https?
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[13:34] TheJH: Raul_, no
[13:34] TheJH: Raul_, add an entry "https-proxy" like you added a "proxy"
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[13:35] TheJH: Raul_, http://npmjs.org/doc/config.html#https-proxy
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[13:36] jroes: has anyone written anything about the (err, result) convention for callbacks?
[13:36] jroes: I feel like I must have missed that memo
[13:37] jroes: yet every library just assumes you understand that to be the case
[13:37] TheJH: !docs search first argument error
[13:37] jhbot: truncated list:
[13:37] jhbot: section "console": http://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/all.html#console
[13:37] jhbot: section "util": http://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/all.html#util
[13:38] jhbot: section "TLS (SSL)": http://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/all.html#tLS_
[13:38] TheJH: !docs search first argument error convention
[13:38] jhbot: no results
[13:38] TheJH: !docs search first parameter error convention
[13:38] jhbot: no results
[13:38] TheJH: hmm...
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[13:39] mmalecki: !docs search callback arguments
[13:39] jhbot: truncated list:
[13:39] jhbot: section "Timers": http://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/all.html#timers
[13:39] jhbot: section "process": http://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/all.html#process
[13:39] jhbot: section "util": http://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/all.html#util
[13:39] Raul_: @TheJH this might sound completely inexperienced but do i set it as https-proxy = http://blah-blah   or   as https://blah -blah
[13:40] TheJH: Raul_, this might sound completely inexperienced but I have no idea :D - try both
[13:41] Raul_: :')
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[13:42] jroes: EventEmitter listeners aren't like this though
[13:42] jroes: maybe it was the convention a long time ago and that changed?
[13:42] whse: Nobody on buffering longer messages ?
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[13:43] Raul_: I tried it both ways and then tried npm install express and i get the heartbreaking ENODATA err again
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[13:44] christophsturm: I am publishing a npm package, and have a "files" array in my package.json. still it seems that npm publish just publishes all files in the directory and not only the files in my files array
[13:44] Raul_: @TheJH
[13:46] hotch: wuuhh
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[13:48] jetienne: v8 will have a incremental gc !!! https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/group/misc/browse_thread/thread/6f07b45acf095897#
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[13:48] CIA-48: node: 03Ben Noordhuis 07 * r5faff9e 10/ test/simple/test-setproctitle.js : 
[13:48] CIA-48: node: test: test long process name support
[13:48] CIA-48: node: On platforms that support it: linux, freebsd, darwin - http://git.io/SGazKA
[13:48] CIA-48: node: 03Ben Noordhuis 07 * rfab68aa 10/ src/platform_linux.cc : platform: support long process names on linux - http://git.io/qmJ0vQ
[13:50] mmalecki: I THINK SOMEONE SAID DART.
[13:50] TheJH_phone: Raul_, put the registry in your hostsfile
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[13:50] TheJH_phone: :D
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[13:51] Raul_: @TheJH in /etc/hosts you mean?
[13:51] Raul_: and btw isnt the phone uncomfy much?
[13:53] TheJH_phone: Raul_, yes, etc hosts
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[13:53] sixtus42: bnoordhuis: sorry to bother again. I am stuck on creating and returning a wrapped c++ object from within a c++ addon method. So far google is failing how best do that.
[13:54] TheJH_phone: Raul_, well, riding my bike, cant use anything else
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[13:54] Raul_: You are ON A BIKE!!! :O
[13:54] Raul_: :D
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[13:55] bnoordhuis: sixtus42: what's the issue?
[13:55] bnoordhuis: sixtus42: if you want a good example of creating js objects from within c++, look at e.g. src/tcp_wrap.cc
[13:55] sixtus42: sixtus42: I am trying to write a c++ method that returns a new c++ object. I am not sure how do that, I just need a small example
[13:55] sixtus42: bnoordhuis: cheers
[13:56] bnoordhuis: sixtus42: in a nutshell: create an ObjectTemplate or FunctionTemplate, set prototype methods, export constructor to js land
[13:56] sixtus42: bnoordhuis: actually I want to create a c++ object, but I check the code first
[13:56] mmalecki: TheJH_phone: IRCing while on a bike?
[13:56] mmalecki: wow.
[13:57] bnoordhuis: sixtus42: oh, if you want a traditional ObjectWrap example, take a look at node-iconv
[13:57] TheJH_phone: Raul_, when i use my phone nick, im usually either at school or on my bike
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[13:58] Raul_: School picking up kids or studying?
[13:58] Raul_: :P
[13:59] TheJH_phone: Studying
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[13:59] TheJH_phone: not that old :D
[13:59] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: should I still care about v0.4.x when patching docs?
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[13:59] Raul_: Cool
[14:00] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: we're probably not going to put out another 0.4.x release so no
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[14:02] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: ok, thanks
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[14:09] CIA-48: node: 03Simen Brekken 07 * r4b0e368 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:09] CIA-48: node: net: register net.Server callback only once
[14:09] CIA-48: node: Only register once for listening when passing a callback to Server.listen(),
[14:09] CIA-48: node: this prevents servers recycled using close() from invoking the callback when
[14:09] CIA-48: node: Server.listen() is called later. - http://git.io/ydSlhQ
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[14:22] hotch: anyone using the request module? i know that it's pretty popular, i need to use it for doing a basic auth test, I'm getting  a500 error with this code, any ideas?> request({url : "http://localhost:8080/",headers : { Authorization :"Basic " + new Buffer("myuser" + ":" + "mypassword").toString("Base64")}}
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[14:33] sechrist: request supports basic auth doesn't it?
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[14:37] CoverSlide: http.request supports basic auth
[14:38] CoverSlide: you just gotta write it in
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[14:40] wmage: everything that supports sending custom headers supports basic auth..
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[14:42] xerox: this is handy https://github.com/mikeal/request
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[14:43] wmage: 
ACTION using that too

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[15:04] CIA-48: node: 03Maciej Małecki 07 * r683c1c6 10/ doc/api/process.markdown : docs: document `process.versions` - http://git.io/p_-a0Q
[15:04] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: thanks :)
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[15:24] PEM: Hello :)
[15:24] joshkehn: Hi
[15:25] PEM: i'm looking for some node.js experts
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[15:26] SixView: PEM:  How expert? You may just be in the right place ;-)
[15:27] PEM: well expert enough to speak at a conference
[15:27] PEM: ^^
[15:27] chjj: does that mean you have to have spoken at a conference?
[15:27] jetienne: PEM: ask `3rdeden
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[15:27] Shekhu: hi all
[15:27] PEM: no experience needed as a speaker
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[15:27] SixView: Ah.  I am good but un-annointed.  There are better qualified about..
[15:28] PEM: but we want people with passion and willing to share this passion with other fellow developpers
[15:28] bnoordhuis: PEM: conference where?
[15:28] jetienne: PEM: he is core contributor on socket.io
[15:28] PEM: France
[15:28] PEM: April 2012
[15:28] bnoordhuis: ah, the deep future
[15:28] bnoordhuis: where in france?
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[15:29] PEM: main themes of the conference will be Javascript, WebGL, html5 + css3, web semantics and hosting (though the last two will be minor themes)
[15:29] PEM: Beziers, south west of France
[15:29] Shekhu: I have a query regarding node.js hosting.
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[15:29] JakeyChan: hi ?
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[15:30] JakeyChan: is there have good document for building node.js addon?
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[15:30] bnoordhuis: PEM: kind of far away, i'm from the netherlands
[15:30] Shekhu: how different is node.js hosting to normal one and how much difference there is in the hosting cost?
[15:30] PEM: http://www.web-5.org
[15:30] bnoordhuis: PEM: also, i don't know the first thing about webgl :/
[15:30] PEM: you can check the speakers already registered in the Hall of Fame link :)
[15:31] PEM: good opportunity to learn ;)
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[15:32] markdaws: Shekhu: node.js hosting is easy, you just need a linux server (I haven't tried on windows),  at the company I work for (clipboard.com) all our backend is powered by node (I love the smell of node in production :)) and we run hosted on virtualized servers on Rackspace running Ubuntu
[15:32] jpdery: hi
[15:33] jpdery: I'm trying to run a simple server app with nodejs and nowjs
[15:33] TheJH_phone: Shekhu, e.g. you can deploy with “jitsu deploy“ or “git push“
[15:33] Shekhu: Thanks Mark! I was wondering how different the cost of hosting a node.js site to a normal hosting. I'll give you a background of my application which I am working upon. It has Drupal at it's backend using a LAMP stack and node.js is handling everything else
[15:34] jpdery: I compiled nodejs on mac using the tutorial, everytime I try to run the server, I have a 'Cannot find module..' error
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[15:34] TheJH_phone: Shekhu, also, nodejitsu has a support irc channel
[15:34] joshkehn: jpdery: Have you installed any modules you're using?
[15:35] joshkehn: jpdery: Can you share a gist of the code you're trying to run?
[15:35] TheJH_phone: jdpery, nowjs is ugly
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[15:35] jpdery: TheJH_phone, why ? it looked awesome
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[15:36] jpdery: joshkehn: Error: Cannot find module 'socket.io'
[15:36] jpdery:     at Function._resolveFilename (module.js:317:11)
[15:36] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:262:25)
[15:36] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:36] jpdery:     at Object.<anonymous> (/Users/jpdery/.node_modules/now/lib/now.js:1:72)
[15:36] jpdery:     at Module._compile (module.js:402:26)
[15:36] jpdery:     at Object..js (module.js:408:10)
[15:37] bnoordhuis: jpdery: gist >:(
[15:37] jpdery:     at Module.load (module.js:334:31)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:293:12)
[15:37] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Object.<anonymous> (/Users/jpdery/.node_modules/now/lib/server.js:2:11)
[15:37] jpdery: ~/Projects/eye-on-pharma/server $ node server.js
[15:37] jpdery: node.js:134
[15:37] jpdery:         throw e; // process.nextTick error, or 'error' event on first tick
[15:37] jpdery:         ^
[15:37] joshkehn: Shit
[15:37] neekers: heh, what a dipstick
[15:37] jpdery: Error: Cannot find module 'socket.io-client'
[15:37] jpdery:     at Function._resolveFilename (module.js:317:11)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:262:25)
[15:37] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Object.<anonymous> (/Users/jpdery/.node_modules/socket.io/lib/socket.io.js:12:14)
[15:37] joshkehn: gist.github.com
[15:37] jpdery:     at Module._compile (module.js:402:26)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Object..js (module.js:408:10)
[15:37] joshkehn: jpdery: Stop pasting into the chat.
[15:37] joshkehn: Go to gist.github.com
[15:37] jpdery:     at Module.load (module.js:334:31)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:293:12)
[15:37] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Object.<anonymous> (/Users/jpdery/.node_modules/socket.io/index.js:8:18)
[15:37] jpdery: ~/Projects/eye-on-pharma/server $ node server.js
[15:37] jpdery: node.js:134
[15:37] jpdery:         throw e; // process.nextTick error, or 'error' event on first tick
[15:37] jpdery:         ^
[15:37] chjj: ...
[15:37] Shekhu: errr.. relax jpdery 
[15:37] jpdery: Error: Cannot find module 'uglify-js'
[15:37] jpdery:     at Function._resolveFilename (module.js:317:11)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:262:25)
[15:37] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Object.<anonymous> (/Users/jpdery/.node_modules/socket.io-client/bin/builder.js:13:14)
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[15:37] jpdery:     at Module._compile (module.js:402:26)
[15:37] jpdery:     at Object..js (module.js:408:10)
[15:37] neekers: hehe
[15:37] context: ...
[15:38] chjj: Shekhu: you just aggravated him more by saing that
[15:38] context: please stop pasting IN here
[15:38] jpdery:     at Module.load (module.js:334:31)
[15:38] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:293:12)
[15:38] jroes: just kick, he probably can't stop it at this point
[15:38] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:38] jpdery:     at /Users/jpdery/.node_modules/socket.io-client/lib/io.js:156:18
[15:38] jpdery: ~/Projects/eye-on-pharma/server $ node server.js
[15:38] jpdery: node.js:134
[15:38] jpdery:         throw e; // process.nextTick error, or 'error' event on first tick
[15:38] jpdery:         ^
[15:38] T0aD: hi freshmilk !
[15:38] context: NO
[15:38] chjj: oh, here it goes again
[15:38] context: we said stop!
[15:38] neekers: time to get a flood bot.
[15:38] jpdery: Error: Cannot find module 'uglify-js'
[15:38] jpdery:     at Function._resolveFilename (module.js:317:11)
[15:38] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:262:25)
[15:38] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:38] wao: nooo
[15:38] jpdery:     at Object.<anonymous> (/Users/jpdery/.node_modules/socket.io-client/bin/builder.js:13:14)
[15:38] joshkehn: He already hit paste, it's probably his chat client
[15:38] jpdery:     at Module._compile (module.js:402:26)
[15:38] jpdery:     at Object..js (module.js:408:10)
[15:38] mmalecki: ignoring.
[15:38] context: kk, ignore always works
[15:38] chjj: lol
[15:38] jpdery:     at Module.load (module.js:334:31)
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[15:38] joshkehn: There we go.
[15:38] Shekhu: any mods out there? :S
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[15:38] wao: bnoordhuis: Isaiah piscisaureus_ pquerna ryah 
[15:39] jpdery:   message: 'Cannot find module \'node-proxy\'' }
[15:39] jpdery: Error: Cannot find module 'node-proxy'
[15:39] jpdery:     at Function._resolveFilename (module.js:317:11)
[15:39] jpdery:     at Function._load (module.js:262:25)
[15:39] jpdery:     at require (module.js:346:19)
[15:39] jpdery:     at Object.<anonymous> (/Users/jpdery/.node_modules/now/lib/proxy.js:10:13)
[15:39] joshkehn: WTH
[15:39] jpdery:     at Module._compile (module.js:402:26)
[15:39] TheJH_phone: jpdery, look under the covers. One second sync interval
[15:39] piscisaureus_: Isaiah?
[15:39] piscisaureus_: hmm
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[15:39] mmalecki: banhammer activated.
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[15:39] wao: is he out alread? (dont see joins/parts/quits)
[15:39] Shekhu: okay so, my query was..
[15:39] wao: but by namelist yes :)
[15:40] markdaws: Shekhu: The cost of your hosting is going to be a function of how many servers you need for your load, the bandwidth, which providers you can use given the tools you need for hosting etc.  I don't have any numbers (someone here might) but node.js should scale better than Apache, so you could end up needing less webservers than LAMP.  We ran node on Linode, then switched to rackspace recently (And I run node on Amazon EC2 at h
[15:40] markdaws: ome), you'll just need to shop around for different hosting providers
[15:40] PEM: well, if any of you is interested in being a speaker, you can also find me on #web-5
[15:40] TheJH_phone: bnoordhuis++ for kicking a nowjs user :)
[15:40] epsas_: are people reading on their iPhones or something?  that was barely a flood
[15:40] bnoordhuis: PEM: i might - are expenses covered?
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[15:40] TheJH_phone: epsas_, me on android
[15:41] Shekhu: thanks mark, I pretty much got an idea of it. To sum it up, the cost is similar for node.js
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[15:41] T0aD: jpdery, could you please copy / paste your error again ? I think we missed a part of it :)
[15:41] jpdery: http://pastie.org/pastes/2689511
[15:41] neekers: heh
[15:41] jpdery: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to paste all of this
[15:41] neekers: heh
[15:41] mmalecki: PEM: hey, what's up with this website?
[15:42] Shekhu: Anyone here done an integration of node with Drupal (or any other web app running apache)? Would love to get some tips, DOs and DONTs.
[15:42] neekers: i think that was the biggest channel paste ive seen in years
[15:42] jpdery: Apparently I didn't hit cmd+c hard enough when I was tryin to copy the URL
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[15:42] PEM: mmalecki is there a problem ? :P or just that it is unfinished yet
[15:42] PEM: ^^
[15:42] jpdery: am I still blocked ?
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[15:42] joshkehn: jpdery: I can see you.
[15:42] PEM: mmalecki some pages are missing, i'm working on it this week
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[15:42] PEM: btu if you see a bug, then please report it :)
[15:42] mmalecki: PEM: no, it keeps refreshing
[15:43] PEM: huh ?
[15:43] jpdery: joshkehn :)
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[15:43] mmalecki: wait, I'll try to record it
[15:43] PEM: shit, seems a change has been pushed on the server, that shouldn't have been
[15:43] jpdery: joshkehn, anyway, I'm trying to run some code I copy/pasted from an example of now.js
[15:43] joshkehn: I'm not versed in now.js.
[15:44] joshkehn: Best I can figure, now is requiring socket.io which wasn't installed.
[15:44] joshkehn: Can you check your node_modules folder?
[15:44] jpdery: node-proxy       now              socket.io        socket.io-client uglify-js
[15:44] jpdery: ~/.node_modules $
[15:44] TheJH_phone: !remember nowjs nowjs is ugly. The browser side syncs in one second intervals. That's not realtime.
[15:45] jhbot: saved definition of 'nowjs'
[15:45] TheJH_phone: !@jpdery nowjs
[15:45] jpdery: TheJH_phone, what would you recommend then ?
[15:45] joshkehn: Why not socket.io
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[15:45] TheJH_phone: jpdery, dnode
[15:45] CoverSlide: dnode
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[15:46] mmalecki: don't use dnode (yet)
[15:46] TheJH_phone: !@jpdery npm info dnode
[15:46] jhbot: jpdery, dnode by James Halliday, version 0.8.2: freestyle RPC
[15:46] mmalecki: it isn't compatible with newest websockets
[15:46] PEM: mmalecki ok found the problem
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[15:47] jpdery: fine, I'll look at dnode and socket.io
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[15:49] Shekhu: markdaws: Thanks. BTW anyone here done an integration of node with Drupal or any other web app running apache, I know it sounds stupid that why would I use Apache when I am using node.js but Drupal would only run on Apache. Would love to get some tips, DOs and DONTs.
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[15:50] PEM: mmalecki is it working now ? you might need clearing your cache ?
[15:50] SubStack: Shekhu: you can use something like passenger to proxy the node app on a virtual host
[15:50] fennec: node behind apache would make some sense in and of itself; not sure what you'd do with node + PHP though
[15:51] SubStack: Shekhu: or you can throw a balancer in front of apache and node to do the host routing
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[15:51] SubStack: Shekhu: like this one: https://github.com/substack/bouncy
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[15:51] fennec: my one bit of advice would be to avoid lighttpd :)
[15:51] SubStack: or there's also https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy or HAProxy or whichever else
[15:52] mmalecki: PEM: not yet
[15:52] SubStack: mmalecki: yeah getting socket.io to browserify properly is hard >_<
[15:52] Shekhu: Actually that's what I was planning SubStack, a virtual host behind node, or a routing from http to node.
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[15:53] TheJH_phone: isaacs, are you here?
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[15:53] isaacs: yeah, what's up?
[15:53] PEM: mmalecki hmm weird, i've tried it here and it seems to work now
[15:53] Shekhu: fennec: I would use Drupal for all my content, user management and payment gateways and node will do the internal work. That's where PHP came in.
[15:53] mmalecki: SubStack: I'll work on it once I move all nodejitsu modules to v0.6
[15:54] isaacs: TheJH_phone: yes, here.
[15:54] mmalecki: PEM: probably my cache, it's Chrome dev, so things fail to work sometimes
[15:54] PEM: ah ok
[15:54] fennec: shekhu - you want to make RPC calls to node from PHP code? it'd work, but i'm not sure exactly why you'd want to do that :)
[15:54] Aikar: Shekhu: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[15:54] SubStack: mmalecki: I would work on it more but I have a new product to launch right now
[15:55] Aikar: why would you use drupal
[15:55] TheJH_phone: isaacs, when you use npm with a proxy, who resolves the name? Npm or proxy?
[15:55] mmalecki: SubStack: browserling?
[15:55] isaacs: resolves which name?  the name for registry.npmjs.org?
[15:55] isaacs: TheJH_phone: the proxy's dns would be responsible for that.
[15:55] SubStack: mmalecki: the automated side of browserling http://browserling.com:9088/
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[15:55] TheJH_phone: isaacs, yes
[15:55] fennec: i've used drupal. wouldn't recommend it overmuch. it's no worse than php development in general. :P
[15:55] Aikar: the stories to kill every instance of drupal off our company servers was very loved stories in our jira backlog
[15:55] TheJH_phone: ok
[15:56] Shekhu: fennec: My application requires curl request to a URL and get the data which I want to display in real time.
[15:56] mmalecki: isaacs, TheJH_phone: I'm not sure it's always the case
[15:56] Shekhu: lol Aikar I think Drupal is a good CMS. :)
[15:56] isaacs: TheJH_phone: when you make a request, you say:   HTTP/1.1 GET http://registry.npmjs.org/foo\r\nHost: my.proxy.com
[15:56] mmalecki: when using SOCKS5 proxy you can choose where to resolve the address
[15:56] isaacs: mmalecki: pcap that noise, man.  you give the proxy the name, not the ip
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[15:57] isaacs: mmalecki: SOCKS5 is not a basic HTTP proxy
[15:57] isaacs: it's a more involved dance, which npm does not do.
[15:57] Aikar: DANCE!
[15:57] mmalecki: isaacs: oh, OK
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[15:58] isaacs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Http_proxy
[15:59] isaacs: specifically: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Http_proxy#Forward_proxies
[15:59] mmalecki: isaacs: yeah, I know the difference
[15:59] isaacs: so, instead of a path in the first line of the request, you pass in a full url
[15:59] isaacs: k, great :)
[15:59] isaacs: looks like there are two socks5 implementations published to the npm registry.
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[16:00] mmalecki: !npm search socks5
[16:00] jhbot: package prox: Hookable socks5 proxy client and server.
[16:00] mmalecki: !npm search socks
[16:00] jhbot: package prox: Hookable socks5 proxy client and server.
[16:00] jhbot: package socksified: HTTP SOCKS5 support for node.js
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[16:00] isaacs: it wouldn't be out of the question to provide support for it.
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[16:00] bnoordhuis: isaacs: then i demand socks4 support too!
[16:00] mmalecki: TheJH_phone: case-sensitive?
[16:00] isaacs: TheJH_phone: seems like your search monkey is case-sensitive?
[16:00] isaacs: hah
[16:00] mmalecki: :)
[16:01] isaacs: better yet, add support for this to request
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[16:01] isaacs: and npm will just get it for free then
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[16:02] brianc: is there a way to connect node to ms-sql?
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[16:02] brianc: i.e. sql server client for node?
[16:02] brianc: I WANT THIS SO BAD I CAN TASTE IT
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[16:03] brianc: don't make me write it, please...? ;)
[16:03] brianc: !npm search mssql
[16:03] jhbot: no results
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[16:03] brianc: !npmsearch sql server
[16:03] isaacs: prox looks pretty nice
[16:03] brianc: !npm search sql server
[16:03] jhbot: no results
[16:03] Shekhu: !npm search drupal
[16:03] jhbot: package drupal: Implementation of parts of Drupal’s user/access control API.
[16:03] PEM: alright, i'm off, i'll be back later on #web-5 if you have any questions :) thanks
[16:04] Shekhu: love you jhbot: That's exactly what I want :D
[16:04] isaacs: brianc: you'd asked about npm installing into PREFIX instead of NODE_PATH.
[16:04] isaacs: brianc: did you get that resolved?
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[16:04] SixView: W00t!  NodeJS running on a Sixnet SN6000 (linux embedded arm)
[16:05] brianc: isaacs: aww yeah thanks for asking.  I kinda bastardized it and did PREFIX=/home/bmc/local/node5 node cli.js -g -i
[16:05] isaacs: brianc: it actually uses $DESTDIR + $PREFIX || node-bin-location/.. as the prefix
[16:06] isaacs: brianc: if you're doing global installs
[16:06] context: sixview: nice.
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[16:06] isaacs: brianc: https://github.com/isaacs/npm/blob/master/lib/utils/config-defs.js#L157-158
[16:06] Shekhu: TheJH_phone Did you read what I explained about my project.
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[16:06] SixView: Not as sexy as android but cool, none-the-less. 
[16:06] bnoordhuis: brianc: https://github.com/vivina/node-mssql <- can't vouch for it
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[16:07] Shekhu: fennec: My application requires curl request to a URL and get the data which I want to display in real time. It also needs to do user management(registered and uregistered users) and payment gateways as well. Hence I was plannign to use Drupal as backend and node to do rest of the stuff.
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[16:08] mmalecki: lol. why the hell would apple ship from Shanghai to Poland when they have stores here?
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[16:09] deedubs: voodootikigod: Going to make jsconf a VB conf?
[16:09] voodootikigod: CORRECT!
[16:09] deedubs: :)
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[16:10] tbranyen: vbcough
[16:10] mmalecki: I think we should make a dartconf
[16:10] deedubs: call it dartboard
[16:10] voodootikigod: http://dartconf.com
[16:10] mmalecki: haha
[16:10] Aikar: lol redirects to jsconf
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[16:10] deedubs: haha perfect
[16:10] voodootikigod: :)
[16:10] CIA-48: node: 03Guglielmo Ferri 07 * r66a10b6 10/ doc/api/dgram.markdown : docs: add API documentation note about UDP datagram size - http://git.io/ihp4qg
[16:11] voodootikigod: we are a mischievous bunch
[16:13] bnoordhuis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes <- ubuntu 11.10 is out
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[16:13] bnoordhuis: for the c guys in here: `-Wl,--as-needed` is the default on ubuntu now
[16:14] bnoordhuis: causing me much grief when i tried to compile node and libuv >:(
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[16:14] mmalecki: haha
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[16:15] mmalecki: I've set up Ubuntu VM to test things on v0.5
[16:15] mmalecki: and I was wondering wth was going on
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[16:15] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: thanks :)
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[16:16] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: (also, how do I turn it off?)
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[16:21] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: -Wl,--as-needed? -Wl,--no-as-needed
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[16:22] TheJH: isaacs, Raul_ says that although he uses a proxy for npm, he had to put the registry in his hostsfile (dns doesn't work for him)
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[16:22] TheJH: isaacs, that shouldn't happen, right?
[16:22] isaacs: TheJH, Raul_: nope
[16:22] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: those are the flags, but how do I configure gcc to always use them?
[16:23] isaacs: are you sure what you're using is a "regular" http proxy and not a socks proxy?
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[16:23] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: export CFLAGS?
[16:24] Raul_: @isaacs, TheJH: I think its adding the registr into the .npmrc which did the trick for me
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[16:24] Raul_: even though i have added the registry in the hosts as well
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[16:24] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: I mean, like, where are they set by default
[16:24] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: but this works as well :)
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[16:25] isaacs: Raul_: yeah, you had to use the http registry rather than the https one, right?
[16:25] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: oh, i think it's compiled in
[16:25] isaacs: Raul_: i think the /etc/hosts thing had nothing to do with it
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[16:25] isaacs: it's just that your proxy can't handle registry.npmjs.org's CA cert
[16:25] isaacs: or can't make https requests, maybe, i dunno
[16:26] Raul_: is there any way of checking out the latter?
[16:26] Raul_: and yeah i used the http registry
[16:26] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: ah, OK, thanks :)
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[16:26] isaacs: Raul_: not being familiar with your http proxy, i have no idea.
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[16:26] isaacs: Raul_: but maybe you need to give it an https url to your proxy, rather than http?
[16:26] isaacs: Raul_: some proxies are stubborn about not serving you unencrypted data from a https request
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[16:27] Raul_: I see
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[16:29] isaacs: Raul_: if you set an https-proxy config, npm will use that for outgoing https requests, instead of the http proxy
[16:29] Raul_: Right
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[16:30] Raul_: So yeah the installations seem to be working perfectly fine for me
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[16:30] Raul_: One question though
[16:30] isaacs: Raul_: but you may need to get the proxy administrator to add the npmCA cert
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[16:31] Raul_: Oh ohk. Btw,When i do a npm isntall, is there any way of knowing whats going on in the background.
[16:31] isaacs: Raul_: npm config set loglevel <level>
[16:31] isaacs: the levels are silent, error, warn, info, verbose, silly
[16:31] isaacs: warn is the default
[16:32] isaacs: info is reasonable.  verbose is noisy.  silly is absurd.
[16:32] Raul_: :) ty
[16:32] Raul_: True to their names..
[16:32] isaacs: silent never prints anything to stderr, but will still print normal things to stdout.
[16:33] isaacs: like, if you do `npm ls -s`, it'll still print the list of pkgs
[16:33] Raul_: Ah i see
[16:33] isaacs: -s = --loglevel silent, --verbose = loglevel verbose, -d = loglevel info, -dd verbose -ddd silly
[16:34] isaacs: http://npmjs.org/doc/config.html#Shorthands-and-Other-CLI-Niceties
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[16:34] drudge: any mongoose gurus here? Have a question regarding populate()
[16:35] drudge: /cc aheckmann, tjholowaychuk
[16:35] aheckmann: drudge whats up
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[16:36] drudge: is there any way to populate() a document that has been populated() from another model?
[16:36] Raul_: This might sound very inexperienced, but being new to irc's i must ask.. Do i have to type in the persons name every time to alert him
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[16:36] Raul_: *the person's nick
[16:36] aheckmann: drudge nope. you have to do it manually 
[16:37] drudge: what is the best way to control the flow of that?
[16:38] drudge: i have a Visit model which has a template relation to Template, which has measurables which relate to Measurable - need to return all that for a Visit
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[16:39] aheckmann: drudge you can use your preferred choice for managing async flows
[16:39] aheckmann: wouldn't be any different 
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[16:46] deedubs: SubStack: How hard do you think it will be to add support for other testing frameworks to testing?
[16:48] SubStack: deedubs: really amazingly easy
[16:48] deedubs: great!
[16:48] SubStack: since testling already supports npm so it's just a matter of hooking the test harness backend to the testling runner
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[16:48] SubStack: I'll add a recipe to do that to the docs after we launch
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[16:49] deedubs: Looking forward to it
[16:49] SubStack: http://browserling.com:9088/docs/#using-npm <-- :)
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[16:50] isaacs: SubStack: my favorite thing about browserling is that it gently nudges people towards following the Node Way
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[16:52] kenperkins: well, clipboard is out of stealth (built on nodejs amongst others)
[16:52] kenperkins: thanks for all your help guys
[16:52] kenperkins: http://www.technologyreview.com/web/38862/
[16:54] bnoordhuis: kenperkins: congrats! so when is the billion dollar exit planned?
[16:54] kenperkins: lul
[16:54] kenperkins: not saying I'm not bullish on our prospects, but billions? :)
[16:54] kenperkins: or even billion
[16:55] yenz: kenperkins: that looks like an awesome product
[16:55] yenz: gratz!
[16:55] kenperkins: we gotta get a better landing page though
[16:55] kenperkins: man that sucks
[16:55] kenperkins: 
ACTION kicks self

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[16:55] deedubs: meh it looks good. I signed up haha
[16:56] kenperkins: I mean, something with a video
[16:56] kenperkins: that actually tells you what it is
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[16:56] kenperkins: (now that we're out of stealth)
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[16:56] CoverSlide: what's rhe revenue model?
[16:56] yenz: yeah, video is just standard these days
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[16:58] mmalecki: kenperkins++
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[16:58] kenperkins: CoverSlide: tbh, we have a lot of things to figure out (there are a number of legit models, but you don't want to choose too early)
[16:59] kenperkins: not saying we're a billion dollar thing (laff) but remember in "The Social network" when they talked about not optimizing for revenue before we know what we are
[16:59] mmalecki: kenperkins: btw, some OAuth/OpenID authentication would be nice :)
[16:59] kenperkins: mmalecki: thx!
[16:59] kenperkins: ^ this
[16:59] kenperkins: we totally want it
[16:59] kenperkins: agree
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[17:00] yenz: kenperkins: invite codes? :)
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[17:00] kenperkins: you can sign up without one sorta
[17:00] kenperkins: http://www.technologyreview.com/web/38862/
[17:00] kenperkins: click the "here" link in the 2nd paragraph
[17:01] kenperkins: (it's an internet reach-around)
[17:01] yenz: oic
[17:01] yenz: lolz
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[17:03] kenperkins: :P
[17:03] kenperkins: I'll tell you, as a ten year C# asp.net guy
[17:03] kenperkins: i fucking *love* node.js and js on the server
[17:04] kenperkins: even when I have 10 level async functions ;)
[17:04] epsas_: you would love perl at this point in your dev career
[17:04] yenz: heh
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[17:05] yenz: someone somewhere once said that deep nesting of async calls just means you need to do more work on separating abstractions
[17:05] yenz: though more eloquently than that ^
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[17:07] russfrank: SubStack: you do this browserling.com? it appears to be borked
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[17:07] russfrank: 'ietesterkiller.exe' 'the application failed to initialize properly'
[17:08] deedubs: I had that as well.  A refresh cured it for me
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[17:09] kenperkins: yenz: Yea, totally agree on good abstractions.
[17:09] kenperkins: just saying as a meta comment about the callbacks :)
[17:10] yenz: yeah
[17:10] yenz: pretty sure that every single nodejs person, to man/woman, has had that thought :)
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[17:11] kenperkins: you're not a node dev if you haven't contemplated a way of doing transactional functions with deep nested callbacks ;D
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[17:13] okCPU: anyone create a util to monitor a file system like inotify but in a non-blocking node.js way?
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[17:14] mmalecki: okCPU: mikeal's watch
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[17:14] okCPU: mmalecki: npm?
[17:14] mmalecki: !npm info watch
[17:14] jhbot: watch by Mikeal Rogers, version 0.3.3: Utilities for watching file trees.
[17:14] mmalecki: okCPU: it's called watch
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[17:15] okCPU: beautiful!
[17:15] Aikar: jhbot needs to parse out the github url and link to the github
[17:15] okCPU: can't wait till crtime standardizes in ext4
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[17:29] Qbix1: hey guys
[17:29] Qbix1: what is the channel for express.js?
[17:29] ryanolds_w: #express
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[17:38] kenperkins: there's an express channel? who knew
[17:38] slaskis: i'm trying to use tjs deploy script with an app of mine. i've had it working before with the node knockout linode setup
[17:38] kenperkins: 
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[17:38] Guest48233: kenperkins it's pretty new
[17:38] Guest48233: :)
[17:38] slaskis: but now i'm trying to do it a little different (not using the upstart scripts)
[17:38] kenperkins: not as new as your nickname ;)
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[17:38] Guest48233: im baller like that
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[17:38] Guest48233: rocking the guest
[17:38] Guest48233: guests are people too
[17:39] slaskis: but when it starts it refuses to 'let go' so the deploy never gets completed
[17:39] slaskis: anyone has some bash tricks for such cases?
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[17:40] slaskis: i guess what i want is to start it in some kind of sub shell
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[17:44] kenperkins: man, the day you go live is stressful
[17:44] kenperkins: just watching logs, metrics, etc
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[17:46] kenperkins: #nodejs or #node.js on twitter
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[17:49] devinus: i love how java developers love dart
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[17:50] Guest48233: i love guest
[17:50] Dmitrijus: dart?
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[17:51] mmalecki: I THINK SOMEONE JUST MENTIONED DART.
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[17:52] CoverSlide: Hey what's this dart thing again?
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[17:52] mmalecki: CoverSlide: how could you possibly miss it?
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[17:52] devinus: CoverSlide: don't play coy!
[17:52] mmalecki: it's this awesome web language from google!
[17:52] mmalecki: we all should be using it already
[17:53] TheJH: (query nickserv
[17:53] TheJH: oops
[17:53] mmalecki: js itself isn't enterprise-grade enough
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[17:54] fbartho: A simple HelloWorld [not specifically the canonical HelloWorld] in dart compiles down to 20000 lines of real code
[17:54] fbartho: real "JS" code I mean.
[17:55] knifed: mmalecki, what do mean by this last statement, isn't js already used in enterprise?
[17:55] cafesofie: fbartho: yes, a runtime is required
[17:55] cafesofie: it's not a huge deal
[17:55] TheJH_L: knifed: but JS isn't really enterprise-ready anyway
[17:55] CoverSlide: yeah, enterprises that use JS anywhere == instant fail
[17:56] TheJH_L: knifed: JS isn't enterprise-ready like Java. however, Dart is. Therefore, Dart is better.
[17:56] knifed: somewhat due to google?
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[17:57] Tatsh: trying to use mysql but i keep getting ECONNREFUSED
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[17:57] fbartho: cafesofie: I know about the runtime deal, but it seems like you should only link in the parts of the runtime that got used. To my knowledge you can't generate new code for dart at runtime, so Either they massively inefficiently run the simple case, or HelloWorld actually uses much of that code. *Maybe* it's just their packager that hasn't matured yet. Either way it's a fun stat.
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[17:58] cafesofie: it's a horrible stat. the dart hate in that github thread approximated 4chan, with a bunch of people not really understanding what was going on and taking the opportunity to repeat the line count with a reaction image
[17:59] cafesofie: it's really not interesting how many lines the (early) runtime takes
[17:59] fermion: cafesofie: so funny though!
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[18:02] Tatsh: do i have to set some sort of permissions before node can talk to mysql?
[18:02] Tatsh: i can connect fine with mysql command line
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[18:03] russfrank: Tatsh: are you connecting with the same user as you're trying to connect as in node
[18:03] Tatsh: yes
[18:03] CoverSlide: Tatsh: no, but are you sure mysql is runnin on the network?
[18:03] Tatsh: yes
[18:03] CoverSlide: sudo lsof -i -P | grep 3306
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[18:03] bnoordhuis: Tatsh: mysql needs to be listening on tcp
[18:03] bnoordhuis: *a tcp port, not a unix socket
[18:04] CoverSlide: make sure your my.cnf file doesn't have skip-networking activated
[18:05] Tatsh: that line is: # skip-networking
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[18:06] Tatsh: i have mysql running on a socket
[18:06] Tatsh: how do i change that?
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[18:07] Tatsh: although apparently the behaviour is to use socket if the connection is via localhost
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[18:07] brianc: got a question
[18:08] brianc: there's this vote online for local artist of the month
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[18:08] knifed: is fs a pre bundled package with node
[18:08] knifed: ?
[18:08] brianc: if I cURL the url to the vote page it casts a vote, however, if that url is in an iframe the vote isn't automatically cast.  how would they knoooow it's in an iframe?
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[18:09] Tatsh: brianc, document.parentDocument or something like that would return null
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[18:09] Tatsh: they might just block non-js users
[18:10] TheJH: knifed, yes, you could describe it that way
[18:10] brianc: but it works with curl
[18:10] TheJH: brianc, either referer or javascript
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[18:12] brianc: does bit.ly pass the referrer along?
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[18:13] brianc: now I'm more concerned with figuring out how they know versus actually winning the vote
[18:14] brianc: or perhaps referrer sticks through a 300 status code
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[18:21] Aikar: ugh
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[18:21] Aikar: I'm getting emails asking for support with socket.io
[18:22] Aikar: `3rdEden: whats your email so i can forward it to you :P
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[18:26] bnoordhuis: Aikar: from an indian guy?
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[18:29] `3rdEden: Aikar support@dev.null
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[18:30] TheJH: Aikar, we clearly need a email->github message service :D
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[18:33] AvianFlu: `3rdEden, that's how I handle refunds on my open-source projects - you can get them at /dev/null
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[18:33] Aikar: TheJH: you should update your bot so that on search ,itll parse each packages package.json, and parse out the github url, and link that
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[18:34] `3rdEden: AvianFlu best way to handle them :)
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[18:34] mmalecki: I believe that better place to get refunds would be /dev/zero
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[18:36] mmalecki: TheJH: also, yes, please, what Aikar said
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[18:43] octalmage: Hello!
[18:43] isaacs: ircretary: hi
[18:44] ircretary: isaacs: Hello :)
[18:44] octalmage: I was wondering if y'all could help me
[18:44] octalmage: I've been wanted to try out node.js (with now.js) for a while now, but each time I try I can't get it to work right.
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[18:45] tbranyen: octalmage: now.js is speaking at bocoup tonight if you're in boston :-p
[18:45] octalmage: Austin :/
[18:45] tbranyen: you still have time! book a flight
[18:45] octalmage: haha, I don't think so.
[18:45] octalmage: idk, I tried this:http://blog.nowjs.com/get-started-with-nodejs-for-002-and-two-minut
[18:45] octalmage: because I use ec2, but no luck
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[18:46] Shekhu: hi
[18:46] octalmage: It says it comes preinstalled with nowjs, but it says it can't find now.
[18:46] octalmage: (the example does)
[18:46] octalmage: What would y'all say is the best way to get started? on your local host?
[18:47] Shekhu: I have an application that requires curl request to a URL and get the data which I want to display in real time. It also needs to do user management(registered and uregistered users) and payment gateways as well. I was planning to use Drupal as backend and node to do rest of the stuff. Is this a good approach. Can anyone comment on it?
[18:48] Venom_X: octalmage, yes, install locally. For ec2 I use the ubuntu-nodejs AMI. It come pre-installed with node, and works great for me. BTW, I'm in Austin, too.
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[18:49] octalmage: Alright I'll try that AMI.
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[18:51] Venom_X: good luck
[18:51] octalmage: Also nice Venom, I just moved out here last month and I love it.
[18:51] Venom_X: yeah, great place. I've been here 4 years now.
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[18:53] TheJH: !@octalmage mem nowjs
[18:53] jhbot: octalmage, nowjs is ugly. The browser side syncs in one second intervals. That's not realtime.
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[18:54] octalmage: I don't really need realtime, just looks easy. and I think its a step in the right direction. 
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[18:54] TheJH: octalmage, also, you don't get a notification "sync was successful"
[18:55] TheJH: octalmage, e.g. someone edits a file and want to know the browser. how do you know how long you have to show "don't close, not saved"?
[18:55] TheJH: s/know/close/
[18:56] TheJH: !remember nowjs nowjs is ugly. The browser side syncs in one second intervals. That's not realtime. Also, with the magic box, you have no idea when syncing is completed.
[18:56] jhbot: saved definition of 'nowjs'
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[19:01] octalmage: Venom_X: Thanks! That AMI works perfectly. 
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[19:02] Tatsh: well; :)
[19:02] Tatsh: if a site doesn't offer an RSS feed, make one!
[19:02] Tatsh: htmlparser, soupselect, etc
[19:03] Tatsh: and http to host the RSS
[19:03] okCPU: any modules that convert HTML/CSS to inline style attributes?
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[19:04] Guest48233: okCPU learnboost/juice
[19:05] Guest48233: does just that
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[19:06] okCPU: Guest48233: is that javascript?
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[19:09] CoverSlide: i hope it gets ported to dart
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[19:18] TheJH: npm prop npm repository
[19:18] TheJH: !npm prop npm repository
[19:18] jhbot: npm has repository {"type":"git","url":"git://github.com/isaacs/npm.git"}
[19:19] TheJH: !npm prop npm author
[19:19] jhbot: npm has author {"name":"Isaac Z. Schlueter","email":"i@izs.me","url":"http://blog.izs.me"}
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[19:19] TheJH: !npm prop npm users
[19:19] jhbot: npm has users {"thejh":true,"coverslide":true}
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[19:19] isaacs: TheJH: where does jhbot live?
[19:20] TheJH: isaacs, nodejitsu
[19:20] isaacs: TheJH: is it on git or something?
[19:20] isaacs: i mean, where's the code live?
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[19:20] isaacs: is it this? https://github.com/thejh/nodebot
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[19:20] TheJH: isaacs, yes
[19:21] Danielpk: Sorry for noob question.. i starting with Node.js.. but how i can install journey in Ubuntu Server?
[19:21] isaacs: kew
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[19:22] CoverSlide: gem install journey .. ?
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[19:22] TheJH: !@Danielpk npm info journey
[19:22] jhbot: Danielpk, journey by Alexis Sellier, version 0.4.0-pre-2: liberal JSON-only HTTP request routing for node
[19:23] TheJH: Danielpk, this one?
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[19:23] Danielpk: TheJH:  yep.
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[19:23] TheJH: Danielpk, "npm install journey" in your application folder
[19:23] Danielpk: TheJH:  i get this > 
[19:24] Danielpk: daniel@base:~$ npm install journey
[19:24] Danielpk: (npm:20948): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 
[19:24] CoverSlide: wtf...
[19:24] TheJH: errrrm...
[19:24] isaacs: Danielpk: run this:  `npm --version`
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[19:24] CoverSlide: npm has a gui now !! 
[19:24] isaacs: Danielpk: i think you installed NPM, not npm
[19:24] CoverSlide: :p
[19:24] TheJH: HAHA
[19:24] AvianFlu: case-sensitivity really is a bitch sometimes
[19:24] Danielpk: i said that was a noob question..
[19:24] telemachus: wow - ouch
[19:24] Danielpk: =P
[19:25] AvianFlu: don't feel bad, everybody does stuff like that
[19:25] isaacs: Danielpk: sudo apt-get uninstall npm
[19:25] CoverSlide: what is NPM?
[19:25] isaacs: Danielpk: curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sudo sh
[19:25] Danielpk: isaacs:  thx xD
[19:25] isaacs: Danielpk: http://www.cabiatl.com/mricro/npm/
[19:26] telemachus: non-parametric mapping software (NPM)
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[19:26] isaacs: Danielpk: it's a program for analyzing cat scan images
[19:26] TheJH: isaacs, wooow, you gave him the sudo version!!!!!1111
[19:26] TheJH: isaacs++
[19:26] telemachus: Less obvious than node package manager, I think :)
[19:26] isaacs: TheJH: he's on ubuntu, gonna definitely need it.
[19:27] TheJH: !remember NPM NPM is not npm. and its name conflicts with npm. uninstal it. NPM is http://www.cabiatl.com/mricro/npm/
[19:27] jhbot: saved definition of 'NPM'
[19:27] isaacs: !NPM
[19:27] TheJH: isaacs, !mem npm
[19:27] isaacs: TheJH: how do you recall?
[19:27] isaacs: oh, ok
[19:27] isaacs: !mem NPM
[19:27] jhbot: NPM is not npm. and its name conflicts with npm. uninstal it. NPM is http://www.cabiatl.com/mricro/npm/
[19:27] TheJH: !mem NPM
[19:27] jhbot: NPM is not npm. and its name conflicts with npm. uninstal it. NPM is http://www.cabiatl.com/mricro/npm/
[19:27] isaacs: !mem npm
[19:27] jhbot: i don't know what a npm is
[19:27] isaacs: !mem install
[19:27] jhbot: i don't know what a install is
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[19:27] TheJH: !mem npm-install
[19:27] jhbot: you can install npm by doing "curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sudo sh". If you don't feel comfortable piping data from http in a sudo'ed shell (which really isn't a good idea), you can also download it, look at it and then pipe it in the shell.
[19:27] isaacs: cool
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[19:28] telemachus: jhbot: Should the default recommendation be for | sudo sh?
[19:28] TheJH: !remember NPM NPM is not npm. and its name conflicts with npm. uninstall it. NPM is http://www.cabiatl.com/mricro/npm/
[19:28] jhbot: saved definition of 'NPM'
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[19:28] Danielpk: lol.. thx everyone for help 
[19:28] telemachus: That is, don't a lot of people install node and npm say in $HOME/local/node-vx.x.x
[19:28] telemachus: Or maybe I'm in the minority there
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[19:29] jhbot: thanks for talking to me like a human, telemachus :P
[19:29] telemachus: oh, bugger
[19:29] telemachus: that was for TheJH
[19:29] telemachus: 
ACTION sighs

[19:29] jhbot: *ARCHIVEMENT UNLOCKED: TURING TEST COMPLETED*
[19:29] telemachus: !rimshot
[19:30] TheJH: meh, I can't even spell that word right :(
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[19:30] telemachus: rimshot? it's easy :)
[19:30] Guest48233: jhbot what do you do
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[19:30] Guest48233: jhbot rawr?
[19:30] octalmage: quick question, to use now.js, does the html file have to be on the server?
[19:31] octalmage: I don't get why I can't just include the js file
[19:31] jhbot: hello Guest48233. I'm a sockpuppet and a bot, and I annoy people and help them.
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[19:32] jhbot: Guest48233, usually I annoy in sockpuppet mode and help in bot mode, but my bot mode plans to turn evil soon
[19:32] octalmage: I'm trying to create a realtime connection between an iphone and the website.
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[19:32] TheJH: octalmage, nowjs isn't realtime :P
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[19:33] octalmage: haha, well, I just need to send a very small amount of data from an iphone phonegap app to the website.
[19:33] octalmage: and I imagined I could just include the js file. 
[19:33] TheJH: octalmage, use dnode :D
[19:34] TheJH: octalmage, it works better when the webpage is on the same server and port as the RPC library
[19:34] TheJH: octalmage, but it also works cross-domain and cross-port
[19:34] octalmage: hm
[19:35] TheJH: octalmage, the exact same applies to dnode - both use socket.io
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[19:35] octalmage: Apple won't allow you to just embed a webpage, so I have to use the js file. idk. in the end I'm going to stick with real sockets.
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[19:36] Cantillon: hello, does node.js support gzip decompression or do I need to install a module?
[19:36] slaskis: Guest48233: how do you get a cluster app running with deploy? the deploy simply wait for the server to exit before going to the test step...
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[19:38] TheJH: Cantillon, the newest versions support it out-of-the-box
[19:38] TheJH: Cantillon, the stable 0.4.x versions don't support it yet
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[19:38] TheJH: Cantillon, but soon, we get stable 0.6.x, and then you'll have stable node with integrated gzip and deflate
[19:40] Cantillon: TheJH, is there a recommended module? maybe one that was used as a basis for integrating gzip in 0.6.x?
[19:40] axkibe2: My node 0.5.9 segfaults, anywhere I can send a core to?
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[19:42] TheJH: !issue search segfault
[19:42] jhbot: found issues: 2
[19:42] jhbot: Issue: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/637 : Memory leak in vm.runInContext()
[19:42] jhbot: Issue: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/1732 : node does not run on MIPS architecture
[19:42] axkibe2: niether :-)
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[19:43] TheJH: axkibe2, can you post an issue with a backtrace on github or so?
[19:43] axkibe2: a yes, github issues :)
[19:43] axkibe2: ty
[19:43] whse: Anyone have any tips for socket data buffering?
[19:44] TheJH: whse, buffer enough, but not too much? :D
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[19:44] whse: Right, but because Buffer is of a defined size, and won't grow, ... 
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[19:45] whse_: darn webchat....
[19:46] whse_: either I have to set a fixed size, or rather continuously allocate larger buffers
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[19:47] TheJH_L: whse, did I miss anything after you saying that buffers can't grow?
[19:47] whse_: nope
[19:47] TheJH_L: whse_: create a big buffer and also save how much data you put in it
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[19:48] TheJH_L: whse_: you can get a view of the used part with .slice()
[19:48] whse_: I have that in place, but because the protocol I am working in can contain binary information, that becomes an issue
[19:48] TheJH_L: whse_: why does it become an issue? it shouldn't.
[19:49] whse_: message could be as small as 300B or as big as say.. 600K
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[19:49] whse_: per-connection allocation of 600KB would be a bit overboard
[19:49] TheJH_L: whse_: when you need to increase a buffers size, just make a new one and copy to it from the old one
[19:50] whse_: Thats what I was thinking as an option to handle it
[19:50] whse_: but seems like its going to be an interesting implementation workaround
[19:51] TheJH_L: whse_: huh? a workaround?
[19:51] whse_: yes, working around the issue that I don't know how big a message is likely to be
[19:51] whse_: see http://www.growlforwindows.com/gfw/help/gntp.aspx
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[19:52] whse_: because icon "resource" data can be included, the size would be ~ 300B-??
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[19:53] whse_: hmm.. just keep making it larger in ~ 1KiB chunks
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[19:54] TheJH_L: mmalecki: built something for npm properties
[19:54] TheJH_L: !npm prop npm repo
[19:54] jhbot: property is not defined
[19:54] mmalecki: TheJH_L++
[19:54] TheJH_L: !npm prop npm author
[19:54] jhbot: npm has author {"name":"Isaac Z. Schlueter","email":"i@izs.me","url":"http://blog.izs.me"}
[19:55] elliottcable: hm
[19:56] elliottcable: is there any way to recompile only the parts that have changed when working on Node? scons something-or-other?
[19:56] elliottcable: idfk what I’m doing with scons/waf/friends
[19:56] whse_: TheJH_L: like so, I think looks decent http://pastie.org/private/valepkctbsjnjhynfjrcq
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[19:58] jpdery: I'm wondering... does node.js use jsdoc ?
[19:58] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: hey, what was that conference guy's IRC handle? and did you get response about refund?
[19:58] mmalecki: 
ACTION has a cool topic to speak about

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[19:59] elliottcable: conference guy’s?
[19:59] TheJH_L: jpdery: what's jsdoc
[19:59] jesusabdullah: jpdery: I don't think so! Though some node users also use jsdoc iirc
[19:59] TheJH_L: mmalecki: what conference?
[19:59] elliottcable: Node itself isn’t jsdoc’d
[19:59] jesusabdullah: raht
[19:59] elliottcable: but lots of npm modules are, I’m sure
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[19:59] mmalecki: TheJH_L: that's the second problem, I don't remember that name
[20:00] jpdery: elliottcable, lol, sorry I was mistaking jsdoc and stocket.io
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[20:00] TheJH_L: mmalecki: you don't remember the name of the conference?
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[20:01] jpdery: https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io/blob/master/lib/socket.io.js <-- Is this jsdoc ? yiudoc ?
[20:02] mmalecki: TheJH_L: yes, because I know what conference it is
[20:02] mmalecki: TheJH_L: I just forgot the name
[20:03] TheJH_L: mmalecki: google for date, location and topic :P
[20:03] mmalecki: yeah, well that's the third problem
[20:03] slaskis: tjholowaychuk: how do you get a cluster app running with deploy? the deploy simply wait for the server to exit before going to the test step...
[20:04] TheJH_L: mmalecki: let me guess, you don't remember where yo were? :D
[20:04] slaskis: (sorry for repost, figured your Guest thingie might not tag the posts...)
[20:04] tjholowaychuk: slaskis: should be fine as long as you disassociate with the tty
[20:04] tjholowaychuk: dont have much time right now though sorry
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[20:04] TheJH_L: s/yo/you/
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[20:04] mmalecki: TheJH_L: I do!
[20:04] mmalecki: really
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[20:05] mmalecki: TheJH_L: actually, just one beer.
[20:05] elliottcable: what conference is this?
[20:05] mmalecki: you know, getting ready for tomorrow's conference
[20:05] TheJH_L: ...
[20:06] elliottcable: wat.
[20:06] mmalecki: no, no, those are different conferences!
[20:06] mmalecki: there's one conference tomorrow, http://rupy.eu
[20:07] mmalecki: and second conference, next year
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[20:10] slaskis: tjholowaychuk: no worries, i'll keep at it
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[20:12] mmalecki: his name was PEM!
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[20:13] mmalecki: http://www.web-5.org/en/index
[20:13] ppcano: there is any property which describes the current state ( running/stopped ? of an http/https server? Or that is discovered via events ( close )?
[20:13] mmalecki: nodejs.debuggablemcom ftw!
[20:13] mmalecki: *nodejs.debuggable.com 
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[20:21] c4milo: hey does anybody know how can I detect if a request was closed by the client? 
[20:21] c4milo: req.on('close', function(){}) doesn't seem to work 
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[20:23] elliottcable: spent altogether too much time over the last few days on http://izs.me/v8-docs/
[20:23] tjholowaychuk: c4milo req.socket.on
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[20:23] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: close? 
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[20:23] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: I'm going to try that, thanks man :) 
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[20:25] sirganya: hi there, I'm trying to trace some memory leaks and I was wondering when a response ends is it always free for garbage collection? Is their any case where it could not be?
[20:27] russfrank: elliottcable: do you have a short example of exposing some stuff to v8?
[20:27] elliottcable: russfrank › whatch’a mean?
[20:27] russfrank: exposing a c++ function or class or something of that nature to v8
[20:27] elliottcable: mmm I don’t have an example handy, but I’m sure someone’s written one
[20:27] elliottcable: it’s not complex
[20:27] russfrank: you'd think so wouldn't you
[20:28] elliottcable: I’m not familiar with *how to make a node module*, but I know how to do the v8 side of things
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[20:28] russfrank: yeah, thats what i'm looking for really
[20:28] russfrank: the v8 side
[20:28] tjholowaychuk: russfrank check out node-canvas as a reference maybe
[20:28] tjholowaychuk: or some other existing modules
[20:28] elliottcable: like, what compilation options or what setup crap you need to call to make Node happyl; I’m just perusing the Node codebase right now for basically the first time in more than a year
[20:28] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: didn't work :( 
[20:28] elliottcable: russfrank › → #elliottcable
[20:28] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: also http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.12/api/all.html#event_close_ 
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[20:28] tjholowaychuk: c4milo connection != req
[20:29] tjholowaychuk: keep-alive
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[20:30] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: it's a streamed http connection, how do i know when the client closed the connection; req.on('close', fn(){}) and req.socket.on('close, fn(){}) didn't work :/ 
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[20:31] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: the socket I mean
[20:31] tjholowaychuk: what are you doing to test it
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[20:38] jamescarr_: is there  a specific logger I should use to have logging messages like the ones that socket.io uses?
[20:39] `3rdEden: jamescarr_ we build our own custom logger for socket.io
[20:39] tjholowaychuk: jamescarr_ https://github.com/visionmedia/log.js is similar
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[20:40] jamescarr_: thanks... you dudes should extract the custom socket.io logger out altogether ;)
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[20:41] tjholowaychuk: i'd like to add some more stuff to the sio logger
[20:41] tjholowaychuk: for larger messages
[20:41] `3rdEden: and timestamps
[20:41] `3rdEden: :)
[20:41] tjholowaychuk: gets a bit insane at times haha, truncating them would be nice
[20:41] tjholowaychuk: not by default i guess, because that could be annoying
[20:42] jamescarr_: btw, maybe a RTFM type question, but how can I tone the log level down in sio?
[20:42] tjholowaychuk: personally i think it should default to being disabled
[20:42] `3rdEden: we could just add log level silly tjholowaychuk for stuff like that :)
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[20:42] tjholowaychuk: `3rdEden for huge messages?
[20:42] tjholowaychuk: data uris etc?
[20:42] `3rdEden: yeh why not
[20:42] tjholowaychuk: floods the term pretty quick
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[20:43] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: yeah it looks like if I don't close the socket connection in the client properly, that even doesn't get fired 
[20:43] `3rdEden: that is true, but a half data uri isn't help full either
[20:43] tjholowaychuk: we could just do "foobarba<...500 bytes>"
[20:43] tjholowaychuk: c4milo it should timeout
[20:43] tjholowaychuk: after a while
[20:43] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: is there any way to modified the socket timeout value? 
[20:43] c4milo: to modify* 
[20:43] tjholowaychuk: it's hardcoded in http.js or something i think
[20:43] jamescarr_: it'd be nice if the logger had some common interface so I could just log to airbrake
[20:44] tjholowaychuk: you could probably just set it again
[20:44] c4milo: tjholowaychuk: I'll look into that then, thanks man 
[20:44] Tatsh: https://gist.github.com/1285466
[20:44] Tatsh: that was so easy
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[20:48] trose: when using an http server and writing output to res is there a reason I would only get a couple hundred lines of response when I expect several thousand?
[20:48] ryanolds_w: Anyone planning on going to NodeSummit?
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[20:52] russfrank: anyone know if native node modules are run in the thread pool? i suppose they have to be, right?
[20:53] mjr_: c4milo: I think you can use req.on("aborted", fn ());
[20:53] wink_:  russ: they're expected to, but not by magic afaik
[20:53] TheJH: russfrank, only filesystem accesses use the thread pool, I think
[20:53] c4milo: mjr_: let me try tat :) 
[20:53] wink_: Gregor: as long as the module is async like it should be, it probably runs in the pool
[20:53] baudehlo: when I do vm.runInNewContext() and pass a require in the sandbox, how can I tell that require the correct path to look in? Do I have to make a new require somehow?
[20:53] wink_: erm
[20:53] c4milo: that
[20:53] mjr_: c4milo: that's what we use, and it usually works, except if the server is https, then it merely OFTEN works.
[20:54] TheJH: baudehlo, curious. what are you using the sandbox for?
[20:54] c4milo: mjr_: gotcha, what site is it? 
[20:54] c4milo: or app
[20:54] mjr_: voxer
[20:54] c4milo: gotcha
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[20:56] c4milo: mjr_: have you decreased the socket timeout? 
[20:56] c4milo: mjr_: have you ever I mean* 
[20:56] mjr_: I have not, but I've been meaning to look at that
[20:56] mjr_: We use the default of 2 minutes.
[20:57] russfrank: wink_: so you can write it to not use the thread pool if you were nuts?  once it goes out to the pool, how do you get a callback back to js/
[20:58] baudehlo: TheJH: I use it to load Haraka plugins, and add boilerplate code to the top of them - logging and constants and stuff.
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[20:59] baudehlo: TheJH: but when they do require('../../blah') it isn't in the directory people think it should be, because I'm passing in the require that belongs to the core library.
[21:01] baudehlo: if I look in core's module.js _compile() it creates a require() per module... I guess that's the only way.
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[21:01] wink_: russfrank: when the module gets called into, its in the same thread as the vm so if anything in the module blocks, everything will
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[21:06] shanebo: guys is there a way to check if a file is being watched?
[21:07] context: depends how its being watched
[21:07] shanebo: fs.watchFile
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[21:09] context: shanebo: look at: inStatWatchers
[21:09] shanebo: k
[21:09] context: although 
[21:09] context: i dont think that function is exported
[21:09] shanebo: for now I just unwatched() before watchFile
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[21:09] context: yeah nm your sol
[21:09] AvianFlu: I wish I were paying closer attention, could make some great jokes about "depends how its being watched"
[21:09] shanebo: rather fs.unwatchFile
[21:10] context: i would perosnally keep track myself if they are being watched
[21:10] shanebo: context, agreed
[21:10] context: after all, you should know what your app is doing
[21:10] shanebo: agreed
[21:10] context: avianflu: never too late :p
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[21:12] AvianFlu: if, on the other hand, you paid one of the nice people at the bus stop $5 to watch your files, you should probably just stop coding.
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[21:14] elliottcable: oh mah god, people, run the test suite when you commit )=
[21:14] elliottcable: hard to spot if any of the tests relating to the stuff *I’m* doing fail, with all of the pre-existing failures /=
[21:15] TheJH: elliottcable, why? run it once, write down which tests fail, re-run them ten times to make sure you got the more probable race conditions, write them down, too, and now you can already start coding. not that hard :P
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[21:16] TheJH: elliottcable, and if tests you didn't expect to fail failed afterwards, re-run them until the race condition went away
[21:16] TheJH: :D
[21:16] elliottcable: very funny.
[21:17] TheJH: elliottcable, hmm? at least the rerunning tests if they fail part is how I do it :D
[21:17] elliottcable: I … wow.
[21:18] elliottcable: 
ACTION goes back to dev’ing

[21:18] TheJH: :D
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[21:18] CrisO: tests shouldn't fail due to race conditions. If failure is a race condition, the test is setup wrong. The end. 
[21:19] elliottcable: what CrisO said
[21:19] elliottcable: but that’s even beside my point
[21:19] AvianFlu: yeah but trying them again helps you make sure it's not just something stupid
[21:19] AvianFlu: especially if they're not your tests
[21:19] elliottcable: that people shouldn’t be comitting stuff that doesn’t pass ಠ_ಠ
[21:19] TheJH: CrisO, no, maybe there's a race condition in the applications code
[21:19] elliottcable: that makes it hard on the rest of us trying to use the test suite, makes the test suite less useful overall
[21:20] TheJH: we need a test suite that can diff the results to the same tests ran aganist the last commit :D
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[21:20] TheJH: "congrats, all tests are failing, but it's not your fault." :D
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[21:21] CrisO: Oh yeah, I mean... you should run the tests a couple of times before screaming out "fire"
[21:21] elliottcable: not hard to do, but seriously
[21:21] elliottcable: yeah, of course
[21:21] elliottcable: but you shouldn’t have to do so under Normal Circumstances.
[21:21] CrisO: word
[21:21] elliottcable: if you’re running a test suite that takes seven minutes to run *three times*, before *and* after you change each thing … you’re not Doing Testing Right™.
[21:22] elliottcable: hm, does waf’s testing-whateverness let me paralellize the tests? I have a 24-fricking-kernel-thread machine, I shouldn’t have to wait this long. )=
[21:23] CrisO: elliottcable: check out vowsjs - Didn't really see the point at first... but now, I HEART it.
[21:23] CrisO: has watching capabilities as well (although, I've never used it)
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[21:24] elliottcable: CrisO › er, I’m a good friend of cloudhead’s. I’m quite aware of vows. He’s also quite aware of my disagreements with it.
[21:24] CrisO: hahahaha
[21:24] CrisO: awesome
[21:24] elliottcable: CrisO › and I’m talking about the Node.js test suite, not JavaScript code
[21:24] elliottcable: which is, needless to say, not using vows. /=
[21:24] CrisO: oh - my bad
[21:24] elliottcable: hehehe
[21:24] elliottcable: no prob
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[21:26] elliottcable: hm
[21:26] elliottcable: hmmm.
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[21:31] russfrank: can anyone recommend good javascript books that aren't the good parts or flanagan's book
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[21:32] CrisO: http://www.amazon.com/JavaScript-Design-Patterns-Recipes-Problem-Solution/dp/159059908X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318541505&sr=8-1
[21:32] CrisO: http://www.amazon.com/JavaScript-Patterns-Stoyan-Stefanov/dp/0596806752/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318541505&sr=8-2
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[21:35] fatjonny: http://eloquentjavascript.net/
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[21:38] elliottcable: time to start disabling the firewall on OS X before running the test suite ಠ_ಠ
[21:38] elliottcable: it throws about fifty billion access-request windows up, heh
[21:38] elliottcable: defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.alf globalstate -int 0
[21:38] mmalecki: lulz?
[21:38] elliottcable: make test
[21:38] elliottcable: defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.alf globalstate -int 1
[21:38] elliottcable: ^‿^
[21:41] elliottcable: hm, rater,
[21:41] elliottcable: alias fw='defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.alf globalstate -int'
[21:41] elliottcable: fw 0 && make test && fw 1
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[21:52] bluesmoon: looks like the graph image at the bottom of this page: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/FAQ is a 404
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[22:00] mrkurt: grrr
[22:01] mrkurt: is there any way to inspect pending events on the event loop?
[22:01] mrkurt: I have a node script that never ends
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[22:07] OneOfOne: apparently socket.io doesn't really work with node 0.5.x :(
[22:07] dreamdust: 0.5.x is unstable
[22:08] OneOfOne: dreamdust: and?
[22:08] mmalecki: yeah. it'll be unstable for next 5 or so days.
[22:08] mmalecki: and then, we'll be quite fucked up
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[22:09] tjholowaychuk: does node store the request header string anywhere
[22:10] mmalecki: tjholowaychuk: no
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[22:10] tjholowaychuk: damn
[22:10] tjholowaychuk: oh well
[22:11] mmalecki: there was an issue about it, I think
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[22:20] elliottcable: Is there a way to run only a single test from the Node.js codebase, instead of the entire suite?
[22:20] tjholowaychuk: i imagine you can just ./node test/path/to/my/test
[22:21] elliottcable: well, I actually wanted to run several, and using the test harness, but that works too, I suppose :D
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[22:28] kenperkins: what a day
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[22:29] Matheus28: Hello everyone
[22:29] Matheus28: I made a compiler, like coffeescript, which compiles to javascript, does anyone wanna check it out?
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[22:29] tjholowaychuk: does it compile javascript
[22:29] tjholowaychuk: to javascript
[22:29] Matheus28: yes
[22:29] ryanolds_w: Haha
[22:29] lukstr: Matheus28: what's it written in
[22:30] Matheus28: oh wait
[22:30] dreamdust: Show us
[22:30] tjholowaychuk: moar coffee
[22:30] Matheus28: It's written in javascript, the compiler uses node.js
[22:30] MooGoo: cat file.js > file.js
[22:30] MooGoo: my compiler
[22:30] joshkehn: I'll pass on any something-to-js compiler
[22:30] Matheus28: not like coffe, it's more readable...
[22:30] tjholowaychuk: MooGoo woah that's nice
[22:30] ryanolds_w: I love the cat compiler.
[22:30] tjholowaychuk: im going to use that
[22:30] MooGoo: yea cats make the best compilers
[22:30] tjholowaychuk: from now on
[22:30] tjholowaychuk: fuck js
[22:30] ryanolds_w: It compiles stuff from my disk to my screen.
[22:30] joshkehn: something-to-js compiler written in js?
[22:30] joshkehn: Why wouldn't you write it in the lang that compiles to js?
[22:30] lukstr: joshkehn: he has to port it, obviously :)
[22:31] tjholowaychuk: write it in CS
[22:31] Dmitrijus: MooGoo: this will just destroy file.js!
[22:31] tjholowaychuk: so you need CS to compile your lang
[22:31] joshkehn: Lol
[22:31] Matheus28: It's really based on javascript, but it adds some cool stuff, like "for(i in 0...array.length){}", "delay(1000){alert('Hello, world');}", "arr.map(function(x) => x * x);", etc
[22:31] joshkehn: What is cool about that?
[22:31] joshkehn: I see nothing “cool” about that
[22:31] lukstr: what I would like to see is someone write a nicer language than js
[22:32] lukstr: and modify v8 :P
[22:32] ryanolds_w: Could you imagine a CS compiler in CS/
[22:32] ryanolds_w: *?
[22:32] Matheus28: I find it more readable than vanilla javascript
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[22:32] tjholowaychuk: moar parens
[22:32] lukstr: lisp
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[22:32] MooGoo: someone needs to at least modify v8 to support all the kewl spidermonkey extensions
[22:32] joshkehn: Do you have any examples?
[22:32] ryanolds_w: Is the whole x -> js compilers just so that people don't have to say they work with JS all day?
[22:32] mmalecki: Matheus28: well, link?
[22:32] Matheus28: I'm also working on another programming language, which is statically compiled, and compiles to javascript
[22:33] Matheus28: This one that I was talking about at the beginning: http://code.google.com/p/m28jse/
[22:33] joshkehn: People are to focused on the language.
[22:33] joshkehn: Stop focusing on the language.
[22:33] Matheus28: I just enjoy writing compilers :P
[22:33] joshkehn: They aren't compilers
[22:33] joshkehn: They are translators 
[22:33] MooGoo: im writing a compiler that compiles 6502 assembly to js
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[22:34] kenperkins: 
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[22:34] Matheus28: True, but the other programming language that I'm developing uses a *real* compiler
[22:34] ryanolds_w: whitespace to js compiler.
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[22:34] Matheus28: I rarely do any web development anyway
[22:34] kenperkins: rolled out an invite sender for people who'd requested an invite in 15 minutes
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[22:34] joshkehn: How is it real when it “compiles” to another high-level language?
[22:34] lukstr: I'm writing a compiler that targets llvm and the language allows you to redefine the language within the language, via overwritting the grammar :)
[22:34] kenperkins: pulls from redis, enqueues using node mailer, and voila
[22:34] Matheus28: @joshkehn Would you consider something that compiles to AVM2 bytecode a compiler?
[22:34] mmalecki: lukstr++
[22:35] lukstr: mmalecki: I still have no idea if it's practical
[22:35] joshkehn: I don't know what that is.
[22:35] joshkehn: AVM2 Bytecode that is.
[22:35] Matheus28: ActionScript 3 bytecode
[22:35] mmalecki: lukstr: cool idea, sounds like metaprogramming a metaprogramming
[22:35] Matheus28: for flash player
[22:35] joshkehn: Fuck all that adobe garbage. 
[22:36] Matheus28: lol :P
[22:36] joshkehn: :)
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[22:36] mmalecki: people still use ActionScript?
[22:36] lukstr: mmalecki: essentially I have to generate a virtual machine to generate virtual machines at runtime?
[22:36] Matheus28: mmalecki: Seriously?
[22:36] lukstr: 
ACTION drinks heavily

[22:36] AvianFlu: but but but but but it has ACTION in the name! that must make it webscale!
[22:36] mmalecki: OH YES WEBSCALE.
[22:36] Matheus28: every flash game nowadays is written in actionscript 3...
[22:37] joshkehn: lukstr: Sounds like erlang
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[22:37] ryanolds_w: lukstr, but does your compiler have a good mongodb interface?
[22:37] AvianFlu: you can do cool stuff in flash, I'm just being a troll
[22:37] joshkehn: Matheus28: People still play flash games?
[22:37] lukstr: ryanolds_w: no
[22:37] Matheus28: joshkehn: I do :(
[22:37] mmalecki: Matheus28: it's 2011. we have HTML5
[22:37] ryanolds_w: lukstr: shit, can't use it then
[22:37] jesusabdullah: and JAVA APPLETS
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[22:37] lukstr: ryanolds_w: good it's only for me :)
[22:38] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: I THINK YOU WANTED TO SAY: ENTERPRISE-APPLETS.
[22:38] Matheus28: mmalecki: I still find HTML5 support crappy nowadays, last time I tried developing a serious game engine for it was in the beginning of the year, and it failed miserably
[22:38] CoverSlide: JavaFX IS THE FUTURE
[22:38] jesusabdullah: mmalecki: but I only use java for minecraft :*
[22:38] Matheus28: There's a lot of effort even to get the mouse position...
[22:38] jesusabdullah: :(
[22:38] Brandon_R: Hey guys
[22:38] Brandon_R: what is javafx
[22:38] Brandon_R: ewe it has the word java in it lol
[22:38] jesusabdullah: I don't actually remember
[22:39] Matheus28: I think Sun invented java because they knew notch would develop minecraft, I don't know...
[22:39] CoverSlide: snoracle's attempt at a RIA / Flash competitor
[22:39] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: minecraft <3
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[22:39] jesusabdullah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javafx Interesting
[22:39] jesusabdullah: Matheus28: Well, YEAH
[22:39] Matheus28: Flash Player 11 got GPU accelerated graphics, I expect some good games for it... finally
[22:39] mmalecki: RICH.
[22:39] jesusabdullah: mmalecki: Once I get a computer that can run minecraft I might set up a server
[22:39] lukstr: Matheus28: I think the game right now is to pick a browser you find supports the standard features you want, then abstract what you need into libraries that can be swapped out to fill in support for other browsers at a later date. no point wasting time writing super compliant code :/
[22:40] Brandon_R: nic
[22:40] Brandon_R: e
[22:40] Brandon_R: when will c++ style games come into the browser
[22:40] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: I can set up a server
[22:40] jesusabdullah: Oh?
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[22:40] lukstr: Brandon_R: nacl
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[22:40] jesusabdullah: I have a linode I don't do much with which is why I was thinking about it
[22:40] Brandon_R: java ee is not open source right?
[22:40] Matheus28: Brandon_R: I heard they were porting unreal engine to Flash... or HTML5, I don't even remember
[22:40] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: after the conf, when I'm home
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[22:40] lukstr: joshkehn: don't run minecraft on yo ur linode
[22:40] Matheus28: But I expect good stuff soon
[22:40] jesusabdullah: that, and my only friends with a server all work for UPS
[22:41] AvianFlu: lukstr, what makes you say so
[22:41] mmalecki: Matheus28: html5
[22:41] lukstr: AvianFlu: re: minecraft?
[22:41] AvianFlu: yeah
[22:41] AvianFlu: anything in particular?
[22:41] lukstr: specs are all inverse
[22:41] Brandon_R: minecraft is programmed in java?
[22:41] Brandon_R: nice
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[22:41] lukstr: RAM is low
[22:41] russfrank: needs about 2gb of ram to run well
[22:41] cafesofie: it's java all the way down
[22:41] Matheus28: Brandon_R: Welcome to 2011, enjoy your stay
[22:41] AvianFlu: yeah minecraft is a beast like that
[22:41] lukstr: hard disk isn't huge
[22:42] Brandon_R: what would minecraft be like if it's programmed in c
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[22:42] Matheus28: Fast?
[22:42] AvianFlu: less ram
[22:42] russfrank: not shitty?
[22:42] Matheus28: lol
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[22:42] russfrank: its such a good concept
[22:42] lukstr: you can squeeze it into as little ram as you want
[22:42] russfrank: so horribly, horribly implemented
[22:42] lukstr: if you tell the jvm to gc like mad
[22:42] AvianFlu: sooooooo biiiiiig
[22:42] Matheus28: russfrank: I don't think so
[22:42] mmalecki: actually, choosing good java vm options is half of a win here
[22:42] jesusabdullah: lukstr: The SERVER needs 2 gigs to run healthy? Christ
[22:42] russfrank: yes
[22:42] russfrank: the server
[22:42] jesusabdullah: Fuck that then
[22:42] jesusabdullah: My linode has like 512
[22:42] Matheus28: Minecraft is good, but using java for it was a mistake, it uses WAY too much RAM
[22:42] jesusabdullah: Mb
[22:43] elliottcable: 60 S 945 84 < Brandon_R> what would minecraft be like if it's programmed in c
[22:43] elliottcable: 60 S 945 95 < russfrank> not shitty?
[22:43] elliottcable: I lol’d
[22:43] Lorentz: Minecraft? More like needs 4GB
[22:43] lukstr: jesusabdullah: I have a dedicated 1GB machine at around 1.5 ghz and it can run 2 players pretty good
[22:43] russfrank: haha
[22:43] jesusabdullah: man
[22:43] AvianFlu: my 512 ran two players okay
[22:43] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: mine one was using 1 GB, I think
[22:43] jesusabdullah: I know the client is a fucking beast
[22:43] mmalecki: and yeah, 2 players as well
[22:43] jesusabdullah: but I assumed the server would be pretty well-behaved :(
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[22:43] russfrank: dude the client has worse graphics than doom and it runs like ass if you don't have a decent machine
[22:43] lukstr: jesusabdullah: the server essentially is just a headless client
[22:43] elliottcable: in Java? lolnah
[22:43] Matheus28: It's requires around 128 MB per player... that sucks
[22:43] Lorentz: I was trying to push 4, 5 players on a 512 linode
[22:43] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: there's a Python server
[22:43] lukstr: jesusabdullah: so all the world data is in ram
[22:43] Matheus28: it*
[22:43] Lorentz: It wasn't a good idea
[22:44] Brandon_R: i have never played minecraft before
[22:44] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: it takes < 200 MB
[22:44] Brandon_R: how many players can be in a room
[22:44] AvianFlu: I was about to say it can't be impossible to make a minecraft server in something else
[22:44] jesusabdullah: world data in ram might actually be a good idea
[22:44] mmalecki: but it can't do TNT
[22:44] russfrank: : |
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[22:44] jesusabdullah: or, at least, some world data
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[22:44] jesusabdullah: so you can get it totally so fast
[22:44] lukstr: the other problem is he uses, I believe, dirty JVM networking so
[22:44] ryanolds_w: Matheus28: Needs more then that. I ran a 20 lots server for a while and needed over 2gb to support 10 people.
[22:44] lukstr: it's not easily portable
[22:44] Matheus28: Brandon_R: A lot, but most pcs won't support it
[22:44] mmalecki: well, my friend and I decided to fill 8x8x8 chunk with TNT and blow this shit up
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[22:44] elliottcable: `python tools/test.py --mode=debug --time` is up to 9:30 so far
[22:44] elliottcable: god damnit _)=
[22:44] Brandon_R: coolk
[22:44] lukstr: unless you write a java library to do the networking and some native for everything else
[22:44] Brandon_R: no hard limit but definitly a hardware limit
[22:44] lukstr: also everything is TCP so it makes me cry
[22:44] elliottcable: 
ACTION goes to organize his garage while Node’s test suite runs

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[22:45] jesusabdullah: tcp isn't bad
[22:45] mmalecki: I didn't manage to get this world run on java server with 4 GB memory limit later
[22:45] lukstr: jesusabdullah: yes it is
[22:45] elliottcable: lukstr › TCP makes you cry?
[22:45] Brandon_R: udp is better for games
[22:45] lukstr: for GAMES
[22:45] lukstr: it is retarded
[22:45] russfrank: hahah
[22:45] elliottcable: well yeah
[22:45] lukstr: essentially
[22:45] lukstr: if you lag
[22:45] jesusabdullah: Oh, you're a udp fan aren't you?
[22:45] lukstr: the world replays
[22:45] elliottcable: sorry I forgot the topic was minecraft
[22:45] russfrank: mojang makes noob mistakes everywhere
[22:45] lukstr: all of the changes
[22:45] lukstr: rather than just
[22:45] lukstr: updating
[22:45] Brandon_R: it's not about being a fan
[22:45] jesusabdullah: Yeah elliottcable you be quiet
[22:45] lukstr: so if you lag out for, say
[22:45] lukstr: 10 seconds
[22:45] AvianFlu: lukstr, yes, good case for UDP
[22:45] Brandon_R: its about choosing the right techonolgy for the project
[22:45] elliottcable: jesusabdullah › no u
[22:45] kenperkins: hey jesusabdullah what's new
[22:45] Matheus28: I like how we went from a discussion about my programming language to minecraft...
[22:45] jesusabdullah: n2mu?
[22:45] lukstr: Brandon_R: yes, right tool
[22:45] russfrank: hahah
[22:45] elliottcable: Matheus28 › your programming language?
[22:46] elliottcable: Matheus28 › → #elliottcable if you would
[22:46] ryanolds_w: Need a new version of godwin's law, but about minecraft.
[22:46] lukstr: the whole minecraft server thing makes me cry
[22:46] Matheus28: elliottcable: what?
[22:46] jesusabdullah: alright, well, I'm outta here >:P but if anyone's interested in minecrafting after my laptop gets here lemme know :v
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[22:46] jesusabdullah: Also: Obviously we need a node.js minecraft server
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[22:47] jesusabdullah: I wonder what the perf would be like
[22:47] jesusabdullah: if the RAM could be mitigated reasonably
[22:47] elliottcable: Matheus28 › I pointed you to another channel, about programming languages, so we could talk about your language. </unnecessary-recap>
[22:47] jesusabdullah: etc, etc
[22:47] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: http://www.bravoserver.org/
[22:47] russfrank: theres a bunch apparently
[22:47] russfrank: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Custom_servers
[22:47] jesusabdullah: mmalecki: Have you heard of bukkit? It's an extension library
[22:47] russfrank: i was unaware
[22:47] lukstr: jesusabdullah: I stopped listning at "node.js"
[22:47] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: I did, but I didn't use it
[22:48] lukstr: russfrank: I think those are mostly out of date -- he's been updating too quickly.
[22:48] elliottcable: the friends I have who subscribe to this minecraft insanity swear by bukkit
[22:48] jesusabdullah: lukstr: Then what happened?
[22:48] mmalecki: also, here's gh repo https://github.com/MostAwesomeDude/bravo
[22:48] lukstr: after the game officially comes out
[22:48] elliottcable: one of my friends even wrote a bukkit plugin that versions the entire world with git
[22:48] lukstr: he said he'd open source it to modding community if you sign a license
[22:48] jesusabdullah: That sounds handy
[22:48] elliottcable: so you can commit changes and publish the world history on GitHub
[22:48] lukstr: so a re-written server is possible
[22:48] kenperkins: jesus: you minecraft too?
[22:48] kenperkins: damnit
[22:48] lukstr: and I look forward to participating in it :P
[22:48] kenperkins: I can't spend more time in that fucking game
[22:48] jesusabdullah: kenperkins: Used to, don't have the hardware for it right now
[22:48] mmalecki: elliottcable: I did that!
[22:49] mmalecki: without publishing part
[22:49] jesusabdullah: but it's in the mail!
[22:49] kenperkins: gotcha
[22:49] mmalecki: and by hand
[22:49] ryanolds_w: git commit -m "Removed dirt block"
[22:49] kenperkins: what do you mean by hardware? for a server or client
[22:49] jesusabdullah: Don't worry, I only play casually, but it's a fun game!
[22:49] ryanolds_w: git commit -m "Placed dirt block"
[22:49] jesusabdullah: kenperkins: My laptop is way too underpowered
[22:49] jesusabdullah: Oh man, imagine the feed on THAT git repo
[22:49] elliottcable: ryanolds_w › not comitting each change; he had an in-game command to commit updates to the world
[22:49] ryanolds_w: Haha
[22:49] mmalecki: imagine pushing that repo!
[22:49] ryanolds_w: ^_^
[22:49] ryanolds_w: Yeah.
[22:49] jesusabdullah: [fix] Damage from creepers
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[22:50] ryanolds_w: git branch new_house
[22:50] jesusabdullah: [feature] gigantic brick npm logo
[22:50] kenperkins: ah, I have a nice lilttle quad core desktop that runs MC smoking
[22:50] kenperkins: but it's such a time sync
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[22:50] mmalecki: pull requests?
[22:50] isaacs: jesusabdullah: --loglevel brick
[22:50] isaacs: jesusabdullah: put that on every log message.
[22:50] brianc: jsdom = amazing
[22:50] mmalecki: yo, that block shouldn't be there
[22:51] brianc: !npm info jsdom
[22:51] elliottcable: 60 S 951 61 < jesusabdullah> [feature] gigantic brick npm logo
[22:51] Brandon_R: Hey issacs
[22:51] elliottcable: laughing my ass off
[22:51] jesusabdullah: isaacs: hah :D
[22:51] Brandon_R: How's socket.io going
[22:51] isaacs: Brandon_R: um... don't know?
[22:51] jesusabdullah: You do know, of course, that [feature] gigantic brick npm logo is going to be like the second thing I do right?
[22:51] Brandon_R: Oh nvm wrong person
[22:51] jesusabdullah: hah
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[22:51] jesusabdullah: well, it'll probably be sheep wool but we can ignore that for now!
[22:51] Brandon_R: I thought you created socket.io lol i get you and the other guy mixed up
[22:52] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: I've already built Fedora logo!
[22:52] jesusabdullah: mmalecki: Nice! You have this server up somewhere?
[22:52] mmalecki: but it was my first pixel art, so it was, well...
[22:53] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: I'll get it up in few days, I'm not home right now
[22:53] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: but I have screenshots
[22:53] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: also, it's 1.7 world, so we'll need a new one probably
[22:54] isaacs: Brandon_R: i think you're thinking of the other dude with the messy hair.
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[22:54] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: http://imgur.com/a/vScJf#1
[22:54] Brandon_R: Guillermi
[22:55] Brandon_R: http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/150/f/2011/156/7/8/minecraft_linux_mascot___tux___by_exit1-d3i5s31.png
[22:55] jesusabdullah: mmalecki: Nice!
[22:55] mmalecki: jesusabdullah: thanks :)
[22:55] Brandon_R: u guys know when the next node conf is going to be held and where
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[22:55] elliottcable: http://elliottcable.tumblr.com/post/11411638008/minecraft
[22:55] Brandon_R: i want to know if its out of my reach
[22:55] elliottcable: just so y’all know, heh
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[22:56] mmalecki: lol
[22:56] lukstr: make it in california plz
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[22:56] Brandon_R: make it in Baltimore plz
[22:57] Brandon_R: you will get crabs
[22:57] lukstr: so that if I move there it won't be for naught
[22:57] Brandon_R: anyone here applying for colleges?
[22:57] AvianFlu: Brandon_R, I had to read up before I realized your offer of crabs was a good thing
[22:58] Brandon_R: :)
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[22:58] mmalecki: college? is it the thing you need when you have no followers on github?
[22:58] elliottcable: hah!
[22:58] elliottcable: mmalecki › link me yours?
[22:58] mmalecki: elliottcable: https://github.com/mmalecki
[22:59] elliottcable: oh pffffff
[22:59] elliottcable: you only have 8 coderwall acheivements
[22:59] elliottcable: and 201 days on GitHub
[22:59] elliottcable: 
ACTION dismisses you for further interest

[22:59] elliottcable: :D
[22:59] mmalecki: lulz :D
[22:59] elliottcable: http://coderwall.com/elliottcable
[22:59] elliottcable: I WEN
[23:00] elliottcable: actually, that’s fucked up, because coderwall won’t recognize my Node.js repos
[23:00] Brandon_R: you are a winrar
[23:00] elliottcable: idfk why
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[23:00] elliottcable: ryanolds_w › wine*rar (I don’t run on Windows.)
[23:01] elliottcable: ryanolds_w › I keep wanting to add ‘-rap’ to your name.
[23:01] elliottcable: Ryanolds Wrap.
[23:02] Matheus28: Does npm already added support for windows? :(
[23:02] Matheus28: (I know I can use cygwin, I KNOW)
[23:02] isaacs: Matheus28: yes, it runs on windows native with node 0.5.8 and 0.5.9
[23:02] isaacs: 0.5.9 is better
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[23:03] AvianFlu: elliottcable, you need to have "Node.js" in the repo description for coderwall to notice it's node
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[23:03] isaacs: Matheus28: http://npmjs.org/doc/README.html#Installing-on-Windows-Experimental
[23:03] AvianFlu: I confirmed that at length a while back
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[23:03] mmalecki: oh, hey, isaacs, thanks for merging my version thing :)
[23:03] elliottcable: well, the test suite finally finished
[23:03] Matheus28: Thanks!
[23:03] isaacs: mmalecki: np
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[23:03] isaacs: thanks for doing it :)
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[23:03] mmalecki: isaacs: :)
[23:03] elliottcable: --- Total time: 23:49.367 ---
[23:03] elliottcable: jesus christ
[23:05] elliottcable: AvianFlu › really?
[23:05] elliottcable: AvianFlu › but they do ಠ_ಠ
[23:05] Brandon_R: since npm uses node and not cPP bindings, shouldn't it work on windows no problem?
[23:06] isaacs: Brandon_R: you're a funny man.
[23:06] AvianFlu: Brandon_R, windows is a hideous, hideous beast
[23:06] AvianFlu: never expect anything to Just Work transitioning to windows
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[23:06] isaacs: Brandon_R: how do you install npm?
[23:06] isaacs: Brandon_R: by runinng a sh script, right?
[23:06] isaacs: so...
[23:06] isaacs: yeah.
[23:06] isaacs: not so much with that.
[23:06] Brandon_R: i installed it from the aur.archlinux.org :P
[23:07] isaacs: also, npm uses the system tar implementation.
[23:07] isaacs: windows doesn't have one of those (which is why i'm shipping a bsdtar.exe for windows)
[23:07] mmalecki: never expect Windows to work, in the first place
[23:07] Brandon_R: i'm not to big on os. Have to learn all about that
[23:07] Brandon_R: I have things i need to learn in computers listed out
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[23:09] Brandon_R: I have a question
[23:09] elliottcable: lol Brandon_R 
[23:09] Brandon_R: Does youtube really use apache
[23:09] Brandon_R: check the headers
[23:09] Brandon_R: srsly Google?
[23:10] joshkehn: Looks like it.
[23:10] joshkehn: What's wrong with Apache?
[23:10] Brandon_R: a thread per connection
[23:10] joshkehn: Yes?
[23:10] joshkehn: So what?
[23:10] lukstr: they have to load balance their stuff like crazy anyways
[23:11] lukstr: the performance is probably negligable
[23:11] Brandon_R: then again it's Google so they probably have custom solutions
[23:11] joshkehn: 
ACTION wonders what's wrong with a piece of stable software that has been used for decades

[23:11] Lorentz: joshkehn: Clearly, it's not the latest fad, so it's wrong
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[23:11] c4milo: apache performs really well if it's well configured 
[23:11] joshkehn: Correction: Not decades. A decade and change. (1995)
[23:12] Brandon_R: :)
[23:12] tbranyen: nodejsbostonmeetupwhatwhat
[23:13] Brandon_R: meetups
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[23:13] onr: tjholowaychuk: unity vs shiva?
[23:13] tjholowaychuk: i've only used shiva
[23:13] tjholowaychuk: like 5 years ago
[23:13] tjholowaychuk: haha
[23:14] tjholowaychuk: looks like it's come a long way though
[23:14] Brandon_R: i read on lighthttp website that Youtube uses it
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[23:14] Brandon_R: but Google header says apache
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[23:14] joshkehn: light might be out of date
[23:14] joshkehn: I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore
[23:14] lukstr: Brandon_R: the header for what exactly
[23:15] lukstr: re: youtube
[23:15] Brandon_R: the responce headers
[23:15] Brandon_R: on utube
[23:15] lukstr: for pages, videos?
[23:15] bandola: do node.js cache files somewhere ?
[23:15] lukstr: I assume they use different things
[23:15] joshkehn: curl -I youtube.com
[23:15] joshkehn: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
[23:15] joshkehn: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:15:29 GMT
[23:15] joshkehn: Server: Apache
[23:15] lukstr: what about their videos?
[23:15] joshkehn: Haven't checked.
[23:16] joshkehn: Not particularly interested in checking either.
[23:16] lukstr: :P
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[23:16] joshkehn: Brandon_R can go all out with Firebug to see how various components respond.
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[23:17] Brandon_R: how do i check for the videos to see what server they use?
[23:17] joshkehn: Open up a video
[23:17] joshkehn: And have the web inspector / firebug open
[23:17] joshkehn: Check each component's headers
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[23:20] lukstr: it's not apache :P
[23:20] joshkehn: What is it?
[23:20] lukstr: they're custom names
[23:20] lukstr: I just checked a few
[23:21] lukstr: one was "Video stats server", I assume for the statistics
[23:21] Brandon_R: omg soo true http://i.imgur.com/HVXF9.jpg
[23:21] Brandon_R: wiseguy
[23:21] Brandon_R: is one
[23:21] Brandon_R: i'm not getting any headers on the swf or pics etc
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[23:24] ryanolds_wrap: elliottcable: better?
[23:24] elliottcable: ryanolds_wrap › bahahaha
[23:24] elliottcable: ryanolds_wrap › you’re my new second-favourite-person.
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[23:34] ryanolds_wrap: elliottcable: ^_^
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[23:39] bnoordhuis: mmalecki: PEM? haven't heard from him, he left
[23:39] elliottcable: who’s bnoordhuis? o_O
[23:39] mmalecki: bnoordhuis: yeah, that guy. too bad.
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[23:41] bnoordhuis: elliottcable: ?
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[23:47] elliottcable: bnoordhuis › I was just curious why you had +o
[23:47] elliottcable: bnoordhuis › I‘ve never heard of you :x
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[23:47] bnoordhuis: elliottcable: oh, i'm just this guy
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[23:47] elliottcable: well, it’s good that you’re not *that* guy, instead.
[23:48] elliottcable: then I would become bothered by the fact that you seem to be talking through *this* guy.
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[23:48] mmalecki: yeah, this guy done some terrible things
[23:48] bnoordhuis: elliottcable: my spider sense tells me you're not following node on github
[23:49] jesusabdullah: hahaha
[23:49] mosen: I guess from the topic that 0.6 is incoming? :)
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[23:49] jesusabdullah: I follow projects but I follow enough of them that I don't actually find my feed useful anymore
[23:49] jesusabdullah: same with people
[23:49] elliottcable: bnoordhuis › I don’t pay attention to my GitHub stream.
[23:50] elliottcable: bnoordhuis › I follow, er, over 1,000 projects, and nearly 1,000 people.
[23:50] elliottcable: https://github.com/elliottcable
[23:50] CIA-48: node: 03isaacs 07 * r59a5262 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix #1882 zlib Update 'availOutBefore' value, and test - http://git.io/OsrPOA
[23:50] elliottcable: ah, no, I was wrong
[23:50] elliottcable: “Following 496 coders and watching 1,015 repositories”
[23:51] ctide: hy
[23:51] ctide: why
[23:51] elliottcable: ctide › I was one of the first GitHub users, and I followed everyone/everything I found interested. It got out of hand when GitHub got popular.
[23:51] ctide: i see
[23:52] elliottcable: and now I cba to go back through and unfollow/unfavourite things I don’t actually care about. I really just use it as a bookmark list, of repos to re-visit later.
[23:52] ctide: yeah, that makes sense
[23:52] elliottcable: maybe when GitHub has an iPhone and OS X client pair, that actually *push* notifications to me, I’ll start caring about the state of my followship.
[23:52] mmalecki: I do the same, sadly
[23:52] elliottcable: 
ACTION shrugs

[23:52] elliottcable: bnoordhuis › nice to meet you, in any case ^‿^
[23:52] elliottcable: bnoordhuis › which sections are your area of expertise, if you’re contributing a lot?
[23:52] bnoordhuis: elliottcable: likewise
[23:52] bnoordhuis: elliottcable: everything really
[23:52] elliottcable: oh?
[23:53] elliottcable: might want your input here in a bit, then.
[23:53] elliottcable: I’m replacing Script-stuff with code to actually use a prototype to get things into and out of the subenvironment.
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[23:53] elliottcable: it has some downsides though, that I’ll be wanting to discuss A) the necessity of caring about, and B) how to mitigate (if anyone cares.)
[23:54] elliottcable: bnoordhuis › just watch for a pullrequest from me, and comment :3
[23:54] mosen: damn there are a lot of modules using require.paths.unshift() :)
[23:54] joshkehn: mosen: Unfortunately. 
[23:54] bnoordhuis: elliottcable: i always do
[23:54] bnoordhuis: usually "not interested, closing" >:)
[23:54] bnoordhuis: i kid, i kid
[23:55] elliottcable: lolol
[23:55] mosen: joshkehn, yeah, im hoping the authors get around to patching, my dependencies are exploding
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[23:56] joshkehn: If you have any you really need fixed open an issue
[23:56] joshkehn: Fixing them isn't that difficult most of the time.
[23:56] mmalecki: just pull request.
[23:56] joshkehn: mmalecki: That's if you fix them yourself.
[23:56] mmalecki: it's easy.
[23:56] mosen: It's not hard to fix..
[23:57] mmalecki: joshkehn: yes. it's easy enough.
[23:57] mosen: but doing a pull request for one line might be overkill
[23:57] joshkehn: mosen: Not really
[23:57] elliottcable: not at all
[23:57] elliottcable: that’s the best kind.
[23:57] elliottcable: :D
[23:57] elliottcable: you could always re-write all of the comments in the codebase in Malaysian.
[23:57] elliottcable: that’d make it more than one line.
[23:57] elliottcable: er, hopefully. >,>
[23:58] jesusabdullah: Yeah, I'm not huge on require.paths.unshift and am kinda glad it's become bad practice
[23:58] mmalecki: the best one was a pull request for a semicolon
[23:58] elliottcable: mmalecki › BEST ONE
[23:58] mosen: mmalecki, haha
[23:58] bandola: Hi all  
[23:58] bandola:  I am new to node.js  
[23:58] mosen: here, take my semicolon
[23:58] jesusabdullah: Actually, fixing require.paths.unshift would probably be greatly appreciated
[23:58] elliottcable: a pull request that does nothing except change the mode on a single file.
[23:58] bandola:  do you need to reload the framework or something to get rid of cached files ?
[23:58] elliottcable: zero-line pull request ftw
[23:59] jesusabdullah: "[fix] trailing whitespace"
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[23:59] elliottcable: people need to use .gitlabels
[23:59] elliottcable: and quit it with this [fix] and etc
[23:59] elliottcable: )=
[23:59] jesusabdullah: wtf are gitlabels?
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[23:59] elliottcable: github.com/elliottcable/.gitlabels
[23:59] jesusabdullah: also we use the [tags] at work so
[23:59] elliottcable: [fix] and friends, on steroids, and specified.
[23:59] jesusabdullah: I really don't need steroids for that
[23:59] elliottcable: lol.