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[00:00] pksunkara: Why don't you start an issue on github with your full log
[00:00] Netasta: pksunkara: Because I'm fairly sure it's a mistake on my end
[00:00] Netasta: It sure was,
[00:01] Netasta: I see my mistake
[00:01] Netasta: I think.
[00:01] Netasta: I just re-pulled, clean copy with the default settings worked, so I must've left something unclosed of sorts
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[00:04] Nuck: Buffer.indexOf — is it possible?
[00:04] industrial: tias
[00:06] Nuck: I need Buffer.indexOf
[00:06] pksunkara: You can implement it easily
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[00:06] Nuck: And how?
[00:06] pksunkara: 1 sec
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[00:07] Nuck: If I could convert to an Array, it'd be EXTREMELY easy
[00:07] seebees: nuck: I think that is buffer[indexOf]
[00:07] pksunkara: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.11/api/buffers.html#buffer_index_
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[00:07] pksunkara: You can get and set buffer[index]
[00:07] Nuck: 
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[00:07] Nuck: That's index manipulation
[00:07] Nuck: Not indexOf
[00:07] pksunkara: yeah
[00:08] Nuck: indexOf, for those of you who forget, is a search
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[00:08] pksunkara: so you can indexOf using index manipulation
[00:08] Nuck: That seems pretty inefficient
[00:09] pksunkara: yes, but we should do with what we have
[00:09] Nuck: SubStack: You don't happen to have a module that does this?
[00:11] seebees: Nuck: I forgot...
[00:11] pksunkara: I can make one if you want it now
[00:11] Nuck: Nah I'll do it
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[00:12] Nuck: Let's see here... If I iterate over 0 to buffer.length - search.length, slicing on each iteration the section of i to i + search.length, it should be really efficient
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[00:13] sid3k: hi all. is it possible to access module object of a module that I import using require?
[00:14] sid3k: like; require('./foo').MODULE
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[00:14] Nuck: sid3k: Use module.exports
[00:15] sid3k: Nuck: how?
[00:16] geetarista: is anybody using a game framework or know of a good one?
[00:16] Nuck: sid3k: Require() just returns the value of a file's mdoule.exports
[00:16] geetarista: we've been using impactjs and have been having a lot of issues...
[00:16] Nuck: geetarista: You partaking in NKO?
[00:16] geetarista: yep
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[00:16] Nuck: I don't suggest switching frameworks this far in :P
[00:17] geetarista: i know it's probably late in the game, but we've been spinning our wheels with impact...
[00:17] pksunkara: what r the issues u are getting >
[00:17] sorensen: nmeow
[00:17] sid3k: Nuck: yes I know. and I want to access more. My question was
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[00:17] sid3k: how can I get module object of a module that I call?
[00:17] Nuck: sid3k: AFAIK, there's no way
[00:17] geetarista: level editor won't save/work, having issues talking to node, having issues setting up either socket.io or faye
[00:17] pksunkara: I think you can
[00:17] sorensen: uh, how can you use impact.js?
[00:18] sorensen: its not open source or free
[00:18] sid3k: so, what is the easiest way to find out the dependency tree of a module ?
[00:18] geetarista: it's on the services page...
[00:18] sorensen: oooo
[00:18] Nuck: sorensen: They gave licenses to NKO teams
[00:18] geetarista: yeah
[00:18] sorensen: interdasting
[00:18] sorensen: sorry, didn't know
[00:18] geetarista: no worries
[00:18] pksunkara: sid3k: let's say you do var fs = require('fs') in module1.js
[00:18] sid3k: yeah
[00:18] pksunkara: and do exports.fs = fs;
[00:18] sid3k: yep
[00:18] pksunkara: now in index.js
[00:18] geetarista: just wanted to see if there was another framework we could just spend a little time playing with and see if it helps
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[00:19] pksunkara: do var module1 = require('./module1')
[00:19] pksunkara: now you can access fs using
[00:19] pksunkara: module1.fs
[00:19] Nuck: bbl
[00:19] sid3k: you got me wrong appearently
[00:20] sid3k: I want to find out all dependencies with paths if exists
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[00:21] jheusala: should we but nko inside every node process or just the website node?
[00:21] jheusala: each our user will be running a node.js process also
[00:22] jheusala: (which doesn't have HTTP server)
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[00:26] pksunkara: sid3k: Are all your modules installed in node_modules folder ?
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[00:30] der|: The http.createServer method takes a function as an argument. Could somebody tell me why this callback runs 2 times on every request ?  code: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/465540/
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[00:34] AvianFlu: der| how are you testing
[00:35] der|: AvianFlu: using this code: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/465540/  (directly from nodejs.org)
[00:35] AvianFlu: yeah, but are you using your browser to connect?
[00:35] der|: yes
[00:35] der|: ah favicon.ico
[00:36] AvianFlu: yep!
[00:36] der|: argggggh!
[00:36] AvianFlu: drives people crazy a lot of the time :)
[00:36] der|: hehehe
[00:36] der|: freakin favicon.ico
[00:36] AvianFlu: yep
[00:36] der|: I got confused since I am implementing cluster
[00:36] der|: and I thought the code ran x times the amount of workers you had, and I thought that was stud
[00:36] der|: ** stupid
[00:37] der|: so right, the favicon extra request got my wires crossed
[00:37] der|: thanks a lot for clarifying that :)
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[00:41] jesusabdullah: isaacs: Can I go to nko tonight if I want to? idk what the deal is with that
[00:41] jesusabdullah: security? idk
[00:41] isaacs: jesusabdullah: sure, stop by
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[00:42] tbranyen: how is nko going?
[00:42] isaacs: great
[00:42] tbranyen: kind of sad i couldn't find anyone to get a team together
[00:42] tbranyen: i'll try again next year
[00:42] tbranyen: looking forward to seeing what comes out of it
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[00:43] jheusala: I just put a team together :-)
[00:44] industrial: With Express, where do you put your controllers? Can't have an app.coffee of 1000+ lines. If I put them in e.g. controllers/x.coffee then I need to pass the express server (app var) around. I'm interested to see how other people do this.
[00:44] jheusala: has been fun so far
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[00:49] industrial: Noone?
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[00:50] jheusala: some libs do it like params.extend(app), I guess you could split controllers into multiple modules and do it like that
[00:51] industrial: I guess express-resource will do the job
[00:52] jheusala: ..or do it like `var app = module.exports = express.createServer();` and require the app...
[00:52] jheusala: I go to write some more code so that we can deploy soon :-P
[00:53] industrial: mmm I'm already getting nuts of all the requires :( wish JS had autoloading
[00:53] industrial: jheusala: good luck.
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[00:54] firebus: is it normal for socket.io to fail if node is running on a high port?
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[00:54] firebus: if i run my server on port 80, things work. if i run my server on port 8080, i can browse fine by socket fails :(
[00:56] jheusala: firebus: we had a problem when NODE_ENV=development was not set (NODE_ENV was unset)
[00:56] jheusala: exporting NODE_ENV=development fixed all the stability problems
[00:56] firebus: jheusala: hmm!
[00:57] jheusala: I guess that's a bug because I would think it should be development by default even if it's not set.
[00:57] jheusala: It took us something like a 6 hours to figure that out!
[00:58] firebus: no, that doesn't seem to be my problem. setting NODE_ENV=development socket.io is still bork on a high port...
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[00:59] jheusala: we also forced config.transports = ['xhr-polling']; :-P
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[00:59] jheusala: but it didn't fix our problem originally but we never removed that from our config
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[01:06] jesusabdullah: isaacs: Cool! Will I have to worry about things?
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[01:39] Nuck: Hey, can somebody help me debug my Buffer indexOf? https://gist.github.com/145e8417d575c2dd83ff
[01:39] Nuck: For some reason, the condition on line 5 never returns true, even when it should be true
[01:40] Nuck: Is this some odd property of Buffers?
[01:40] Nuck: v8: Buffer
[01:40] v8bot_: Nuck: ReferenceError: Buffer is not defined
[01:40] Nuck: Figured as much
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[01:41] Nuck: How do I compare two buffers if Buffer('foo') !== Buffer('foo')?
[01:41] seebees: not === :(
[01:42] Nuck: Even with ==, still fails
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[01:42] seebees: they are different objects, even if they point to the same values.
[01:42] Nuck: Then how do I compare them?
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[01:43] seebees: a[0] === b[0] && a[1] === b[1] && ...
[01:43] seebees: there may be a better way.  looking.
[01:43] Nuck: Seems highly inefficient.  Maybe toString them?
[01:43] Nuck: utf8 should retain the data just fine, right?
[01:43] seebees: hum, you could toString(utf-8)...
[01:43] Nuck: wait
[01:43] Nuck: Just toString('base64')
[01:44] seebees: nice
[01:44] seebees: but it might be faster to do something like if (a[i] == b[0] && a.toString === b.toString())
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[01:46] Nuck: utf8 is prolly faster
[01:46] Nuck: Since it doesn't require base conversion
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[01:46] seebees: either way, I would think that only checking the first value would be faster for any long "string"
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[01:47] Nuck: Ah true
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[01:47] Nuck: If I have it check the first three characters, I can make it a bit faster prolly in cases where it's false
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[01:48] seebees: and if you check by 3, then I think you can loop by 2…?
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[01:48] seebees: prime numbers
[01:49] aho: i'd use something like this: http://pastebin.com/XfZtNKxf
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[01:49] aho: should be near native speed with v8
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[01:50] aho: v8 is actually pretty damn good at crap like this
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[01:53] Nuck: aho: I'm trying to find the first occurrence of a needle in haystack, where needle and haystack are Buffers
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[01:54] Nuck: So I search from 0 to haystack.length - needle.length, checking to see if it matches
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[01:54] Nuck: It functions like a "sliding door" over the haystack Buffer, using slice to grab each chunk and compare
[01:55] Nuck: If the first three characters don't match, it won't compare any more, since it's obviously not it, thanks to lazy evaluation.
[01:56] tonymilne: Yo peeeps,
[01:56] aho: did you check if needle.length is <= haystack.length? :>
[01:56] Nuck: aho: I will add that optimization right now :D
[01:56] bnoordhuis: Nuck: google boyer-moore
[01:56] aho: it's more of a sanity check
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[01:57] bnoordhuis: Nuck: or checkout buffertools
[01:58] Nuck: bnoordhuis: It's been done?
[01:58] Nuck: :3
[01:58] Nuck: bnoordhuis: Does buffertools use Boyer-moore?
[01:58] bnoordhuis: Nuck: yes
[01:59] Nuck: Then fuck what I'm doing :P
[01:59] bnoordhuis: duplicating my work :)
[01:59] Nuck: bnoordhuis: You provide an indexOf()?
[01:59] bnoordhuis: Nuck: yes
[01:59] Nuck: eek!
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[01:59] Nuck: Native code?
[01:59] bnoordhuis: though i might never have come around to adding lastIndexOf
[01:59] bnoordhuis: yes
[02:00] Nuck: :/
[02:00] Nuck: Native can be slower than JS
[02:00] Nuck: Since it has to call out.
[02:00] bnoordhuis: true
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[02:00] bnoordhuis: but i bet you a sixpack it trounces JS for large buffers
[02:00] Nuck: But the use of boyer-moore should more than make up for it :P
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[02:01] Nuck: bnoordhuis: Does it also provide a way to compare buffers?
[02:01] bnoordhuis: Nuck: yep
[02:01] Nuck: OMGYES
[02:01] Nuck: bnoordhuis++
[02:01] v8bot_:  Nuck has given a beer to bnoordhuis. bnoordhuis now has 1 beers.
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[02:02] Nuck: This should help a ton in my streaming MultiPart parser :D
[02:03] bnoordhuis: might be a fun challenge to compare a C++ and JS implementation of boyer-moore
[02:03] bnoordhuis: 
ACTION adds TODO

[02:04] Nuck: lol
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[02:04] Nuck: bnoordhuis: I'd be curious to see that too
[02:04] Nuck: Also, lastindexOf is easy.  haystack.reverse().indexOf(needle.reverse())
[02:04] Nuck: Problem solved :P
[02:05] bnoordhuis: but not exactly in lg(n) :)
[02:05] firebus: can i run http and https servers in the same node process?
[02:05] Nuck: bnoordhuis: If you add that, I'll love you even more.
[02:05] bnoordhuis: Nuck: sure, open an issue and i'll add it when i have time to kill
[02:05] Nuck: I use a lastIndexOf to detect partial-dividers
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[02:05] bnoordhuis: firebus: yes
[02:05] Nuck: For now I'll fake it with the .reverse stuff
[02:06] firebus: bnoordhuis: thanks!
[02:06] Nuck: bnoordhuis: If I get a chance, I might see about porting your C code to JS :P
[02:06] Nuck: Porting code has always been one of my strongsuits
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[02:07] bnoordhuis: Nuck: give it a shot, curious if optimized js can beat gcc at -O2
[02:07] Nuck: I once ported hundreds of lines from C# to PHP without knowing any C# and barely knowing PHP :P
[02:07] Nuck: bnoordhuis: I'm curious about the same thing :D
[02:08] Nuck: Just realized that I'm gonna hafta find a fix for when there's hyphens in the divider >_>
[02:08] Nuck: I just look for the last hyphen and see if it's the start of a divider
[02:09] Nuck: But it never will be, since there need to be two hyphens anyways
[02:09] Nuck: So yeah
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[02:16] Nuck: Now to make it handle multiple splits in a single chunk
[02:21] Nuck: This is gonna be complicated
[02:21] Nuck: But it's entirely doable
[02:23] Nuck: IF somebody could write a test tool that acts like a Stream for me, and will take a multipart-encoded buffer and split it at every possible point, testing it against the functions, I would love it
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[02:23] Nuck: I need to make sure this thing won't break in fringe cases ;)
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[02:29] eazyigz: Anybody work with node-mongodb-native, and have problems with sorting a large collection?
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[02:29] Nuck: lolololol accidentally set node's REPL into an infinite loop
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[02:32] teadict: what does one use for maintainning a node instance running?
[02:32] teadict: is there something to auto boot it?
[02:33] teadict: I'll have ssh access so I can shoot it back up whenever the client complains it is down but...
[02:33] dturnbull: upstart, sysV, monit, lots more
[02:33] ctl: teadict: https://github.com/indexzero/forever
[02:33] teadict: thanks 
[02:33] teadict: 
ACTION watches repo

[02:33] teadict: oh I thought there was a node-specific program, k
[02:34] Nuck: Man, I suck ass at while loops >_>
[02:34] Nuck: I keep making infinite loops on accident
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[02:34] ctl: Anyone know if you can share mixins between classes in Stylus?
[02:35] ctl: Similar to http://lesscss.org/#-namespaces in less.
[02:35] Nuck: Nope, sorry.  I use LESS.
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[02:40] tonymilne: You just call the mixing from within your style declaration.
[02:41] tonymilne: http://learnboost.github.com/stylus/ and ctrl+f "Keep things DRY"
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[02:45] ctl: tonymilne: I get that, but I have a mixin located in one class, for gradient backgrounds. 
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[02:45] ctl: I'd like to use that mixin just once in another class. Is it possible to do that without putting it outside the gradient bg class?
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[02:46] tonymilne: not too sure then, sorry.
[02:46] ctl: alright, thanks anyway.
[02:46] dturnbull: Hello node, my dear.  I am leaving my wife, Ruby.  Will you have me?
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[02:50] geetarista: dturnbull: a lot of people here are cheating on ruby…  ;)
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[03:07] JWarm: Hey guys, I'm installing node.js for the first time and I'm already getting an error after ./configure
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[03:07] JWarm: Can I get some help to get up and going? :)
[03:07] ctl: JWarm: what's the error?
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[03:11] JWarm:   File "/home/jwarmkessel/node/tools/wafadmin/Utils.py", line 274, in load_module
[03:11] JWarm:     exec(compile(code, file_path, 'exec'), module.__dict__)
[03:11] JWarm:   File "/home/jwarmkessel/node/wscript", line 222
[03:11] JWarm:     "-pre" if node_is_release == "0" else ""
[03:11] JWarm:             ^
[03:11] JWarm: SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[03:12] ctl: You need a newer version of python.
[03:12] JWarm: I updated to 2.6 but I'm still getting the error
[03:14] JWarm: However, I did the upgrade this way: YUM repository for python26 RPMs that can co-exist with the 'native' 2.4
[03:14] JWarm: I was reading how centOS relies on the older version and that 'things' might break unless I do it this way.
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[03:15] ctl: Yeah, that's probably the reason. I remember reading on the mailing list that there's a specific way to do it to install on CentOS.
[03:15] ctl: Give me a sec.
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[03:18] JWarm: Thanks!!
[03:19] ctl: JWarm: yeah, what people did was just installed python26 and temporarily made a symlink to it.
[03:19] ctl: http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs/msg/d9c3679af0c3cb49
[03:20] JWarm: Cool, I'll try this.
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[03:21] JWarm: I don't understand this: "Then inside the root of the node source directory: "
[03:21] JWarm: what is the root
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[03:22] ctl: The node directory, basically.
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[03:23] JWarm: Cool
[03:23] JWarm: thanks
[03:24] JWarm: error: Could not autodetect OpenSSL support. Make sure OpenSSL development packages are installed. Use configure --without-ssl to disable this message.
[03:25] JWarm: I have openssl
[03:26] JWarm: cd /
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[03:27] bnoordhuis: JWarm: you probably need to install openssl-devel
[03:27] JWarm: Thanks, I'll check that out.
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[03:28] JWarm: Do you know if I can yum install openssl-devel?
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[03:30] bnoordhuis: JWarm: yes, that should work
[03:30] bnoordhuis: JWarm: or maybe it's libssl-devel
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[03:33] findingtime: I'm getting an error from node-waf when I try to install node-proxy: "no such environment: default" -- any ideas?
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[03:41] shanebo: are there any regex jedis up in here?
[03:42] Nuck: shanebo: I know enough?
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[03:43] shanebo: Nuck, I'm writing a simple router and one of my use cases is failing. 1 sec and I'll fiddle it
[03:43] Nuck: k
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[03:47] DTrejo: NO MOAR JSPP.io ????A??A?A???
[03:48] shanebo: Nuck, this is in infancy but you'll get the idea: http://jsfiddle.net/shanebo/QKbfx/1/
[03:48] shanebo: Nuck, don't worry about trying to understand all the code, the regex is the prob...
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[03:49] shanebo: for example, in that fiddle notice how all does as expected except for the blog route?
[03:49] shanebo: does = do
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[03:50] shanebo: now if you remove the '^' + from the regexIt method all will work except for the     '/:catalog/:sub/:category/products': ['products','subCategory','GET']
[03:50] shanebo:  route
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[03:53] Nuck: shanebo: Try logging the generated regex and using an analyzer on it.
[03:53] Nuck: I honestly can't tell what the hell you're doing lol
[03:54] Nuck: Oh, I know why
[03:54] shanebo: view your console
[03:54] JWarm: blegh, got d/c. I'm still having trouble successfully installing node.js. I have openssl installed but the installation is telling me i don't have it.
[03:54] Nuck: shanebo: Trailing slash
[03:55] Nuck: on the blog's path :P
[03:55] JWarm: Also, i was recommended to download openssl-devel or libssl-devel but I can't find any pages to help me do this on centos
[03:55] JWarm: Please help this noob out.
[03:55] Nuck: shanebo: You set it up with a slahs at the end, but then you test it without one
[03:56] JWarm: :)
[03:56] shanebo: Nuck, nice catch but it still doesn't work
[03:57] shanebo: Nuck, with remove trailing slash --> http://jsfiddle.net/shanebo/QKbfx/2/
[03:57] Nuck: ^([^/]*)/([^/]*)/([^/]*)/blog/([^/]*)
[03:57] Nuck: That's the generated RegEx
[03:57] shanebo: correct
[03:58] Nuck: And it's being .exec'd against "/2011/07/31/blog/article-title-here", correct?
[03:58] habblelabble: 2011/07/31 = 9.267281105990783
[03:58] Nuck: 
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[03:59] shanebo: Nuck, correct
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[04:00] teadict: what's the production environment way to run a node server?
[04:00] teadict: I'm sure it's not just "node index.js" and leave the client to it, right?
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[04:00] Nuck: shanebo: Change it from prepending ^ to ^/
[04:01] Nuck: It's missing the slash in front.
[04:01] Nuck: Not even sure how it was working without, TBH
[04:01] Nuck: But it seems to be working with that
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[04:03] Nuck: Can somebody tell me WTF a Segmentation Fault is?
[04:03] Nuck: Or better yet, how I managed one?
[04:04] shanebo: Nuck, that worked! Thanks a lot man. Regexes are like kryptonite to me...
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[04:04] AvianFlu: Nuck: that's when you try to access memory that your process isn't allowed to
[04:04] AvianFlu: a bad address maybe, or something you don't have permissions for
[04:04] Nuck: shanebo: Were for me too.  Then I picked up this tool called "Expresso" which let me break down Regexes into a tree of explanations
[04:04] AvianFlu: buffer overflows will produce them
[04:04] Nuck: And I slowly learned it myself
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[04:05] shanebo: Nuck, expresso or espresso?
[04:05] Nuck: AvianFlu: Oh, I probably overran the buffer then
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[04:05] Nuck: shanebo: expresso, with an ex, as in regEX
[04:05] shanebo: Nuck, you don't mean espresso as in the editor do you?
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[04:05] shanebo: ah i see
[04:05] Nuck: A Regular Expression editor
[04:06] Nuck: freeware IIRC
[04:06] shanebo: this here? http://www.ultrapico.com/Expresso.htm
[04:06] Nuck: Yeah that sounds right
[04:06] Nuck: Might be Windows-only tho
[04:06] Nuck: Haven't used it in quite a while
[04:06] shanebo: would be a handy web app
[04:06] Nuck: Agreed, I think there is a Regex-builder webapp
[04:07] Nuck: I just can't remember the URL and it wasn't nearly as simple as this :P
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[04:12] Acolyte: Has anyone fixed require.paths issue with cloud9 module?
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[04:14] vicapow: hello all! anyone familiar with everyauth?
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[04:15] blkcat: vicapow: don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
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[04:15] vicapow: does anyone know how I can prevent everyauth from leaving out the authetication information from the session after the server stops and then restarts?
[04:16] vicapow: i dont want to hate to keep logging back in every time i edit a template file
[04:16] vicapow: have*
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[04:17] calebc: vicapow: I only have experience with it this weekend, but I think you want to move sessions to something other than the default in-memory sessions that connect provides
[04:17] calebc: I moved mine to Redis using the connect-redis module
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[04:17] vicapow: calebc: I'm using connect-mongodb MongoSTore
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[04:17] vicapow: but it still clears the db whenever it starts up
[04:17] vicapow: i can't figure out how or why
[04:17] calebc: Ah, haven't tried that one.
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[04:18] vicapow: it clears the "sessions" collection from the db
[04:18] vicapow: not the entire sessions, but the "auth" part of the sessions
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[04:28] Nuck: Having to rewrite my parser, since it didn't handle two cases well: multiple parts per chunk, and dividers that are split on the edge of two chunks
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[04:28] Nuck: Now it handles the first great, I've just gotta get the latter one working right :P
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[04:29] Nuck: Not gonna bother with the case of the ender being off by one yet.
[04:29] Nuck: The chances are so incredibly slim, I'll add that later :P
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[04:31] JWarm: quick question: I just did ./configure && make and the build finished successfully but i get this output: make: [all] Error 1 (ignored)
[04:31] tbranyen: JWarm: issue with unstable build
[04:31] tbranyen: JWarm: you should be using stable :)
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[04:41] Acolyte_: anyone else encountered "Socket is not writable" in NodeSocket.js of lib-v8debug?
[04:42] Acolyte_: or at least can advise on https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/732 ?
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[04:46] Nuck: Is it jsut me or does turntable.fm have a pretty gnarly UI?
[04:47] apang42: yeah it's pretty terrible IMO
[04:47] Nuck: The scrolling text is hideous, blurry, and not at all smooth
[04:47] Nuck: The page scrolls when it ought to be designed as a webapp
[04:48] Nuck: And the volume controls are absolutely HORRENDOUS
[04:49] Nuck: And dear God, so many gingers.
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[04:59] Acolyte_: which version of node should be used with cloud9?
[05:00] eminion: Having trouble with DNode and IE  (error on page load) - Anyone else had this problem?
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[05:03] SubStack: eminion: known but, dnode doesn't work in ie
[05:04] SubStack: it will shortly after I get testling running
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[05:05] tonymilne: Anyone know how to get the host or port values from express?
[05:05] tonymilne: or are they accessible from process or anything?
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[05:07] NuckingFuts: And suddenly, all the DOM event handlers for turntable.fm break D:
[05:08] NuckingFuts: LOL they got queued up
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[05:11] rook2pawn: how do you write a file with formidable? 
[05:12] Nuck: rook2pawn: No fucking clue, I'm just making my own multipart parser and building my own setup :P
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[05:12] eminion: SubStack: Ok thanks
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[05:27] Nuck: Heh I got the CEO of deviantART to respond to a tweet :P
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[05:28] Nuck: I joked that they should move to AWS, because it's totally reliable and never, ever goes down.
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[05:33] AvianFlu:  Nuck: LOL
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[05:43] phoe6: I am designing/developing a node.js application. The hard part again seems to me the front end js. ! :(
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[05:43] phoe6: the client sie.
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[05:44] jro_: hi all
[05:44] jro_: hi all
[05:44] jro_: I can chat with who ?
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[05:52] DTrejo: indexzero: I'm looking for a project that uses vows, and has tests that pass. do you know of one?
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[05:52] DTrejo: or anyone else?
[05:53] indexzero: DTrejo: http://github.com/nodejitsu/haibu
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[05:53] DTrejo: ty!
[05:53] indexzero: http://github.com/indexzero/winston
[05:53] indexzero: DTrejo: basically anything I wrote, lol
[05:53] indexzero: https://github.com/indexzero/nconf
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[05:53] arlolra: anyone have node-canvas woring on no.de?
[05:53] DTrejo: indexzero: I sense that nodejitsu will score highly on hollaback.no,de
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[06:00] astropirate: What are the properties of the  request object that is passed on the server.listen event listener?
[06:00] astropirate: i can't find them anywhere in the docs
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[06:04] astropirate: ohh now i just feel silly 
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[06:04] chovy: var protocol = new(require('json-line-protocol').JsonLineProtocol)();
[06:04] chovy: wtf is that?
[06:04] chovy: how do I use two instances of this library?
[06:05] tmzt_: var json-line = require('json-line-protocol').JsonLineProtocol;
[06:06] tmzt_: var json1 = new jsonline();
[06:06] tmzt_: var json2 = neew jsonline();
[06:07] chovy: tmzt_: thanks
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[06:32] blueadept: anyone use coffeekup?
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[06:43] Croms: Does anyone know a possible reason why relative paths won't work when deploying with upstart on ubuntu? Works fine when executing with node directly?
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[06:52] tmzt_: Croms: relative to what?
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[06:54] Croms: tmzt_: It's probably the way the upstart script gets executed. Think I need to put a chdir in there somewhere.
[06:54] tmzt_: or just launch a shell script
[06:56] Croms: That's a solution too. Want to make it work using upstart though.
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[07:03] Andy_: hello
[07:03] Guest25043: ok
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[07:04] Guest25043: can i ask a question about jade?
[07:04] Acolyte: don't ask to ask, just ask
[07:06] chovy: NO
[07:06] chovy: j/k
[07:07] Guest25043: Ok, I'm using express/jade, and i'm passing a js object from the app.get callback function to the index.jade view.  And I can iterate through them with -each  foo in foos.
[07:07] Guest25043: and i can use jade to render a list of them, which is great
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[07:07] Guest25043: but i want to call a javascript function
[07:08] Guest25043: for each foo in foos that i've passed to the .jade file
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[07:08] saimon_: does anyone know why cluster restart doesn't kill the current workers and respawn new worker processes. It appears to be doing some sort of restart within each worker...
[07:08] Guest25043: but i cannot figure out how to do so - i've tried using the "-" notation
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[07:09] Guest25043: i guess what i'm asking is where do you have to define javascript functions for them to be callable in jade?
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[07:11] jamesw: Guest25043: why don't you just define them in a separate .js file and include it
[07:11] jamesw: then call it with
[07:11] jamesw: - myFunc(args)
[07:11] jamesw: just guessing here
[07:11] Guest25043: i'm doing that
[07:12] jamesw: is your external js file in the header?
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[07:12] Guest25043: yes it is
[07:13] jamesw: alright, you got me then
[07:13] jamesw: sorry
[07:13] Guest25043: it's weird - i have no idea where jade i slooking for it
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[07:13] jamesw: jade does a lot of weird things
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[07:14] jamesw: the whole "can't mix tabs and spaces" has made me want to punch a puppy at times
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[07:16] Guest25043: ok alternatively, how are variables passed from the render callback to the jade template?
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[07:17] Guest25043: the options object defines "locals"
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[07:17] jamesw: res.render('index', {     sid: req.session.id,     title: 'Express'   });
[07:17] Guest25043: and these locals are acceessible by jade - they are global in jade notation
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[07:17] jamesw: like so
[07:18] jamesw: you don't have to define locals at all
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[07:18] Guest25043: yeah yeah, so i have that res.render('index', { ... locals: { foo: foo} })
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[07:18] jamesw: for example my layout.jade has this
[07:18] jamesw: #sid #{sid}
[07:18] jamesw: on load that sets the session id I passed in the html
[07:18] jamesw: the way yours is set up
[07:19] jamesw: you'd have to do #{locals.foo}
[07:19] jamesw: unless jade automatically reads "locals" and converts it
[07:19] jamesw: not sure
[07:19] jamesw: again, off the top of my head
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[07:24] Guest25043: is there a jade specific way to handle on load js calls?
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[07:25] Guest25043: currently i'm using, body(onload='initialize_foo(); initialize_bar();')
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[07:26] Guest25043: and if that's the way to do it, how can you pass arguments into these function calls?
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[07:30] robinduckett: Guest25043: 
[07:31] robinduckett: you don't you just call one function from the other?
[07:31] robinduckett: or use jQuery?
[07:31] robinduckett: $(function() {console.log('onload');});
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[07:33] blueadept: anyone use coffeekup?
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[07:45] jkj_: ldapjs says "Error: Socket is not writable", when trying to send results
[07:45] jkj_: strange
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[07:51] Guest25043: robinduckett: my issue is that in my node.js module that handles the get request, i create a variable that I want to use in a jade template 
[07:52] Guest25043: the only way i know how to access that object is through a jade -each foo in foos loop
[07:53] Guest25043: i'm trying to access it in the jquery on load function, but i do not know how
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[08:16] Nuck: https://github.com/NuckChorris/Multipartser Not done yet, but got an initial commit :D
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[08:34] visnup: Guest25043: how much information are you sending to the client?
[08:34] visnup: I sometimes use a meta tag
[08:34] visnup: if it's a lot, I'd use ajax+json
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[08:36] visnup: ...and I think jade uses #{x} to interpolate locals in a script tag
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[09:07] slaskis: v8: "test"
[09:07] v8bot_: slaskis: "test"
[09:07] slaskis: v8:  require('events').EventEmitter.toString()
[09:07] v8bot_: slaskis: ReferenceError: require is not defined
[09:07] slaskis: oh right
[09:08] slaskis: why is this (on 0.4.11)? require('events').EventEmitter.toString() => 'function EventEmitter() { [native code] }'
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[09:09] Acolyte: what is a correct way to concat two strings in one of the modules? it keeps complaining about invalid token
[09:09] Acolyte: ala 'test' + app.set('view engine')
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[09:14] micheil: pong
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[09:14] robinduckett: what was the link to the pusher beta docs?
[09:14] micheil: roundtrip took < 1 second
[09:14] robinduckett: bot or troll?
[09:14] micheil: http://pusher-static-staging.heroku.com/docs/pipe
[09:15] robinduckett: ah troll
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[09:15] robinduckett: micheil: I just ran into issues lol
[09:15] micheil: uh-oh
[09:15] robinduckett: that your collegue helped me with
[09:15] micheil: i'm still here if you need me.
[09:15] arlolra: anyone here know how to use node-canvas?
[09:15] arlolra:       img.src = that;
[09:15] micheil: okay; I'm just busy downloading all our server logs for analysis.
[09:15] arlolra: Image given has not completed loaded
[09:16] robinduckett: cool, it's okay now, just had the issue of multiple servers running and it returning stuff to the clients per server*
[09:16] robinduckett: so had like three events back instead of just one lol
[09:16] ako: img.onload=...; img.src=....;
[09:16] arlolra: does canvas.Image have a callback
[09:17] ako: like regular canvas innit?
[09:17] arlolra: img.onload doesn't seem to fire though
[09:17] jesusabdullah: I'm on the nko front page right now!
[09:17] jesusabdullah: Hah, that's neat.
[09:17] japj: slaskis: I think EventEmitter in 0.4.11 is C++ code
[09:18] ako: arlolra, https://github.com/LearnBoost/node-canvas/blob/master/examples/image-src.js
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[09:18] tonymilne: Anyone from linode representing?
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[09:18] ako: line 34-36
[09:18] habblelabble: 34-36 = -2
[09:18] tonymilne: Or from node knockout? I was wondering if linode deployments get given a domain/subdomain for their entries? 
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[09:19] Acolyte: is it possible to access app object from modules?
[09:20] arlolra: ako: i did that and got my error
[09:20] arlolra: Image given has not completed loaded
[09:20] ako: and you used readFileSync?
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[09:21] robinduckett: micheil: I can't log in to the dashboard, was there a special link or?
[09:21] micheil: yes
[09:21] micheil: app.darling.pusher.com
[09:22] robinduckett: cheers
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[09:24] slaskis: japj: isn't it this? https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/v0.4.11/lib/events.js
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[09:27] japj: https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/v0.4.11/lib/events.js#L22
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[09:27] japj: I think the javascript code in events.js extends the C++ code
[09:28] japj: atleast that is how it works in 0.4.x, I believe they changed that in 0.5.x
[09:28] arlolra: ako: no
[09:28] ako: well, do that then :>
[09:29] arlolra: ako: i'm trying to load from toDataURL
[09:29] arlolra: i'm producing toDataURL on the client, then sending it to the server
[09:29] japj: slaskis: https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/v0.4.11/src/node_events.cc#L38
[09:30] ako: right. on the server you then need to throw that b64 crap away... then decode the base64 data into a buffer or whatever canvas node can use
[09:30] japj: slaskis: that is where the C++ part resides as far as I can tell
[09:30] ako: b64 *header* crap
[09:30] slaskis: japj: ooh, i missed that part
[09:30] slaskis: that sucks, so i'll just have to use eventemitter2 instead then
[09:30] arlolra: ako: i see
[09:31] arlolra: ako: big thanks
[09:31] japj: slaskis: https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/ChangeLog#L121 the c++ side was removed in 0.5.2
[09:31] slaskis: japj: ah that's nice, i just don't dare to use the 0.5 branch yet :P
[09:32] japj: slaskis: np, 0.5 is the 'unstable' branch, so that it normal I think ;)
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[09:41] slaskis: i'm trying to util.inherits according to the docs, but i get this error: TypeError: Object prototype may only be an Object or null
[09:41] slaskis: is the docs wrong? should i pass the prototype or constructor into it instead of the function
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[09:43] arlolra: ako: https://gist.github.com/1176480
[09:43] arlolra: can you see anything glaringly stupid
[09:43] arlolra: i'm getting the same thing
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[09:43] arlolra: Omage given has not completed loaded
[09:43] arlolra: Image
[09:45] ako: if you write that buffer to a file... can you open it?
[09:46] arlolra: hrrm
[09:46] arlolra: let me try
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[10:10] arlolra: ako: no, that's not working
[10:10] arlolra: i guess that's what's wrong
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[10:39] TheJH: "it's going to be noisy" - just "noisy"?
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[11:11] Nuck: Are the netsplits over?
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[11:13] `3rdEden: yup
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[11:13] TheJH: Nuck, global notice said so
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[11:14] Nuck: WTF was up with those?
[11:14] Nuck: Did they explain that?
[11:14] Klevre: I'm compiling node.js via cygwin on windows and I'm getting this error -> http://pastebin.com/HR2BNpki
[11:14] Nuck: I finally gave in and bought colloquy mobile. Loving it so far
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[11:15] TheJH: Nuck, -Martinp23- [Global Notice] Hi folks. In preparation for some maintenance, we need to do a bit of re-hubbing. This is going to basically involve nearly all of EU splitting from US - so it's going to be noisy. Sorry for the inconvenience, and I'll send another message when we're done.
[11:15] TheJH: Nuck, -Martinp23- [Global Notice] Hi everyone - that's the end of the ride. Everything that needs to be is now re-hubbed, so thanks for your patience and for using freenode, and sorry for the noise. Ask in #freenode with questions. :)
[11:15] Nuck: Ahhh thanks for that
[11:16] TheJH: Nuck, in case your client didn't show you those, you should turn on global notices
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[11:16] Nuck: I use mIRC on my pc
[11:16] Nuck: Hello piscisaureus 
[11:17] Nuck: MIRC sucks ass, of course
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[11:17] Nuck: And I was offline when the splits ended I think
[11:18] `3rdEden: i will swap colloguy for mirc any day
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[11:19] Nuck: You'd rather has mIRC than colloquy?
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[11:19] `3rdEden: yup
[11:20] Nuck: Colloquy is nice on iPhone, I know that much.
[11:20] overra: it's what i grew up on
[11:20] `3rdEden: same
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[11:20] `3rdEden: I still have a shit load of mIRC scripts on my disk
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[11:20] overra: i'm bad about keeping old stuff, kinda sad
[11:20] Nuck: Lol I've been using mIRC for a couple years now. Moved from chatzilla.
[11:21] overra: mirc scripting got me into web dev
[11:21] Nuck: I actually use SysReset with the latest mIRC dropped in
[11:21] Nuck: It's the best windows gui client, but that's still not saying much.
[11:21] Nuck: Windows GUIs are notoriously bad.
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[11:22] Nuck: I'd kill to have TextMate on Windows 8D
[11:23] Nuck: No seriously, I would murder somebody if it made TextMate work on Windows
[11:23] TheJH: hey, wow, didn't know about /whowas
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[11:24] industrial: Vim is all I need
[11:24] industrial: isnt textmate like, dead?
[11:24] Nuck: Even Mac keygens are sexy. We get ugly programs with awful blaring rap music and scrolling text, while Mac gets elegant designs with subtle music.
[11:24] Nuck: TextMate bundles are still the standard
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[11:25] industrial: keygens should have chiptune music and parralax scrollers
[11:25] industrial: :p
[11:25] Nuck: I don't care what editor as long as it accepts textmate bundles
[11:25] Nuck: Lol
[11:25] industrial: Nuck: vim has snipmate, which accepts or converts textmate bundles.
[11:25] chapel: industrial++ vim all the way
[11:25] Nuck: Fuck vim :P
[11:25] industrial: if only I could.
[11:26] industrial: erm, right. I'm off xD
[11:26] Nuck: I hate modal editors
[11:26] Nuck: I should be as well. It's well past 4 AM
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[11:28] DrMcKay: industrial++
[11:28] catb0t: industrial now has 1 beer
[11:28] v8bot_:  DrMcKay has given a beer to industrial. industrial now has 1 beers.
[11:29] DrMcKay: since I met Vim I refuse to use anything else
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[11:30] `3rdEden: if i wanted to update a document in mongodb, not the whole document.. should I use db.save? or db.update with a $set? or a db.update with a upsert =/
[11:31] industrial: update with $set
[11:32] industrial: However if you are writing an update function and dont know all the key names you are changing and it might also have nested keys, then you need to write a function to convert e.g. the JSON into a correct $set update object {a: 'b', 'c.d.e': 'f', 'c.d.g': 'h'}
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[11:33] `3rdEden: hmzl
[11:34] industrial: at least, I did, for my Resource.put() =)
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[11:37] Klevre: Anyone got node.js running on windows?
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[11:44] necrodearia: https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io#readme     at the very beginning: var io = require('socket.io');             this produces error in firefox: require is not defined
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[11:51] `3rdEden: necrodearia
[11:51] `3rdEden: do that on the server...
[11:51] `3rdEden: not in a browser
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[12:04] japj: Klevre: there is major work going on windows support in the current master (0.5.x) there is also a latest node.exe for windows on the main download page
[12:04] Klevre: japj: I'm compling it via cygwin
[12:05] Klevre: http://pastebin.com/HR2BNpki that's the error I'm getting
[12:05] japj: which version are you building?
[12:05] Klevre: the latest 0.5.5
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[12:08] japj: Klevre: did you build with ./confgure and make?
[12:08] Klevre: yep
[12:08] Klevre: that error is after doing 'make'
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[12:11] japj: Klevre: I'm trying to build the latest master on cygwin now, it takes a while...
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[12:11] japj: Klevre: just a check, do you have the latest packages from cygwin?
[12:12] Klevre: yep
[12:12] Klevre: well I think so, I followed the instructions
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[12:12] Klevre: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Building-node.js-on-Cygwin-(Windows)
[12:13] japj: I see for me there is a newer binutils and other stuff, if this compilation goes ok then I'll upgrade to newer cygwin packages and retry
[12:14] Klevre: lemme know how it goes
[12:14] japj: ah, I have the same issue
[12:15] Klevre: http://l8rs.blogspot.com/2011/03/building-nodejs-on-cygwin.html
[12:15] habblelabble: 2011/03 = 670.3333333333334
[12:15] Klevre: "The solution is to remove the -L/usr/lib and -L/usr/local/lib lines from the final build step."
[12:15] japj: so it probably is not something in cygwin
[12:15] Klevre: lines from where? confused by that solution
[12:17] japj: Klevre: it could be that something broke during the a recent change
[12:17] Klevre: hmm
[12:17] Klevre: have you check that blog post?
[12:18] japj: Klevre: that page might be slightly out of date, since they reworked the buildsystem in 0.5.x aswell
[12:18] Klevre: it seems the guy got it to build
[12:18] Klevre: oh
[12:18] japj: Klevre: those instructions probably work for 0.4.x
[12:18] japj: Klevre: if there is no specific reason for you to use 0.5 then it might be better to switch to 0.4.x or use the pre-build windows binary for 0.5.x
[12:19] japj: Klevre: unless you want to work on node itself ofcourse
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[12:20] `3rdEden: micheil: someone with pusher issues in #nodeknockout
[12:20] `3rdEden: ;p
[12:20] Klevre: japj: Actually trying to get https://github.com/mape/node-wargames to work
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[12:24] japj: Klevre: ok, then it might be better to stick with 0.4.x
[12:25] japj: Klevre: high chance that existing projects are not tested on 0.5.x yet, unless they explicitly state it
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[12:25] japj: Klevre: btw, compilation and linking with mingw works ok. so it is a cygwin specific issue
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[12:35] Klevre: japj: 4.9 built successfully
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[13:06] LordMetroid: Can one unrequire?
[13:07] LordMetroid: I want to reload the required module during execution
[13:07] CarterL: has anyone used cloudant?
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[13:12] tmedema: SubStack: hey, do you know what causes that watch issue with relative requires in browserify?
[13:13] chjj: LordMetroid: you can remove the cached module
[13:13] chjj: LordMetroid: and then require again
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[13:14] dscape: any recommendations for offline storage?
[13:14] chjj: LordMetroid: it would look like `var path = require.resolve('mymodule'); delete require.cache[path];`
[13:14] dscape: indexeddb and stuff?
[13:14] LordMetroid: chjj: thanks
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[13:31] robinduckett: yo
[13:32] robinduckett: anyone know how to get the session ID from express before rendering a view?
[13:32] robinduckett: micheil: ping perhaps? or are you sleeping? (as you should be!)
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[13:49] mattopenstack: does anyone have any experiencing in recruiting a server-side node.js developer, unfortunately it would seem listing javascript has attracted mainly frontend devs that know a little bit of jQuery (without even understanding why/how jQuery works)
[13:49] stride: hehe
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[14:52] ctl: Is there something similar to @include in Sass for Stylus?
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[14:54] jonaslund: mattopenstack: Just recruit competent people, now if you specifically want node.js developers without having anyone who is competent heading the team you shouldn't be using it yet.
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[14:54] jonaslund: mattopenstack: that person would be able to tell what people you should hire
[14:55] jonaslund: mattopenstack: otherwise think hard about your project and team and what you really should be doing
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[14:55] jonaslund: mattopenstack: node (and neither is any other technology) is a magic device that will help you do anything you desire easily.
[14:56] jonaslund: mattopenstack: node however is a new project under heavy development that will require some levels of bug hunting with
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[14:58] mattopenstack: jonaslund, thanks Ive been using node since earlier days but during the node 0.2.x (dec last year when certain bugs we're 'well fix that in 0.3/0.4 and then library were sticking with 0.2 until 0.4' we were stuck) we switched to Python, now things are mature and for a greenfield we are using NodeJS 0.4x this time round, Im looking to bring someone on board to 
[14:58] habblelabble: 3/0 = Infinity
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[15:00] jonaslund: mattopenstack: 0.5 is a rather big overhaul of some of the internals
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[15:01] mattopenstack: yeah but core api have stabilized, so im comfortable adopting nodejs now, and stuff like Kue just saved me a few days
[15:01] jonaslund: ok so you do part of the development yourself ?
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[15:02] mattopenstack: yes. its just me at the moment and trying to recruit someone else in Thailand to assist full time. 
[15:02] DrPizza_: I don't think it's guaranteed  that there won't be occasional semantic and capability changes from the 0.5 development
[15:02] jonaslund: why thailand ?
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[15:04] mattopenstack: Sun, beer, women. But if you mean why not remote, its quite lonely working physically alone, a office environment with more than 1 person will help me I believe in addition to sharing the development responsiblities
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[15:19] tmedema: Should anti-xss checks always be done on the receiving client side? Or is there a reason to perform them on the server side?
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[15:28] tmedema: chris: hi there, chriso from github?
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[15:30] marcello3d: wow, colloquy is running like crap on lion
[15:30] marcello3d: super slow and the screen doesn't repaint unless I resize it
[15:30] jvolkman: 
ACTION isn't excited about installing lion

[15:31] jamescarr_: damn it
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[15:31] jamescarr_: my joyent instance stopped workin
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[15:31] marcello3d: it used to work fine on lion, not sure what's up
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[15:32] jkj_: i quite like lion
[15:33] marcello3d: gonna try limechat, anyone used that?
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[15:33] jkj_: our contest irc client is not quite ready yet :(
[15:33] jkj_: hopefully in nine hours
[15:34] jvolkman: 
ACTION uses weechat

[15:34] jkj_: irssi2 icecapd running on personal or hosted shell server and a web ui... the irc is persisted
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[15:38] marcello4d: this UI is nuts
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[15:39] marcello4d: I dig it though, super clean
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[15:42] marcello3d: and it's on the app store which is convenient
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[15:51] uptownben: Anyone know if there are any performance differences between the different MongoDB modules?
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[15:56] marcello3d: probably
[15:58] marcello3d: uptownben: which ones are you looking at and why?
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[15:59] uptownben: I am currently looking at Mongoose, mainly because it seems pretty understandable and the DBRef things looks pretty cool.
[15:59] uptownben: just havent seen much in terms of speed/performance comparisons
[16:00] jamescarr_: uptownben, mongoose is the SHIT
[16:00] jamescarr_: however, I use both mongoose and mongodb-native
[16:01] jamescarr_: mongoose for ORM, mongodb-native for GridFS
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[16:02] uptownben: what makes you use mongodb-native?
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[16:04] teadict: wow @ nowjs
[16:04] teadict: that library just solved everything I have to do with this new project
[16:04] tbranyen: nice
[16:04] teadict: sweet
[16:05] DrMcKay: teadict: wow, that's nice
[16:05] DrMcKay: teadict: thanks for mentioning it :)
[16:05] teadict: DrMcKay: you guys didn't know about it?
[16:06] teadict: it creates a namespace between server and client and syncs everything in real time with all connections... it's plainly awesome!
[16:06] DrMcKay: teadict: I didn't
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[16:06] jamesw: what library teadict?
[16:06] DrMcKay: it's way better than ajax, it seams
[16:07] teadict: it's great for this app I'm going to be doing where there's a list of tasks that need to be coopertively taken cared of, so notifications come and go, wow, I¡'m so relieved right now
[16:07] vicapow: anyone have good examples of using promises?
[16:08] teadict: jamesw: http://nowjs.com/
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[16:08] vicapow: :mrryanjohnston yo dude!
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[16:09] vicapow: mrryanjohnston: yo dude!
[16:11] navaru: hey, does anynone know a good book about Javascript UI? how to deal with menus, windows, tabs in a large application?
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[16:11] navaru: or some articles, anything that shows some patterns or good practices
[16:11] Coderah: navaru: google is your book! :)
[16:12] dturnbull: navaru: I like closure http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920001416
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[16:13] navaru: dturnbull: thank you
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[16:14] navaru: Coderah: I've read a lot of articles and at some extent authors just have their own way of doing things, I've used backbone.js for some small applications but this is not enoght, I need some better patterns for inspiration :)
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[16:17] dturnbull: navaru: closure won't disappoint.  here's a build tool that might save you some time getting started: http://www.closure-script.com/
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[16:19] navaru: dturnbull: thanks!
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[16:30] jamescarr_: any idea why in the world my response time would take forever in an express route when I redirect right away before issuing a save command on a mongodb object?
[16:30] jamescarr_: if I take the save out it works fine
[16:32] jamescarr_: goddamn
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[16:33] jamescarr_: is there a way for me to inspect wtf is taking up so much memory?
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[16:37] jamescarr_: hmmm
[16:37] jamescarr_: accessing req.session takes eternity
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[16:44] tnlogy: hi, I'm trying out expressjs, but they views don't seem to work for me. it says "Cannot find module 'jade'" or 'ejs' when I tried that view renderer. any idea why?
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[16:45] tnlogy: works fine to call require('jade'), but no luck when using it in expressjs..
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[16:51] jamescarr_: mape's boilerplate app...
[16:51] jamescarr_: WAS A TRAP!!!
[16:52] mape: jamescarr_: broke?
[16:52] jamescarr_: mape, nah, just didn't spent the time to understand it fully
[16:52] jamescarr_: we keep hitting weird situations
[16:52] mape: with what part?
[16:52] jamescarr_: like right now when there is an error on the serverside, it times out and runs out of memory rather than show me wha the error was
[16:53] mape: hmm that seems strange, never had that
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[16:56] jamescarr_: yeah, it's a little frustrating
[16:57] jamescarr_: ish I knew why it was
[16:57] mape: jamescarr_: at a specific route?
[16:57] jamescarr_: any route
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[17:00] jamescarr_: yeah, it never responds when there is a serverside error... it keeps loading before eventually giving me FATAL ERROR: JS Allocation failed - process out of memory
[17:00] jamescarr_:  on the console
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[17:01] mape: jamescarr_: I've never had that so I would start at the new code
[17:01] mape: something recursive perhaps?
[17:02] jamescarr_: hmmm
[17:02] jamescarr_: my teammates had some issues with stuff in server.js that they had to comment out in the beginning
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[17:02] miels: Anyone here use upstart/monit on webbynode?
[17:04] mape: jamescarr_: hmm.. and you shouldn't have DummyHelper at the start
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[17:04] mape: "Initiate this after all other routing is done, otherwise wildcard will go crazy."
[17:04] jamescarr_: we commented it out
[17:05] jamescarr_: what is DummyHelper?
[17:05] mape: ah yeah, sry, just woke up
[17:05] mape: it allows you to develop the site without reloading when you update css/js/templates
[17:05] garrensmith: is there a simple way of limiting someone from logged into a website from more than one computer at a time? 
[17:06] miels: garrensmith: check if someone is already logged on with that username before granting them access. Why do you want to do that anyway? Most sites nowadays allow that given how many different connected devices people have and use at one time (desktop, laptop, iPhone, iPad, etc.)
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[17:08] garrensmith: miels: Not me its a requirement for an app I'm contracted to build. 
[17:08] miels: garrensmith: oh okay. Might be worth talking to them on that one. 
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[17:10] jamescarr_: heh
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[17:10] jamescarr_: might need to make an emergency migration off of joyent ;S
[17:10] miels: Anyone here use upstart/monit on webbynode? I'm following this tutorial (http://howtonode.org/deploying-node-upstart-monit) and upstart isn't working at all. I can't do 'start service'
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[17:22] CrisO: any thoughts on expresso vs. nodeunit? 
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[17:31] Croms: miels: Use 'sudo start app' if you're not root. If you're root just do 'start app'. With 'app' being the name of your .conf script in etc/init.
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[17:45] arlolra: when i call end() on a writestream, should an 'end' event fire
[17:45] arlolra: ?
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[18:04] DrMcKay: weird.
[18:04] DrMcKay: does new Error('blah') throw?
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[18:08] TooTallNate: DrMcKay: no
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[18:09] teadict: npm -g is for global, right?
[18:09] teadict: npm will look up the location of my node compilation and put it in that node_modules repo, right?
[18:09] DrMcKay: TooTallNate: thanks. it's just weird, whenever I pass it to callback, I get a stack trace dump, it just looks like an exception
[18:09] isaacs: teadict: yeah
[18:09] teadict: if its local install (no -g), then it goes to the current folder
[18:09] teadict: isaacs: great, ty
[18:09] isaacs: teadict: bingo
[18:09] isaacs: np
[18:10] teadict: 
ACTION asks simple questions to establish basic important knowledge

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[18:10] visnup: tbassetto: are you listening on 0.0.0.0?
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[18:10] tbassetto: now yes :) we didn't think about that…
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[18:12] visnup: tbassetto: netstat -tna
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[18:13] tbassetto: sorry, I wasn't clear enough. We are now listening on 0.0.0.0 and it works. Errr, almost. We have another error now.
[18:13] teadict: does npm needs cleanning sometimes like apt-get autoclean or that kind of stuff?
[18:13] teadict: cache or whatever
[18:13] isaacs: teadict: you can clean the cache if you really want to, but it's not necessary
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[18:13] teadict: 'irght
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[18:14] isaacs: teadict: it's a trade-off between speed and space
[18:14] teadict: gotcha
[18:14] isaacs: npm does Etag caching, so it'll invalidate automatically
[18:14] tbassetto: visnup: my colleague, sylvinus,  is working on it
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[18:15] teadict: isaacs: I assume it's always best to install things globally but really study if you'll use it beforehand, right? as opposed to get a whole bunch of different locations dirty across a project or different projects
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[18:15] teadict: isaacs: (for a beginner at least)
[18:16] isaacs: well, i mean, "dirty" is a relative term here
[18:16] teadict: with no crazy needs
[18:16] isaacs: i kinda like having different projects isolated.
[18:16] teadict: change it for deorganized
[18:16] isaacs: but i also use `npm link` a lot
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[18:16] isaacs: :)
[18:16] teadict: oh
[18:16] isaacs: if you install it globally, you'll still have to link it or install locally to require() it
[18:16] teadict: 
ACTION reads man on link, likes it

[18:16] teadict: emm.. oh
[18:17] teadict: then for a beginner it's better to isolate projects and install everything in each one
[18:17] teadict: I'll play with link later
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[18:20] miels: Croms: I've tried that but it says unknown job
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[18:21] teadict: isaacs: installing modules under /some/path makes them available recursively, right? or did I just tried out that wrong
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[18:21] isaacs: teadict: not sure what you mean
[18:22] isaacs: if it's in /foo/node_modules, then /foo/bar/blah.js can require() it
[18:22] teadict: I've got a reference from /playground/subdir/index.html to <script src="/now/now.js" /> but npm modules are in /playground/node_modules
[18:22] Croms: miels: I've had that before. If I remember correctly something was wrong in the script.
[18:22] teadict: it still loads now.js
[18:22] teadict: isaacs: great
[18:23] teadict: isaacs: and it can use the root path since its a installed module
[18:23] teadict: not one of my own
[18:23] isaacs: teadict: i don't know anything aboutnow.js
[18:23] teadict: nvm
[18:23] teadict: works
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[18:26] miels: Croms: http://pastebin.com/vkYurQGD 
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[18:28] Croms: miels: Checkin'.
[18:28] Croms: miels: Are you running Express?
[18:29] miels: Croms: yea
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[18:31] Croms: miels: Replace the 'node' after 'NODE_ENV=production' with its absolute path. Then try again.
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[18:35] miels: Croms: still didn't work. On my ubuntu installation I didn't have an /etc/init. Only an /etc/init.d. So I made init and put it in there
[18:35] miels: Croms: does that have something to do with it? Do I need to reboot?
[18:35] Croms: miels: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:35] sylvinus: gerad: can we use both no.de instance & linode instances for the duration of the voting ?
[18:36] gerad: yes
[18:36] gerad: but make sure that you only have the require('nko') deployed to one of them
[18:36] miels: Croms: Ubuntu 8.10
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[18:37] gerad: or, at the very least that it has the correct domain when you make it votable
[18:37] sylvinus: gerad: yes, ok. thx!
[18:38] sylvinus: we're using joyent as our compute farm bootstrap :)
[18:38] Croms: miels: I don't really have any knowledge of Ubuntu prior to 10.04. Did you 'sudo apt-get install upstart'?
[18:38] miels: Croms: yea but upstart was already installed. I suppose I could try uninstalling and installing it
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[18:39] Croms: miels: Yeah, try that.
[18:39] CrabDude: anyone know how to get the raw "GET /misc HTTP/1.1\r\n …." request and not the parsed req.headers, req.method etc…. in http.ServerRequest?
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[18:41] miels: Croms: that didn't help..
[18:42] Croms: miels: Did you make the .conf script executable?
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[18:43] miels: Croms: yea it's executable
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[18:44] Croms: miels: Try this script: http://pastebin.com/JcZwQyYT Replace the location of the node executable (after exec) with yours.
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[18:46] Croms: miels: If that doesn't help try creating '/var/log/node.log' and give it write permissions (if it's not already created).
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[18:47] Croms: miels: And if that doesn't help, update to 10.04. ;—)
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[18:47] DrMcKay: !seen caolan
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[18:47] DrMcKay: no seen bot running here?
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[18:48] miels: Croms: okay I'll try that. Thanks. I still don't understand why the error is "start: Unknown job: nodeServer" 
[18:48] TheJH: DrMcKay, which caolan do you want to talk to? I think that there are two, and the one called "caolan" on github has another name here
[18:49] TheJH: DrMcKay, but I'm not sure
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[18:49] TheJH: DrMcKay, the caolan from gh is caolanm here
[18:50] TheJH: DrMcKay, about caolanm: -NickServ- Last seen  : Aug 27 05:47:13 2011 (1 day, 13:02:52 ago)
[18:51] Croms: miels: It's probably the installation of Upstart.
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[18:53] miels: Croms: Okay thanks. I'll look at how I can configure and install it from source instead of apt-get
[18:53] andyandy_: hey has anyone deployed a node.js app on heroku using mongohq?
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[18:53] DrMcKay: TheJH: ah, thanks
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[18:56] Croms: miels: Put the .conf file in '/etc/event.d'. Try again.
[18:57] miels: Croms: tried that :(
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[18:59] Croms: miels: Try #ubuntu perhaps. I'm all out of ideas.
[18:59] miels: Croms: yea no one is giving me any ideas over there. lol Thanks though I appreciate it :)
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[19:01] marcello3d: hello everybody!
[19:02] Croms: miels: You'll figure it out sooner or later.
[19:02] miels: Croms: thanks :)
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[19:04] marcello3d: how goes knockout? is there an irc chan?
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[19:09] gkatsev: https://twitter.com/#!/DEVOPS_BORAT/status/107858899742359552
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[19:12] jamescarr_: so anyone get their socket.io issues resolved on joyent?
[19:14] TooTallNate: marcello3d: #nodeknockout
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[19:14] marcello3d: cheers
[19:14] marcello3d: anything cool up yet?
[19:16] tuhoojabotti: gkatsev: Heh.
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[19:21] marcello3d: no? everything sucks? D:
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[19:22] Nuck: Morning/afternoon
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[19:27] DrMcKay: Nuck: btw, what company, if I may ask?
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[19:27] Nuck: My startup?
[19:28] Nuck: Unnamed startup 439
[19:28] DrMcKay: Nuck: ah, I didn't know you're doing a startup
[19:28] DrMcKay: Nuck: good luck :)
[19:28] Nuck: :P 
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[19:29] jamescarr_: http://comorichweb.no.de/
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[19:29] jamescarr_: got a presentation up
[19:29] jamescarr_: our slide editor is getting there :)
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[19:46] LordMetroid: Why so many g21... people?
[19:47] jamescarr_: g21?
[19:47] jamescarr_: I was going to ask why so quiet?
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[19:47] LordMetroid: For g2117 and so forth
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[19:48] LordMetroid: I also find this channel very quite
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[19:49] DrMcKay: I wonder what MrNko will be doing...
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[19:49] stephank: LordMetroid: they're all NKO nodes doing... something... with a client called icecap apparently.
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[19:50] LordMetroid: ahaa
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[19:53] LordMetroid: for require, do I ought to do something special asynchronous when make a require()?
[19:54] tbranyen: wat
[19:54] jkj_: LordMetroid: sri :D
[19:54] stephank: LordMetroid: looks like it's just one team for all the g* users, fwiw
[19:54] LordMetroid: ohh dear, that sentence was terrible
[19:54] jkj_: LordMetroid: we are leakin users
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[19:54] stephank: hah, there you go
[19:54] LordMetroid: I am doing a lot of requiring of modules
[19:54] jkj_: there is a local libnss-ldap and ldapjs for accounts
[19:54] jheusala: heh
[19:54] jkj_: irssi2 icecapd for irc
[19:54] jheusala: g* are our users
[19:55] jkj_: accounts are in couchdb
[19:55] LordMetroid: Will that be a problem? Should I write something asynchronously when I make a require?
[19:55] jheusala: I guess it's not working as well as it should be
[19:55] stephank: doesn't freenode complain about so many connections from a single host?
[19:55] jkj_: currently there is a bit of a problem though
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[19:55] jkj_: but there is still time :D
[19:55] jkj_: i'll drop the clients
[19:55] stephank: hah
[19:56] LordMetroid: Woooow
[19:56] LordMetroid: that was scary
[19:56] jkj_: fixing
[19:56] jheusala: stephank: actually with our system you can use your own shell, too :-)
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[19:56] jkj_: we are just hosting the account for demo purposes
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[19:56] jheusala: yeah
[19:57] stephank: jheusala: Cool. Well, was just pointing it out, would be a shame to get blacklisted by the network in the last couple of hours. :B
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[20:03] Nuck: God I love the turntable.fm for NKO.  So diverse yet so similar.
[20:03] Nuck: There's gangsta rap and dubstep, but there's also Gogol Bordello.
[20:03] omni5cience__: I'm getting a weird error trying to deploy to no.de svcadm: Instance "svc:/site/node-service:default" is in maintenance state.
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[20:09] isaacs: omni5cience: ssh in and run `node-service-restart`
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[20:09] isaacs: omni5cience: or check the log in `node-service-log`
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[20:10] isaacs: https://gist.github.com/1177152
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[20:14] nickgreenie: hey how do you access the body on a basic http request????
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[20:18] robot_jesus: isaacs, do you mind if I use that font for my site
[20:18] isaacs: what font?
[20:18] robot_jesus: "gubblebum-blocky", monospace
[20:18] Nuck: gubblebum-blocky?
[20:18] Nuck: lol
[20:18] isaacs: robot_jesus: you don't need my permission :)
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[20:19] robot_jesus: kk
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[20:20] robot_jesus: Im also using your install method, I <3 it!
[20:20] jamescarr_: is there something that lets me inspect the objects created in a node instance?
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[20:20] robot_jesus: sys.inspect ?
[20:20] isaacs: robot_jesus: if you use gubblebum blocky red-on-white with a three-letter nacronym to refer to a package manager, we may have issues :)
[20:20] robot_jesus: oh all objects
[20:20] robot_jesus: hehe ok
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[20:23] jamescarr_: http://comorichweb.no.de/deck/embed/4e5a9508be4e74c83800012e
[20:23] jamescarr_: go now :)
[20:23] marcello3d: it's short on my screen
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[20:23] marcello3d: like 150 pixels or so
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[20:24] jamescarr_: marcello3d, screenshot?
[20:24] jamescarr_: or did you just make your brower real small to antagonize me
[20:24] marcello3d: no, maximized
[20:24] marcello3d: it's just the slideshow part that's small
[20:24] marcello3d: in fact the height perfectly fits the text from the first slide
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[20:25] marcello3d: let me upload
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[20:25] robot_jesus: same here
[20:26] marcello3d: bah. min.us not working
[20:26] marcello3d: any other quick upload sites?
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[20:27] marcello3d: nevermind, you'll just have to imagine it :)
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[20:35] robot_jesus: http://img189.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img189/584/screenshotslidespotthes.png
[20:37] stephank: Man, V8 is so awesome.
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[20:38] stephank: I can actually FunctionTemplate#Inherits and the base #HasInstance will return true for a subclass instance.
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[20:40] stephank: I'm now generating working bindings from crude YAML input that looks like this: http://privatepaste.com/a80f28dcbf
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[20:40] paveq: hm
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[20:42] marcello3d: stephank: as an aside, familiar with node-canvas?
[20:42] stephank: Most importantly, I don't have to write cruft that builds the function template and prototype, I don't have to parse parameters (overload + automatic unpacking) and inheritance appears to work now. :)
[20:42] marcello3d: (it uses cairo)
[20:43] stephank: marcello3d: I do. My goal was actually to hook that up with SDL.
[20:43] stephank: I side-tracked to plain cairo bindings, and I'll probably make an experimental branch of node-cairo in pure-js.
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[20:43] Ratty_: hmz
[20:43] jkj_: now not generating those for a while :P
[20:43] jkj_: until it works
[20:44] jkj_: sri for flood
[20:44] Ratty_: you could get klined for that
[20:44] rendar: node-cairo? for using libcairo with java script? :)
[20:44] stephank: jkj_: alternatively, just send them to a different channel? That'd allow you to test still.
[20:44] stephank: rendar: yessir
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[20:44] rendar: cool
[20:45] Ratty_: Yeah, send them to #php
[20:45] stephank: hah
[20:45] jkj_: :D
[20:46] jkj_: Ratty_: yeah. those are real users, but they cannot really interact with anyone :P
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[20:49] hkjels: why is it that in jade, this: - note.file = 'notes\/'+note.title+'.md'; becomes .mdes/The title ?
[20:50] hkjels: it should have been notes/The title.md right?
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[20:50] necrodearia: Does anyone know how to make use of this?  I'm new to node.js and do not understand what I am doing wrong.  https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io#readme     at the very beginning: var io = require('socket.io');             this produces error in firefox: require is not defined
[20:51] necrodearia: In an html file parsed with apache2 webserver I have:   <script src="/js/socket.io.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
[20:52] jesusabdullah: necrodearia: You do the require server-side, not client-side
[20:52] necrodearia: hmm
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[20:52] jesusabdullah: I haven't really used socket.io but that I do know
[20:53] necrodearia: So <script src="/socket.io/socket.io.js"></script>    which is in client side code...
[20:53] jesusabdullah: right
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[20:54] necrodearia: How do I reference the server side code then?  This is confusing to me.
[20:54] necrodearia: I'm using apache2.
[20:54] jesusabdullah: shouldn't you be serving your socket.io code from your node server?
[20:54] robot_jesus: libcairo
[20:54] robot_jesus: wow
[20:55] necrodearia: ah, I must learn how to use node.js then.
[20:55] jesusabdullah: indeed.
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[21:06] XniX23: is no.de free or do they charge when you order a machine?
[21:06] isaacs: XniX23: you get a 128MB machine for free.
[21:06] isaacs: 5GB disk, and more CPU than you'll ever use
[21:07] marcello3d: heh, every time I take a break from node.js, I need to rewrite all my code to work with the latest versions of all the modules I use
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[21:07] XniX23: isaacs: thank you!
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[21:11] necrodearia: hmm, I `npm install express`ed and line with --> var app = express.createServer(); <-- causes error --> ReferenceError: express is not defined
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[21:11] necrodearia: error comes from `node <myscriptfile>`
[21:12] necrodearia: http://privatepaste.com/c564956737
[21:12] alindeman: Need to do something like var express = require("express")
[21:12] stride: damn, beat me :)
[21:13] alindeman: Check out http://expressjs.com/guide.html for full details
[21:13] necrodearia: ah, that makes sense
[21:15] isaacs: necrodearia: var express = require("express")
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[21:19] jkj-nko: plop
[21:19] jkj-nko: hello
[21:19] jkj_: !!!!!
[21:19] jkj_: it wurks
[21:20] jkj_: unpossible
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[21:21] francois: help -> https://gist.github.com/1177240
[21:23] necrodearia: Following "How to use" section at https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io#readme if I execute `node socket.io.js` where socket.io.js contains http://privatepaste.com/bb8a56d4b0 and then want to load it (what is it?, socket.io.js file again? the running node.js process?  something else?) from client side, how do I reference it?  Referencing the file socket.io.js in an html file handle by apache2 still shows "require is not defined"
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[21:25] navaru: francois: [ Permission denied] , you don't have sh permission to exectute the file
[21:25] jkj_: testing http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/krapula-aamu_by_humon.jpg
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[21:29] jkj_: http://kapsi.fi/~oh8glv/nko-oulu-irc.png
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[21:31] jkj-nko: testing
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[21:36] EricL: I'm trying to debug a module for Node.js written in C++. How do I do a console.log or write to stdout (or the like) from the C++ module?
[21:37] tbranyen: EricL: printf
[21:37] tbranyen: EricL: what module?
[21:37] EricL: tbranyen: I guess that's why cout wasn't working.
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[21:38] softdrink: gdb like a boss
[21:38] EricL: tbranyen: Something my company is writing in house.
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[21:38] EricL: softdrink: The problem with gdb is that it can't inspect the contents of a v8 variable.
[21:38] tbranyen: ah okay
[21:39] EricL: tbranyen: We need to get around the 1G v8 heap space limit.
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[21:39] softdrink: I was mostly kidding.  gdb is a bit of a mystery to me
[21:39] EricL: softdrink: I wish I could use gdb, but all I get is memory addresses.
[21:39] EricL: I wish I knew how the v8 guys developed.
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[21:40] tbranyen: EricL: ah
[21:41] softdrink: they develop with black magic and voodoo
[21:41] EricL: printf doesn't seem to work.
[21:41] TheJH: verry black magik
[21:41] EricL: Did you mean printf in JS or printf in C++?
[21:41] jkj_: production@li298-178:~/oulu/website/views$ git pull
[21:41] jkj_: Already up-to-date. Yeeah!
[21:41] jkj_: production@li298-178:~/oulu/website/views$ git pull
[21:41] jkj_: Already up-to-date.
[21:42] jkj_: git easter egg?-)
[21:42] TheJH: jkj_, :D
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[21:43] Nuck: ugh
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[21:43] Nuck: Gotta make my parser handle headers now :(
[21:43] Nuck: But first,my round on turntable.fm is approaching fast!
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[21:49] DrMcKay: jkj_: yes, builtin/merge.c
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[21:52] CIA-69: node: 03Peter Lyons 07master * ra4eee3d 10/ (lib/http.js lib/http2.js): 
[21:52] CIA-69: node: http: remove 'headers sent?' check in OutgoingMessage.getHeader()
[21:52] CIA-69: node: Fixes #752. - http://git.io/hyzukQ
[21:52] CIA-69: node: 03Peter Lyons 07master * rd2defa3 10/ test/simple/test-http-header-read.js : test: test for issue #752 - http://git.io/arLtWw
[21:56] necrodearia: `npm install -d` fails      http://privatepaste.com/0f5c31f65d
[21:56] necrodearia: /home/necro/package.json doesn't exist.  How can I create it?
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[21:57] XniX23: anyone knows which host should i connect to if i have app on no.de ? (im using socket.io)
[21:58] jkj-nko: XniX23: on the browser side: you don't have to tell it
[21:58] maushu: necrodearia, what does that command do?
[21:58] necrodearia: maushu, npm?
[21:58] maushu: install -d
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[21:58] necrodearia: install dependencies I believe
[21:59] XniX23: jkj-nko: so i just do io.connect() ?
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[21:59] necrodearia: According to http://expressjs.com/guide.html
[21:59] robot_jesus: necrodearia, you seem to be in your home directory
[21:59] robot_jesus: you need to change into whatever you downloaded's directory
[21:59] maushu: ^
[22:00] robot_jesus: also, just "npm install express" , you usually dont need to download the source
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[22:00] maushu: necrodearia, that package.json tells npm what is that package is about.
[22:00] necrodearia: You're welcome to see my previous issue (which is quite long) to see what I'm trying to do.
[22:00] necrodearia: from about 30mins ago or so
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[22:03] Nuck: I think buffertools should be built into Node
[22:03] XniX23: anyone? if i leave host blank it doesnt work
[22:03] Nuck: Seriously, that shit is awesome.
[22:03] robot_jesus: link ?
[22:03] robot_jesus: XniX23, localhost ?
[22:04] Nuck: I'm sure you can do 0.0.0.0
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[22:05] jamescarr_: I gots zero votes
[22:06] robot_jesus: jamescarr_, ?
[22:06] jamescarr_: so are votes not enabled until after the competition ends?
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[22:07] bnoordhuis: EricL: C++ - and go with fprintf(stderr)
[22:07] necrodearia: maushu, ah, I see, thanks
[22:07] jamescarr_: unfortunately now I got to go :S
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[22:08] XniX23: robot_jesus: "localhost" works on my machine, but doesnt on server
[22:09] robot_jesus: XniX23, no, it wouldn't
[22:09] XniX23: sorry?
[22:09] robot_jesus: XniX23, make a config file, production and development, for production put the server's IP, for development make it localhost 
[22:09] robot_jesus: or domain
[22:09] robot_jesus: probably dommain
[22:10] tnlogy: with jade, in my template, can I use a javascript string as input to the jade parser in the view? like an include, but from the string?
[22:10] xyxne: <a href="#" mouseover="alert('ohai')">lolwat</a>
[22:10] xyxne: aww
[22:10] robot_jesus: XniX23,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost , localhost is just shorthand for your machines IP
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[22:10] robot_jesus: XniX23, sort of, it's a loopback address - but achieves the same hting
[22:12] EricL: bnoordhuis: Trying, thanks.
[22:12] XniX23: robot_jesus: i know what localhost is, i just thought it will work heh, ty ill try the domain
[22:14] EricL: bnoordhuis: That's not working either.  I must have something else going wrong.
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[22:14] bnoordhuis: EricL: fopen a log file and fprintf to that?
[22:15] bnoordhuis: EricL: if that doesn't work either, you know that line of code simply isn't hit
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[22:17] te-brian: I have some express views that use jqtpl.  In these views I need to output some jqtpl markup for the browser.  How do I escape the markup so expres does not strip out the template variables on the server side?
[22:17] micheil: isaacs: hmm.. is that your room on meedie?
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[22:17] micheil: *meendie
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[22:18] jkj-nko: yawning
[22:18] te-brian: In other words ... I need express to actually send "Name: ${name}" not "Name: "
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[22:21] EricL: bnoordhuis: Good call.  Trying that.
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[22:23] jkj-nko: test
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[22:24] d3x7r0: Does anyone know of a node/javascript equivalent of base64_url_decode from php?
[22:24] EricL: bnoordhuis: Hmm...Turns out that block of code just wasn't being hit.
[22:25] jkj-nko: testing some more
[22:25] bnoordhuis: d3x7r0: create a buffer from the base64 input
[22:26] bnoordhuis: !doc buffer
[22:26] bnoordhuis: bloody bot :/
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[22:30] francois: help -> https://gist.github.com/1177240
[22:30] francois: isaacs: http://gamesjs.com:8888/play/abcdef123
[22:31] francois: isaacs: https://gist.github.com/1177240
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[22:34] jkj-nko: testing
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[22:34] jkj-nko: testing some more
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[22:38] necrodearia: Instead of $ npm install -g express      $ express /tmp/foo && cd /tmp/foo    how can I execute express from local user installation?  So that I can do something like `npm run express /tmp/foo` maybe?
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[22:41] chorrell: francis, in your server/app.js code
[22:41] chorrell: try changing this  var port = 8080;
[22:41] chorrell: to
[22:42] chorrell: var port = process.env.PORT || 8080;
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[22:44] chorrell: francis 
[22:44] chorrell: also, in your package.json file
[22:44] chorrell: change "start": "server/app.js"
[22:44] chorrell: to "start": "node server/app.js"
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[22:45] chorrell: that's why you are getting perm error
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[22:48] robinduckett: anyone from the london nko event online?
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[22:52] jkj-nko: getting close
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[22:52] philipmat: hello! has anybody here installed v0.5.5 via homebrew and could spare an advice on how to do it? (latest version listed by brew info node is v0.4.10).
[22:53] jkj-nko: brew install --HEAD node  ... works?
[22:53] jkj-nko: or brew install node --HEAD
[22:53] philipmat: @jkj-nko  haven't tried that - didn't know about it. 1 sec please
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[22:54] philipmat: I tried 
[22:54] jkj-nko: if there is repository url in "brew edit node", then --HEAD pulls from the repo
[22:54] philipmat: # brew info node --HEAD
[22:54] philipmat: node HEAD
[22:54] philipmat: http://nodejs.org/
[22:54] philipmat: usr/local/Cellar/node/0.4.10 (72 files, 7.6M)
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[22:55] philipmat: brew edit node has 
[22:55] philipmat:   3 class Node < Formula
[22:55] philipmat:    4   url 'http://nodejs.org/dist/node-v0.4.10.tar.gz'
[22:55] philipmat:    5   head 'https://github.com/joyent/node.git'
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[22:57] chorrell: francois: sorry, got your name wrong. In your package.json file change "start": "server/app.js" to "start": "node server/app.js"
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[22:59] philipmat: thank you @jkj-nko - i think brew upgrade node --HEAD works
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[23:06] jkj-nko: Does this work now?
[23:06] jkj-nko: does it plz? :)
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[23:06] nickaugust: whoops i went a couple minutes over on my last push!
[23:06] nickaugust: doest that disqualify me?
[23:06] nickaugust: yikes
[23:07] philipmat: @jkj-nko  - i think it does.
[23:07] jkj-nko: nickaugust: off by one (hour) ?
[23:07] philipmat: sorry if you weren't talking to me :)
[23:07] nickaugust: oh do I have another hour?
[23:07] nickaugust: wait... 
[23:08] jkj-nko: ...is still want to try this client with the magical g???? users
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[23:08] nickaugust: ah still one more hour?  whats up with my gmail...
[23:09] robinduckett: nickaugust: it is on until 1AM BST or 12 GMT
[23:09] nickaugust: is there another hour?  heh.. what the heck
[23:09] robinduckett: I just got a tweet one hour left
[23:09] nickaugust: ok ok... thanks robinduckett 
[23:09] robinduckett: http://twitter.com/#!/node_knockout/status/107950515849150464
[23:09] robinduckett: 9 minutes ago
[23:09] robinduckett: so 50 minutes left
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[23:15] fairwinds: hi. have  a question about node modules with Windows. If I develop on xp, can the node_modules be used on Vista and Windows 7
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[23:16] paveq: test
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[23:17] bnoordhuis: fairwinds: native or JS modules?
[23:17] g2401: teset
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[23:18] g2401: hi :)
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[23:19] fairwinds: paveq: I have access only to xp for the moment on a virtual machine otherwise would do. I am looking to use some things that have wrapped such as imagemagic
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[23:21] g2404: Another one noms the dust
[23:21] fairwinds: am using the ryppi for my modules
[23:22] g2404: We bring you: http://nko-oulu.kapsi.fi/
[23:22] g2404: --jkj
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[23:23] jkj_: it takes some moments for the ball to go green
[23:23] jkj_: green balls are green
[23:24] paveq: balls of steel :)
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[23:24] g2401: :)
[23:24] g2405: just checking this out
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[23:24] jkj_: our nicks are a bit dull
[23:24] jkj_: no nick change yet :(
[23:24] g2408: Hello?
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[23:24] paveq: g2405: does it work well?
[23:24] jkj_: ...without custom icecapd
[23:24] paveq: hi :)
[23:25] g2408: boo
[23:25] g2408: Works nicely!
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[23:27] jkj_: you can well have you own irssi2 icecapd on you own shell server... and use our web thingy as front end
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[23:34] sneakyness: yo guys, I'm reading through the usage section of this spine.app on github. When he starts his server, he uses the command "hem", what is that? 
[23:34] sneakyness: https://github.com/maccman/spine.app
[23:36] sneakyness: nvm, I found it. I was trying to search npm from the command line and nothing was appearing
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[23:38] g2404: hm
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[23:42] sneakyness: now it's telling me it can't find module spine? wtf O_o
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[23:45] Sorella: sneakyness, you might want to require head and torso first :3 -kidding
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[23:46] sneakyness: heh
[23:46] sneakyness: I have no idea what's going wrong here, none of this new stuff seems to be very well documented or supported 
[23:46] Sorella: sneakyness, is the spine module reachable from the location you're requiring it, as in, in a node_modules folder above the current directory, or globally installed?
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[23:46] sneakyness: it's globally installed
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[23:47] sneakyness: (I haven't written JS since like jquery 1.4 coming out was a big deal) 
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[23:47] Acolyte: because it is WIP, sneakyness
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[23:48] sneakyness: I understand that it's all new, I just think it's a pretty terrible first impression that I'm following the available instructions and it's failing 
[23:48] sneakyness: It's like, it went in for the handshake… and ended up punching itself in the face heh
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[23:49] tbranyen: sneakyness: http://sharefilewith.me/u/e45107.png
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[23:49] Acolyte: I believe you might be right, however situation with open source is different to that of closed ;)
[23:49] g2418: jees
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[23:50] g2418: toimiiks tää?
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[23:50] g2418: gggg
[23:50] sneakyness: tbranyen: I'm not getting that output when I type node test.js
[23:51] tbranyen: something is messed up then
[23:51] tbranyen: what npm version are you on?
[23:51] tbranyen: npmv -v
[23:51] tbranyen: npm -v *
[23:51] sneakyness: 1.0.17
[23:51] g2401: works nicely :)
[23:51] isaacs: sneakyness: too old!!
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[23:51] isaacs: sneakyness: we're 10 versions higher now!
[23:51] tbranyen: hmmm i'm on 1.0.10 and node 0.4.5
[23:51] sneakyness: wut
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[23:51] sneakyness: I just installed it yesterday
[23:51] tbranyen: so thats not the issue
[23:51] isaacs: npm search npm version
[23:51] isaacs: *view, rather
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[23:52] isaacs: $ npm view npm version
[23:52] isaacs: 1.0.27
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[23:52] sneakyness: 1.0.27
[23:52] sneakyness: O_o
[23:52] sneakyness: I like how it has two different version numbers depending on how you ask it
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[23:52] robinduckett: is there no way i can get npm to update itself?
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[23:53] g2422: rr
[23:53] isaacs: ircretary: inst robinduckett 
[23:53] ircretary: robinduckett: `curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sh` (or, if there are permission issues, you can try: `curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sudo sh`)
[23:53] isaacs: robinduckett: that installer just downloads it and then uses it to install itsefl
[23:53] isaacs: robinduckett: you can also sometimes `npm i npm -g`
[23:53] sneakyness: so I'm trying to use this spine.app thing to get off the ground faster
[23:53] dylang: Doodle or Die - http://doodle.no.de/
[23:53] g2421: lol?
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[23:53] robinduckett: isaacs: I would like to see a npm update npm or so :P
[23:53] sneakyness: when I do spine app my_app, I don't get a my_app/index.js
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[23:54] robinduckett: Did everyone see Pusher's NKO entry?
[23:54] tbranyen: nope link
[23:54] isaacs: robinduckett: npm update npm -g
[23:54] robinduckett: http://tanked.no.de
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[23:54] isaacs: robinduckett: it's globally installed
[23:54] robinduckett: their app is ridiculously good
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[23:54] robinduckett: basically worms with tanks
[23:54] robinduckett: destroyable terrain
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[23:55] tbranyen: wow
[23:55] robinduckett: also
[23:55] g2419: O_o
[23:55] robinduckett: forward's entry is also tres fucking amazing
[23:55] paveq: g2419: hi :)
[23:55] tbranyen: lol wicked glitchy robinduckett 
[23:55] robinduckett: http://nko2-forward.herokuapp.com/
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[23:56] g2419: paveq, this thing lacks tab completion and... aww.. Almost everything else that makes IRC. :P
[23:56] robinduckett: tbranyen: very fun though
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[23:56] robinduckett: and forward's entry is extremely well polished
[23:56] g2419: or does my browser just screw things up?
[23:56] g2404: g2419: True... 48h was too short for us :P
[23:56] paveq: g2419: yeah, work in progress :)
[23:56] g2419: kk
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[23:56] jheusala: g2404: it's coming as a plugin! :-)
[23:57] jheusala: true, it's not fully implemented yet.
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[23:57] robinduckett: the pusher team and the forward team were coding machines
[23:57] jheusala: we will continue working on it after the competition
[23:57] jheusala: it's also MIT
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[23:58] g2404: I wonder if we can fork the thingy before the original is fully judged? --jkj
[23:58] robinduckett: plus Forward's offices were fantastic, free food, free wine/beer/alcohol of all sorts, free red bull
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[23:58] robinduckett: they even had a shower.
[23:58] robinduckett: in the office.
[23:58] robinduckett: I used it.
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[23:59] g2426: asd