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[00:08] chjj: and no one uses substring
[00:08] chjj: !
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[00:44] CIA-104: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r09b8a5e 10/ wscript : Dont install ares_build.h or ares_rules.h - http://bit.ly/kI8XG3
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[00:53] ggg: my find on node-mongodb-native gives an object Object....how do i get a json out of it????
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[01:03] MooGoo: I have finally conquered the evil http digest authentication scheme!
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[01:03] MooGoo: and dont any of you mofos tell me there's already a module out there that does that
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[01:04] Elazar: Is hot code reloading natively supported in canonical node.js?
[01:04] MooGoo: not...really
[01:04] MooGoo: but I think you can delete entries in the require cache object
[01:04] SubStack: rpc instead!
[01:04] SubStack: easy to take processes up and down
[01:04] MooGoo: to force a reload of the file from disk
[01:04] Elazar: SubStack: Yeah, that was the other approach I was considering.
[01:05] SubStack: protip: dnode has a reconnect option
[01:05] Elazar: SubStack: I don't really know much about node's support in that respect either, though. Suggested resources?
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[01:07] ggg: my find() on node-mongodb-native gives an object Object....how do i get a json out of it????
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[01:12] iammerrick: Using jade how can I embed a variable in the same line as text, e.g. h1= Editing item.name
[01:12] iammerrick: item.name being a variable
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[01:14] iammerrick: its possible without a span right guys?
[01:14] iammerrick: I feel this ahs to be a super easy question
[01:15] antlong: hello, does anyone have a few minutes for a private chat, im trying to grasp the internals in re: to packages like zombie.js and other headless frameworks. 
[01:16] iammerrick: ahh just new line
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[01:36] fakewaffle: yo
[01:36] fakewaffle: Nexxy++
[01:36] v8bot:  fakewaffle has given a beer to Nexxy. Nexxy now has 8 beers.
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[01:37] Nexxy: o hai
[01:37] Prometheus: where can one collect these virtual beers?
[01:37] Prometheus: are they like bitcoin, but beer?
[01:37] Prometheus: =)
[01:38] fakewaffle: beercoin
[01:39] niftylettuce: Prometheus++
[01:39] v8bot:  niftylettuce has given a beer to Prometheus. Prometheus now has 1 beers.
[01:39] Prometheus: yay for imaginary beer
[01:39] Nexxy: it's like being slapped with a rather large trout
[01:39] Nexxy: but with less trout
[01:39] niftylettuce: and more stout
[01:39] Prometheus: large stout*
[01:39] Nexxy: ohhh
[01:39] niftylettuce: :X
[01:39] Prometheus: ;)
[01:39] Nexxy: I see what you did there
[01:39] Prometheus: that's a stout worthy transformation
[01:39] Prometheus: niftylettuce++
[01:39] v8bot:  Prometheus has given a beer to niftylettuce. niftylettuce now has 1 beers.
[01:39] niftylettuce: its funny because its trueee, everybody knows coffee is for freee
[01:39] Prometheus: at least down at the local starbucks
[01:39] niftylettuce: what happened to all my beer
[01:39] niftylettuce: i had a lot more than that :'(
[01:40] Nexxy: did you change your nickname slightly?
[01:40] niftylettuce: Nexxy: na
[01:40] niftylettuce: Nexxy: might be because i wasn't identified with nickserv b4
[01:40] Nexxy: I have a separate beer count for when I'm "nexxy"
[01:40] fakewaffle: Nexxy--
[01:40] v8bot:  fakewaffle has taken a beer from Nexxy. Nexxy now has 7 beers.
[01:40] Nexxy: ;<
[01:40] Nexxy: what did I do!?
[01:40] fakewaffle: stuff
[01:40] Prometheus: oh beer steals
[01:40] Prometheus: v8bot++
[01:40] v8bot:  Prometheus has given a beer to v8bot. v8bot now has 30 beers.
[01:41] Prometheus: wow
[01:41] niftylettuce: $('#things').push('forward');
[01:41] Prometheus: now I see where your beers went
[01:41] Nexxy: how do you push onto a dom element?
[01:41] Nexxy: 
ACTION mind blown

[01:41] niftylettuce: 
ACTION mind melts

[01:42] jbroman: Nexxy: jQuery objects are arrays.
[01:42] Nexxy: don't you mean wilts?
[01:42] niftylettuce: #things is secretly nexxy { loves: beer }
[01:42] niftylettuce: errr ['beer'] :X
[01:43] Nexxy: actually
[01:43] Nexxy: I prefer those Smirnoff apple bite things
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[01:43] Nexxy: so yummy
[01:44] Prometheus: what
[01:44] Prometheus: smirnoff ice stuff?
[01:44] Nexxy: yeahh!
[01:45] Prometheus: ugh
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[01:50] niftylettuce: any east coasters in here?
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[01:51] boogyman: east coaster is a relative term
[01:52] mikey_p: Nexxy++
[01:52] v8bot:  mikey_p has given a beer to Nexxy. Nexxy now has 8 beers.
[01:52] Nexxy: oh why thank you kind sir
[01:52] Nexxy: also; west coast ftw
[01:53] Aria: niftylettuce: I'm an east coaster as of two hours ago.
[01:53] Nexxy: o_o
[01:53] Nexxy: Aria, my condolences
[01:54] Aria: I don't mind it. It's Boston, not the weird-ass parts of the east coast.
[01:54] Nexxy: boahst'n?
[01:54] niftylettuce: Aria runs a blaaaag
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[01:54] Nexxy: oO I wanna see her wobsite
[01:54] niftylettuce: like SCVNGR's blag.svngr.com b/c Seth is from thur
[01:55] Aria: My colorodaña accent is gonna be funny around Harvard.
[01:55] niftylettuce: *blag.scvngr.com
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[02:14] muk_mb: hey guys
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[02:15] SamNZ: What is the best module to use with Redis?
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[02:17] MarcinM1: yes
[02:20] muk_mb: hey, are any of you in NYC?
[02:20] MarcinM1: nossir
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[02:26] niftylettuce: Nexxy: http://i.imgur.com/258MI.jpg
[02:26] Nexxy: DON'T STOP MAKE IT POP
[02:26] Nexxy: that's pretty badass, actually
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[02:27] Nexxy: niftylettuce++
[02:27] v8bot:  Nexxy has given a beer to niftylettuce. niftylettuce now has 2 beers.
[02:27] antlong: i am
[02:27] antlong: in nyc
[02:27] Nexxy: that's almost as cool as pdx
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[02:28] kmiyashiro: DmitryBaranovsk asked this quiz: Write the following in 6 characters: a === null || a === undefined ? "" : String(a)
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[02:29] Prometheus: SamNZ: https://github.com/mranney/node_redis maybe?
[02:29] Prometheus: antlong: ahoy there
[02:30] antlong: hello Prometheus 
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[02:32] Nexxy: google looks all funky now ;<
[02:32] antlong: Prometheus: whats up, chuck
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[02:33] Prometheus: antlong: not much, just trying to figure out how I can take over the world with node
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[02:33] Nexxy: Prometheus, node-based ad hoc wifi internets
[02:33] Prometheus: Nexxy: afganistan style?
[02:33] Nexxy: yaaa~!1
[02:33] mikey_p: streamie--
[02:33] v8bot:  mikey_p has taken a beer from streamie. streamie now has -1 beers.
[02:33] mikey_p: streamie.js--
[02:34] Nexxy: build it off of old WRT54g's and stuff
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[02:34] mikey_p: never forget
[02:34] Nexxy: lol
[02:34] antlong: Prometheus: ahh. im working on taking over node with python.
[02:34] Nuck: lol @ WRT54g
[02:35] Nuck: antlong: ewwwwww fuck Python.  And I don't mean I fuck snakes.
[02:35] Prometheus: antlong: wait what
[02:35] Nexxy: LOL
[02:35] Prometheus: taking over node with python?
[02:35] Prometheus: or the other way around?
[02:35] antlong: im porting over some node packages, to python
[02:35] Prometheus: o_O?
[02:35] Nuck: antlong: ... Why?
[02:35] Prometheus: okay here's a question, why?
[02:35] Prometheus: :P
[02:35] Nexxy: duh!
[02:35] Nuck: Why in the name of Science would you do that?
[02:36] Prometheus: I think the answer is...
[02:36] Prometheus: antlong doesn't like JavaScript
[02:36] antlong: cause i get paid for it?
[02:36] Prometheus: !
[02:36] Nuck: I mean, seriously, if you want the packages Node provides, use Node.
[02:36] Prometheus: oh you get paid for it..
[02:36] Nexxy: just imagine how amazing you would be to your friends if you were from the 80's and you brought back technology from 2011
[02:36] antlong: :)
[02:36] Nuck: Oh, that's a good enough reason :P
[02:36] Nexxy: I know exactly why they're doing it
[02:36] Prometheus: antlong: why do you get paid for it?
[02:36] Prometheus: why don't I get paid for it? :(
[02:37] Lorentz: Speaking of router
[02:37] antlong: because you havent said 'WE NEED IT NAOW!'
[02:37] Lorentz: should get a new one
[02:37] Prometheus: antlong: what are you porting in particular? :)
[02:37] antlong: if anyone is around the ohio area, next month theres a free conference, http://pyohio.org/Sprints/
[02:37] antlong: mine is JellyPy
[02:37] Prometheus: antlong: oh snap, friend of mine happens to be in OH
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[02:37] Prometheus: might have to tip him
[02:38] Prometheus: haha
[02:38] Prometheus: he's in columbus OH
[02:38] Prometheus: or was it Lisbon..
[02:38] Nexxy: poor guy
[02:38] Prometheus: I know
[02:38] Prometheus: it's for business though =P
[02:38] Nexxy: I'm so biased ;<
[02:38] Prometheus: what business you might ask, that I can't answer
[02:39] Nexxy: male escorts? ;o
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[02:39] Prometheus: no idea =P
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[02:42] JohnnyL: reminds me of Right Vocation... (ie. no sex, drugs, meat trade, etc)
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[02:43] Nexxy: wait what
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[02:58] Prometheus: why is no-one from here making a killing on ThinkVitamin w/ node.js videos?
[02:58] Prometheus: or peepcode..
[03:00] Prometheus: someone should do like a practical node.js screencast series =) 
[03:00] Nuck: Like yayQuery but for Node.js?
[03:00] Prometheus: maybe
[03:01] Prometheus: nodetuts is pretty cool, hat tip to pedro for that
[03:01] Nuck: Get isaacs, ryah, and SubStack together? :P
[03:01] Prometheus: and creationix =P
[03:01] Nuck: Get them really fucking drunk.
[03:01] Nuck: Like, I wanna see these guys vomit.
[03:02] Nuck: And do a live screencast.
[03:02] Nuck: lulz will ensue
[03:02] Prometheus: o_o
[03:02] Nuck: Prometheus: Maybe toss in tjholowaychuk as an option, too.  The guy *did* make our Django.
[03:03] Nuck: :P
[03:03] Prometheus: well right
[03:03] Prometheus: tj is a rockstar too =P
[03:03] Nuck: oh, of course.
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[03:03] Prometheus: too many people to mention in this community it seems
[03:04] Nuck: Just get these guys together on a couch, put a camera in front of them, and prompt them to just talk about NodeJS shit.
[03:04] Prometheus: lol
[03:04] Prometheus: beer driven development
[03:04] niftylettuce: Nuck: that'd be neat
[03:04] cbiscardi: isn't all development beer driven ;-)
[03:04] Nuck: I wanna see ryah do a presentation on nodejs while completely sloshed.
[03:05] niftylettuce: lmao :)
[03:05] cbiscardi: Nuck: +1
[03:05] Prometheus: cbiscardi: open source at least =)
[03:05] Prometheus: I'm sure the enterprisey folk don't have time for beer
[03:05] Prometheus: they are too busy abstracting shit with java
[03:06] Nuck: Prometheus: Hey, I'm being an enterprisey person right now D:
[03:06] Prometheus: too busy abstracting shit?
[03:06] cbiscardi: haha
[03:06] Nuck: Nah, I'm enterprising in node.js :P
[03:06] Prometheus: mm
[03:07] Prometheus: see I just want to get comfortable with node
[03:07] Prometheus: right now I'm at a loss =)
[03:07] Prometheus: so I'm just scrounging around the web for knowledge
[03:07] Nuck: I've been fully fluent at JS for... 4 months now?
[03:07] Prometheus: (and sitting here chatting away because I have no idea what to ask) =P
[03:07] Nexxy: Prometheus, ask not what your development community can do for you
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[03:07] Nexxy: but what you can do for your development community
[03:08] Prometheus: Nexxy: tis I know =)
[03:08] Nuck: Prometheus: Start with Hello World, move to bigger things.
[03:08] Nuck: Try building a website
[03:08] Nexxy: Prometheus, I'll take a coffee ;3
[03:08] Nexxy: no sugar, extra (soy) creamer
[03:08] Prometheus: Nuck: psh, hello world is boring :/
[03:08] Nexxy: thanks feller
[03:08] Prometheus: Nexxy: hay, I'm not an intern =P
[03:08] Nexxy: oh
[03:08] niftylettuce: any of u guys write in python b4?
[03:08] Nexxy: in that case, could you run some errands for me?
[03:08] cbiscardi: Prometheus: just try to build something and you'll come up with questions to ask
[03:08] Nuck: Prometheus: Get me a hooker in here
[03:08] Prometheus: Nuck: I've built enough websites in my day job, I think I'll build some utility =)
[03:09] Prometheus: var escort = require('escort'); ?
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[03:09] Nuck: niftylettuce: You can't tell but I'm glaring angrily at my monitor now.
[03:09] Nuck: Prometheus: Build a social network for hookers.
[03:09] Prometheus: Nuck: I'm pretty sure I'd be in jail before that thing would even launch
[03:09] Nuck: Like diaspora, but with more sex.
[03:09] Prometheus: cbiscardi: in the process of doing so, but I'm having trouble coming up with questions to ask ;)
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[03:09] Prometheus: diaspora..
[03:09] Prometheus: *shrug*
[03:09] niftylettuce: Nuck: ? just need a hand with writing a plugin for gedit (gists for gedit)
[03:10] Nuck: Prometheus: then move to the Netherlands :P
[03:10] cbiscardi: Prometheus: haha well that's a good thing right?
[03:10] Prometheus: niftylettuce: I write some python, sure
[03:10] Prometheus: cbiscardi: actually, it's not :/
[03:10] Prometheus: it's better to have questions to not have them =P
[03:10] Nuck: niftylettuce: Sorry, I don't know Python, and it makes me vomit anyways.
[03:10] niftylettuce: Prometheus: you on a *nix/gnome machine?
[03:10] Prometheus: niftylettuce: Steve's OS
[03:10] cbiscardi: Prometheus: only if it means you aren't making progress without them
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[03:11] Nuck: Prometheus: When problems come up, THEN you ask.
[03:11] Nuck: Until then, just code!
[03:11] Prometheus: :P
[03:11] Nuck: Prometheus: Steve Jobs or Steve Ballmer's OS?
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[03:11] Prometheus: the first one
[03:11] Prometheus: latter is a jerk
[03:11] Nuck: ah we're cool with mac up in here.
[03:11] Nexxy: DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
[03:11] Nuck: Because it's hipster enough.
[03:11] Prometheus: even if they are helping port node to winblows
[03:11] Prometheus: Nuck: yes, I'm hipster like that
[03:12] Nuck: Nexxy: I.  LOVE.  THIS.  COMPANY!
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[03:12] Nexxy: EASY ON YOUR PIT STAINS, BUDY
[03:12] Prometheus: cbiscardi: I think I'm just having trouble figuring out how I want to lay this thing out, and then with some protocols =P
[03:12] Nexxy: +D
[03:12] Prometheus: I don't want to use ready made libraries because that'll teach me nothing
[03:12] Prometheus: I want to do things the hard way ;)
[03:12] Nuck: Nexxy: Funny-lookin' eye your emote's got there?
[03:13] Prometheus: he's from outer space
[03:13] Prometheus: clearly
[03:13] Nexxy: Nuck, thank you for noticing
[03:13] cbiscardi: Prometheus: ah yes, I think you mean the fun way. ;)
[03:13] niftylettuce: Prometheus: here is a description of what I'm looking to build (we already have a base to work from) @ https://github.com/niftylettuce/nifty-web-requests#gist4gedit  -- here is link for latest gedit dmg file @ http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/binaries/mac/gedit/2.30/gedit-2.30.2.dmg
[03:13] Nuck: Nexxy: Was your emote in Vietnam?
[03:13] Prometheus: cbiscardi: precisely
[03:14] Nexxy: Nuck, sarajevo
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[03:14] Nuck: "I LOST MAH LEG IN VIETNAM" "Wow, you served in the Vietnam War?" "No, but I vacationed there a few years back and left my prosthetic at the hotel." 
[03:15] Prometheus: niftylettuce: so you want it to basically interact with gist.github.com, that's all?
[03:15] niftylettuce: Prometheus: yeah ctrl+shift+v and it takes either selected document or selected text and pastes private gist
[03:15] niftylettuce: Prometheus: there is something called External Tools, which let you bind hotkey to a script
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[03:16] Prometheus: hrm
[03:17] niftylettuce: Prometheus: I think i found something
[03:17] Prometheus: niftylettuce: oh?
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[03:18] niftylettuce: Prometheus: well you can easily get the contents (either selected or document) via this simple External Tools script
[03:20] niftylettuce: Prometheus: http://i.imgur.com/U7K6K.png
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[03:20] Prometheus: niftylettuce: so wouldn't you be able to just write a bit of bash there?
[03:20] Prometheus: and get 'er done?
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[03:20] niftylettuce: Prometheus: that will write to there, meaning maybe you could write script that writes to a tmp file w/same extension as current document, then takes that tmp file and POSTS it to github
[03:21] Prometheus: yeah
[03:21] Prometheus: I mean a simple bash script should do it, right?
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[03:21] qhead: has anybody tried to compile/port V8 in iOS?
[03:21] niftylettuce: Prometheus: yeah just gotta figure it out
[03:21] Prometheus: niftylettuce: I've seen a few around
[03:22] Prometheus: niftylettuce: for example, https://github.com/rocketraman/gist.sh
[03:22] qhead: webkit + V8 would make a kickass browser for jailbroken phones
[03:22] Prometheus: ahem, https://github.com/gmarik/gist.sh
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[03:28] niftylettuce: Prometheus: haha wow these worked by default
[03:28] Prometheus: =)
[03:28] niftylettuce: Prometheus: now just gotta figure out how to copy the link it spits out to clipboard
[03:28] Prometheus: pbcopy
[03:28] Prometheus: or such
[03:28] Prometheus: | xargs pbcopy
[03:29] niftylettuce: yea there are tons of conditionals so it defaulted to stdin
[03:29] tim_smart: niftylettuce: npm install gista?
[03:29] Prometheus: ah
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[03:29] Marak: reporting in from SF night owls thing, HP people talking about webos
[03:29] niftylettuce: Marak++
[03:29] v8bot:  niftylettuce has given a beer to Marak. Marak now has 1 beers.
[03:29] Marak: does anyone know the easiest way to "stat" a port, i.e. determine if there is a running service?
[03:29] Marak: but its not cutting it
[03:29] Marak: i've been doing some wonky process.on('uncaughtException', function (err) {   if (err.message === "EADDRINUSE, Address already in use") { 
[03:29] Aria: Heh. That sounds about right. There's no e.errno?
[03:30] Aria: or e.code? (I can't remember the property)
[03:30] tim_smart: Should be e.code
[03:30] Marak: Aria: i cant really do that, i need the exception caught on the instance of the hook, not the global state of the module
[03:30] tim_smart: But could be errno
[03:30] Marak: err, process
[03:30] Marak: i need to actually check if the port is available before i try to bind to it...
[03:30] Aria: Why? Why not bind to it and see if that fails?
[03:31] tim_smart: Marak: listen(port, callback)
[03:31] niftylettuce: i am assuming you're not talking about using netstat
[03:31] tim_smart: I'm pretty sure listen has a callback
[03:31] Marak: tim_smart: will that throw a proper err if the port isnt available?
[03:31] Marak: tim_smart: it does...im like 3 levels deep with dnode, but it should work...
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[03:32] tim_smart: Marak: Looks good to me http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.8/api/net.html#server.listen
[03:32] tim_smart: The example does exactly what you want
[03:32] Marak: tim_smart: hrmm i must be losing it
[03:32] Marak: will check it out, thanks
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[03:35] kcbanner: Writing some unit tests involving dates, using assert.equal, its throwing this: uncaught: AssertionError: "2011-04-26T03:10:12.890Z" == "2011-04-26T03:10:12.890Z". So I'm using toJSON() on both dates now, and it works. But is there a better way?
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[03:35] kcbanner: They are two seperate instances that represent the same date.
[03:35] Marak: SubStack: are you not passing callbacks here? https://github.com/substack/dnode/blob/master/index.js#L145
[03:36] Marak: https://github.com/substack/dnode/blob/master/index.js#L206 looks like it should throw...
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[03:37] niftylettuce: tim_smart: what would be proper cmd for copying stdin to clipboard as a private url, "gista -pdn | xclip -selection clipboard"?
[03:37] Marak: i dont think its catching...
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[03:37] tim_smart: niftylettuce: cat file.txt | gista -pn file.txt | xclip ...
[03:39] tim_smart: niftylettuce: I have alias that annoying xclip command as "cbc" (clip-board-copy)
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[03:44] niftylettuce: tim_smart: https://gist.github.com/59d11ce058e432691f35
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[03:45] muk_mb: good plan
[03:45] niftylettuce: tim_smart: want me to report?
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[03:45] tim_smart: niftylettuce: That is npm v0.3
[03:45] tim_smart: npm is at v1.x now
[03:45] niftylettuce: tim_smart: wth i thought i just updated it...
[03:46] tim_smart: hehe >.<
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[03:47] tim_smart: niftylettuce: https://github.com/Tim-Smart/gista
[03:48] tim_smart: It should work with npm v0.3 I guess...
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[03:52] niftylettuce: two err's i got while doing force install https://gist.github.com/a0359278fe891f3f27a5 and https://gist.github.com/1af4ff2ab6e0b408a1e3
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[03:55] niftylettuce: tim_smart: yeah i got this err now... https://gist.github.com/100db0a34cdbb055bfbd
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[03:56] tim_smart: niftylettuce: Hrm seems it can't find node-far for fake. Not sure what felixge has done there -- but you can try npm install -g node-far first
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[03:57] tim_smart: Rather, npm install -g far
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[03:59] niftylettuce: tim_smart: far installed, but here is err: https://gist.github.com/a909a3216244f0e2cf5a
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[04:00] tim_smart: niftylettuce: OK. The test framework must have made changes.
[04:00] tim_smart: niftylettuce: You must be installing with tests enabled right?
[04:01] tim_smart: Anyway, patch coming
[04:01] niftylettuce: tim_smart: yea just standard "npm install -g gista"
[04:03] tim_smart: niftylettuce: Fixed.
[04:03] niftylettuce: tim_smart++
[04:03] v8bot:  niftylettuce has given a beer to tim_smart. tim_smart now has 2 beers.
[04:04] tim_smart: niftylettuce: >.< Need aspirins after that :p
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[04:04] niftylettuce: tim_smart: is it supposed to output "No database.yml file found in /Users/jdempsey/testbed/dm_test/config,"
[04:05] tim_smart: nope :/
[04:05] niftylettuce: tim_smart: says loaded DEV environment
[04:05] tim_smart: Doesn't use a database.yml at all
[04:05] niftylettuce: tim_smart: starting merb server listening at port 4000?
[04:05] niftylettuce: tim_smart: whaaaaa
[04:05] tim_smart: lolwut
[04:06] niftylettuce: tim_smart: https://gist.github.com/a1cffaa7ecad1b109fce
[04:06] tim_smart: niftylettuce: cat `which gista`?
[04:07] niftylettuce: tim_smart: /home/nbaugh/local/node/bin/gista
[04:08] niftylettuce: tim_smart: why is it starting a merb server for
[04:08] niftylettuce: merb app?
[04:08] tim_smart: niftylettuce: https://gist.github.com/1c7e4d8ad91fb395e7c1
[04:08] tim_smart: This is what it should do
[04:09] tim_smart: Unless somehow shelling out to `git config` is screwing something.
[04:09] niftylettuce: back to stdin :S
[04:10] tim_smart: niftylettuce: lol https://gist.github.com/12345
[04:11] niftylettuce: tim_smart: ??
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[04:11] tim_smart: niftylettuce: gista -f xxx fetches the gist to stdout
[04:12] tim_smart: So that was the content of gist 12345
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[04:13] tim_smart: niftylettuce: Check out `gista --help`
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[04:20] Marak: does anyone have any questions for creationix? im here and hes asking
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[04:20] Marak: talking about some webos stuff
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[04:29] niftylettuce: tim_smart: rofl I thought it was an error
[04:29] niftylettuce: tim_smart: was just a gist :'(...
[04:30] niftylettuce: tim_smart: i didnt know it would fetch your gist by default
[04:30] tim_smart: niftylettuce: It outputs the url by default, but you had the -f flag set
[04:31] niftylettuce: tim_smart: oh god, I thought you were jdempsey too
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[04:31] niftylettuce: tim_smart: LOL
[04:31] niftylettuce: tim_smart: u have two personalities? lolz
[04:31] niftylettuce: tim_smart: total brain pop tart
[04:31] sh1mmer: anyone from ajax.org around?
[04:32] tim_smart: niftylettuce: Err wut?
[04:33] Jakwac: Is the vm created with the vm module non-blocking? It doesnt say either way in the docs.
[04:34] sh1mmer: Jakwac: it's a new context in the same process I believe
[04:34] sh1mmer: 
ACTION takes a quick shufti at the code

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[04:43] yenz: Jakwac: still looking into the thing with the route blocking?
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[04:43] Jakwac: Nope, got that figured out. It was a browser problem.
[04:44] yenz: yeah, i facepalm'd when i ran a shell script to look into it more
[04:44] yenz: derp derp
[04:44] yenz: sh1mmer: how's the book coming along?
[04:44] sh1mmer: yenz: slowly :)
[04:44] sh1mmer: I have a big update coming soon
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[04:45] sh1mmer: another 3 chapters or so
[04:45] yenz: heh... hey, are you in KL right now???
[04:45] yenz: (perusing your twitter)
[04:45] sh1mmer: yes
[04:45] sh1mmer: speaking in about an hour
[04:45] yenz: sonofa
[04:45] yenz: where???
[04:45] yenz: <-- in bangsar
[04:45] yenz: (KL suburb)
[04:46] sh1mmer: Jakwac: I'm not exactly the c++ guy but it looks like in runs inline to me
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[04:46] sh1mmer: yenz: downtown. Performance Unleashed is at the Shearton Imperial
[04:47] sh1mmer: yenz: we are launching a cloud service here in a couple of weeks with a local company (XYBase)
[04:47] Jakwac: Ya, thats what I'm seeing too.
[04:47] sh1mmer: Jakwac: v8 contexts are how it seperates out things like iframes
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[04:49] yenz: sh1mmer: huh, cool. wish i'd have known about it... but RM1k is steep for a solopreneur anyway
[04:49] sh1mmer: has anyone tried node-ssh, node-control or NodeSSH?
[04:50] jesusabdullah: Meant to give node-control a shot, never did
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[04:51] AvianFlu: sh1mmer: substack's node-ssh isn't finished, I don't think
[04:51] AvianFlu: as I recall, libssh doesn't want to play nice with libeio
[04:52] sh1mmer: yenz: I'll be around KL until 14th if you want to say hi
[04:52] sh1mmer: well, that's not 100% true. At some point I'll pick a beach and be there for a while
[04:52] sh1mmer: but I'll be back in KL 11-14
[04:52] yenz: sh1mmer: awesome! i'll take you up on that :)
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[04:52] yenz: i'll follow up via email
[04:54] sh1mmer: AvianFlu: hm. node-ssh is substack? I thought it was ajax.org
[04:54] sh1mmer: there could be 2 called node-ssh that wouldn't be a first
[04:54] Lorentz: Happens all the time.
[04:54] sh1mmer: yeah
[04:55] Lorentz: Lots of re-implements around here.
[04:55] sh1mmer: whoever hits npm first wins
[04:55] sh1mmer: first thing I do now
[04:55] sh1mmer: mark my scent
[04:55] jesusabdullah: I don't know if SubStack's ssh library is complete
[04:55] jesusabdullah: He was having issues, I remember
[04:55] sh1mmer: he says it isn't
[04:55] jesusabdullah: ah
[04:55] sh1mmer: status "This module has all kinds of problems since the node.js thread pool does not play nicely with libssh."
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[04:55] jesusabdullah: yeah, he tried quite a few different approaches
[04:56] jesusabdullah: I think pkrumins hacked something together using separate processes
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[04:56] sh1mmer: he's a smart guy so I assume whatever he's doing it not a bad approach
[04:56] sh1mmer: also gabor's https://github.com/ajaxorg/node-ssh
[04:56] niftylettuce: tim_smart: can you bundle in the alias for cpc in gista? ("xclip -selection clipboard")
[04:57] niftylettuce: tim_smart: erm, well I guess that would limit to *nix, nvm
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[04:59] jesusabdullah: Yeah, however it works, their tunneling feature's almost ready for prime time from what I've gathered
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[05:00] sh1mmer: those guys scare me
[05:00] sh1mmer: the kids of today
[05:00] tim_smart: niftylettuce: echo -e "\nalias cbc=\"xclip -selection clipboard\"" >> ~/.bashrc
[05:00] sh1mmer: I remember being proud I could make a text based adventure game
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[05:01] niftylettuce: tim_smart: cpc*
[05:01] niftylettuce: tim_smart: or do you use cbc?
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[05:01] tim_smart: niftylettuce: Mine is cbc ([c]lip[b]oard[c]opy)
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[05:17] akshatj: how do I package npm modules?
[05:17] akshatj: debian
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[05:23] jesusabdullah: akshatj: I hate to be a dick, but rtfm yo
[05:25] akshatj: jesus won't help me, now who would? :P
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[05:26] jesusabdullah: akshatj: https://github.com/isaacs/npm/blob/master/doc/developers.md#readme
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[05:26] jesusabdullah: akshatj: You'll want to read this. It should tell you pretty much how to publish npm modules
[05:27] akshatj: jesusabdullah: not that, I want to put npm modules in a debian package
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[05:29] sorensen: rtfm?
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[05:31] akshatj: right, but i don't think any fm exists for it
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[05:34] tbranyen: mikeal: did you give a talk at jsconf about starting meetups?
[05:35] tbranyen: just checked out your blog and you have some stuff on it there that looks familiar
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[05:35] mikeal: nope, didn't give a talk
[05:36] mikeal: i was working jsconf tho
[05:36] mikeal: so i might have just been talking about it with people while sitting behind registration :)
[05:36] tbranyen: yeah i started the boston node.js meetup, just haven't figured out how to really get it started
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[05:36] tbranyen: your analysis of what a typical meetup is, is spot on, but i think its what most people expect when they go to them
[05:36] tbranyen: pizza beer and talks
[05:37] tbranyen: whoops two is there
[05:37] mikeal: the more people expect something the more they notice when you do something better :)
[05:38] tbranyen: cristal?
[05:39] mikeal: tbranyen: you coming to NodeConf SummerCamp?
[05:39] tbranyen: heh don't know what that is
[05:39] mikeal: http://www.nodeconf.com/summercamp.html
[05:40] tbranyen: oh snap i should get bocoup to send me to that
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[05:40] mikeal: all of bocoup should come
[05:40] mikeal: hell, you guys should sponsor :)
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[05:40] mikeal: i'll bug boaz about it :)
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[05:41] tbranyen: 2yeah def
[05:42] tbranyen: urgh how long does it take a .it domain name to propagate >_>
[05:43] mikeal: not entirely sure, but my .io domain takes like a full day
[05:43] mikeal: it's like 1999 again :)
[05:43] tbranyen: eff
[05:44] tbranyen: mikeal: http://www.mikealrogers.com/about.html fyi
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[05:59] jesusabdullah: akshatj: Why would you want to put node packages in a debian package? Also, that sounds like a question for the debian people more than the npm people
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[06:00] akshatj: jesusabdullah: I want to put termkit in a PPA
[06:01] jesusabdullah: What's a PPA?
[06:01] jesusabdullah: I'm not trolling, btw. Sorry for being flippant earlier
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[06:03] jesusabdullah: I think if I wanted to bundle a node.js app for the purposes of a .deb, I would bundle all the dependencies along with it instead of involving npm
[06:03] akshatj: jesusabdullah: Personal Package Archive https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[06:03] jesusabdullah: ah
[06:03] Nuck: jesusabdullah: Can't NPM bundle?
[06:03] jesusabdullah: Can it? I lost track of the feature list right around 1.0 time truth be told
[06:05] jesusabdullah: if npm has tools for bundling everything you want into a single directory, then that'd probably be the way to go
[06:05] jesusabdullah: akshatj: so, termkit works in linux now?
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[06:06] Nuck: wait, NPM already shoves it in a folder with the thing
[06:06] Nuck: It's under ./node_modules
[06:06] Nuck: Next to the application
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[06:07] akshatj: jesusabdullah: a fork does
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[06:08] akshatj: https://github.com/Floby/TermKit
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[06:15] jesusabdullah: akshatj: Do you know why it hasn't been pulled back to the original? ooc?
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[06:26] mjr_: isaacs: trouble install npm just now:  https://gist.github.com/1053266
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[06:27] mjr_: seen that one before?
[06:27] isaacs: mjr_: yes!  just the other day.  wtf?
[06:27] isaacs: that should not be possible.
[06:27] mjr_: can I help?
[06:27] isaacs: mjr_: maybe.
[06:27] isaacs: go into the repl, and do this:   require("fs").statSync("/usr").isDirectory()
[06:27] niftylettuce: hey folks tim_smart tried helping me but to no luck (he had to go) -- can anyone take a peak at this shell script for gist'ing and lmk why it keeps outputting "undefined"? https://gist.github.com/3d89da96036b2c9c8b9a
[06:27] isaacs: what does that return?
[06:27] mjr_: I also got that error about /var before, so I removed npm and started over
[06:28] mjr_: > require("fs").statSync("/usr").isDirectory()
[06:28] mjr_: true
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[06:29] mjr_: isaacs: is this something different in a recent node version?
[06:29] isaacs: mjr_: if so, it's a new error.  but no, that's expected..
[06:29] mjr_: I guess I could roll node back a few commits and see if that changes anything.
[06:30] isaacs: mjr_: so, this is the place where the error is happening:
[06:30] isaacs:         if (s.isDirectory()) {
[06:30] isaacs:           if (uid === null && typeof s.uid === "number") foundUID = s.uid
[06:30] isaacs:           if (gid === null && typeof s.gid === "number") foundGID = s.gid
[06:30] isaacs:           S(dirs.shift())
[06:30] isaacs:         } else cb(new Error("Failed to mkdir "+dir+": File exists"))
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[06:30] isaacs: where "s" is the stat of whatever "dir" is
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[06:31] isaacs: mjr_: what version of node are you using?
[06:32] mjr_: isaacs: { node: '0.4.9-pre', v8: '3.1.8.16', ares: '1.7.4', ev: '4.4', openssl: '0.9.8l' }
[06:32] mjr_: just updated node on the v0.4 branch today
[06:32] isaacs: what commit?
[06:32] mjr_: d6ec8f668e308763ba1db4b603113ba9085f4391
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[06:33] isaacs: hm.  me too
[06:33] isaacs: what command from npm?
[06:33] isaacs: mjr_: er, what command to npm
[06:34] mjr_: make install, so I guess node cli.js install -g -f
[06:34] mjr_: it's in the gist
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[06:34] isaacs: oc
[06:34] isaacs: oic
[06:34] isaacs: this is so weird
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[06:36] xeodox: j mongodb/
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[06:37] mjr_: isaacs: so I added a console.dir(s) right before the isDirectory(), and it says this:
[06:37] mjr_: https://gist.github.com/1053266
[06:37] mjr_: Which is strange, because the dates are totally wrong
[06:37] isaacs: yahh...
[06:37] mjr_: Maybe other stuff too, but I'm not sure about the correct values when statting directories
[06:37] isaacs: that looks *really* weird
[06:38] isaacs: mode 40??
[06:38] isaacs: like, 050?  wtf?
[06:38] mjr_: woah
[06:38] mjr_: mjr:~/work/npm (master)$ ls -aldi /usr
[06:38] mjr_: 40 drwxr-xr-x@ 14 root  wheel  476 Mar 11 21:02 /usr
[06:38] mjr_: 40 is the inode
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[06:39] isaacs: yeah...
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[06:39] isaacs: somethings getting messed up.
[06:39] mjr_: so like, the numbers got shifted around somehow?
[06:39] mjr_: in like, fs.stat?
[06:39] isaacs: seems that way
[06:39] mjr_: fucking fuck
[06:40] mjr_: It doesn't do this on your computer?
[06:40] isaacs: nope
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[06:40] isaacs: but there's one other person who it does, he just reported it
[06:40] mjr_: You using one of those hopelessly non-unix Mac computers?
[06:40] isaacs: i'm using a mac
[06:40] isaacs: so's he
[06:40] mjr_: Did you apply that big OSX update today, 10.6.8?
[06:40] isaacs: so are you
[06:40] isaacs: uhh... i don't think so
[06:40] isaacs: maybe?
[06:41] mjr_: required a reboot
[06:41] carmony: Question: Is there a way to get the name of an object instance as a string?
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[06:41] isaacs: no, not on this computer
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[06:41] isaacs: carmony: nope
[06:41] isaacs: carmony: you can get the name of the constructor?
[06:41] isaacs: .. function Foo () {} ; var foo = new Foo; foo.constructor.name
[06:42] carmony: oh, perfect
[06:42] isaacs: mjr_: got software update going
[06:42] isaacs: v8: function Foo () {} ; var foo = new Foo; foo.constructor.name
[06:42] v8bot: isaacs: "Foo"
[06:43] SamNZ: I'm having trouble with socket.io. Can anyone shed some light on why this might be happening: https://gist.github.com/1053278
[06:44] `3rdEden: the store is deleted when you disconnect so you cant access it SamNZ
[06:45] `3rdEden: #socket.io has it's own channel btw :)
[06:45] SamNZ: Well that's inconvenient
[06:45] SamNZ: Orly
[06:45] `3rdEden: Yarly
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[06:46] SamNZ: The store should be deleted after the disconnect event is emitted
[06:46] `3rdEden: But yeah, but fixing that is kinda hard, because disconnect is `sync` and get is async
[06:47] `3rdEden: only with the memory store, it's sync
[06:47] niftylettuce: getting a weird undefined output error to clipboard https://gist.github.com/3d89da96036b2c9c8b9a
[06:47] mjr_: isaacs: so I did a make clean && make in my node src dir, and guess what?  now npm works fine
[06:47] isaacs: nu uh!!
[06:47] isaacs: that's horrible
[06:47] mjr_: yeah
[06:47] mjr_: for real
[06:47] isaacs: ugh
[06:48] isaacs: shitstains
[06:48] mjr_: So somehow we built a completely mangled node
[06:48] isaacs: did you build some other version of it previously?
[06:48] mjr_: But one that was mangled in tiny, subtle ways
[06:48] SamNZ: The problem is I'd like to log the user out when they disconnect, but now I have no way of knowing what their user_id is
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[06:48] isaacs: unrealistic
[06:48] mjr_: Sure, I build a new version every few days 
[06:48] isaacs: mjr_: and why just THAT stat?  i stat like a bajillion things
[06:48] isaacs: npm's a stat monster
[06:48] mjr_: Perhaps all stats were borked
[06:49] isaacs: it stats your face, just for being there
[06:49] mjr_: It died right away
[06:49] isaacs: no, that's defintely not the first stat it does.  but maybe it's the first dir it tried to create.
[06:49] mjr_: That was the very first line of output from npm, but perhaps it's the first stat that checked the mangled bit
[06:49] mjr_: anyway, totally shitty bug
[06:50] isaacs: gah.
[06:50] isaacs: well, i'm building node for teh first time in a long time on a machine that got the 10.6.8 update today
[06:50] mjr_: I get a number of bug reports from people using node_redis and hiredis where shit gets mangled when they rebuild
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[06:50] isaacs: how is that possible, though?
[06:50] mjr_: And the solution is to rebuild hiredis, and then everythign works again
[06:50] isaacs: isn't gcc like, deterministic?
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[06:50] isaacs: idon't get it
[06:50] mjr_: It's something about the build process I think.
[06:51] mjr_: Depending on which files you change, and whatever waf decides to build and link
[06:51] mjr_: If you apply the commits one at a time, maybe it gets different results?
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[06:56] mjr_: isaacs: it'll be interesting to see if the other reporter of this issue can fix his/her problem by make clean/make
[06:58] isaacs: fucking waf.
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[07:00] niftylettuce: can someone please try out a gista demo and let me know if I'm not the only one that is having trouble? https://github.com/Tim-Smart/gista
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[07:05] onr: isaacs: is there a nodejs module to build native gui apps like gtk, qt, etc.?
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[07:24] SamNZ: `3rdEden: I managed to hack together a solution. The disconnect event gets sent with a reason, so I sent the client store along side that before it gets deleted
[07:28] `3rdEden: SamNZ sure that will only work if you are using the in memory storage
[07:28] `3rdEden: but when you are inneed of scaling your app, you will have issues :p
[07:29] `3rdEden: Because those get/set's will be async
[07:29] Arkkis: hmm, in memory storage, I need to take a look at that, sounds promising
[07:30] SamNZ: `3rdEden: I found another way of doing it
[07:30] SamNZ: This time I moved the code which clears the client store to a callback function which is called after the disconnect event has been emitted
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[07:52] ivanzhao: hello, anybody has good suggestion for setting up a subdomain? e.g. aaa.domain.com,  or bbb.domain.com
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[08:09] framlin: ivanzao: https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy may help
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[09:36] AndyDawson: anyone using now.js 0.7 - upgrading an app I can't get even the demos to run
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[10:01] bogomips2_: hi there is a simply method or modules to strip html tag ?
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[10:01] bogomips2_: and leave the text
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[10:37] SamNZ: If I have a setTimeout loop running in the same node process as a server will the server still be able to function correctly?
[10:38] ablomen: SamNZ, as long as the function that is called is not blocking, sure
[10:40] SamNZ: Ok cool
[10:40] SamNZ: I should be able to make my game then :D
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[10:43] dall: hello
[10:43] dall: do i have to use another module for EXPRESS to provide image/css file ?
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[10:46] coreb: does anyone know how to make a generated package.json with prompts for necessary details?
[10:46] adrianmg: can someone share a little hosting with node.js to upload a demo of this? https://github.com/adrianmg/chat-chat-chat
[10:47] HookIO-IRC: coreb: you should check out http://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu
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[10:49] dall: no?
[10:50] akshatj: adrianmg: nice to see UX people take interest in coding
[10:50] akshatj: :)
[10:50] adrianmg: hehe thanks
[10:50] adrianmg: as a front-end developer
[10:50] sth: it's nice, but it clouds judgement
[10:51] adrianmg: a little bit more javascript will be ok
[10:51] sth: as soon as you know what's possible, it stops you from doing certain things
[10:51] adrianmg: I am actually too newbie, but i try to make things lol
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[10:52] adrianmg: MMm
[10:52] adrianmg: i will deploy the working demo on heroku
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[10:52] adrianmg: you can test the real demo here
[10:52] adrianmg: http://213.60.69.67:3000/
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[10:59] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07v0.4 * r61553cc 10/ (24 files in 6 dirs): Upgrade V8 to 3.1.8.25 - http://bit.ly/kEz0lq
[10:59] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07v0.4 * r1e7769d 10/ (24 files in 6 dirs): Merge branch 'v8-3.1' into v0.4 - http://bit.ly/iRLKoN
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[11:33] mrryanjohnston: good mornin'
[11:34] ryah: http://nodejs.org/dist/node-v0.4.9.tar.gz please test
[11:34] Lorentz: woo
[11:34] mrryanjohnston: ryah: orly
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[11:40] mrryanjohnston: ryah: http://pastebin.com/pPXD3Jp7
[11:41] ryah: mrryanjohnston: python --version ?
[11:42] mrryanjohnston: 3.2
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[11:44] ryah: mrryanjohnston: we dont support python 3
[11:44] ryah: :/
[11:44] ryah: sorry
[11:44] mrryanjohnston: ah.
[11:44] mrryanjohnston: *shrugs
[11:44] ryah: we need to fix that though in the future
[11:44] mrryanjohnston: I'll just install python 2 for now
[11:44] mrryanjohnston: ryah: good
[11:44] mrryanjohnston: :)
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[11:45] mape: ryah: Any idea when v0.4.9 will be a tag on github?
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[11:49] mrryanjohnston: ryah: http://pastebin.com/0WvK6Dtg
[11:49] mrryanjohnston: If everyone else can build I'll try to figure it out quietly :p
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[11:52] cosmincx: should expressjs and cluster extension work together? any examples that could help me?
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[11:52] mape: cosmincx: it should work, doesn't the example show it using express?
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[11:53] cosmincx: mape: oh, yeah.. should have looked at examples first..
[11:53] cosmincx: thank you very much
[11:53] mape: :)
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[12:00] Prometheus: well, 0.4.9 built fine againt python 2.7 via nvm on my machine
[12:00] mrryanjohnston: Prometheus: hmph
[12:01] Lorentz: Compiled fine on 2.6.6 for me
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[12:27] cosmincx: mape: I have(most probably a stupid question). I have some variables, outside of the app scope. If they are modified by 1 worker, will this be reflected to all workers?
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[12:35] Siebuhr: I've just tried git-pull'ing to the newest version of node.js - but there doesn't seem to be any v0.4.9-tag. Am I missing something obvious?
[12:36] RickardL: correct
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[12:37] RickardL: I don't see a tag for 0.4.9 either
[12:37] yeye: so, what do I need to install to have header/sys_eventfd.h running on windows cygwin?
[12:37] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07v0.4 * rde44eaf 10/ (ChangeLog doc/index.html src/node_version.h wscript): Bump to v0.4.9 - http://bit.ly/jRSOra
[12:38] yeye: so, what do I need to install to have header/sys_eventfd.h running on windows cygwin??
[12:39] RickardL: http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs/browse_thread/thread/ce9cdf6e1a92e466
[12:39] Siebuhr: Fantastic - there's a v0.4.9-tag now.
[12:39] yeye: googled for over 2 hours, found nothing. That link didn't help. Any other ifo?
[12:40] RickardL: It does not exist on the Windows platform
[12:41] yeye: it used to ;/
[12:41] yeye: oh well. thanks
[12:42] RickardL: Anyone knows of a gist or repository with javascript design patterns written in coffeescript
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[12:43] RickardL: I'm converting some from the book by the yahoo guy, but it's a bit tiresome :o
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[12:50] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r61553cc 10/ (24 files in 6 dirs): Upgrade V8 to 3.1.8.25 - http://bit.ly/kEz0lq
[12:50] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r1e7769d 10/ (24 files in 6 dirs): Merge branch 'v8-3.1' into v0.4 - http://bit.ly/iRLKoN
[12:50] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * rde44eaf 10/ (ChangeLog doc/index.html src/node_version.h wscript): Bump to v0.4.9 - http://bit.ly/jRSOra
[12:50] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * re286480 10/ src/node_version.h : Now working on v0.4.10 - http://bit.ly/jpTSwy
[12:50] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r23b8931 10/ (34 files in 13 dirs): 
[12:50] CIA-110: node: Merge branch 'v0.4'
[12:50] CIA-110: node: Conflicts:
[12:50] CIA-110: node:  src/node.js
[12:50] CIA-110: node:  src/node_version.h - http://bit.ly/leGxxP
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[12:51] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07v0.4 * re286480 10/ src/node_version.h : Now working on v0.4.10 - http://bit.ly/jpTSwy
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[13:04] Plouj: what's a simple lib for reading key-value config files?
[13:05] sfoster: JSON.parse() ? 
[13:05] jscheel: Plouj: just write your config file as json
[13:05] jscheel: beat me to the punch sfoster :)
[13:05] Plouj: how is that different from eval()?
[13:06] Plouj: which isn't very secure
[13:06] jscheel: Plouj: json can't contain functioning code, just data structure
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[13:12] jbergstroem: fyi: http://buildbot.nodejs.org:8010/builders/Gentoo%2032bit/builds/601/steps/upload/logs/err.html
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[13:13] ryah: jbergstroem: groan
[13:13] ryah: i hate build bots
[13:14] ryah: they require so much maintanence
[13:14] jbergstroem: ryah: isn't that the server? :)
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[13:15] jbergstroem: but i guess you're referring to the whole ordeal
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[13:15] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r263e33a 10/ (src/node.cc wscript src/node_timer.cc src/node_timer.h): 
[13:15] CIA-110: node: Revert "Get rid of the old timer binding"
[13:15] CIA-110: node: This reverts commit cc82724fdcd2c914be60e3073f87f053829f6baa.
[13:15] CIA-110: node: Conflicts:
[13:15] CIA-110: node:  src/node.cc
[13:15] CIA-110: node:  wscript - http://bit.ly/mxoElW
[13:15] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * rd005cc5 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Enable new timer binding only on --use-uv - http://bit.ly/khT0uD
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[13:26] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r20996db 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[13:26] CIA-110: node: Revert "Add support for file descriptor type detection."
[13:26] CIA-110: node: This reverts commit 911cbd0cef02c93f821c0c80a3d5dbad2b692c42.
[13:26] CIA-110: node: This patch is broken on Linux and I don't want to think about the
[13:26] CIA-110: node: functionality during the Windows port. We can reconsider it after v0.6. - http://bit.ly/iVLGDO
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[13:27] tuhoojabotti: Plouj: JSON is nice, I made a JSON parser with a basic ;D https://gist.github.com/1045566
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[13:29] Plouj: yeah, but then I have to figure out how to deal with defaults
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[13:29] Plouj: and lots of other intricate details of dealing with config files as well as commandline options
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[13:34] Benjie: Is there a simple way to do util.pump() but to NOT close the connection on completion? For example to implement a protocol akin to HTTP Keep-alive?
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[13:36] ryah: Benjie: a.pipe(b, { end: false })
[13:36] Benjie: ryah, that looks exactly like what I need! Thanks very much! :D
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[13:39] ryah: is there a good website that has screenshots of various web designs?
[13:39] ryah: like, for inspiration? 
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[13:40] Benjie: ryah, yes
[13:40] Benjie: ryah, let me try and remember it
[13:41] Benjie: http://www.designfridge.co.uk/web-design/inspiration
[13:41] Benjie: ryah, ^
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[13:42] taf2:  smashing mag ?
[13:42] bradleymeck_: csszengarden?
[13:42] Benjie: If my app dies from ECONNRESET, does that mean I'm trying to write to the socket AFTER it's been closed? (e.g. through a delayed callback with socket stored in closure)
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[13:44] baudehlo: I like themeforest.net (but it's all non-free stuff - but you can use it for inspiration)
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[13:50] Benjie: How can I deal smoothly with ECONNRESET?
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[13:51] baudehlo: hook on('error')
[13:51] Benjie: baudehlo, thanks. *facepalm*
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[13:53] Benjie: baudehlo, turns out I already had that. :/
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[13:55] Benjie: ryah, http://dribbble.com/ ?
[13:55] jbergstroem: ryah: unmatchedstyle ?
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[13:58] baudehlo: Benjie: 
[13:58] baudehlo: but on your server *and* client object?
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[14:05] Benjie: baudehlo, nodejs is listening (TLS), and accepts new connections. The listen socket has .on('error') plus once I accept a connection I set a .on('error') on the new socket. Is there somewhere else I am missing? I note TLS creates a duplex stream - do I need to somehow do .on('error') to both?
[14:05] baudehlo: Sounds like that should be enough.
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[14:05] baudehlo: do you get a stack trace?
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[14:07] Benjie: baudehlo, http://pastebin.com/92ubeN9R
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[14:11] Benjie: baudehlo, I can only reproduce it over TLS sockets. 
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[14:12] baudehlo: maybe you're right, it's the underlying socket that lacks the on('error')
[14:12] Benjie: I know I have to .close() the socket twice, which I thought was weird
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[14:13] Benjie: s/close/end/
[14:14] baudehlo: it feels to me that all the tls stuff is a bit beta still.
[14:15] baudehlo: can you do client.cleartext.socket.on('error', ... ) ?
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[14:16] jetienne: compiling 0.4.9 deb for ubuntu 
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[14:18] jbergstroem: ryah: suspecting that arlorlas benchmarking image (arlolra.no.de) is disk full:ed
[14:18] akshatj: jetienne: cool, do you know how to package npm modules?
[14:19] jetienne: akshatj: nope, why do you ask
[14:19] akshatj: jetienne: want to put termkit in a ppa
[14:19] Benjie: baudehlo, socket.cleartext doesn't exist. 
[14:19] baudehlo: what does?
[14:20] jetienne: akshatj: maybe i should look
[14:20] jetienne: akshatj: the issue is that npm format is messy
[14:20] baudehlo: can you util.inspect() the socket? There should be a way to get at the underlying socket :)
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[14:22] Benjie: baudehlo, socket.pair.encrypted I think is nearly what I want
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[14:23] Benjie: That was just using console.log. I'll use util.inspect
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[14:24] baudehlo: same diff.
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[14:25] hornairs: is there an easy way to tell node to break on the first line of execution when using a remote debugger (node --debug, not node debug)
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[14:27] akshatj: jetienne: found this http://sbhr.dk/2011/03/31/debianizing-node-programs/
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[14:28] lukegalea: Hi all,
[14:29] hornairs: node-inspector is the bomb.com but i have to wrap any simple scripts in a server so that it continues to run while i pull up the inspector and set breakpoints
[14:29] lukegalea: what are people using in express to do cache busting for assets (ie: rails style ?somenumber after assets based on md5)?
[14:29] lukegalea: I imagine a fancy asset url helper would be nice. I will write one if no one else has done it yet.
[14:30] baudehlo: hornairs: I assume a "debugger;" statement doesnt work?
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[14:31] hornairs: baudehlo no doesn't seem to, i think you need a debugger already attached for them to actually break
[14:32] adrianmg: is there a way to detect when a user close the connection on faye.js?
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[14:33] luisloaiza: hi ther
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[14:33] luisloaiza: I'm trying to use JSONP in an AJAX call
[14:33] Benjie: baudehlo, I've managed to socket.encrypted.on('error',function(e){...}) which is being called, but the server still dies on ECONNRESET; is there something I need to do in my error handler?
[14:33] luisloaiza: but i get the same error o cross domain origin
[14:34] luisloaiza: do i need to use CORS
[14:34] luisloaiza: ?¿
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[14:34] luisloaiza: to support this?
[14:34] baudehlo: Benjie: you need to close the socket... But other than that I don't think so. Is it dying because it has nothing more to do?
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[14:37] Benjie: baudehlo, it shouldn't be, theres still 2 listening sockets
[14:37] Benjie: baudehlo, close with socket.end()?
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[14:37] Benjie: baudehlo, or perhaps .destroy()?
[14:37] baudehlo: yeah the latter.
[14:37] jetienne: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jerome-etienne/neoip && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nodejs <- install node 0.4.9 on ubuntu 11.04
[14:38] baudehlo: since you don't care about sending anything more.
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[14:39] Benjie: with .destroy on both sockets from the error handlers for both sockets, still get:
[14:39] Benjie: Error: ECONNRESET, Connection reset by peer
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[14:44] alessio_alex: when I say:             max = 'width'; var obj = { max: 240}; console.log(obj);
[14:44] alessio_alex: I get { max: 240 }
[14:44] alessio_alex: I need to get { 'width': 240 }
[14:44] alessio_alex: What am I doing wrong? :)
[14:45] MooGoo: object literals dont work like that
[14:45] alessio_alex: the fact is max can be width or height
[14:45] sh4wn: obj[max] =240;
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[14:45] MooGoo: the keys are IdentifierName/inline string/number
[14:45] MooGoo: cant use expressions
[14:46] alessio_alex: oh
[14:46] alessio_alex: thank you
[14:46] alessio_alex: obj[max] did the trick
[14:46] sh4wn: :)
[14:47] tuhoojabotti: https://gist.github.com/1045566 :)
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[14:48] skapism: When I benchmark the basic server example (similar to the one on the homepage) with ab -t 30 -c 10, I get around 3000 requests per second. What is limiting node from serving more? the cpu?
[14:49] adrianmg: arg
[14:49] adrianmg: cannt figure out
[14:49] adrianmg: how can i detect a client close on faye.js
[14:49] adrianmg: crappy documentation
[14:49] skapism: For comparison, with lighttpd, serving a static file, I get around 10000 requests
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[14:50] pigmej: skapism: light is using processes
[14:50] pigmej: with node you have single process
[14:50] pigmej: so if you have multicore cpu 
[14:50] pigmej: try node-cluster;)
[14:50] Benjie: skapism, do you have quad core?
[14:50] skapism: dual core
[14:51] skapism: just your run of the mill laptop
[14:51] Benjie: skapism, hyperthreading?
[14:52] skapism: yeah, given it's an intel
[14:52] skapism: are those 3k requests really the cpu blocking? nothing else?
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[14:53] mikael: hey everyone, holy crap, that's a lot of people in here
[14:53] skapism: how you guys get if you do a similar benchmark (if anyone cares to do it)?
[14:53] skapism: how much*
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[15:05] alessio_alex: I'm trying to benchmark more concurrent connections but I get: 
[15:05] alessio_alex: (node) Hit max file limit. Increase "ulimit -n"
[15:05] alessio_alex: how do I do that?
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[15:06] baudehlo: type "ulimit -n <number>" on the command line
[15:06] baudehlo: you may hit max limits though (this is OS dependant)
[15:08] alessio_alex: oh
[15:08] alessio_alex: ok
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[15:18] antlong: how do you account for html changing via JS, when running a test with zombie, or such? i'm opening the page the first time, but after a few seconds, some new text is written, which i can't seem to get
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[15:18] EyePulp: mape: got a sec?  I'm trying to get the basic example running for node-scraper, and I've installed all the required packages, but get "TypeError: Cannot call method 'runInContext' of undefined" 
[15:19] mape: EyePulp: seems like a jsdom issue
[15:19] EyePulp: antlong: zombie is supposed to run scripts on the page
[15:19] bogomips2_: when i run configure i get all ok but not this : Checking for header port.h   : not found, Checking for header sys/event.h          : not found Checking for header sys/queue.h          : yes 
[15:19] bogomips2_: Checking for function kqueue             : not found, Checking for header sys/eventfd.h        : not found  can i have problem or limitation ? i use debian in a8core cpu
[15:20] ryah: bogomips2_: dont worry about it
[15:20] ryah: it's normal
[15:20] bogomips2_: ok thanks ;)
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[15:24] sh4wn: clifton you there?
[15:24] EyePulp: mape: you're correct - the error does seem to be coming from jsdom - I just did npm installs of all the required packages and ran the basic example.  Any other pieces I need to make the example work?
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[15:27] Benjie: hornairs, in case you haven't already had the answer: node --debug-brk[=port]
[15:28] Benjie: hornairs, "The --debug-brk option is needed when your script is short lived (no time to attach debugger) and/or you want to observe the NodeApp.js execution from the very start. This option will force execution to break at the first line of the main script and wait for debugger to connect."
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[15:29] hornairs: Benjie i think --debug-brk is deprecated/removed
[15:29] hornairs: i tried it and got "unrecognized option", bummer.
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[15:39] ryah: this next patch will excite some people.
[15:39] ryah: wait for it....
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[15:39] Ian_Corne: waiting..
[15:39] halfhalo: oh, oh, oh, does it make puppies appear in mid air?!?
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[15:41] CIA-110: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r33af272 10/ (763 files in 31 dirs): Upgrade V8 to 3.4.8 - http://bit.ly/le9ICm
[15:41] pTa_armi: hi =)
[15:41] pTa_armi: somebody there who can give me some infos about backbonejs? I'm searching for someone who has some experience with backbonejs, jasmine and jstestdriver for tdd. Is this a good idea to use this stack for a big js-heavy webapp?
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[15:42] mahna: pTa_armi: Try #documentcloud
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[15:42] pTa_armi: no answer after 4 hours
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[15:42] Ian_Corne: well, maybe they're european and at work?
[15:43] pTa_armi: I'm at work too =)
[15:43] pTa_armi: but yes, that could be a prob, too
[15:43] halfhalo: 
ACTION is physically at work, but beyond that...

[15:43] mahna: I don't think they have a mailing list either.
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[16:00] felixge: ryah: anything great in v8 3.4.8?
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[16:01] felixge: Improved performance of try/catch. <-- maybe this?
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[16:02] tbranyen: felixge: is that related to the catch scoping?
[16:03] felixge: tbranyen: don't ask me, the v8 changelog isn't exactly a story book
[16:03] felixge: ;)
[16:03] tbranyen: afaik try on its own is fine, but the catch uses a dynamic scope
[16:03] tbranyen: like with
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[16:05] ryah: felixge: crankshaft by default
[16:05] ryah: on x64
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[16:08] tbranyen: ryah: oh thats sick
[16:09] luisl: JSONP for crossdomain policy with ajax?
[16:09] luisl: someone
[16:09] luisl: ?
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[16:10] felixge: ryah: crankshaft doesn't improve the benchmarks I care about ... 
[16:10] felixge: which means I still have to optimize performance ...  lame : )
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[16:31] vicapow: hello all.
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[16:32] vicapow: has anyone been able to use node-http-proxy to forward POST requests? only GET requests seem to be working for me
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[17:33] lukegalea: mape: Hey. I have a quick question re: connect-assetmanager
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[17:33] lukegalea: Do you have a sec?
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[17:36] mape: lukegalea: ask away
[17:38] lukegalea: mape: Thanks. I'm trying to find a "cache busting" technique to use with assetmanager. (ie: adding md5 to filename, etc). i see from your docs that you kinda expect that given that you use a regexp for the route to match css/js. But how are you generating the asset urls? It's a bit of a chicken or egg thing.. until there's a request for the bundled asset it won't exist, correct? so how do you get your express app to generate an md5 seede
[17:38] lukegalea: asset url for the assetmanger bundle? (I hope that makes sense!)
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[17:41] mape: lukegalea: yeah, right now the assetManager just keeps track of timestamps, used here: https://github.com/mape/node-express-boilerplate/blob/master/server.js#L95
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[17:42] mape: lukegalea: but you could easily add a postManipulate function that just takes the files content, md5s it and updates an object that you then pass to the template
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[17:43] Murvin: bnoordhuis: hi.. do u know if 0.4.9 has the socket fix?
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[17:43] lukegalea: mape: aaah. You know, that boilerplate was what I was missing. Great! Thanks.
[17:43] mape: np :)
[17:44] bnoordhuis: Murvin: no, haven't been able to reproduce it yet
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[17:46] dtan: is anyone running node.js on an nginx build?
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[17:46] softdrink: 
ACTION is about to start raging at svg.

[17:46] lukegalea: dtan: I have nginx in front of my node cluster
[17:46] Murvin: bnoordhuis:  need any help for reproduce the problem?  i tried on rackspace, ec2... etc   and can reproduce it everytime.   hmmm
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[17:46] dtan: lukegalea: did you build it from source? 
[17:46] dtan: or from a package manager?
[17:47] lukegalea: dtan: ah, I see what you were asking. Sorry. I used the ubuntu package for 10.10
[17:47] lukegalea: you need to handle compile for some reason?
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[17:47] dtan: gotcha
[17:47] lukegalea: I meant hand compile.
[17:48] dtan: trying to get the latest stable version
[17:48] dtan: i'm on fedora
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[17:48] dtan: 14
[17:48] dtan: and the yum install is 0.8.x
[17:48] dtan: but the latest stable is 1.0.4
[17:48] lukegalea: ah. I'm something of a redhat hater because everything is so out of date.
[17:48] dtan: i've never tried it before
[17:48] lukegalea: using ubuntu everything is much closer to the newest version.
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[17:48] dtan: gotcha
[17:48] lukegalea: so you don't have to hand build as much.
[17:49] dtan: well i installed 0.8.x with yum no prob
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[17:49] dtan: the only reason why i went with fedora was b/c my friend said that it's more secure than ubuntu
[17:49] bnoordhuis: Murvin: much appreciated but probably not, just haven't had much time to look into it
[17:49] dtan: but i've also heard ubuntu has gained a lot of traction the past couple years and the server edition is pretty decent
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[17:50] lukegalea: dtan: This could very easily become a religous debate :) But IMHO, Redhat packages tend to be really old, which means that they don't tend to update and run into issues with new version that might have vulnerabilities or bugs, but if you are using an "emerging technology"  the old version is likely way buggier and less secure than the new version.
[17:50] Murvin: bnoordhuis:  same here. i was planning to spend more time and dig deeper. but just too many other things need to work on. :(   
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[17:51] lukegalea: Take a look at the version of ruby included with fedora. It's 5 years old or something along those lines I think.
[17:51] dtan: lol
[17:51] CIA-110: libuv: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r39da51b 10/ (9 files in 8 dirs): Remove WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN - http://bit.ly/kQI56R
[17:51] dtan: so you think i might be better off going with ubuntu b/c it is more stable with node.js + nginx over fedora?
[17:51] lukegalea: we *do* use Redhat for PHP sites here, because the tech isn't rapidly evolving.
[17:52] dtan: right , makes sense
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[17:53] lukegalea: dtan: If you are content hand building everything then fedora is fine, but I find that it becomes a cascade.. ie: new version of X requires newer version of Y, requires newer version of Z.. We have to maintain our own private yum repo for fedora that includes updated versions of things like imagemagick, etc. But if you can get by with just building nginx, node, etc then I wouldn't kill yourself. 
[17:53] joeyjoe: hello
[17:53] dtan: heh, ya i'm not a server admin by trade 
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[17:53] lukegalea: dtan: But I can only imagine what would happen if you tried to install node-canvas or something like that with lots of dependencies... dunno, maybe it's fine. 
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[17:53] joeyjoe: does anyone else see ranlib (... has no symbols) warning when building libuv on OSX?
[17:53] dtan: what kind of dependencies does node-canvas have?
[17:54] lukegalea: cairo
[17:54] dtan: what's that?
[17:54] lukegalea: some image compositing library (C++?).. which has lots of other dependencies.
[17:54] dtan: ah gotcah
[17:54] dtan: hmmm
[17:55] lukegalea: but I would just proceed as you are, and the first time that you feel like it's getting out of control building everything by hand - switch to ubuntu :)
[17:55] softdrink: cairo is a vector drawing library
[17:55] lukegalea: aah
[17:55] lukegalea: there you go.
[17:55] softdrink: it's actually quite fast
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[17:56] lukegalea: ya, node-canvas works amazing. I've never used cairo directly.
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[17:57] dtan: i'll have to think it over now b/c i don't want to be maintaining shit
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[17:58] lukegalea: dtan: good call
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[17:59] ScottR4: I'm trying to build node after doing a ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/node, and keep getting this error: /usr/lib64/node/gcc: Command not found. Why is node looking for gcc in the prefix area?
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[18:01] scoates: is there a sane way for me to defer a return until a condition is met? (I basically want to optionally block what is normally a non-blocking operation.)
[18:01] ScottR4: scoates: if it's a build in function, many of them have synchronous versions
[18:01] ScottR4: built-in*
[18:01] scoates: 
ACTION nods

[18:02] ScottR4: scoates:  not the solution you want, I assume?
[18:02] tbranyen: caolanm: ping! you use urxvt as well?
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[18:03] scoates: I have a wrapper for an HTTP client. Now, it just gathers the response in a non-blocking way (and calls a callback). I'd like to (at the cost of blocking) be able to do this: `$_.get(url).username`   where $_.get(url) returns an object, and `.username` dereferences the username element.
[18:04] caolanm: tbranyen: hey, just trying it out
[18:04] mape: rauchg: Has there been any issues with socket.io only sending the first message when using xhr?
[18:04] scoates: now I have do to something like $_.get(url, function ($_) { return $_.username; });
[18:04] rauchg: mape
[18:04] rauchg: nop that i know of
[18:04] rauchg: using 0.7 ?
[18:04] caolanm: tbranyen: the tabbedex extension seems nice: https://github.com/stepb/urxvt-tabbedex
[18:04] mape: rauchg: using ttp://cdn.socket.io/stable/socket.io.js
[18:04] rauchg: well actually i never heard of that with any version
[18:04] rauchg: OH
[18:04] rauchg: don't use that
[18:04] rauchg: it's really really out of date
[18:04] rauchg: :$
[18:04] `3rdEden: lol
[18:04] mape: >_>
[18:04] rauchg: where did you get the link from
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[18:05] mape: some time ago
[18:05] rauchg: ive been trying to kill it
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[18:05] mape: seems logical it would still work though
[18:05] rauchg: but it keeps haunting me
[18:05] `3rdEden: shameless channel advertisement mape join #socket.io
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[18:05] rauchg: yeah amazon doesn't let me erase it
[18:05] tbranyen: caolanm: yeah i saw you follow it
[18:05] rauchg: :D
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[18:05] tbranyen: i have issues with copy/paste, but other than that its really nice
[18:05] `3rdEden: rauchg just upload alert('out of date');
[18:05] `3rdEden: ;D
[18:05] caolanm: tbranyen: the only thing that annoys me is that the font rendering is ever-so-slightly less smooth than xterm
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[18:06] caolanm: tbranyen: I can barely notice, but now I've noticed it its annoying me ;)
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[18:06] tbranyen: caolanm: oh you need to get ummm shit sec
[18:06] tbranyen: caolanm: http://www.infinality.net/blog/subpixel-hinting-patch-for-freetype/ use that with xft
[18:07] caolanm: ah, looks useful
[18:07] caolanm: thanks! :)
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[18:07] tbranyen: yeah i got a screenshot of my setup so you can see the font improvements
[18:07] ScottR4: can anyone help me with an issue I'm having with make && make install'ing node? ./configure --prefix seems to affect make looking for gcc in the specified prefix location...
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[18:08] tbranyen: caolanm: http://sharefilewith.me/u/d2fbc3.png << fonts look p good to me there
[18:08] tbranyen: large screenshot tho
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[18:09] caolanm: tbranyen: like the setup :)
[18:09] xerox: yes good font
[18:09] tbranyen: caolanm: i just wish copy/paste was better :-/ its been terrible for me
[18:09] tbranyen: shift insert not working half the time
[18:10] bradleymeck_: whats the proper way to setup /var folders etc during `npm install` since i get set to the nobody user sudo is not happy
[18:10] tbranyen: most of the time selecting doesn't copy into the x buffer
[18:11] dtan: lukegalea and it seems that ubuntu is used by a lot more people than fedora
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[18:13] lukegalea: dtan: I'm not sure about the stats.. you should probably consider CentOS and RHEL in your numbers for a fair comparison versus ubuntu, but they are even more out of date than fedora.
[18:13] dtan: right
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[18:14] dtan: that's kinda why i chose fedora over plain centos
[18:15] dtan: lukegalea - you said you're on ubuntu 10.10? 
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[18:16] lukegalea: yep. But just because 11.04 wasn't out when I set them up.
[18:16] dtan: my highest option is 10.19
[18:16] dtan: 10.10
[18:16] dtan: to choose from
[18:16] lukegalea: rackspace?
[18:16] dtan: ya lol
[18:16] lukegalea: hehe. me too.
[18:17] dtan: ah ok cool
[18:17] dtan: so you've already gone through all this set up bs
[18:17] lukegalea: yep ;)
[18:17] dtan: cool
[18:17] dtan: i'm spinning it up right now
[18:17] dtan: so i'll see how much more difficult it is
[18:17] dtan: ha
[18:18] lukegalea: it's easier. Just use aptitude as an interface to apt. and your init scripts are "upstart" scripts now..
[18:18] dtan: aptitude a desktop app or something?
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[18:24] lukegalea: dtan:  ncurses
[18:24] dtan: ncurses?
[18:24] lukegalea: text user interface.. old skool ansi type stuff
[18:24] dtan: oh ok
[18:24] lukegalea: it feels like playing a BBS door game
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[18:25] bradleymeck_: f me, it is hard to get access to mkdir /var/* from instide an npm install script
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[18:44] seemann: Quick question here, i'm starting to use socket.io, but i'm used to express.js. Is there a way I can associate a socket with a session?
[18:45] seemann: socket.io socket with a express session?
[18:45] seemann: via cookie maybe?
[18:45] wadey: seemann: i've used this with socket.io 0.6, not sure if it is fully updated for 0.7: https://github.com/aviddiviner/Socket.IO-sessions
[18:45] seemann: i'll give it a try then tyvm
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[18:49] `3rdEden: that one... looks a bit overkill to me
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[18:52] CIA-110: node: 03Henry Rawas 07master * r2e1af6d 10/ deps/v8/src/platform-win32.cc : 
[18:52] CIA-110: node: Fix V8 mingw32 build
[18:52] CIA-110: node: Reported to V8
[18:52] CIA-110: node: http://code.google.com/p/v8/issues/detail?id=1508 - http://bit.ly/irFsuB
[18:52] scoates: is there a way for me to yield my thread's execution to the event loop? (oversimplified, but if I have  for (var i=0; i<=10000000; i++) { /* can I yield control here somehow */ }  ? )
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[18:53] wadey: scoates: put your next step in process.nextTick(function() { ... })
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[18:53] xerox: in a browser you'd setTimeout( ..., shorttime ) I guess?
[18:54] scoates: wadey: I kind of want to do the opposite of nextTick, actually. I want to block (yes, yes.. I know it's bad.. this is for a very specific operation).
[18:54] insin: 
ACTION resets his "I Want To Block" alarm

[18:54] Draggor: scoates: Then you need to set up your code using a queue of some kind that you check.
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[18:55] Draggor: and whenever an action there is done, you call your next step/iterator function
[18:55] scoates: I know how to do it the *right* way. I'm trying to add syntactical sugar for a REPL.
[18:56] wadey: scoates: you can look at what I did here for blocking in the REPL: https://github.com/wadey/node-syncrepl
[18:56] wadey: might be close to what you are trying to do
[18:56] scoates: ok, I will, wadey. Thanks.
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[18:57] bradleymeck_: isaacs about?
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[19:01] isaacs: bradleymeck_: hey
[19:01] isaacs: what's up?
[19:02] stride: hm, when did the mailing list become so meh?
[19:02] antlong: 4 score and 7 years ago
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[19:04] isaacs: bradleymeck_: you shoudln't be mkdir'ing anything in /var from an npm package...?
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[19:04] isaacs: stride: what did you find exciting about it previously?
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[19:08] scoates: wadey: closer to what I actually want would be something like this: require('request').get({uri: 'http://nodejs.org/'}).res.body  (yes, I know get doesn't return an object with a res element, but I think this might explain it better)
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[19:08] wadey: yeah, my solution is fairly simple so that it works easily
[19:09] wadey: but thought it might give you some ideas on how to solve it
[19:10] scoates: I don't see where you're simulating the block, to be honest
[19:10] scoates: my brain hurts from wading through this stuff for a bit too long, though, so I'm sure it's more obvious than I'm noticing
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[19:11] isaacs: whoa, uglifycss is a port of the yuicompressor's css minifier.
[19:12] isaacs: this is so trippy.
[19:12] wadey: scoates: https://github.com/wadey/node-syncrepl/blob/master/syncrepl.js#L206
[19:12] isaacs: cssmin, as well.
[19:12] wadey: if the call was async, then the prompt isn't displayed
[19:12] scoates: ah
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[19:13] scoates: but your calls don't *actually* wait to chain, somehow.
[19:13] scoates: this looks closer, but it's hacky, too: https://github.com/Sage/streamlinejs
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[19:18] tenumm: http://bespin.cz/~ondras/html/classv8_1_1ObjectTemplate.html#a80e9db593d8b954c4153082dc7a439d .. SetNamedPropertyHandler(namedPropertyGetter) is giving error are we suppose to provide setter also ?
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[19:20] tenumm: According to spec - SetNamedPropertyHandler providing setter is not compulsory. I am not sure why I am still getting error  
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[19:25] sirganya: if you had some apps running on the same domain would you use routes or http-proxy? I'm lost
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[19:27] sirganya: is this the normal way? https://github.com/visionmedia/express/blob/master/examples/route-separation/app.js
[19:28] tjholowaychuk: apps and routes are pretty different :p
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[19:28] tjholowaychuk: but yeah you could use some sort of proxy for vhosts
[19:29] sirganya: I just discovered vhosts..
[19:29] sirganya: It always happens as soon as I post a question, I find the answer
[19:29] tjholowaychuk: oh sorry you said same domain
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[19:30] sirganya: I have an app I built before I stated with express, and a couchdb.. I'd like to send requests to each one and have them all come back thru port 80
[19:31] sirganya: vhosts looks like the answer?
[19:33] tjholowaychuk: if it's the same app check out http://learnboost.github.com/cluster/
[19:33] tjholowaychuk: cluster will spawn N workers, with the same app
[19:34] sirganya: cheers! I'll have a look
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[19:40] bnoordhuis: Murvin: does the socket hang up when you hammer node with ab?
[19:40] bnoordhuis: s/hang up/hang up happen/
[19:41] bnoordhuis: is it node's http client that has the issue?
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[19:59] bitwise_: wish i knew why chrome won't connect to the node-inspector instance but safari will.
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[20:02] isaacs: tjholowaychuk: what did express.bodyDecoder() turn into in 2.0?
[20:02] tjholowaychuk: bodyParser
[20:02] tjholowaychuk: haha
[20:02] isaacs: thanks :)
[20:02] tjholowaychuk: :D
[20:02] tjholowaychuk: i didnt like the word
[20:02] isaacs: 
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[20:02] tjholowaychuk: same with cookieParser
[20:03] isaacs: tjholowaychuk: and staticProvider -> static?
[20:03] tjholowaychuk: yup
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[20:04] isaacs: whoa, baby, ejs error dumps got WAAAYAYYYY nicer.
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[20:05] tjholowaychuk: haha yeah stylus/jade/ejs have more or less the same error reporting now
[20:05] tjholowaychuk: still can't do much with syntax errors though
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[20:06] isaacs: sure
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[20:08] isaacs: tjholowaychuk: is there a way to specify a subfolder for partials?
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[20:08] isaacs: so partial('foo') loads up views/partials/foo.ejs instead of views/foo.ejs?
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[20:09] tjholowaychuk: in 2.x they are relative so you can have say ./views/user/{index,settings}.jade or something and just do partial('settings')
[20:09] isaacs: i see.
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[20:11] tjholowaychuk: the lookup is a little complicated and not documented well right now :(
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[20:11] tjholowaychuk: but it's closer to require() in a sense
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[20:12] tjholowaychuk: like-wise with layouts, if you have ./views/user/layout.jade it's chosen over ./views/layout.jade
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[20:16] nibblebot: i'm trying to build mongoose for running the tests and submitting patches. I cloned repo. now do i need to npm install in root and then npm install in each of support/*?
[20:17] isaacs: tjholowaychuk: it seems like i can make my stuff work by just moving the partials into the same views/ folder.
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[20:18] tjholowaychuk: isaacs yup, i believe i have the lookup for partials defaulting to the given path relative to the views root
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[20:18] dall: hi
[20:18] jesusabdullah: Hi!
[20:19] tjholowaychuk: for super common things like displaying messages doing partial('messages') from anywhere instead of partial('../../nessages')
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[20:22] dall: tjholowaychuk, why createWriteStream and not fs.writeFile ??
[20:22] tjholowaychuk: because one is a stream
[20:22] tjholowaychuk: and one is not
[20:22] dall: and we are looking for a stream
[20:22] dall: :D
[20:22] dall: true!
[20:22] dall: :D
[20:23] Prometheus: I wonder why I can't make a connection to freenode with net.Socket :/
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[20:25] ekryski: Hello all. I was wondering if there are any of you up here in Canada.
[20:26] ekryski: Specifically the Calgary area
[20:26] lukstr: ekryski: The former, not the latter
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[20:28] ekryski: so there's one! I know that tjhollowaychuk is in Victoria.
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[20:28] ekryski: lukstr: where you at?
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[20:29] niftylettuce: anyone here know of a good Github/Growl notifier for new pushes on a repo?
[20:29] mikeal: SubStack: beer.js tonight?
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[20:30] SubStack: mikeal: sure
[20:30] SubStack: whereabouts?
[20:30] mikeal: https://twitter.com/mikeal/status/86158717418094593
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[20:32] isaacs: tjholowaychuk: any idea how to go about tracking this down?  "Error: Can't set headers after they are sent."
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[20:32] isaacs: tjholowaychuk: stack trace leads back to res.render("login.ejs", {locals: { blah: bloo } })
[20:32] tjholowaychuk: isaacs: that's node's lovely way to letting you know you responded twice usually due to bugs causing double callbacks etc
[20:32] tjholowaychuk: hmm
[20:32] isaacs: hm.
[20:33] isaacs: worked fine on express 1.0
[20:33] tjholowaychuk: that's because node failed silently
[20:33] tjholowaychuk: we had a bug in mongoose for example that would do a few queries blah blah and end up at times invoking the callback more than once
[20:33] tjholowaychuk: so res.render()ing more than once
[20:33] isaacs: hm... looks like the static middleware is getting an ENOENT
[20:34] tjholowaychuk: it's lame too because I think getHeader() still bitches after the header is sent
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[20:34] tjholowaychuk: so you can't use it in logger() or similar
[20:35] isaacs: yeah, so, if i'm understanding this correctly, going to /login is causing the static middleware to look for /public/login, that's failing, so it's trying to 500, and at the same time, the login.ejs is trying to send its contents
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[20:37] tjholowaychuk: depends a bit on where static() is use()d but on ENOENT it will just next()
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[20:37] isaacs: hm...
[20:37] tjholowaychuk: if you have app.use(app.router); app.use(..static()) then the routes have first chance to respond
[20:37] tjholowaychuk: but if you res.render(); AND next()
[20:37] tjholowaychuk: you'll have a mess
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[20:39] tjholowaychuk: feel free to send a private gist if you want, always easier to help with code
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[20:39] RobertPitt: heya guys
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[20:45] micheil: tjholowaychuk: hey, just checking a rumour, but do you live on a zoo?
[20:45] micheil: or like own a zoo?
[20:45] tjholowaychuk: on a zoo? haha no
[20:45] tjholowaychuk: i just have lots of pets
[20:45] micheil: ah
[20:46] tjholowaychuk: 3 ferrets and we're fostering 6 kittens and the mom cat right now
[20:46] micheil: okay, so the rumor is almost right, but still wrong.
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[20:46] tjholowaychuk: haha yeah
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[20:46] micheil: the other tangential is, has any node.js developers meet you in person?
[20:47] dall: tjholowaychuk, can i not print the HOST of the request on the logs ?
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[20:47] micheil: (there were a few questions going around like "is tjholowaychuk actually _why?"
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[20:47] tjholowaychuk: dall: use the :req[header] thing
[20:47] tjholowaychuk: micheil bahaha
[20:47] Prometheus: niftylettuce: I'm not sure if Github for mac (are you on a mac?) has Growl support
[20:48] tjholowaychuk: i dont write crazy cryptic code, definitely not _why
[20:48] micheil: tjholowaychuk: this is london man, there's some crazy stories about our american counterparts.
[20:48] Prometheus: someone needs to balance all this Rubyism with Pythonism =P
[20:48] dall: tjholowaychuk, tried it returns undefined
[20:48] tjholowaychuk: micheil canadian! haha
[20:48] micheil: tjholowaychuk: american, from origin of the continent of america
[20:48] micheil: primarily north america
[20:48] isaacs: micheil: that's not how it's used here.
[20:49] micheil: >_>
[20:49] tjholowaychuk: pfft haha, canada will float away
[20:49] isaacs: micheil: canada is america as much as new zealand is australia
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[20:49] micheil: isaacs: okay then. although, it is the "north american plate"
[20:49] isaacs: american = from the us
[20:50] isaacs: if anyone is the _why of node, it's SubStack 
[20:50] micheil: where as it's not the "australian plate", it's the oceania plate or something
[20:50] micheil: the reference to _why was more so "does tjholowaychuk actually exist?"
[20:50] jesusabdullah: _why makes me :(
[20:50] jesusabdullah: I just don't like his artistic style
[20:50] tjholowaychuk: i appreciate some of his projects
[20:51] tjholowaychuk: his more recent stuff was not nearly a messy
[20:51] jesusabdullah: I hear some do!
[20:51] jesusabdullah: ah
[20:51] isaacs: it's a little more hipster, in a lot of the same ways that ruby is a little more hipster than node
[20:51] micheil: anyway, it's getting late here in london, so I'm off to a pub to find a light drink and some food..
[20:51] isaacs: g'nite
[20:51] niftylettuce: Prometheus: no im on linux, looking at libnotify1 package and https://github.com/ctshryock/GithubNotifier and https://github.com/fgnass/node-dev
[20:51] Prometheus: niftylettuce: ah, alright
[20:51] Prometheus: can't help then, sorry
[20:51] niftylettuce: PrgmrBill: debian rather
[20:52] micheil: (side note, in the next few days I should be releasing a port of node-async-testing for the client-side)
[20:52] Marak: isaacs: its all apples and oranges
[20:52] isaacs: Marak: very comparable fruits, despite popular opinion to the contrary
[20:53] micheil: for one, both are fruits. :P
[20:53] Marak: isaacs: aint nutin wrong with fruit smoothies
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[20:54] mikey_p: never heard of an apple smoothie
[20:55] systemfault: A glass of Steve Jobs's saliva?
[20:55] adelgado: chunky cider?
[20:56] Nexxy: 
ACTION gags a little

[20:56] Nexxy: systemfault--
[20:56] v8bot:  Nexxy has taken a beer from systemfault. systemfault now has 11 beers.
[20:56] SubStack: ~/sb end
[20:56] SubStack: haha
[20:56] systemfault: Good thing that I say good things on ##Javascript :'( It pays for my evilness here
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[20:58] ekryski: tjhollowaychuk: do you know any guys using Node out my way in Calgary?
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[20:59] tjholowaychuk: ekryski nope
[20:59] tjholowaychuk: i only know 2 guys in vic i think, not personally but i know there are a few
[21:00] ekryski: damn! I just got slapped with a tighter deadline and I'm kinda freaking now. I hate when biz dev guys think code is copy paste shit all the time
[21:00] tjholowaychuk: haha yeah those are the wrong people to work for
[21:00] tjholowaychuk: deadlines == shit code
[21:00] tjholowaychuk: well unreasonable deadlines
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[21:01] Murvin: from where? vic?  
[21:01] ekryski: I know right. I can't help working for them either.
[21:01] ekryski: Murvin: I'm in Calgary
[21:02] Murvin: oooh.  calgary.  oil companies?
[21:02] ekryski: This one is telecom
[21:02] ekryski: no way oil would use node
[21:02] Murvin: oh..  don't tell me is telus.. lol
[21:03] ekryski: Mruvin: ha ha. No. I work for a telecom startup that is gathering analytics for cell phone usage.
[21:03] ekryski: *Murvin
[21:03] Murvin: yaaa. ekryski*
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[21:04] Murvin: good to use node to do analytics..  i used that for online traffic analytics a few months ago.  :)  
[21:04] Murvin: anyone has G+?  
[21:05] ekryski: Murvin: Ya I thought it would be a good fit.  We need to be able to handle a lot of short burst traffic
[21:05] ekryski: tjhollowaychuk you wanna come and enjoy Stampede and come and work on some code???
[21:05] dtan: hey, i just install nginx on an ubuntu box and am trying to compile node from the git repo but i keep on getting this error:
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[21:05] tjholowaychuk: stampede?
[21:05] Murvin: ekryski:  Ec2?   i handle short burst by using ec2 micro instance.   
[21:05] tjholowaychuk: I'm originally from edmonton, I can't stand alberta haha
[21:05] dtan: sources/node/wscript:319: error: Could not autodetect OpenSSL support. Make sure OpenSSL development packages are installed. Use configure --without-ssl to disable this message.
[21:05] dtan: anyone run into this issue before?
[21:06] Murvin: dtan:  give me one moment.
[21:06] dtan: cool, thanks murvin
[21:06] dtan: brb too
[21:06] ekryski: you don't know it? Ya I knew you were from Edmonton. Stampede is just one big redneck party
[21:06] tjholowaychuk: gross
[21:06] tjholowaychuk: haha
[21:06] Murvin: dtan:  ubuntu, right?
[21:06] Murvin: dtan: do this:  sudo apt-get install libsll-dev  
[21:07] ekryski: sluts and all. It's quite a sight. Gets old when you've lived here your whole life.
[21:07] Nexxy: 
ACTION gasps

[21:07] Nexxy: ekryski, language!
[21:07] ekryski: sorry
[21:07] Murvin: tjholowaychuk:  Edmonton oiler..   I m Nucks .  lol
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[21:07] tjholowaychuk: alberta gets old after the first few days
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[21:08] ekryski: Murvin: right now we are using our own dedicated hardware. I tried to convince them to use ec2 but they bought stuff anyway
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[21:09] dtan: k murvin, hmmm gives me "unable to locate libsll-dev
[21:09] bnoordhuis: dtan Murvin: libssl-dev
[21:09] dtan: right
[21:09] ekryski: I have to say I do like living here overall. Lots of space but I've never been to vic
[21:09] Murvin: ekryski:  i see.  then it will be tough..  because short burst is better to handle in cloud.   
[21:09] dtan: ok, was about to ask
[21:09] Murvin: dtan: yes.. libssl-dev  typo
[21:10] Murvin: bnoordhuis: thanks. lol. typo
[21:10] dtan: yup np
[21:10] dtan: haha two in a row
[21:10] dtan: k installed
[21:10] dtan: now i should be able to ./configure?
[21:10] ekryski: Murvin: you think so? Just because you can spin up more instances?
[21:10] Murvin: yes.
[21:10] dtan: sweet
[21:10] dtan: thanks murvin
[21:10] Murvin: ekryski:  yes.  
[21:11] Murvin: dtan:  np.  
[21:11] bnoordhuis: Murvin: about https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/1176 - do you experience the hangups in the client or the server?
[21:11] dtan: oh but in the output, it says "checking for openssl: not found"
[21:11] dtan: is that expected?
[21:11] ekryski: Murvin: or the guys could just buy more servers.  If we get big enough we'll probably have our own mini server farm. We're in talks with some big telecom providers
[21:12] bnoordhuis: dtan: can you gist or pastie the complete log?
[21:12] Murvin: bnoordhuis:  the problems are always in the server making http.request (client request) call.   
[21:12] dtan: sure
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[21:12] Murvin: ekryski: buy more servers is not the good way to handle burst.  
[21:12] bnoordhuis: Murvin: so if i have a server that does a request to another server and i hammer it hard with `ab`, it should manifest itself?
[21:12] Murvin: ekryski: because u never know how big the spike is.
[21:13] dtan: bnoordhuis, murvin: https://gist.github.com/1054996
[21:13] Nexxy: Murvin: I've heard that before
[21:13] Murvin: bnoordhuis: correct.   let say serverA  makes http.request to  serverB.   serverB just send back simple data.
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[21:13] jerrysv: this problem looks familiar
[21:13] Murvin: bnoordhuis:  and serverB will always survive.. have no problem at all.
[21:13] bnoordhuis: dtan: you're good to go, it detected the openssl dev headers
[21:14] dtan: k
[21:14] bnoordhuis: Murvin: okay, thanks
[21:14] Murvin: bnoordhuis:  the socket hang up , or socket "Use Up" problem is on serverA that establishing http.request
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[21:15] ekryski: Murvin: Fair enough. Can you configure ec2 to automatically spin up another instanceor do you have to do it manually?
[21:15] dtan: bnoordhuis - so that "no openssl" is expected?
[21:15] Murvin: dtan:  so,  openssl not found?
[21:15] ekryski: Murvin: we also can't really afford to have any down time.
[21:15] MattJ: ekryski: it's possible, via 3rd party services if it isn't built-in now (I think it is)
[21:15] dtan: that's what the output says, but bnoordhuis is saying it's ok
[21:16] ekryski: thanks MattJ
[21:16] bnoordhuis: dtan: yes, sort of - ./configure doesn't detect openssl on my machine either but node builds fine (with ssl support)
[21:16] dtan: ah ok, cool
[21:16] Murvin: ekryski:  you have to set up in EC2, and it will spawn new micro instance when needs.  and automatically stop the instance when no more spike
[21:16] dtan: just wanted to make sure it was correct
[21:16] dtan: thanks bnoordhuis and murvin
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[21:18] Murvin: ekryski: my suggestion is go to cloud with Ec2, or rackspace.   IN technical point of view, no physical failure you should deal with.   and for yourself, you can blame amazon if their cloud is down.  You shift some of the responsibility to them. :)
[21:18] Prometheus: Murvin: that's no excuse =P
[21:18] Prometheus: if their cloud is down only partly, it's still your fault
[21:18] ekryski: Especially if you are the one that suggested it :-P
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[21:20] Murvin: Prometheus:  i know.. but setting up everything to handle high volumn, different regions, spike.. etc   means either you have to have a good team and with lots of investments.   anything goes wrong means job is gone for sure.
[21:20] Prometheus: =)
[21:20] Prometheus: Murvin: it's called automation
[21:20] Prometheus: and monitoring
[21:21] Murvin: at least, using Ec2, u don't have to deal with too much low level technical things.. and focus on higher level stuff.  :)
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[21:22] Prometheus: hmm?
[21:22] Murvin: Prometheus:  yeah.. i know.. i did that before.     have a dedicate server, set up my own monitoring system..etc    take quite some time to do it.  
[21:22] Prometheus: it does, sure :)
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[21:22] Prometheus: but if you need all the redundancy, then you don't have much of a choice
[21:22] Murvin: :)
[21:22] Murvin: true. hahaha
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[21:23] Murvin: ekryski:  i think you should look into different options. and see which one meet your budget. :)
[21:23] Prometheus: luckily things have gotten a lot easier/simpler recently
[21:24] Murvin: ekryski:  for Amazon, the service you should take a look is Auto Scaling.   go to aws.amazon.com   click "products"
[21:25] Murvin: Prometheus:  yea.. agree. heheh and node also makes life easier. lol
[21:25] Prometheus: how would you debug if your socket connections are actually doing stuff they are suppose to do?
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[21:25] Prometheus: I'm connecting w/ net.Socket to irc.freenode.net 6667 (yes, writing irc stuff, silly, I know), but I'm not getting anything back from the server beyond the initial notices
[21:26] Prometheus: even though I'm sending the appropriate messages
[21:26] dtan: murvin, bnoordhuis - now a make error with node - https://gist.github.com/1055024
[21:26] Prometheus: but if I do the same using telnet (manually) it works just fine
[21:26] bnoordhuis: Prometheus: tcpdump?
[21:26] Prometheus: bnoordhuis: ah true, good call, thanks :)
[21:27] bnoordhuis: dtan: what version of node are you trying to build?
[21:27] Prometheus: forgot I've a bunch of pcap tools installed too :S
[21:27] dtan: i just pulled it from git so that might be the issue
[21:27] bnoordhuis: dtan: `git checkout v0.4.9`
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[21:27] dtan: k
[21:28] bnoordhuis: Prometheus: is a lifesaver, tcpdump is
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[21:28] Prometheus: bnoordhuis: agreed, I tend to forget about it :)
[21:28] Prometheus: but I shouldn't, obviously
[21:30] dtan: bnoordhuis: looks like the same issue
[21:31] tauren: is there an irc channel for jade?
[21:31] dtan: oh but do i need to change the remote or something that that branch would be pulling from?
[21:31] tjholowaychuk: tauren nah, easiest to ask in #express
[21:31] bnoordhuis: dtan: you probably need to do a `make distclean && git clean -dfx` first
[21:31] tauren: tjholowaychuk: ok, thanks
[21:31] bnoordhuis: dtan: the build system doesn't clean out all files right now
[21:31] dtan: ah ok
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[21:34] dtan: how do i make my repo switch to teh v0.4.9 tag?
[21:34] Nexxy: shouldn't there just be a #tjholowaychuk channel?
[21:34] tjholowaychuk: haha
[21:34] dtan: even with the git checkout v0.4.9 it's not giving me that tag
[21:34] Nexxy: where everyone can go to pay homage and receive premium free support from the man himself?
[21:34] bnoordhuis: dtan: does it say 0.5.0-pre?
[21:34] Nexxy: since as we all know, tj is available 24/7 to answer any and all questions you may have regarding one of his fabulous libraries.
[21:34] tjholowaychuk: i got a starbucks card once haha <3
[21:34] tjholowaychuk: extra coffee to keep me going
[21:35] Nexxy: starbuckets!!
[21:35] Nexxy: 
ACTION jealous

[21:35] Nexxy: their mini cheesecakes are omgwoah
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[21:35] dtan: bnoordhuis: i don't see that, b/c i am still getting the same error even after cleaning up
[21:35] Murvin: Nexxy:  I start wondering if tj is a real human.. or a bot..  alwasy 24/7.  lol
[21:35] dtan: but i know i'm not on the right tag b/c i'm looking at the commit history
[21:35] bnoordhuis: dtan: well, `git checkout v0.4.8` then
[21:35] dtan: and it's not the right history
[21:35] bnoordhuis: 0.4.9 is just a couple of hours old
[21:35] RickardL: Does anyone know of a really well-designed node.js restful webservice, with a more complex backend
[21:36] Nexxy: I recall someone mentioning the possibility that "TJ" actually stands for team joyent
[21:36] Nexxy: he is just a persona for the collective
[21:36] tjholowaychuk: oh god lol
[21:36] niftylettuce: tjholowaychuk: dunkin donuts yo
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[21:36] niftylettuce: Nexxy++
[21:36] v8bot:  niftylettuce has given a beer to Nexxy. Nexxy now has 9 beers.
[21:37] Murvin: RichardL:  npmjs   there is something called "webservice"  
[21:37] niftylettuce: tjholowaychuk: thx for pull earlier
[21:37] Murvin: RichardaL:  hopefully that's what you are looking for.. :)
[21:37] gf3: creationix: HP was dropping your name like crazy at this webOS CONNECT event last night
[21:37] Nexxy: 
ACTION puts niftylettuce in the crisper

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[21:37] niftylettuce: Nexxy: whats a crisper
[21:37] Nexxy: it keeps you crisp!
[21:37] niftylettuce: Nexxy: like a potato chip
[21:37] Nexxy: you were looking a little wilted
[21:38] niftylettuce: Nexxy: yeah wilted.js
[21:38] Nexxy: it's liek
[21:38] Nexxy: a box...
[21:38] Nexxy: with humidity "control"
[21:38] Nexxy: that makes greens and vegetables stay fresher
[21:38] niftylettuce: Nexxy: oh so like a crisper
[21:38] Nexxy: YEAH!
[21:39] Nexxy: I guess what i'm trying to say is
[21:39] Nexxy: basically... a crisper... it's like a crisper
[21:39] Prometheus: weird, I see my packages go out to the server
[21:39] Prometheus: just not getting a response..
[21:39] niftylettuce: Crisper.js, keeping your plants.js watered.js
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[21:39] RickardL: Murvin: Thanks but I wasn't talking about a module, just interested in the architecture behind it
[21:39] Nexxy: do you really have any of those projects?
[21:40] Nexxy: if not you need to
[21:40] niftylettuce: Nexxy: :) when i find time
[21:40] niftylettuce: Nexxy: gotta learn some more first
[21:40] Nexxy: not me!
[21:41] Nexxy: I learn by fucking things up :D
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[21:41] creationix: gf3: awesome
[21:41] Murvin: Nexxy: i learn by being fucked up.
[21:41] creationix: gf3: who was speaking?
[21:41] RickardL: I'm currently developing one, with riak-js and rabbitmq, using express etc.
[21:41] Nexxy: Murvin, let's talk.. we may have a future together
[21:41] niftylettuce: effed.js
[21:42] niftylettuce: hipster.js
[21:42] Nexxy: thisiswaybetteronvinyl.js
[21:42] gozala: isaacs got a minute ?
[21:42] Murvin: Nexxy: yeah.. sure..   that's perfect.  I'm living in a rainbow city
[21:42] Nexxy: me too!
[21:42] Nexxy: you should have seen the pride parade
[21:42] Nexxy: it was amazing
[21:42] gf3: creationix: I don't remember the names of two of the guys, but one was Enda
[21:42] Murvin: Nexxy: I'm also staying on a rainbow street.   
[21:42] creationix: nice
[21:43] creationix: I was at events here in CA all weekend
[21:43] halfhalo: hah
[21:43] gf3: creationix: nice!
[21:43] Murvin: Nexxy: are you in the parade?
[21:43] Nexxy: no, I wish
[21:43] Nexxy: a few of my friends were tho
[21:44] Nexxy: ... mostly nude
[21:44] RickardL: I'm doing some business logic in node.js, but I don't know how deep I should go and if it impacts the performance of the application. I'm kind of doing it the .NET/Java way, with design patterns and stuff. All other examples are really simple, nothing like I'm used to
[21:44] Murvin: Murvin: that's Fucking HOT!!!! damn. 
[21:44] Nexxy: mental node; murvin talks to himself in the third person
[21:45] Nexxy: ... on irc
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[21:45] Murvin: RichardL:  may be you can put elaborate a little bit more. in my personal experience, I have to rethink the architecture in the node way. :)
[21:46] Murvin: Nexxy:  no.. i m googling you.. stalking you. u better watch out. LOL j/k
[21:46] Nexxy: lol
[21:46] Nexxy: well I don't make it too hard
[21:46] RickardL: It's a shop-frontend powered by QR and NFC readers, with a distributed load-balancing backend.
[21:46] RickardL: It's for our univeristy café
[21:47] Nexxy: how big is the cafe~?
[21:47] Nexxy: to need a load balancer?!
[21:47] Nexxy: jesus
[21:47] Murvin: load balance the coffee?
[21:47] Nexxy: lol
[21:48] Nexxy: over-engineering ftl
[21:48] RickardL: No, the payment processes and the terminals, it also covers all the major events, like concerts etc
[21:48] Murvin: I havne't had any cup of coffee today yet.
[21:48] kmiyashiro: I had too much coffee
[21:48] Nexxy: RickardL, out of curiosity, are you involved in the payment processing code?
[21:49] Murvin: if you have a nice separate between front end (html, js,etc) and backend logic, especially if most data is from ajax, the backend can be done in Node easily.
[21:49] Nexxy: I'm still hunting for a payment processor that has a decent API and actually processes card present transactions
[21:49] Murvin: and peformance wise, you will be amazed.. and it will save you lots of $$$.
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[21:50] RickardL: Nexxy: I'm in Sweden, as far as my experience goes, I've never encountered problems with either online or standard card processing
[21:50] Nexxy: ohh oki
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[21:50] RickardL: It
[21:50] Murvin: is your payment company providing you a good api?  
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[21:51] Nexxy: that's what I'm mostly interested in
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[21:52] RickardL: We use DIBS Payment Services
[21:53] RickardL: and PayEX Solutions
[21:54] RickardL: PayEx is like paypal
[21:55] RickardL: DIBS is used for debit and credit
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[21:56] RickardL: But back to my question, is there a reason I don't see larger applications on github with high use of javascript design patterns
[21:57] RickardL: For example, I was suprised to see that noone had converted GOF's to Coffeescript
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[21:58] Murvin: because larger application may not be open source. :)
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[21:58] bnoordhuis: RickardL: strict adherence to design patterns is a symptom of disease
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[21:58] Murvin: Nexxy:  so, no more parade in CA or SF?
[21:59] Nexxy: IDK, I'm in PDX
[21:59] Murvin: what is PDX?
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[21:59] jerrysv: portland :)
[21:59] RickardL: bnoordhuis: I agree, I encourage people to if possible refactor to them, but not start out with them unless obvious applications are present
[21:59] Nexxy: portland, or
[21:59] Murvin: oooh
[21:59] jerrysv: *heart* portland
[21:59] Nexxy: ours was on the 20th
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[21:59] Murvin: sorry.. i m up in the north.  :)
[22:00] Nexxy: jerrysv++
[22:00] v8bot:  Nexxy has given a beer to jerrysv. jerrysv now has 2 beers.
[22:00] Murvin: i see... ours should be August. lol  
[22:00] Nexxy: ;3
[22:00] jerrysv: nexxy++
[22:00] v8bot:  jerrysv has given a beer to nexxy. nexxy now has 1 beers.
[22:00] Nexxy: I wish I could go to them all!
[22:00] jesusabdullah: hah
[22:00] jerrysv: mostly for portland :)
[22:00] Murvin: i haven't received any beer yet.. :(...
[22:00] jesusabdullah: Portland has a lot of hipsters and rain
[22:00] jesusabdullah: but at least they also have beer!
[22:00] Nexxy: original hipsters*
[22:00] jesusabdullah: And a few friends o' mine
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[22:00] jerrysv: jesusabdullah: the rain was just while you were here
[22:00] jerrysv: and today
[22:00] Nexxy: portland was hipster before it was trendy...
[22:00] jesusabdullah: O.H. doesn't have the same ring as O.G.
[22:01] jesusabdullah: XD
[22:01] bnoordhuis: RickardL: one reason why you don't see many design patterns in JS is that most don't apply
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[22:01] jesusabdullah: jerrysv: Yeah, I suspected as much. It was really sunny when I first got here but the last few days have been rainy
[22:01] Nexxy: JS design patterns are easy!
[22:01] jerrysv: 
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[22:01] bnoordhuis: RickardL: take the visitor pattern for example, not necessary as you can pass functions around
[22:01] jesusabdullah: also, SF has its share of hipsters
[22:01] jerrysv: probably just run-off from here
[22:03] RickardL: bnoordhuis: Aye, that's true but most other like proxy, composite adapter etc are still valid ones
[22:03] RickardL: I guess node has changed that, since most design patterns are more suited for server-side operations
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[22:05] RickardL: At least I hope so, or my repo will be laughing stock of the node community :p'
[22:05] jerrysv: nexxy: you ever make it to bailey's?
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[22:06] vineethkashyap: hey there
[22:06] dtan: bnoordhuis i got node to install correctly, i just forgot to checkout the tag correctly when i switch branches
[22:06] vineethkashyap: has anyone used the debugger in node?
[22:06] dtan: ok i'm out 
[22:06] Nexxy: jerrysv, I'm not much into the pub scene
[22:06] Murvin: vineethkashyap: i use node-inspector
[22:07] vineethkashyap: murvin: have you used the basic debugger in node ever?
[22:07] vineethkashyap: documented here:
[22:07] vineethkashyap: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.9/api/debugger.html
[22:07] Murvin: vineethkashyap: no. :)
[22:08] vineethkashyap: murvin: how is node-inspector?
[22:08] vineethkashyap: pretty easy to setup and use?
[22:08] Murvin: yes.
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[22:09] Murvin: go nodetuts.com    look at Episode 14
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[22:09] vineethkashyap: neat
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[22:10] vineethkashyap: thanks
[22:10] Murvin: np.  tehre are other tools that may be useful for u too.. :)
[22:11] vineethkashyap: murvin: i just remembered, i tried to install node-inspector
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[22:11] vineethkashyap: but could not get anything to work
[22:11] vineethkashyap: ie.., if i open a browser
[22:11] KUHRT_: what is the command to install a npm package with dev deps?
[22:11] KUHRT_: is it `npm install app -d`?
[22:11] vineethkashyap: with the 
[22:11] KUHRT_: doesn't seem to be working
[22:11] vineethkashyap: http://127.0.0.1:8080/debug?port=5858
[22:12] vineethkashyap: it says there is nothing there
[22:12] Murvin: use Chrom
[22:12] Murvin: use Chrome.
[22:12] vineethkashyap: yes
[22:12] vineethkashyap: i tried chrom, safari
[22:12] vineethkashyap: neither worked
[22:12] Murvin: hmm u don't have to do this  debug?port-=5858
[22:12] Murvin: just do 127.0.0.1:8080
[22:12] vineethkashyap: oh, let me try that
[22:13] Murvin: and make sure u run the server:   node  --debug-brk  mynode..js
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[22:15] Murvin: when you run with --debug-brk,  the browser (:8080)  will be blocked at the first line.   so, you can set the break point.
[22:16] vineethkashyap: oh ok
[22:16] justinw312: I'm working on a toy project which among other things will involve a moderate sized key/value store of strings. I want very fast access to the data, so I want to store it in process. I also want this to run well on VPS/Cloud hosting, so memory footprint is an issue.
[22:16] vineethkashyap: so need to add debugger; statements?
[22:16] justinw312: Do you think it makes sense to gzip/unzip data on the fly?
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[22:16] justinw312: I'm wondering about time to unzip from memory vs cost of disk storage
[22:17] Murvin: no statement is needed in your code
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[22:17] vineethkashyap: ok, so these are the 2 things i need to do? :
[22:17] Murvin: the interface is just like FireBug.  you will know how to use it right after  the :8080 page is loaded.  trust me.. very easy. :)
[22:17] Murvin: yes
[22:17] vineethkashyap: 1. node inspector,.js
[22:18] vineethkashyap: and 2. node --debug-brk file-i-want-to-debug.js?
[22:18] Murvin: yes.. step 1)   node-inspector&
[22:18] justinw312: Obviously written language is very very compressible 
[22:18] Murvin: step 2)  node --debug-brk  whatever-server.js
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[22:18] Murvin: step 3)  go to chrome:   yourIP:8080
[22:18] mscdex: woohoo! we have a version of v8 with built-in harmony proxy support now!
[22:18] mscdex: :-D
[22:19] Tobsn: does anyone know of a mysql server protocol implementation
[22:19] mscdex: Tobsn: yeah, the one in C
[22:19] mscdex: ;)
[22:19] Tobsn: besides the one in C ;)
[22:19] Murvin: step 4) run the page that serve by your wahtever-server.js   e.g.   myIP:3000/
[22:19] Tobsn: i want a mysql server in node.js
[22:19] bradleymeck_: Tobsn nodemysql by felixge?
[22:19] Tobsn: server
[22:19] mscdex: Tobsn: nah, because mysql is a beast
[22:19] Tobsn: not client
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[22:19] Tobsn: damnit
[22:19] bradleymeck_: the protocol is borked
[22:19] Tobsn: we're gonna buy some closed source shit
[22:19] vineethkashyap: murvin: oh i see what the problem is
[22:20] Tobsn: and it only supports fucking mysql
[22:20] Tobsn: i want to write a mysql query to mongodb wrapper
[22:20] Tobsn: :P
[22:20] vineethkashyap: i am using node.js to run some javascript file
[22:20] vineethkashyap: not a server
[22:20] mscdex: so why not use mysql then?
[22:20] vineethkashyap: its a static analysis engine
[22:20] Tobsn: erm
[22:20] Tobsn: mysql SUCKS.
[22:20] Tobsn: and we will put way too much traffic on it
[22:20] vineethkashyap: written in javascript 
[22:20] mscdex: riiiiight
[22:20] vineethkashyap: that i am trying to debug
[22:20] Murvin: oh.. you serve assets by node.js? 
[22:20] Tobsn: mscdex, yeah right trust me
[22:20] Murvin: lol.  then use firebug. :)
[22:21] Tobsn: im talking 12k impressions a second in avg.
[22:21] vineethkashyap: no, this is a javascript file
[22:21] Tobsn: and im not gonna run a software over mysql doing a ton of queries every single request
[22:21] vineethkashyap: that does analysis on javascript
[22:21] Tobsn: its building a wrapper and using mongodb or buying 20 mysql servers and trying to get them together with NDB
[22:21] vineethkashyap: since node.js can run any javascript file
[22:21] Tobsn: and im not happy about that
[22:21] vineethkashyap: i can run this program too
[22:22] vineethkashyap: i cant run the program in the browser
[22:22] Murvin: oh.. command line only?
[22:22] vineethkashyap: yes
[22:22] vineethkashyap: the debugger in node is pretty decent
[22:22] Murvin: then, it may not work.. because node inspector .. i think is for server that listen to port.    
[22:22] RickardL: Tobsn: http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/SQL+to+Mongo+Mapping+Chart
[22:22] Murvin: :)
[22:22] vineethkashyap: but it says print command does not work
[22:22] Tobsn: lol
[22:22] vineethkashyap: !!
[22:23] Murvin: hmm
[22:23] Tobsn: RickardL, server protocol
[22:23] Tobsn: not sql comparison
[22:23] vineethkashyap: so i can see the call stack trace
[22:23] vineethkashyap: and step into things
[22:23] RickardL: I see
[22:23] vineethkashyap: but not inspect anything
[22:23] vineethkashyap: so i need to keep stopping, putin console.log's on what i need to inspect
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[22:23] vineethkashyap: which is very painful
[22:23] Tobsn: i need a) a server protocol parser b) a query parser c) query builder from sql to mongodb
[22:23] Murvin: i eee
[22:24] Tobsn: OR i'll go to softlayer and buy 20 servers
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[22:25] vineethkashyap: murvin: any pointers whom shud i point this question to, about default debuggers?
[22:25] frankie-spankie: Hi guys
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[22:26] RickardL: nice nickname
[22:27] Murvin: I'm sure someone here will have debugger experience. :)
[22:27] frankie-spankie: Question: What is the state of the art on NODEJS mobile security framework libraries?
[22:27] mscdex: node-mobilesecurityframework
[22:27] frankie-spankie: really?
[22:27] mscdex: no :)
[22:28] frankie-spankie: that was like "yo, I wanna pimp my car"
[22:28] frankie-spankie: "easy node-pimpmycarlibrary"
[22:28] frankie-spankie: JAJAJAJAJJA
[22:28] mscdex: well, except i bet node-pimpmycarlibrary has probably already been done by Marak
[22:28] mscdex: ;-)
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[22:29] frankie-spankie: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[22:30] frankie-spankie: some client told me "so this nodejs of yours is fast? how about a PoC of a security framework for mobiles"
[22:31] frankie-spankie: and this would be a goood oidea
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[22:32] baudehlo: tjholowaychuk: ping
[22:32] tjholowaychuk: yo
[22:33] baudehlo: in cluster is there a way for a worker to tell the master to quit (and thus everything quit)?
[22:33] tjholowaychuk: you could just use process.kill() on the pgid
[22:33] tjholowaychuk: not sure if node has process.pgid
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[22:34] tjholowaychuk: doesn't look like it, but I think I set an env var with master's pid
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[22:37] baudehlo: ah cool - CLUSTER_MASTER_PID
[22:37] baudehlo: should work.
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[22:40] Qbix2: v8> !{}
[22:40] v8bot: Qbix2: false
[22:40] Qbix2: v8: !{}
[22:40] v8bot: Qbix2: false
[22:40] Qbix2: a
[22:40] Nexxy: lol...
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[22:44] level09: what are the best ways to print an object in node ?
[22:44] level09: is there anything better than console.log ?
[22:44] level09: sys.inspect doesn't seem to work 
[22:44] vineethkashyap: QUESTION: has anyone used the debugger that comes along with node
[22:44] kersny: level09: console.dir
[22:44] level09: thanks
[22:44] vineethkashyap: node debug file-to-debug.js
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[22:45] level09: is there a way to nicely format that json object ? sometimes it is too long its so hard to track the properties
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[22:46] level09: is it even a valid json string ?
[22:46] xerox: google json formatter
[22:46] xerox: there's a nice serv but I don't remember the url
[22:46] xerox: it dor both
[22:46] level09: yes tried many, but they seem to have a problem
[22:46] level09: with the quotations etc.. 
[22:46] level09: most the time it says invalid josn
[22:46] level09: *json
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[22:47] level09: okay anyway, just  making sure I'm not missing anything :D
[22:47] xerox: make valid json :)
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[22:47] hornairs: vineethkashyap whats your question?
[22:47] level09: xerox: how ? this is output from node server 
[22:47] vineethkashyap: hornairs: when i am in the debug
[22:47] vineethkashyap: everycommand except print works
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[22:48] vineethkashyap: for example, next, step etc work
[22:48] vineethkashyap: just print 
[22:48] vineethkashyap: says print [expression]
[22:48] vineethkashyap: but print x
[22:48] vineethkashyap: or even print 2+2 says
[22:48] vineethkashyap: print 2+2 is not a known command
[22:48] vineethkashyap: any idea why?
[22:49] xerox: use JSON.stringify?
[22:49] xerox: level09
[22:49] level09: aha
[22:49] level09: good idea
[22:49] level09: thanks 
[22:49] hornairs: vineethkashyap weird! what node version?
[22:49] xerox: no problem
[22:50] xerox: it is part of node
[22:50] level09: JSON.stringify(util.inspect(var));
[22:50] vineethkashyap: v0.5.0-pre
[22:50] vineethkashyap: hornairs
[22:51] hornairs: vineethkashyap your program is running already right?
[22:51] vineethkashyap: yes
[22:51] vineethkashyap: i am able to do next
[22:51] vineethkashyap: and list
[22:51] vineethkashyap: etc
[22:51] hornairs: i have no idea what the issue is, sorry
[22:51] vineethkashyap: and step through the program
[22:51] Tobsn: mscdex, plan B decompile source.
[22:51] level09: xerox: its funny I came across this post http://markhansen.co.nz/inspecting-with-json-stringify/
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[22:52] vineethkashyap: hornairs which node version did u debug in?
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[22:52] vineethkashyap: i infact tested this on mac and linux
[22:52] vineethkashyap: and the same issue in both cases
[22:52] xerox: level09: that is fine
[22:52] xerox: JSON is JSON nothing you can do about it
[22:53] xerox: you have to make your data jsonifiable
[22:53] xerox: can't serialize fu ciontions for example
[22:53] xerox: sorry I am on a tablet and I am not used to the keyboard
[22:54] level09: no problem
[22:54] level09: i think util.inspect is fine, not sure why it doesn't encapsulate the values within qutations
[22:54] level09: it is just the qutation thing
[22:54] eguest309: hello guys.had a quick question i needed some help with.i am running  a lot of queries from a node.js application.wanted to know well node.js utiltizes memory when its handling a lot of database queries.is it efficient in the handling of memory(closing resultset,connections etc..) provided that your queries are well written 
[22:55] xerox: level09 but if you need to send data as json you will have to make compatible datw
[22:55] level09: yeah sure
[22:55] eguest309: i do a lot of db interactions in my app and i am getting a fatal error: memory error 
[22:55] hornairs: 0.4.8 works fine for me vineethkashyap
[22:55] bnoordhuis: vineethkashyap: already looking into it
[22:55] hornairs: have you tried node inspector?
[22:56] bradleymeck_: eguest309, that is a very hard to answer question depending on your db (is the logic in db or in memory), are you throttling/cleaning up, are you keeping connections open rather than opening them constantly
[22:56] vineethkashyap: i want to debug a javascript program
[22:56] vineethkashyap: standalone
[22:56] vineethkashyap: bnoordhuis: thanks!
[22:56] bradleymeck_: eguest309 in all likelyhood you have a memory leak somewhere
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[22:58] eguest309: i am keepin db connections open in the node.js application.i  have one client open  which runs several queries sometimes concurretnly.i dont clean up.doont know how to do that with node js 
[22:59] eguest309: @ bradleymeck.what is the best way to test for memory leaks in node,js applications?
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[22:59] SubStack: isaacs: you coming to beerjs in sf?
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[22:59] bradleymeck_: there are no automated detection tools but v8profile will help /digs up link
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[23:00] AvianFlu: SubStack: where is that at again?
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[23:00] level09: is there a realtime web analytics written in nodejs ? 
[23:00] level09: even if its a basic one
[23:00] bradleymeck_: eguest : http://code.google.com/p/v8/wiki/V8Profiler , basically if you are appending to arrays / buffering a ton those are the most likely areas
[23:00] aperiodic: hi all, i'm having trouble building node from the head of the github repo
[23:00] bradleymeck_: level09 hummingbird
[23:00] bradleymeck_: aperiodic err message?
[23:01] AvianFlu: aperiodic: stay away from v0.5.x, it's non-stable
[23:01] SubStack: AvianFlu: https://twitter.com/#!/mikeal/status/86158717418094593
[23:01] level09: 
ACTION checking

[23:01] AvianFlu: thanks substack
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[23:02] aperiodic: AvianFlu: ah, didn't realize that. thanks :)
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[23:02] joeyjoe: is there a IRC channel or forum where libuv developers hang out?
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[23:02] eguest309: @ bradleymeck.okay. i am using the process.memoryUsage() function and testing to see memory usage b4 and affter specfic opreations .maybe that may give me some answers
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[23:03] AvianFlu: aperiodic: by far the #1 most common support issue, v0.4.9 is latest stable, I think it just came out today
[23:04] bnoordhuis: vineethkashyap: https://github.com/bnoordhuis/node/commit/d042da0424d27afbc889b0b9c5ba04dfe41b6964
[23:05] vineethkashyap: bnoordhuis: awesome! thanks :)
[23:05] tjholowaychuk: anyone know if v8's awkward error messages are intentional?
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[23:05] tjholowaychuk: ex:
[23:05] tjholowaychuk: > 'foo' instanceof 'bar'
[23:05] tjholowaychuk: TypeError: Expecting a function in instanceof check, but got foo
[23:05] tjholowaychuk: few others as well
[23:06] joeyjoe: yeah, they're intentional
[23:06] tjholowaychuk: weird
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[23:07] pjacobs: tjholowaychuk, if you have html you're trying to display, is there a way to tell jade/express to do that. I'm getting it converted to special chars
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[23:08] pjacobs: maybe that wasn't well put. I'm passing data.story to a jade template, and it's showing up with special chars. Any way around that?
[23:08] tjholowaychuk: != for jade
[23:08] tjholowaychuk: is the same as = but doesn't escape
[23:10] vineethkashyap: bnoordhuis: how can i get this fix?
[23:10] vineethkashyap: i just changed the _debugger.js file in my local computer
[23:10] igl: <3 jade && stylus
[23:10] vineethkashyap: do i need to rebuild something?
[23:11] pjacobs: tjholowaychuk, thanks
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[23:14] catphive: how hard is it to write node.js extensions?
[23:14] catphive: I want to wrap a library that does RTP
[23:14] AvianFlu: catphive: how much do you know about v8 and about templates in C++
[23:15] catphive: I've done the v8 tutorial, and I know c++ and templates pretty well
[23:15] AvianFlu: then you should be cool
[23:15] vineethkashyap: bnoordhuis: rebuilding it worked :)
[23:15] catphive: I was more worried about how to plug into libev, and have callbacks when I get a response on the network
[23:15] catphive: that kind of thing
[23:16] parlu: I'm looking for a node dev (preferably with Ruby experience) to help me finish up a small project: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cpg/2469673281.html
[23:16] parlu: If anyone has a couple hours free (or knows someone who does), I'd really appreciate it.
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[23:17] aperiodic: //
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[23:22] mikeycgto: for some reason, i am calling process.exit() but its not actually exiting 
[23:22] level09: is node inspector compatible with a mac ?
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[23:22] mikeycgto: i wrote some code to drop privs if my app is run as root (after it binds to port 80)
[23:22] mikeycgto: basically, if no uid is supplied to setuid as, it calls process.exit(1)
[23:23] mikeycgto: but it doesnt actually exit (it does however, close the network connections, which is good and sort of the point of my code)
[23:23] mikeycgto: any ideas?
[23:23] dall: someone use express?
[23:23] dall: i wrote a simple function for the logger....
[23:24] dall: i don't understand why it write the logs on the console
[23:24] dall: �_�
[23:24] Yoole: same question here: is node inspector compatible with the mac?
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[23:24] dall: http://pastebin.com/45fUh2b3   i call it with: app.use(mw.logger("server.log")
[23:24] eguest309: what is the best way to do execute multiple queries in node-mysql   ? is it to connect,execute queries and disconnect.or to create one client which does all queries .what are the pros and cons of both options ?
[23:25] bradleymeck_: yoole node-inspector works on any c++ module compat environment (unixlike systems)
[23:26] vineethkashyap: bnoordhuis: printing a variable now prints a number of things with it
[23:26] bnoordhuis: vineethkashyap: ?
[23:26] vineethkashyap: like, the handle, 
[23:26] Yoole: thanks bradleymeck
[23:26] vineethkashyap: tyoe
[23:26] bnoordhuis: what version of node?
[23:26] vineethkashyap: value
[23:26] vineethkashyap: text
[23:26] vineethkashyap: the latest
[23:26] bnoordhuis: 0.4.9 or master?
[23:26] vineethkashyap: plus the change u suggested
[23:26] vineethkashyap: master
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[23:27] bnoordhuis: hmm, weird
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[23:27] bnoordhuis: on what os are you?
[23:27] vineethkashyap: node --version says v0.5.0-pre
[23:27] vineethkashyap: mac
[23:27] bnoordhuis: i'm on linux
[23:27] bnoordhuis: shouldn't make a difference though
[23:27] bnoordhuis: strange
[23:27] vineethkashyap: yeah, shudnt
[23:28] vineethkashyap: checked v0.49 on ubuntu
[23:28] bnoordhuis: hmm, let me try a couple of things
[23:28] vineethkashyap: with ur fix
[23:28] vineethkashyap: did u try it on a simple program
[23:28] vineethkashyap: like
[23:28] vineethkashyap: var x = 1;
[23:28] vineethkashyap: debugger;
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[23:28] vineethkashyap: x = x+1;
[23:28] vineethkashyap: when you run and print x
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[23:29] vineethkashyap: oh wait
[23:29] vineethkashyap: it could be a mac bug
[23:29] bnoordhuis: vineethkashyap: yes? because it works fine here
[23:29] bnoordhuis: but what could be causing it?
[23:30] vineethkashyap: hmmm, actually
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[23:30] vineethkashyap: it works fine for a simple program 
[23:30] vineethkashyap: i am trying to see for what kind of objects it displays that extra information
[23:31] vineethkashyap: or it could be that those extra information are actually attached
[23:32] vineethkashyap: somewhere else
[23:32] vineethkashyap: cool, that is the bug i was trying to find!
[23:32] vineethkashyap: sorry about that, its not a print bug
[23:32] vineethkashyap: :)
[23:32] bnoordhuis: vineethkashyap: hah :)
[23:32] vineethkashyap: neat, +1 for node debug :)
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[23:41] mscdex: catphive: you can send rtp audio from js-land easily
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