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[06:10] kohai: @kadirpekel: lazy man chat via herodot :) http://t.co/NSACcMa #nodejs (link: https://github.com/coffeemate/herodot/tree/master/examples/lazymanschat)
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[06:16] kohai: @prabier: “@sebmade: Node.js: Step by Step | Nettuts+ http://t.co/Va9OhBl” great link. Node.js is getting high traction here, in the silicon valley. (link: http://net.tutsplus.com/sessions/node-js-step-by-step/)
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[06:31] kohai: @tariquesani: Node.Js Using Mustache.Js For Templating http://zite.to/kqhUOV (link: http://blogs.lessthandot.com/index.php/WebDev/UIDevelopment/Javascript/node-js-using-mustache-js)
[06:36] kohai: @krzychukula: Node.js Tutorial: Blog http://ff.im/-FMAPo (link: http://krzychukula.blogspot.com/2011/06/nodejs-tutorial-blog.html)
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[07:03] idefine: is it possible to flush a response to the client (using expressjs)
[07:07] kohai: @dezmozz: it takes 22 minutes and 37.141 seconds to build #nodejs on d #amazon #ec2 32bit linux free instance
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[07:10] kuya: hi, does anyone use vows? im trying to use the async returning an event emitter stuff but i cant get it to work. im returning an EventEmitter like in the examples and i can see its getting run properly but vows complains. http://dpaste.com/554451/
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[07:14] kuya: huh, copying the exact example into my tests works... why doesnt mine :/
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[07:31] kohai: @iamedu: @azc0t Si quieres un interprete de js te recomiendo node.js es la onda
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[07:31] framlin: kuya: are you sure, that "result" is part of context ... because f is a callback and this might be context therefor
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[07:33] dall: hi
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[07:34] kohai: @mickaelmorier: WebSocket, Node.js + Redis en démo chez Instagram http://t.co/f7oF2o1 (link: http://demo.instagram.com/)
[07:35] kohai: @dezmozz: @vamsee no clue abt it sir..am happy its running :D http://122.248.247.36/ my hello world on #nodejs #amazon #ec2 :)
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[07:37] [AD]Turbo: hi there
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[07:38] kuya: framlin: yea its slightly odd looking but its correct - besides i can see that success is emitted 
[07:40] kohai: @BACuTPOH: Немного о C/C++ модулях к node.js http://t.co/Pu7kfvj (часть первая, для домохозяек). (link: http://dixel.blogspot.com/2011/06/nodejs-cc.html)
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[07:43] kuya: framlin: see the output at the end of this one - its definatly firing everything correctly http://dpaste.com/554463/
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[07:44] kuya: i bet i know the problem...
[07:44] kuya: its probably resolving *too* quickly!
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[07:45] kuya: yup...
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[07:49] pigmej: what's the recommended documentation engine for node?
[07:51] kohai: @obazoud: add documentation to statusdashboard #nodejs application. http://t.co/Ux7GDrN (link: https://github.com/obazoud/statusdashboard)
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[07:56] kohai: @halfageekinfo: node.js Community Event March 1, 2011 - Cloud Analytics Screencast http://is.gd/ygqFIN #javascript (link: http://javascript.halfageek.info/2011/06/09/node-js-community-event-march-1-2011-cloud-analytics-screencast-2/)
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[08:08] kohai: @stebrennan: Node.js binaries for Windows. Very handy if you need that kind of thing :) http://t.co/udfguow (link: http://node-js.prcn.co.cc/#.TfhoWZNxyL8;twitter)
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[08:20] kohai: @xenyou: Nodeは解析も楽しい。今あるスキルを総動員してなお学ぶことがある。#nodejs
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[08:29] jhurliman: <meta property="og:description" content="#{video.description}">
[08:29] jhurliman: sigh
[08:29] kohai: @AlbanSeurat: my next research - Comparing clojure and node.js for speed http://bit.ly/lV0GJw (link: http://www.dzone.com/links/rss/comparing_clojure_and_nodejs_for_speed.html)
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[08:34] kohai: @neiltak: Finally got a chance to play with node.js in a bit more detail. Inspired some nice ideas.
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[08:40] kohai: @JonnyHeavey: Researching node.js - interesting stuff
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[08:48] rush_: Hi I am trying to install nodejs on Mac OS Tiger (10.4.11)... I have tried to compile from source and using ports. It has failed in both. Any suggestions?
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[08:49] kohai: @marcwan: node.js shockingly cool, but still quite immature. Here's to hoping they don't ufck it up.
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[08:52] rush_: hello?
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[08:53] tuhoojabotti: Hey
[08:53] tuhoojabotti: Suggestion: Use linux. :)
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[08:54] aurynn: buy a Mac can also be a decent suggestion
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[08:54] tuhoojabotti: aurynn: He already has one?
[08:54] kohai: @GMouron: @MathildeLemee : Je serai assez interesse par un "feedback" sur ton experience avec #nodejs (ressources/docs utilisees en particulier)
[08:54] aurynn: tuhoojabotti, hm, that's less useful then
[08:54] tuhoojabotti: Indeed
[08:54] `3rdEden: rush_ you want us to guess what errors you had?
[08:55] `3rdEden: and supply you with random answers or can you post the output? :D
[08:55] tuhoojabotti: `3rdEden: Mac errors: "iSteve denies."
[08:55] AAA_awright: Who broke Socket.io within the last week
[08:55] `3rdEden: a mac does not error
[08:55] AAA_awright: It's like someone rebased upstream and pushed
[08:55] `3rdEden: 
ACTION raises hand

[08:55] AAA_awright: And then deleted the submodules
[08:55] `3rdEden: AAA_awright the current master of socket.io is the preview of Socket.IO 0.7
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[08:56] kohai: @tastapod: Oh wow. #Coffeescript and #Nodejs. Oh wow.
[08:56] rush_: `3rdEden: thanks for the reply! _backtrace _backtrace_symbols not found
[08:56] `3rdEden: the whole log
[08:56] tuhoojabotti: rush_: Suggestion: install backtrace and backtrace_symbols
[08:56] `3rdEden: not just a snippet of of it..
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[08:56] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: I can't find anything in the readme about how to use it, what about the client?
[08:56] tuhoojabotti: rush_: pastebin thank you.
[08:56] tuhoojabotti: for the log.
[08:56] `3rdEden: AAA_awright it's also in github master
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[08:59] rush_: tuhoojabotti: thanks for the tip.. let me try
[09:00] tuhoojabotti: rush_: I have found out that doing what the output tells me to do tends to solve problems.
[09:00] kohai: @david_harvey: @tastapod Not drunk the Coffee yet ... too much excitement!  #Coffeescript #Nodejs
[09:01] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: It doesn't contain the socket.io-client submodule, and so checking that out gives me the error SyntaxError: Unexpected token var
[09:01] AAA_awright: socket.io-client/lib/client-ws.js:81 which doesn't make any sense that's supposed to be for the browser...?
[09:02] `3rdEden: AAA_awright it's actually in the package.json
[09:02] `3rdEden: https://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO-node/blob/master/package.json#L17
[09:02] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: What about it?
[09:02] `3rdEden: or are you talking about something else
[09:02] `3rdEden: im confused
[09:03] AAA_awright: npm shows the repository for that as git: git://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO.git anyways
[09:03] `3rdEden: yes
[09:03] `3rdEden: thats probably good
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[09:03] `3rdEden: so you probably want to do a npm install .
[09:04] AAA_awright: I don't use npm
[09:04] `3rdEden: that you have to create the node_modules folder your self
[09:04] `3rdEden: and place the socket.io-client in there
[09:05] AAA_awright: I've done that, and I get the aforementioned error
[09:05] AAA_awright: wait hm, double checking the package I checked out
[09:05] AAA_awright: *repository
[09:06] rush_: tuhoojabotti: sure -- it seems that this is due to an undocumented glibc feature that is present in linux and not on bsd... 
[09:06] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: What repository do I need for socket.io-client /
[09:06] AAA_awright: ?
[09:06] `3rdEden: https://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO
[09:07] tuhoojabotti: rush_: Ah, linux<3
[09:07] `3rdEden: 0.7 is in the master
[09:07] rush_: tuhoojabotti: that would mean that nodejs will not compile on bsd systems?
[09:07] tuhoojabotti: hmm
[09:07] tuhoojabotti: wasn't it mac, now it's bsd?
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[09:07] AAA_awright: In https://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO ?
[09:07] AAA_awright: I can't find it
[09:08] aurynn: BSMac
[09:08] AAA_awright: Wait gm
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[09:08] AAA_awright: Oh I see, the paths changed
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[09:08] tuhoojabotti: rush_: http://superuser.com/questions/262385/getting-node-js-0-4-2-to-build-install-on-freebsd-8-2-amd64 perhaps this helps?
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[09:13] kohai: @ajlopez: Daily post: Links, News, Resources: Node.js (1) (English) http://bit.ly/kzzhpG (link: http://ajlopez.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/links-news-resources-node-js-1/)
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[09:14] rush_: tuhoojabotti: mm..thanks for your help... seems this is beyond me. my bad luck
[09:14] shafire: hi
[09:14] shafire: why i can't get it run async? :( --> http://pastie.org/private/vs7wraefrjfpd1byej5a
[09:15] tuhoojabotti: rush_: It's nice when the script on the front page works. :)
[09:15] rush_: yeah... maybe i should move to linux or get a new mac!
[09:15] tuhoojabotti: linux \o
[09:16] tuhoojabotti: rush_: Or get a real server! :D
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[09:16] aurynn: VMs!
[09:17] rush_: tuhoojabotti: thats an option - :) will have to sacrifice my nice textmate editor :)
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[09:17] rush_: tuhoojabotti: thanks again! have a nice day
[09:18] tuhoojabotti: No!
[09:18] tuhoojabotti: It's raining and I only have a scooter
[09:18] tuhoojabotti: But yeah, np.
[09:19] tuhoojabotti: I have 2 free shells and so on, it's good to be a finn :)
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[09:22] shafire: tuhoojabotti: how is north europe?:)
[09:23] tuhoojabotti: shafire: Nice, you know Finland was the first country to add broadband connection as a national right?
[09:23] tuhoojabotti: ircing from work ♡
[09:24] shafire: but Lithuania was the first, who took the responsibility :-) everywhere in the country free internet :p
[09:25] tuhoojabotti: free as in free beer?
[09:25] tuhoojabotti: :3
[09:26] shafire: sorry
[09:26] shafire: it was estonia :D
[09:26] shafire: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Wifi_accesspoint_in_tartu_estonia.jpg
[09:26] tuhoojabotti: estonia yeah
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[09:26] tuhoojabotti: there's free wifi in OULU!
[09:26] tuhoojabotti: (city in finland ;D)
[09:27] tuhoojabotti: But yeah, internet in Finland sucks, I want to move to Sweden. ;D
[09:27] shafire: "Estonia has the highest level of internet freedom in the world."
[09:27] shafire: :-)
[09:28] shafire: I am from Germany....
[09:28] tuhoojabotti: But south korea is the fastest
[09:28] tuhoojabotti: according to ookla
[09:28] tuhoojabotti: http://www.netindex.com/
[09:28] shafire: estonia has also internet voting
[09:29] tuhoojabotti: We had it for trial, and I think it failed.
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[09:29] tuhoojabotti: finland is 22th on ooklas rating :P
[09:29] tuhoojabotti: germany 15th
[09:29] tuhoojabotti: on download
[09:29] shafire: so what? :D
[09:30] shafire: never mind
[09:30] Skola: anyone know of decent iterm2 color schemes?
[09:30] shafire: better slow internet and no censorship
[09:30] tuhoojabotti: shafire: Idk, I'm just chatting.
[09:30] tuhoojabotti: :P
[09:30] tuhoojabotti: If I do my work too fast, I'll get more work!
[09:30] shafire: could you help me in nodejs?
[09:31] shafire: http://pastie.org/private/vs7wraefrjfpd1byej5a
[09:31] shafire: how to get the functions called async? :S
[09:31] shafire: the result is independent from others
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[09:31] kohai: @fishrod: this has proven to be an excellent node.js and express tutorial. It has passed the half asleep and ready for bed test - http://t.co/j85ttSw (link: http://shapeshed.com/journal/creating-a-basic-site-with-node-and-express/)
[09:32] tuhoojabotti: shafire: I didn't get it.
[09:32] tuhoojabotti: :
[09:32] tuhoojabotti: :)*
[09:32] SubStack: shafire: you want the sorts to run on separate processes/threads?
[09:32] shafire: yes!
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[09:32] tuhoojabotti: I don't do such
[09:32] tuhoojabotti: just problematic
[09:33] SubStack: in node you've just got one execution context to play with
[09:33] shafire: no threads?
[09:33] SubStack: but you can spawn processes and get them to talk to each other
[09:33] SubStack: there are threads behind the scenes but you'd have to use c++ to get at them
[09:33] tuhoojabotti: yeah
[09:33] SubStack: or you can use web workers
[09:33] kohai: @usi2011_chronos: @ippontech nous avons hésité entre Netty et #nodejs, finalement on a pris #nodejs pour le #challengeUSI2011
[09:34] tuhoojabotti: better /ignore kohai ALL
[09:34] Skola: : D
[09:34] tuhoojabotti: my regexp failed
[09:34] shafire: SubStack: i will try workers
[09:34] shafire: :)
[09:34] SubStack: https://github.com/pgriess/node-webworker
[09:36] kohai: @b_erb: @bse8128 Bei Erlang geht es um massive Parallelität, Verteilbarkeit und Fehlertoleranz, bei node.js um simples non-blocking I/O.
[09:36] shafire: or this? https://github.com/cramforce/node-worker
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[09:36] shafire: kohai: achso :)
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[09:37] SubStack: shafire: at a glance, node-webworker seems more up-to-date and polished
[09:38] kohai: @b_erb: @bse8128 Was Erlang und node.js verbindet? Ein event-driven Model und derzeit hip zu sein.
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[09:39] NuckingFuts: lol @ npm removing packages forcibly
[09:39] shafire: but then I need to listen on a port SubStack  :(
[09:39] SubStack: hmmm maybe!
[09:39] tuhoojabotti: Nice nick, nick nice
[09:40] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: eh?
[09:40] NuckingFuts: damnit
[09:40] NuckingFuts: npm failed to install :V
[09:40] NuckingFuts: Do I need to sudo this shit?
[09:40] NuckingFuts: :/
[09:40] tuhoojabotti: No
[09:40] tuhoojabotti: I don't think so, I sure don't.
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[09:41] NuckingFuts: UGh
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[09:41] NuckingFuts: Then what dun fucked up?
[09:41] Skola: what error?
[09:42] tuhoojabotti: Yes, our balls are not crystal, neither magical.
[09:42] tuhoojabotti: paste log, thank you.
[09:43] NuckingFuts: npm ERR! error installing npm@1.0.11 Error: EACCES, Permission denied '/usr/local/lib/node_modules'
[09:43] tuhoojabotti: ah
[09:43] NuckingFuts: Says to run as sudo
[09:43] tuhoojabotti: yeah
[09:43] NuckingFuts: Guess I'll try that
[09:43] shafire: http://pastie.org/private/x018kezdqvcoytbcyotwq <-- is this correct english?
[09:43] NuckingFuts: Though I can't really pipe it into sudo
[09:43] tuhoojabotti: I installed node to my home
[09:43] tuhoojabotti: so I don't need to access root stuff.
[09:44] tuhoojabotti: shafire: Yes, but I'd drop the dots
[09:44] tuhoojabotti: instead a space would be nice.
[09:44] tuhoojabotti: like 20 000
[09:44] NuckingFuts: wat
[09:44] tuhoojabotti: also space before the ms
[09:44] tuhoojabotti: :P
[09:44] NuckingFuts: Oh right
[09:44] tuhoojabotti: but that's just me.
[09:44] NuckingFuts: Worldwide, dot means digit separator, huh?
[09:44] NuckingFuts: Not decimal point
[09:45] tuhoojabotti: I don't know, we use decimal ,
[09:45] tuhoojabotti: :3
[09:45] tuhoojabotti: which sucks.
[09:45] shafire: 1.000,00 EUR
[09:45] tuhoojabotti: yeah
[09:45] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: In america, it's $1,000.00
[09:45] tuhoojabotti: but 1000,00 beats that :P
[09:45] tuhoojabotti: or 1000.00
[09:45] tuhoojabotti: but 10000 < 10 000
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[09:45] tuhoojabotti: :P
[09:46] shafire: my mac is sorting numbers, cpu is at 100% :D
[09:46] shafire: lol
[09:46] tuhoojabotti: but whatever.
[09:46] NuckingFuts: shafire: Watch it catch on fire XD
[09:46] shafire: 120mb ram :o
[09:46] tuhoojabotti: food ->
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[09:51] NuckingFuts: Hooray!
[09:51] NuckingFuts: Got NPM updated!
[09:51] NuckingFuts: And got RESTify loaded up in there
[09:52] NuckingFuts: I prefered the old NPM logging though
[09:52] NuckingFuts: I miss the colors
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[09:53] kohai: @Nevajmywh: Interview de Ryan Dahl, cr�ateur de Node.js - Web Tambouille
[09:54] Skola: ./ignore kohai<CR>
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[09:58] kohai: @rickmans: mySQL DBA: Building a realtime Feed with RabbitMQ Node.js AMQP and mySQL http://rickmans.me/WPvhW
[09:58] NuckingFuts: Ewwwww mySQL is for noooooooob
[09:58] NuckingFuts: *s
[09:58] _6502__: hello: url.parse("/foo?x=y").query is "x=y" or {"x":"y"}?
[09:59] _6502__: the documentation is fuzzy about that
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[10:00] NuckingFuts: When in doubt, try it :P that's what I do lol
[10:01] _6502__: just tried and seems "x=y"
[10:01] _6502__: is there a parsing routine for standard query strings?
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[10:01] NuckingFuts: Yessir, it's require('querystring').parse, IIRC
[10:02] NuckingFuts: Don't hold me to that though, I'm not sure on the name >_>
[10:02] _6502__: works, thanks :-)
[10:03] NuckingFuts: Fucking yeah! I can't believe I actually got that right!
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[10:13] NuckingFuts: 
ACTION dives head-first into RESTify

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[10:16] kohai: @rmat0n: @obazoud excellent ton app status dashboard ;-) et bien sûr #nodejs FTW
[10:17] kohai: @rtweed: It was fun presenting on node-mdb last night at #skillsmatter.  Kept bang on time! :-) Met lots of great people.  #nodejs #javascript
[10:18] mendel_: guys, why is https://github.com/indutny/node-spdy not more popular? 
[10:18] tuhoojabotti: BETA
[10:18] mendel_: the concept of multiplexing a http connection is  a great one right? or am I missing something
[10:19] tuhoojabotti: "Require node.js version - at least 0.5.0-pre"
[10:19] tuhoojabotti: there's your problem
[10:19] indutny: mendel_: it currently runs only on 0.5.0-pre branch and with latest openssl library
[10:19] indutny: tuhoojabotti: right
[10:19] tuhoojabotti: 2. build it
[10:19] tuhoojabotti: more problems :D
[10:19] mendel_: ok
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[10:20] kohai: @noodlehaus: @csanz for geeklist, what db/mapper do you use? and please do share your validation code #nodejs
[10:20] indutny: tuhoojabotti: mendel_: so first of all we'll need to wait for 0.5.0 branch (actually for 0.6.0, b/c 0.5.0 will be unstable)
[10:20] tuhoojabotti: Yeah.
[10:20] mendel_: oke, eager to try it out.. will use it on dev for now
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[10:22] kohai: @nicholefoss: Official Node.js Job Board Pops Onto the Web http://t.co/NJZ8x0S (link: http://mashable.com/2011/03/23/node-job-board/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29)
[10:23] kohai: @tlarevo: Node.JS Help Sheet http://feedly.com/k/lk2uxE (link: http://www.quicklycode.com/cheatsheets/node-js-help-sheet?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+quicklycode+%28QuicklyCode+-+Cheatsheets+%26+programming+stuff%29)
[10:23] `3rdEden: node should just bundle the latest open ssl
[10:25] [AD]Turbo: `3rdEden, we want socket.io 0.7 out ;D
[10:25] `3rdEden: 
ACTION goes back to coding

[10:25] `3rdEden: ;D
[10:25] [AD]Turbo: :)
[10:26] `3rdEden: [AD]Turbo iknow iknow :9 but I can't work on it full time ;(
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[10:26] [AD]Turbo: is Guille working on it fulltime?
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[10:26] `3rdEden: I'm full time employed as front-end engineer not as nodejs developer
[10:26] indutny: `3rdEden: yep, I think it should
[10:27] tuhoojabotti: 
ACTION can't code @ work :/

[10:27] `3rdEden: [AD]Turbo guillermo can do what ever he wants, he's self employed
[10:27] `3rdEden: indutny it would speed up the adoption of SPDY
[10:27] tuhoojabotti: `3rdEden: I'm Website administrator summer intern.
[10:27] tuhoojabotti: ;D
[10:27] indutny: 
ACTION 's job is a node.js

[10:27] [AD]Turbo: I see
[10:27] indutny: `3rdEden: it would not just speed up, but will actually bring SPDY to node.js world
[10:28] shafire: now i am ready :)
[10:28] shafire: https://github.com/przytads/sorting-algorithms
[10:28] NuckingFuts: How much publicity do you think I would get if I coded an entire social network on nodejs in a matter of a month?
[10:29] NuckingFuts: And I'm not just talking any social network, I mean an art community like deviantART
[10:29] kohai: @victorkane: Hey Jade! http://j.mp/mncAjM My path of understanding into how #jade template engine is used in #express framework #nodejs (link: http://awebfactory.com.ar/node/473)
[10:29] NuckingFuts: Because I actually have a chance at this point XD
[10:29] tuhoojabotti: NuckingFuts: Why are you asking?
[10:29] `3rdEden: tuhoojabotti /me = jealous
[10:29] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Because that's what I'm doing, I'm just sorta curious hwo people would react XD
[10:30] tuhoojabotti: `3rdEden: I just have to add products and update infos on some webshop D:
[10:30] tuhoojabotti: NuckingFuts: Why?
[10:30] tuhoojabotti: Why would you do that :O
[10:30] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Because NodeJS is fucking great, because deviantART needs replacing, and because we want to launch in time for deviantART to release v8.
[10:30] NuckingFuts: We expect user outrage at v8
[10:31] NuckingFuts: So we plan to milk it.
[10:31] NuckingFuts: V8 is predicted to launch in Auguest
[10:31] tuhoojabotti: Why deviant art needs replacing? :3
[10:31] NuckingFuts: *August
[10:31] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Because it's badly managed, falling apart, and social networks cosntantly need a turnover.
[10:32] NuckingFuts: deviantART has lasted 11 years now
[10:32] tuhoojabotti: Well I haven't used it so yeah, I wouldn't know.
[10:32] NuckingFuts: Their chat client?  4,233 lines of JavaScript.
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[10:32] `3rdEden: indutny but i doubt ryah wants that in the core
[10:32] tuhoojabotti: ;DD;
[10:32] NuckingFuts: No objects
[10:32] NuckingFuts: ALL flat functions on the window
[10:32] tuhoojabotti: Okay, I get it.
[10:32] indutny: `3rdEden: one sec, wait for nodejs-dev email
[10:33] NuckingFuts: with shit like "dAmn_getBorderBottomWidth"
[10:33] NuckingFuts: But there were no other border functions.
[10:33] tuhoojabotti: jquery<3
[10:33] NuckingFuts: JUST the bottom.
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[10:33] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: seriously.
[10:33] `3rdEden: indutny +10!
[10:33] tuhoojabotti: what
[10:33] NuckingFuts: This chat client is from... 2004?
[10:33] tuhoojabotti: Yeah, I got your point, man!
[10:33] NuckingFuts: lol
[10:33] tuhoojabotti: Just get to work!
[10:33] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: lol I am :P
[10:34] tuhoojabotti: So am i
[10:34] NuckingFuts: I've gotta wait on my peeps to design and code the site before I can implement my ExpressJS server
[10:34] tuhoojabotti: I wrote my own server *coolface*
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[10:35] NuckingFuts: lol
[10:35] monokrome: Using jade, can I provide a variable as an object's ID?
[10:35] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: I did once too
[10:35] NuckingFuts: Then I found Express and scrapped it XD
[10:35] monokrome: I need to give an ID to a UL, which is the result of: 'album-' + album.name
[10:35] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Mine used a JSON object to store the pages instead of files
[10:35] tuhoojabotti: NuckingFuts: Mine used json from files, now it uses mysql!
[10:36] NuckingFuts: it was nested objects to emulate folder structures
[10:36] tuhoojabotti: lols
[10:36] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Fuck MySQL
[10:36] tuhoojabotti: :P
[10:36] NuckingFuts: I use MONGO!
[10:36] NuckingFuts: Mongo 4 life
[10:36] monokrome: :(
[10:36] tuhoojabotti: It seemed hard
[10:36] monokrome: Riak & PostgreSQL :D
[10:36] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: It's really easy, once you get used to the lack of a UI
[10:36] tuhoojabotti: anyways
[10:36] NuckingFuts: It's really natural in JS
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[10:36] tuhoojabotti: Does express support HTTP code 418?
[10:36] NuckingFuts: Because it's all based on BSON
[10:36] tuhoojabotti: :3
[10:37] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Wuzzat?  I'm a Teapot?
[10:37] tuhoojabotti: http://dev.tuhoojabotti.com/api/easter Indeed½
[10:37] tuhoojabotti: !*
[10:37] tuhoojabotti: (webkit/ff5)
[10:37] indutny: `3rdEden: catch it ;)
[10:37] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabottiDamn, I'm good tonight XD
[10:37] NuckingFuts: I actually got it right, and I was just kidding LMAO
[10:38] tuhoojabotti: lol it lags on FF5
[10:38] kohai: @csanz: super mini/tiny + simple short code generator #nodejs http://post.ly/2DRPm (link: http://csanz.posterous.com/super-minitiny-simple-short-code-generator-no)
[10:39] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: wow.  Is that 100% CSS?
[10:39] `3rdEden: indutny *refresh refresh refresh*
[10:39] NuckingFuts: For the text animation, that is
[10:39] indutny: everyone, please vote here if you are indifferent to NPN and SPDY  in node.js : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nodejs-dev/TON-JVxm6Iw
[10:39] monokrome: I tried this: ul#music-album-{album.name}
[10:39] tuhoojabotti: NuckingFuts: Yes ofc.
[10:39] monokrome: but it doesn't parse the album.name part
[10:40] NuckingFuts: indutny: What're those?
[10:40] tuhoojabotti: wuts?
[10:40] NuckingFuts: Oh right SPEEDY
[10:40] indutny: NuckingFuts: yes
[10:40] tuhoojabotti: monokrome: That's bad css.
[10:40] monokrome: tuhoojabotti: That's because it's not CSS. Maybe you missed my question.
[10:41] AAA_awright: socket.send({ hello: 'world' }); completely fails for me in socket.io master
[10:41] monokrome: tuhoojabotti: I'm trying to use a variable inside of an element's ID in Jade
[10:41] AAA_awright: I'm receiving it as '[object Object]'
[10:41] AAA_awright: A string.
[10:41] kohai: @iblamefish: So far today, I've installed node.js 3 times.
[10:41] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: lolwat of course it is
[10:41] `3rdEden: AAA_awright duh
[10:42] `3rdEden: AAA_awright socket.json.send
[10:42] `3rdEden: ;D
[10:42] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: That's pulled directly from the readme
[10:42] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: But thanks for the tip
[10:42] NuckingFuts: indutny: I am AGAINST SPDY in general.
[10:42] `3rdEden: I don't see it AAA_awright
[10:42] NuckingFuts: Because I feel that it is silly to replace HTTP at this point.
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[10:42] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: https://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO-node under "How to use"
[10:42] NuckingFuts: We should wait a few more years and build a brand-new protocol.
[10:43] NuckingFuts: 
ACTION shrugs

[10:43] `3rdEden: oooh the server AAA_awright i was looking at the client
[10:43] monokrome: I know that I can use this: ul(id='music-album-'+album.name)
[10:43] `3rdEden: NuckingFuts it's not a replacement
[10:43] monokrome: But I'd rather use the # syntax if applicable
[10:43] `3rdEden: it's an extension
[10:43] `3rdEden: and it can speed your browsing experiance with more 50%
[10:43] indutny: NuckingFuts: hm... while SPDY itself can have some cons, having NPN inside node.js will be quite interesting for implementing your own protocols
[10:43] AAA_awright: Well it should be the same on both sides right?
[10:43] AAA_awright: At least it _was_
[10:43] NuckingFuts: `3rdEden: My point exactly
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[10:43] NuckingFuts: It isn't needed yet
[10:44] NuckingFuts: We haven't hit the wall yet
[10:44] `3rdEden: yes it is
[10:44] `3rdEden: yes we have
[10:44] NuckingFuts: Not really
[10:44] tuhoojabotti: PISTONS!
[10:44] tuhoojabotti: (Sorry, that's Minecraft)
[10:44] `3rdEden: :D
[10:44] NuckingFuts: We need a better protocol
[10:44] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: They didn't release that yet though :V
[10:44] `3rdEden: invent one
[10:44] `3rdEden: but untill than
[10:44] tuhoojabotti: NuckingFuts: video of wip
[10:44] `3rdEden: spdy will do
[10:44] NuckingFuts: `3rdEden: meh, too lazy.  I'll let Google handle that.
[10:45] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: ooooooh linky?
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[10:45] tuhoojabotti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZJr86d2IUo
[10:45] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Thanks :D
[10:45] tuhoojabotti: join #minecraft on IRCNet :P
[10:46] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: Oh god that looks soooo useful
[10:47] tuhoojabotti: indee
[10:47] tuhoojabotti: d
[10:47] tuhoojabotti: look at the castle door system!
[10:47] tuhoojabotti: and join #minecraft @IRCNet :D
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[10:47] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: I'm only am inute in still but holy shit
[10:47] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Were you the one talking about the DeviantArt chat? Who was that?
[10:47] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Ayup
[10:47] NuckingFuts: And deviantART is still going bye-bye
[10:48] NuckingFuts: If I succeed, which I hope I do :P
[10:48] AAA_awright: With what, exactly?
[10:48] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: So I'
[10:48] AAA_awright: bah
[10:48] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: I call it "fakooda"
[10:48] NuckingFuts: An art site with a state-of-the-art suggestion algorithm
[10:48] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: So I'm writing a Node.js IRC client, that you can access at any time with your web browser, it stays connected
[10:48] NuckingFuts: And a tagging system that doesn't suck ass
[10:49] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: You're doing a DA clone?
[10:49] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Not clone
[10:49] NuckingFuts: Not at all
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[10:49] AAA_awright: Well of course... When you start with a goal of cloning crap, you have no where else to go
[10:49] NuckingFuts: More an improvement.  Looking at dA and saying "what went wrong"
[10:50] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: How about adding some semantics to it, say, with RDF?
[10:50] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: HOLY SHIT.  I shat myself at the ending.
[10:50] tuhoojabotti: Good for you!
[10:50] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Might do Semantic HTML :S
[10:50] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: well, actually
[10:50] NuckingFuts: Doesn't matter much on the AJAX'ed pages
[10:51] tuhoojabotti: My site is ajaxed
[10:51] tuhoojabotti: also works 100% with js off
[10:51] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Well, it does
[10:51] tuhoojabotti: http://dev.tuhoojabotti.com/index/#hello-world ;)
[10:51] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: I'm building it on NodeJS with RESTify for the API, jQuery-based frontend, and ExpressJS for static pages
[10:51] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Contemplate storing data as RDF
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[10:51] AAA_awright: It sounds really well suited for that application
[10:52] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: What's RDF?
[10:52] AAA_awright: If you have lots of relationships to make
[10:52] tuhoojabotti: Rich Data Format!
[10:52] AAA_awright: Ha no
[10:52] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Data storage is gonna be in MongodDB
[10:52] tuhoojabotti: it's like RTF right?
[10:52] tuhoojabotti: :P
[10:52] AAA_awright: Resource Description Framework
[10:52] tuhoojabotti: Ok.
[10:52] AAA_awright: It's a data model that makes statements about resources
[10:52] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Can you toss me an example?
[10:52] AAA_awright: So I can say, http://example.com/art licensed-under public-domain
[10:53] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: And how does this interact with HTML?
[10:53] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: So RDF is the data model, and RDFa is one way of embedding RDF data inside HTML
[10:53] NuckingFuts: ah cool
[10:53] NuckingFuts: Yeah, I'll look into that
[10:53] AAA_awright: See http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-primer/ and
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[10:53] AAA_awright: And this http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
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[10:54] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Actually, start with http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/ that's more relevant to you
[10:54] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Perhaps is there some way to do a meta-tag for it?
[10:54] jamey-uk: What do I have put on line 157 to get saveToDatabase() to actually run? I've just started using prototypes and am trying to get my head around closures, scope etc: http://pastebin.com/usAdKR9A
[10:54] AAA_awright: If I understand, that's what RDFa is
[10:54] tuhoojabotti: yeah
[10:55] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: I was worried you might've meant it was a data storage mechanism.  So I can pull from MongoDB and convert into RDFa?
[10:55] tuhoojabotti: didn't html5 introduce some micro-data format?
[10:55] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Yep
[10:55] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: I'm thinking I'm gonna provide it in every format possible
[10:55] AAA_awright: Microformats are inferior to RDFa, RDFa allows for a wider variety of statements
[10:55] AAA_awright: Microformats is pretty much limited to common things like addresses and telephone numbers and whatnot
[10:55] NuckingFuts: Is there some way to use OAuth and REST?
[10:56] AAA_awright: But they both can be extracted into RDF
[10:56] tuhoojabotti: yeah
[10:56] AAA_awright: For Node.js? Of course
[10:56] NuckingFuts: I'm building on Restify
[10:56] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Have you started on this project at all?
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[10:56] tuhoojabotti: AAA_awright: Didn't microdata allowed to add custom data too?
[10:56] AAA_awright: tuhoojabotti: Maybe it does but I'm not familiar... I just know within the semantic web community, RDFa is king
[10:56] tuhoojabotti: :P
[10:57] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: I've got two other people on this project with me, and they're doing the client design and HTML which I then get to tie in with an API (which I also make)
[10:57] NuckingFuts: We've got mockups
[10:57] NuckingFuts: And we've got research and figured out our data structures for what the API will spit out for most apges
[10:57] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: I would encourage you to look at my CMS project that constructs webpages about RDF resources, http://magnode.org/
[10:57] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Replacing DA is something I've been interested in too
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[10:58] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: RDF will probably end up coming in my first update
[10:58] NuckingFuts: We're gonna be using ExpressJS and doing a basic site for now
[10:58] NuckingFuts: Since we want to launch in 2 months XD
[10:58] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Yeah this isn't going to do all that within 2 months, but I'll follow you
[10:59] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Do you have a mailing list or something?
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[10:59] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: I have a personal twatter, fakooda still doesn't officially exist
[10:59] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Here subscribe to http://groups.google.com/group/magnode to know when I make a stable release
[10:59] NuckingFuts: We've got a host lined up :P
[10:59] NuckingFuts: Call me crazy, but I think it might be possible.  I once programmed a whole site in a day.
[10:59] NuckingFuts: And I had never touched Wordpress before.
[10:59] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Also, think people can spell that name?
[11:00] NuckingFuts: And I hadn't touched PHP in years
[11:00] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: I like to think it's about as good as deviantart :P
[11:00] AAA_awright: Me too, but that doesn't mean there's still room for improvement
[11:00] NuckingFuts: We haven't completely settled on it, it's sorta just a project name with its roots in "Fuck you, dA"
[11:00] NuckingFuts: ;)
[11:00] AAA_awright: HAHAHA
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[11:01] pigmej: any recommended documentation generation tool ?
[11:01] kohai: @Propeople: Node.js Step by Step: Blogging Application - http://bit.ly/kO06V9 #coding #webdevelopment (link: http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/node-js-step-by-step-blogging-application/)
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[11:02] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Yeah lol we sorta got pissy at dA when they kept pulling shit with their unreleased API
[11:02] NuckingFuts: They've been ignoring the dev community for a while
[11:02] kohai: @rem: @codepo8 aye, as was #jquery, and is today #nodejs and many, many others. IRC is good, and having web access: even better.
[11:02] NuckingFuts: And we recently found out that it's a disconnect between deviantTech and the middle management
[11:02] NuckingFuts: So programmers aren't happy with their managers
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[11:03] NuckingFuts: So that never ends well :/
[11:03] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: And what's with their servers too? Something like 1/15 pages fails to load
[11:03] AAA_awright: And it's seemingly random too
[11:03] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: inorite.  I hope NodeJS can solve that :D
[11:03] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: So you use deviantART?
[11:04] kohai: @codeandbeyond: Links, news, Resources: Node.js (1), by @ajLopez =&gt; http://feedly.com/k/iqEZao - Excellent! (link: http://ajlopez.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/links-news-resources-node-js-1/)
[11:04] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Yes
[11:04] jamey-uk: What do I have put on line 157 to get saveToDatabase() to actually run? I get the error "TypeError: Object #<ImageUpload> has no method 'saveToDatabase'": http://pastebin.com/usAdKR9A
[11:04] AAA_awright: Mostly for browsing I look at maybe 200 works a day
[11:05] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: Ah, I'm in it for the community and promotion of my design/user script work
[11:05] mendel_: indutny: you're the maintainer of node-spdy?
[11:05] indutny: mendel_: yes
[11:05] NuckingFuts: 
ACTION has gotten two Daily DEviations on there :D

[11:05] indutny: mendel_: as you can see :D https://github.com/indutny/node-spdy
[11:05] mendel_: I'm not that smart
[11:05] mendel_: ;)
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[11:06] tuhoojabotti: :D
[11:06] NuckingFuts: Aaaaanyways, sleep
[11:06] NuckingFuts: So nainai #Node.js
[11:06] tuhoojabotti: lol
[11:06] tuhoojabotti: 14:00 here
[11:06] mendel_: indutny: you've got a site running on spdy?
[11:06] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Oh yes?
[11:06] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: Oh well cya then
[11:07] indutny: mendel_: not really :) but you can run example and test it locally
[11:07] NuckingFuts: God it's good to finally understand GNU Screen...
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[11:07] NuckingFuts: Seeya in 10 hours lol
[11:07] tuhoojabotti: lol
[11:07] NuckingFuts: Well, 8 hours
[11:07] NuckingFuts: So noon my time :P
[11:07] tuhoojabotti: screen<3
[11:07] NuckingFuts: tuhoojabotti: agreed
[11:07] mendel_: indutny: yeah, but hoped to see it live
[11:07] tuhoojabotti: screen_away.pl ♡
[11:07] `3rdEden: and i still think it should be written in C instead of js
[11:07] NuckingFuts: I feel like such a h4xx0r with my 4-pane screen shit
[11:07] indutny: mendel_: one sec, I'll run it on local machine
[11:08] `3rdEden: and i still think it should be written in C instead of js indutny*
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[11:08] mendel_: indutny: you've heard of localtunnel?
[11:08] AAA_awright: NuckingFuts: So you're on the west coast then
[11:08] kohai: @JsonGorman: can't seem to return a unix epoch timestamp in #nodejs why does date have no getTime() function??
[11:08] Skola: I feel like a sad haxor with my not-working-since-yesterday 27" inch screen
[11:08] AAA_awright: Too, then
[11:08] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: yup, Modesto, California.
[11:08] NuckingFuts: Hooray for shitty city!
[11:08] AAA_awright: Arizona
[11:08] tuhoojabotti: Finland \o
[11:08] indutny: mendel_: https://donnerjack13589.dyndns.tv:8081/
[11:08] NuckingFuts: lawl finland
[11:08] AAA_awright: I should go to sleep
[11:09] AAA_awright: I SHOULD go to sleep but I want to make my IRC client work
[11:09] indutny: mendel_: I've heard of dynamic DNS :)
[11:09] tuhoojabotti: indutny: omg broken cert
[11:09] kohai: @BenjaminReid: @JsonGorman Oh, you workin' with #nodejs? Built anything yet?
[11:09] NuckingFuts: AAA_awright: I need to, or else my family will yell at me :P
[11:09] tuhoojabotti: AAA_awright: Tell me more.
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[11:09] indutny: tuhoojabotti: should I buy a certificate for my dynamic dns domain? :D
[11:09] indutny: lol
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[11:09] asdfsafdsa: AAA_awright: tell me more too
[11:09] tuhoojabotti: indutny: Yes ofc, but nice work.
[11:09] indutny: `3rdEden: yep, bat that's your pace
[11:09] mendel_: indutny: nice, I can see it workign @ chrome://net-internals/#spdy
[11:09] AAA_awright: tuhoojabotti: I'm writing a Node.js IRC client that stays connected in the background, and uses a web browser as a UI
[11:09] NuckingFuts: indutny: I've got a better url.  peterlejeck.tk :D
[11:09] AAA_awright: For now
[11:10] NuckingFuts: Yay for free domains
[11:10] tuhoojabotti: I has tuhoojabotti.com :D
[11:10] tuhoojabotti: tuh.is doubled it's price. :/
[11:10] NuckingFuts: I'm too poor for domains
[11:10] AAA_awright: asdfsafdsa: And in the future I'll have an IRC bouncer and Quassel support too
[11:10] indutny: I've indutny.com
[11:10] `3rdEden: indutny ;D takes to much time ;(
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[11:10] indutny: but it's reserverd for my site as you can see
[11:10] tuhoojabotti: AAA_awright: websockets?
[11:10] mendel_: indutny: it's maybe a good idea to make this a live page and add it to your github project, just to confirm it's working ;)
[11:10] AAA_awright: But now I just want to get socket.io working >:( actually maybe it's my backend...
[11:10] AAA_awright: Yeah it is I think
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[11:10] tuhoojabotti: AAA_awright: What we really need is SSH!
[11:11] tuhoojabotti: :P
[11:11] `3rdEden: AAA_awright: you should just use 0.6 instead of 0.7
[11:11] NuckingFuts: I want pleje.ck or nu.ck
[11:11] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: Eh I like cutting edge
[11:11] indutny: mendel_: of course, can you donate 10-20 $ so I'll be able to run server for at least 1 -2 months
[11:11] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: And it's my problem I'm sure
[11:11] NuckingFuts: But nope, .ck only registeres under .co.ck
[11:11] NuckingFuts: le sigh
[11:11] `3rdEden: AAA_awright cutting edge will probably cutting your wrists as well :D
[11:11] AAA_awright: I have seperate processes for the web browser and the IRC client
[11:11] mendel_: indutny: I will run it for you if you want
[11:11] AAA_awright: And they're talking in an endless loop for some reason
[11:11] ShreeKavi: Hi, anyone has a good suggestion for a node based collaborative whiteboard
[11:11] NuckingFuts: And I do't want a cock lodged in my name :P
[11:11] indutny: mendel_: that'll be great
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[11:12] NuckingFuts: 
ACTION yawns and puts on some beirut to put him to sleep

[11:12] mendel_: indutny: if you want you can add a subdomain on your domain,forward that dns to my server
[11:12] mendel_: the only thing is that we won't have a proper certificate, but it will still demostrate that it's working
[11:13] tuhoojabotti: AAA_awright: web-ssh client would be cool
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[11:13] tuhoojabotti: and useful
[11:13] indutny: mendel_: you can run it even on IP address, I don't think that domain actually matters
[11:13] AAA_awright: tuhoojabotti: I think that exists already
[11:13] tuhoojabotti: I haven't found a good one
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[11:13] tuhoojabotti: TELL ME NOW
[11:13] tuhoojabotti: ;)
[11:13] AAA_awright: tuhoojabotti: But an SSH client for my Node.js IRC client would be cool
[11:13] mendel_: indutny: I will private msg u if ok
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[11:16] kohai: @JsonGorman: @ryah you'll know! how do i return a unix timestamp in #nodejs date has no getTime() function?
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[11:18] indutny: mendel_: that'll be ok
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[11:19] swilson06: can anyone tell me what i need to do to get npm working for me? http://pastebin.com/yepbV3UQ
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[11:22] crayzee: Is there a shorter/cleaner way to convert a string to base64 than: var b64 = new Buffer(myString).toString('base64'); ?
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[11:23] kohai: @NuckChorris: Whose leg do I hafta hump around here to get a simple, secure session system? #nodejs
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[11:25] crayzee: Also, that doesn't seem to work quite right. It ignores any singular terminating \0
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[11:25] level09: is there any performance gain if use node mysql module instead of php to run my db queries ?
[11:25] AAA_awright: `3rdEden: Yeah appearently it's Socket.io on the browser side which is send()ing the very messages sent to it
[11:26] AAA_awright: It send()s back the message for some reason
[11:26] AAA_awright: Which is wildly confusing to my server
[11:26] level09: `3rdEden: I have fixed my problem with the number and the scaling :D
[11:26] Shinuza: level09: what are you planning to do?
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[11:27] crayzee: new Buffer("Hi").toString('base64') == new Buffer("Hi\0").toString('base64') == 'SGk='
[11:27] crayzee: new Buffer("Hi\0\0").toString('base64') == 'SGkA'
[11:27] level09: Shinuza: I have many php scripts that run on a cron job
[11:27] Shinuza: swilson06: did you do what npm suggests
[11:27] crayzee: Am I doing something wrong? Do I need to .toString('binary') or similar?
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[11:28] Shinuza: crayzee: I know there's a module for base64, I don't know the buffer API well enough to help you :)
[11:29] level09: I want to rewrite them in node
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[11:29] AAA_awright: crayzee: Hmm that is interesting
[11:29] AAA_awright: > Buffer("\0\0\0")
[11:29] AAA_awright: <Buffer 00 00>
[11:30] crayzee: AAA_awright, I thought so too
[11:30] AAA_awright: Buffer() appears to consume the trailing \0
[11:30] crayzee: AAA_awright, particularly interesting it's only the terminating \0 that is ignored
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[11:30] AAA_awright: ry why is Buffer misbehaving
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[11:31] AAA_awright: It's not V8
[11:31] jamey-uk: https://gist.github.com/1026913 does anyone know why line 156 complains that the method saveToDatabase() does not exist?
[11:32] crayzee: ImageUpload.prototype.savetoDatabase = function() {
[11:32] roidrage: jamey-uk: because you called the method savetoDatabase in line 174
[11:32] crayzee: You're missing a captial T
[11:32] Shinuza: level09: then do all of it in node
[11:32] crayzee: jamey-uk, :)
[11:33] jamey-uk: :D
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[11:33] jamey-uk: THANK YOU
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[11:33] jamey-uk: crayzee: that was stumping me for the last 20 minutes ;)
[11:34] level09: Shinuza: I cant do all, system is too complex :DD
[11:34] crayzee: :)
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[11:34] level09: but at least I will start migrating parts
[11:35] Shinuza: ain't there a task scheduler in node?
[11:35] bnoordhuis: AAA_awright: what do you mean, 'misbehaving'?
[11:35] bnoordhuis: Shinuza: no, node is single-threaded - but you can defer callbacks
[11:35] AAA_awright: bnoordhuis: See crayzee's plea and run Buffer("\0") in the REPL
[11:36] AAA_awright: Contrast to Buffer("\0\0")
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[11:36] Shinuza: bnoordhuis: I know, I was thinking something like celery in python
[11:36] bnoordhuis: AAA_awright: you mean this? https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/297
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[11:37] bnoordhuis: AAA_awright: oh, and this: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/394
[11:37] AAA_awright: bnoordhuis: No
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[11:38] bnoordhuis: AAA_awright: then you'll need to explain it to me, i just joined the channel so i haven't followed the discussion
[11:38] AAA_awright: bnoordhuis: Not quite?
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[11:39] AAA_awright: bnoordhuis: Buffer("...\0\0\0") eats the trailing \0
[11:39] crayzee: AAA_awright, solved it
[11:39] `3rdEden: level09 good to know
[11:39] crayzee: AAA_awright, needed to do Buffer("\0",'binary')
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[11:39] bnoordhuis: AAA_awright: an artifact of how strings in c and c++ work
[11:39] crayzee: Thanks bnoordhuis for the links
[11:40] bnoordhuis: crayzee: you're welcome :)
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[11:41] crayzee: I want to sign a string in Node.js and then verify it in a web browser - is there a recommended way of doing this? (I can use the crypto module in Node, but what do I use in browser that is compatible?)
[11:43] bnoordhuis: crayzee: google for 'hmac javascript', there are implementations out there
[11:43] indutny: crayzee: try to use sha1-hmac, seems to be available for browsers
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[11:43] crayzee: bnoordhuis, indutny thanks :)
[11:45] kohai: @rsung02138: Node.js is backwards http://zite.to/m2HRGa via @Ziteapp (link: http://blog.ankurgoyal.com/post/6433642218/node-js-is-backwards)
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[11:47] AAA_awright: bnoordhuis: I realize that much, but that's for newline-terminated strings only which Buffers are not
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[11:48] AAA_awright: But whatever
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[11:48] AAA_awright: ...newline?
[11:48] AAA_awright: Null-terminated strings
[11:48] _mql: hi.. is there a solid module for unescaping htmlentities?
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[11:49] _mql: i'm always running into encoding-troubles...
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[11:52] kohai: @Krishna__priya: @vinitasanthosh ഇതൊക്കെ വല്ല പച്ചക്കറീടെ ഇംഗ്ലീഷ് പേരാണോ? #nodejs, socket.io & jquery
[11:52] `3rdEden: y u do that kohai
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[12:11] swilson06: Shinuza: pretty much. instead of chmod -R $USER /usr/local, i just added the user to the staff group and did a chmod -R 775 /usr/local/lib/npm
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[12:15] kohai: @ramanandc: #nodejs and #Amazon #AWS # EC2 http://t.co/fGWrI6l (link: https://github.com/bmizerany/swirl-node)
[12:16] kohai: @kadirpekel: herodot turns into a distributed event emitter, see per evet per channel basis event handling. http://t.co/Y4K5UU9 #nodejs /cc @hij1nx (link: https://github.com/coffeemate/herodot/blob/master/lib/herodot.coffee)
[12:17] kohai: @SkaKri: Node.js + socket.IO – pārdomas, komentāri, kritika, ieteikumi?
[12:18] kohai: @devseo: YUI Theater —  Dav Glass: “YUI 3 and Node.js (Not Just For Web Pages) ” (51 min.) - http://is.gd/seFcFW (link: http://feeds.yuiblog.com/~r/YahooUserInterfaceBlog/~3/a9enBX5-3a8/)
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[12:19] asdfsafdsa: is there a node module that has a recursive version of jquery's extend function?
[12:19] mendel_: http://documentcloud.github.com/underscore/
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[12:20] asdfsafdsa: mendel: i was looking at that but not sure if it's recursive
[12:21] kohai: @aheritier: @obazoud ca ne marche pas avec du https ? #nodejs
[12:22] kohai: @fbrandel: just launched my #nodejs and #instagram experiment called instaport.me http://t.co/IET4WzA (link: http://instaport.me/)
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[12:26] kohai: @obazoud: @aheritier je n'ai pas codé le https pour l'instant, avec #nodejs c'est possible, pas sûr que le https soit dispo sur @Nodester
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[12:32] kohai: @aheritier: @obazoud @Nodester implémenté :-) trop simple #nodejs
[12:33] razvandme: hello, how can I find the hostname of a nodejs server application?
[12:33] kohai: @Stormogulen: http://bit.ly/lusrvI NODE.JS IS BACKWARDS (link: http://blog.ankurgoyal.com/post/6433642218/node-js-is-backwards)
[12:34] kohai: @aheritier: @obazoud Faudrait que je gère les 301 et 302 maintenant ... #nodejs
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[12:37] kohai: @obazoud: @aheritier oui y a encore du taff :) n'hésites à faire des pull request #nodejs
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[12:44] CIA-92: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r3d7d994 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): 
[12:44] CIA-92: node: Merge branch 'v0.4'
[12:44] CIA-92: node: Conflicts:
[12:44] CIA-92: node:  doc/api/modules.markdown
[12:44] CIA-92: node:  test/simple/test-crypto.js - http://bit.ly/mhBYmx
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[12:46] kohai: @ebottabi: @mickael wanna merge xmpp with node.js to scale more, another proof that ejabberd is the way to go for xmpp
[12:46] Cheery: what does the eventloop system looks like in node.js sources?
[12:47] zmbmartin: any better vps places out there then linode or slicehost that someone would recommend?
[12:47] yenz: zmbmartin: lowendbox may be of use
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[12:49] kohai: @halfageekinfo: How To: install node.js with nvm http://is.gd/Yu6naC #javascript (link: http://javascript.halfageek.info/2011/06/08/how-to-install-node-js-with-nvm/)
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[12:49] kohai: @obazoud: @aheritier pull request accepté :) #nodejs #github
[12:49] zmbmartin: yenz: I would love to pay less but I also worry about the "you get what you pay for" thing. But thanks for the link.
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[12:52] kohai: @lepnio: Il va falloir que je fasse du #nodejs, #playframework, #mongodb ... le weekend s'annonce bien rempli
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[12:53] yenz: zmbmartin: np 
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[12:53] yenz: (i use linode, myself :)
[12:54] Shinuza1: me too
[12:54] Shinuza1: swilson06 it says you have to delete any remaining modules in your global npm dir
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[12:55] Shinuza1: if you do this it should work properly, the global version is conflicting with the one you are trying to install
[12:55] swilson06: yeah, i had a few issues :)
[12:55] swilson06: first, i cloned an old git
[12:55] swilson06: then everything pretty much worked
[12:56] swilson06: oh, and i also had to chmod -R 775 npm_modules
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[12:57] kohai: @obazoud: @lepnio n'écoute pas @Florian_elam ! #nodejs rocks !
[12:57] Shinuza1: brb
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[12:59] saimon_: Hi all I'm running into some weird issue with npm: https://gist.github.com/23b74b02a576ea870f14
[12:59] saimon_: I found this: https://github.com/isaacs/npm/issues/617
[12:59] saimon_: but it wasn't much help...
[12:59] saimon_: :(
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[13:01] saimon_: nm...I cleaned out the cache uninstalled and it's working now
[13:02] tuhoojabotti: lols
[13:02] shinuza: :)
[13:02] shinuza: brb
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[13:04] shinuza: oh my
[13:04] shinuza: ok so Adium sucks a lot for IRC
[13:05] shinuza: Colloquy is ugly
[13:05] shinuza: Limechat looks ok for now
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[13:07] kohai: @obazoud: @Florian_elam @lepnio "A la fin c'est le javascript qui gagne!" #nodejs cc @NewsDuFront
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[13:07] lukstr: shinuza: irssi
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[13:09] tuhoojabotti: irssi \o ♡
[13:09] level09: have any 1 used node with mysql ?
[13:09] tuhoojabotti: level09: y
[13:09] shinuza: lukstr: I was certain someone would say that
[13:10] tuhoojabotti: shinuza: irssi<3
[13:10] level09: i see many modules, trying to find the best one
[13:10] shinuza: I'm not geek enough to use this
[13:10] shinuza: I'm trying hard tho
[13:10] shinuza: level09: read the api, read the code (optionnal)
[13:10] shinuza: enjoy
[13:10] tuhoojabotti: shinuza: What's so geek about it?
[13:10] level09: shinuza: you mean I dont need an extra module ?
[13:11] razvandme: how can i get the host name of a http server in node?!
[13:11] shinuza: level09: read the api of the module you are reviewing :p
[13:11] level09: shinuza: aah okay
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[13:11] level09: shinuza: that's why I'm asking, maybe someone has a recommendation on a specific module :P
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[13:12] shinuza: razvandme: process.env
[13:13] shinuza: tuhoojabotti: actually it's not that geek as it is, but I believe it gets geek when you make the best of it
[13:13] shinuza: e.g screen
[13:13] shinuza: + irssi
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[13:13] shinuza: then it's awesome
[13:13] shinuza: I should try it sometime
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[13:13] tuhoojabotti: screen + irssi is just pure lust
[13:14] tuhoojabotti: ":D"
[13:14] shinuza: :)
[13:14] tuhoojabotti: with screen_away.pl + bitlbee for msn/fb etc.
[13:14] razvandme: shinuza: thanks, i was referring to the http server instance i'm creating (http.createserver {what is the hostname of the created http server instance}
[13:14] shinuza: oh
[13:15] eldar: hi! I'm trying to understand a bit more on concurrency in node. Given this piece of code http://pastebin.com/5ecUVDY7 my question is: Is it always guaranteed that first callback will be executed before the second one?
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[13:15] shinuza: eldar: no
[13:15] Ezku\: eldar: of course not
[13:15] mauritslamers_: Question: I am trying to find a memory leak in my node app, but when using the profiler I don't see my own objects anywhere
[13:16] shinuza: It depends on how much time each I/O request would take
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[13:16] mauritslamers_: anyone an idea?
[13:16] shinuza: if callback2 opens a 10kb file, and callback1 a 10tb file, obviously...
[13:16] eldar: shinuza, Ezku\  thanks, so there are no synchronisation built into that
[13:16] shinuza: eldar: no, but you can create a "continuation"
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[13:17] shinuza: (major word abuse, whatever)
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[13:17] eldar: hm, what kind of continuation? Something I can read on?
[13:17] shinuza: I think promise is more appropriate
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[13:18] shinuza: basically you say, I'll open these two files, and when they both return values I want to do this other thing
[13:18] mauritslamers_: the profiler info contains lots of (closure) stuff, which seems to be a self-referencing thing
[13:18] shinuza: mauritslamers_: what kind of app
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[13:18] shinuza: do you have C++ node modules?
[13:18] mauritslamers_: server app
[13:19] mauritslamers_: shinuza: no
[13:19] mauritslamers_: but some of the things I use as frameworks do show up in some way
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[13:19] shinuza: your javascript is not supposed to leak
[13:19] tim_smart: tuhoojabotti: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/396394/screenshots/irssi.png
[13:19] mauritslamers_: I would expect so.... but still my server app ran out of memory after a week...
[13:20] shinuza: tim_smart: awesome :)
[13:20] shinuza: have you tried xmonad :->
[13:20] mauritslamers_: so now I am trying to find where I might have missed cleaning up properly... but the profiler doesn't help me a bit... 
[13:20] shinuza: mauritslamers_: what is the stack
[13:20] shinuza: what modules are you depending on?
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[13:21] tim_smart: shinuza: Nope
[13:21] xerox: tim_smart: the [2=2] [3=3] ... are particularly funny
[13:21] tim_smart: Awesome does the job
[13:21] mauritslamers_: shinuza: http://github.com/mauritslamers/Thoth -> only depending on node-mysql atm
[13:21] shinuza: Lua is weird tho, a lot less than Haskell too
[13:21] tuhoojabotti: tim_smart: eww, that's just a sacrilege
[13:22] tuhoojabotti: The default theme should never be touched!
[13:22] shinuza: :)
[13:22] tuhoojabotti: I only added nick colours and align
[13:22] tuhoojabotti: ofc trackbar.pl
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[13:23] eldar: shinuza, but promises look like some old thing that node doesn't support anymore?
[13:23] tim_smart: tuhoojabotti: My terminal colors + default theme = blindness
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[13:23] davidbanham: tim_smart: Kiwi?
[13:23] tuhoojabotti: tim_smart: mac-terminal-default-colors?
[13:23] shinuza: eldar: I meant the concept of it, and it's not old
[13:23] tim_smart: davidbanham: Yeah
[13:23] shinuza: eldar: try to see if there are some modules to do that
[13:24] shinuza: mauritslamers_: I'd run a lot of queries in a controlled environment, I'm pretty sure node-mysql is the culprit
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[13:24] shinuza: also, level09 don't chose node-mysql ahah
[13:24] eldar: shinuza, yeah, I'll have a look, thanks
[13:24] davidbanham: tim_smart: Yay! Was wondering what timezone that screenshot was from.
[13:24] level09: shinuza: what do you mean ?
[13:24] level09: why not 
[13:25] mauritslamers_: shinuza: thanks for the hint :)
[13:25] mauritslamers_: I wanted to switch to couchdb anyway
[13:25] mauritslamers_: just an extra push into the 'right' direction :)
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[13:25] shinuza: eldar: https://github.com/kriszyp/node-promise
[13:26] shinuza: level09: read upwards :p
[13:26] eldar: yeah, just found that one too!
[13:26] tim_smart: tuhoojabotti: Solarized: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized
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[13:27] mauritslamers_: shinuza: level09... do you have a link of what they used?
[13:27] shinuza: mauritslamers_: that's my assumption, but I didn't see node leaking in a ~month of intensive usage (at least the latest version)
[13:27] shinuza: so I'd say node-mysql is leaking
[13:27] kohai: @theprogrammer: Node Inspector - Node.js Debugger http://t.co/DsWu8UG &lt;- video (link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOnK3NVnxL8&feature=share)
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[13:27] level09: I'm looking into dbslayer 
[13:27] level09: developed by nytimes
[13:27] tuhoojabotti: tim_smart: I can't read that website.
[13:28] xerox: lol
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[13:28] shinuza: eldar: tell me how it is :)
[13:28] shinuza: tuhoojabotti: color blind?
[13:28] kohai: @pbrooks: Has anyone used Node.js + Express for any serious projects?  What are your thoughts about the two frameworks?
[13:28] tuhoojabotti: No
[13:28] mauritslamers_: shinuza: it is also the first time I encountered this issue... :)
[13:28] shinuza: tuhoojabotti: you are now!
[13:29] tuhoojabotti: it's the font
[13:29] tuhoojabotti: scribbles on this monitor
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[13:29] shinuza: oh
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[13:29] tuhoojabotti: ctrl+a helped :D
[13:30] tuhoojabotti: http://edu.joroinen.fi/~jliik/images/logged_in_screen_irssi_firsttime.jpg this is how irssi should look
[13:30] tuhoojabotti: ;)
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[13:31] shinuza: into putty XD
[13:31] tuhoojabotti: puttytray on windows :D
[13:31] tim_smart: tuhoojabotti: irssi in putty >.> Not a good start.
[13:31] shinuza: xD
[13:31] tuhoojabotti: tim_smart: Well puttytray is the best ssh client I have found for windows
[13:31] razvandme: ok, so i'm using the url module, and parsing an url, but the host/hostname are not retrieved. Is this a bug?
[13:32] tim_smart: tuhoojabotti: Windows, not a good start :p
[13:32] eldar: shinuza, found this one https://github.com/coolaj86/futures looks more maintained
[13:32] tuhoojabotti: tim_smart: Too bad I can't choose the OS I work on.
[13:32] davidbanham: tuhoojabotti: "for windows" I think I have identified your problem.
[13:32] shinuza: razvandme: do you really have to do this
[13:32] tuhoojabotti: davidbanham: Yeah.
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[13:32] tuhoojabotti: I'd love to use linux at work
[13:32] kohai: @masylum: Barcelona #nodejs meetup tomorrow @ Xing offices! Who is in?
[13:32] shinuza: razvandme: wait a sec
[13:32] tim_smart: tuhoojabotti: Yup
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[13:33] tuhoojabotti: Even the server here is windows ;D
[13:33] razvandme: shinuza: what i'm doing?
[13:33] shinuza: tuhoojabotti: I've made it mandatory for me to be able to use whatever I want at work
[13:33] shinuza: otherwise I'd rather go elsewhere
[13:34] tuhoojabotti: shinuza: People here consider me lucky to have a job.
[13:34] tuhoojabotti: Summer jobs are rare here
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[13:34] tuhoojabotti: hard to get
[13:34] shinuza: tuhoojabotti: where do you live?
[13:34] tuhoojabotti: Finland
[13:35] tuhoojabotti: (not that hard to find out)
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[13:35] tuhoojabotti: (i.e. tuhoojabotti.com (which is in my hostmask))
[13:35] tuhoojabotti: ;D
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[13:35] tim_smart: tuhoojabotti: Do you use vim, or gvim for windows?
[13:35] tuhoojabotti: tim_smart: Notepad++!
[13:36] Clex: Erk.
[13:36] tim_smart: Aw. I thought you being a irssi person and all.
[13:36] tuhoojabotti: I'm not a geek
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[13:36] shinuza: ahah
[13:36] tuhoojabotti: I like irssi, that's it.
[13:36] tim_smart: Geeks don't use vim, ninja's do.
[13:37] tuhoojabotti: masochists too
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[13:37] tuhoojabotti: ":D"
[13:37] devdazed: i hate that term
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[13:37] devdazed: "ninja"
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[13:37] tim_smart: Masichist vim users never leave insert mode
[13:37] shinuza: razvandme: are you testing with the http module only?
[13:37] tim_smart: *masochist
[13:37] BigWookie: Hey, is there a storage module as easy as permafrost? ( with sqlite )
[13:37] shinuza: in this case you have the host in req.headers.host
[13:38] devdazed: every person ive met that refers to themself as a ninja is intermediate at best
[13:38] Bogh: is there a reference to V8 javascript language ?
[13:38] tim_smart: devdazed: I'm just an ordinary guy
[13:38] shinuza: Bogh: I don't think so :(
[13:38] tuhoojabotti: devdazed: So you're a guru?
[13:38] shinuza: tell me I'm wrong
[13:38] tim_smart: I have seen ninja's using vim though
[13:38] devdazed: i dont like any term like that
[13:39] devdazed: whatever happened to beginner, intermediate expert?
[13:39] devdazed: lol
[13:39] `3rdEden: Bogh checkout the wiki pages @ the repo
[13:39] shinuza: \o/
[13:39] Bogh: `3rdEden: k, thx
[13:39] `3rdEden: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/_pages
[13:39] Bogh: `3rdEden: nice :D
[13:39] BigWookie: i'm a wookie..
[13:40] devdazed: lol
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[13:40] BigWookie: what now ninjas?
[13:40] shinuza: tuhoojabotti: Finland, awesome
[13:40] tuhoojabotti: shinuza: How come, you?
[13:40] shinuza: France
[13:40] tuhoojabotti: You french?
[13:41] shinuza: Yes
[13:41] devdazed: haha
[13:41] tuhoojabotti: b-but you don't seem crazy as the other frenchies I've seen. :3
[13:41] BigWookie: or is there a decent, tested, database wrapper that supports sqlite?
[13:41] Clex: Crazy how?
[13:41] shinuza: CRAZYYYY
[13:41] tuhoojabotti: ^
[13:42] shinuza: xD
[13:42] Clex: Oh. Like crazy.
[13:42] shinuza: `3rdEden: hum
[13:42] `3rdEden: hum?
[13:42] shinuza: the api links to the node api
[13:43] shinuza: not the v8 api, or am I missing something?
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[13:43] `3rdEden: yes... thats on the site but the wiki different information
[13:43] shinuza: Clex is French too you know
[13:43] `3rdEden: like ECMA 5 Mozilla Features Implemented in V8
[13:43] shinuza: or lives in France
[13:44] tuhoojabotti: or just uses french host
[13:44] shinuza: `3rdEden: on moz-dev then?
[13:44] Clex: Know a bunch of stuff about "crazy frenchies".
[13:44] shinuza: You see, Mozilla made it very clear that they will devert from ECMA 262 and thus released different versions of their API with extended features
[13:45] shinuza: which should later be implemented in ECMA 5/Harmony
[13:45] shinuza: but Google never did that
[13:45] shinuza: So I'm doubtful whenever I type Object.keys or .reduce, etc...
[13:46] kohai: @withbreakpoints: Is JavaScript the future of the Web? - Node.js and the JavaScript Age http://bit.ly/iBiCs3 (link: http://metamarketsgroup.com/blog/node-js-and-the-javascript-age/)
[13:46] shinuza: It's not clear what set of feature they've implemented
[13:47] shinuza: maybe it's very well hidden too
[13:47] kohai: @david_harvey: Anyone with JavaScript chops, london-based, interested in joining me for a couple of weeks of work on a node.js project?
[13:48] kohai: @Mr_Nizzle: Node.js Step by Step: Blogging Application | Nettuts+ http://t.co/PREFOFk || Makes me think about hacking something like `Node.js on Rails` (link: http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/node-js-step-by-step-blogging-application/)
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[13:48] shinuza: Am I speaking too much?
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[13:49] tuhoojabotti: No
[13:49] tuhoojabotti: you're typing
[13:49] tuhoojabotti: Well I wouldn't know
[13:49] tuhoojabotti: I can't hear you.
[13:49] shinuza: >.<
[13:50] tuhoojabotti: dumb question -> dumb answer
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[13:50] kohai: @jakescott: Most depended on Node.js packages http://t.co/4Gk6F8m (link: http://search.npmjs.org/)
[13:50] shinuza: you have a point
[13:50] xerox: may I have a point too
[13:50] bibabot: anyone knows any good nodejs cms project listings?
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[13:51] tuhoojabotti: xerox: You can't have points, you make them.
[13:51] shinuza: bibabot: check out the wiki, I don't know if there are mature cms project
[13:51] shinuza: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/ECMA-5-Mozilla-Features-Implemented-in-V8 < good enough
[13:51] xerox: I want a point :(
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[13:53] kohai: @phpbangla: Node.js Step by Step: Blogging Application:- SERVICE_DISCONTINUED|Service has been discontinued - see http://u.nu/unu-discontinued
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[13:53] xerox: lol
[13:54] tuhoojabotti: Then make one.
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[13:56] bibabot: shinuza: thanks ... been there .. not really mature 
[13:56] killfill: hi
[13:56] killfill: im trying to install npm, and im getting this: http://pastebin.com/YurGk0Dm
[13:57] killfill: its somehow expanding something with the content of a directory...
[13:57] killfill: why do i get this?...
[13:57] masylum: any nodejs developer from barcelona?
[13:57] kohai: @_iakkom: node.js is throwback to the yesteryears! #SivajiGanesanComputing :)
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[13:58] Clex: killfill: strange. 
[13:59] kohai: @organicode: Nice! “@fbrandel: just launched my #nodejs and #instagram experiment called instaport.me http://t.co/3wQgPaX” (link: http://instaport.me/)
[13:59] killfill: yup, it worked ones.. but i needed to clean up, so reinstall it.
[13:59] Clex: killfill: try: wget http://npmjs.org/install.sh && md5sum install.sh 
[13:59] Clex: I've got 6517d9fa6eb5fa322ca80c58f477fa76
[14:00] killfill: 6517d9fa6eb5fa322ca80c58f477fa76
[14:00] killfill: yup
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[14:00] Clex: So the file is not corrupted.
[14:01] Clex: tar: Failed to set default locale
[14:01] Clex: Looks definitly like a locale issue.
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[14:02] tuhoojabotti: yeah
[14:02] killfill: i get that when loggin in to root directly... but when using just sudo, the locale issue disapear.
[14:02] tuhoojabotti: from the looks of it
[14:02] killfill: but it doesnt install neither.. :S
[14:02] Clex: Try "su -p".
[14:03] killfill: -p?.. hm.. im on freebsd.. whats -p?
[14:03] Clex: To preserve your environment.
[14:03] Clex: -m I guess
[14:04] killfill: same.. :S
[14:04] shinuza: ah good ol' locale failure :)
[14:04] Wizek: Is socketIO-s socket.emit supposed to work locally, and not transfer anything over the wire?
[14:04] Clex: What about the "tar" error ?
[14:04] killfill: tried with make install from a clean github checkout too
[14:04] killfill: tar error?
[14:04] samuelkadolph: Is there anyway to listen for the uncaughtException do something and then let node crash out like normal?
[14:05] Clex: "Failed to set default locale"
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[14:06] killfill: i dont think its the tar
[14:06] shinuza: curl maybe
[14:06] Clex: But it may be from the same locale issue.
[14:06] killfill: http://pastebin.com/00JK17Dy
[14:07] shinuza: samuelkadolph: you can do whatever you want in catch
[14:07] Clex: killfill: what gives you : env | egrep "^(LC|LANG)" ?
[14:07] shinuza: they throw another exception
[14:07] killfill: i tried to reset the my locale too.. with LANG=C
[14:07] killfill: now its LANG=C :)
[14:07] samuelkadolph: Can't use a try catch, I'm running a childprocess and when node crashes, it doesn't kill the childprocess
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[14:07] Clex: And before?
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[14:08] kohai: @NodeJSAtSO: Is there a good DAL or DAL/ORM for Node.js yet? http://bit.ly/kjNAb0 (link: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6358655/is-there-a-good-dal-or-dal-orm-for-node-js-yet?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
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[14:08] killfill: hm.. actually its empty
[14:08] shinuza: samuelkadolph: is it supposed to crash?
[14:09] Clex: Then try LANG=en_US.UTF-8 curl http://npmjs.org/install.sh | sh
[14:09] shinuza: use you locale
[14:09] shinuza: +r
[14:09] samuelkadolph: shinuza: No but I can't control that with the code that opens the subprocess
[14:09] shinuza: fr_FR.UTF-8 if you are French :p
[14:09] shinuza: etc..
[14:09] slickplaid: Anyone familiar with running coffeescript programatically, ie - var c = require('coffee-script'); c.run(whatdoidohere?); ?
[14:10] Clex: What if I'm ashamed of being french? :p
[14:10] killfill: nope, same thing.
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[14:10] systemfault: Clex: Then you use fr_CA.UTF-8 :P
[14:10] Clex: /o\
[14:10] killfill: i wonder where di my locale go.. but anyway.. you gys sure its a locale thing?..
[14:10] Clex: I'd rather be french systemfault. =)
[14:10] shinuza: systemfault: xD
[14:10] systemfault: :/
[14:10] shinuza: en_GB
[14:11] Clex: I'm really sorry systemfault, this is an accent issue I guess.
[14:11] shinuza: killfill: your file has weird chars in it 
[14:11] shinuza: probably
[14:11] Clex: Canadians are nice on IRC.
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[14:11] shinuza: otherwise, try downloading it "by hand"
[14:11] kohai: @matthewcp: @Grafrajohn Currently working on node.js project and not using a framework. In C# I use VS unit tests. Can't write tests first in C# though!
[14:11] systemfault: Clex: French are as usual on IRC... (Arrogant :P )
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[14:11] shinuza: i.e wget
[14:11] Clex: =)
[14:11] systemfault: Clex: j/k, not all of them
[14:12] killfill: shinuza: http://pastebin.com/yaHw7iqL  minimatch.js doesnt look to contain any wired characters...
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[14:13] shinuza: killfill: hum
[14:13] killfill: maybe there is something wired with node 0.4.8.. i just upgraded
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[14:13] killfill: ill try with 0.4.7
[14:14] tuhoojabotti: wohoo
[14:14] tuhoojabotti: 45 mins
[14:14] shinuza:  /\.viminfo(:?�|\.gstreamer-0\.10=K \.nautilus��"K\$$/: 
[14:14] shinuza: this looks like the ENV var
[14:14] tuhoojabotti: corrupted!
[14:14] shinuza: killfill: try `env`
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[14:15] tuhoojabotti: shinuza: You're a genious
[14:15] shinuza: really?
[14:15] Clex: I thought he was french.
[14:15] shinuza: xD
[14:15] killfill: shinuza: my env doesnt contain 'viminfo'.. :P
[14:15] shinuza: meh
[14:15] killfill: Clex: i?.. nope im from chile.. :P
[14:16] tuhoojabotti: killfill: I guess you should do as told. :3
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[14:16] killfill: tuhoojabotti: as told?
[14:17] tuhoojabotti: 17:14 <      shinuza> killfill: try `env`
[14:17] killfill: bash: svn=file:///home/svn/repos: No such file or directory  ...
[14:17] shinuza: is that wrong? :p
[14:17] Clex: killfill: I'm also curious to see your env.
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[14:19] killfill: http://pastebin.com/23p0jZP1  <--- thats my env..
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[14:20] Clex: That seems ok.
[14:20] JoseCabo: Good afternoon for everoneeee!
[14:20] tuhoojabotti: JoseCabo: Hoi<3
[14:20] Clex: I was hoping to find like a LC_ALL or somethin'.
[14:20] JoseCabo: hi tuhoojabotti 
[14:21] kohai: @jmandia: Got node.JS running on my MacBook last night. Basic samples running but still fun.
[14:22] killfill: dont know whats happening..
[14:23] killfill: it always worked before.. :S
[14:24] Clex: killfill: then you should try to put some debug in install.sh and try to find exactly what command fails.
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[14:27] shinuza: killfill: I think the error is related to some ignore file somewhere
[14:27] kohai: @gridshore: Just published a new blog post about #nodejs. This time I create a presentation tool with nodejs: http://t.co/4qn77uI (link: http://www.gridshore.nl/2011/06/15/creating-presentations-with-node-js/)
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[14:28] killfill: ignore file?
[14:28] shinuza: yes
[14:28] shinuza: the line I highlighted earlier is likely to be some ignore file
[14:28] JoseCabo: Hi, someone knows if exists a extension for make QT apps??¿¿
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[14:32] kohai: @sdboyer: #nodejs may be the only thing shiny enough to get bohemian rubyists to stop their unending circlejerk :P
[14:32] killfill: shinuza: its wired.. i think yesterday i clean up some dirs, wich included deleting .nautilus and that stuff.. that doesnt exist anymore.. dotn know where is it comming from.. :P
[14:32] Cheery: why node.js wraps libev instead of using it directly?
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[14:33] shinuza: try another clone killfill
[14:33] shinuza: Cheery: what do you mean?
[14:33] Cheery: shinuza: source code question, node.js builds its own event abstraction over libev.
[14:33] killfill: i should get a job as QA tester.. alwais get strange errors.. :P
[14:34] shinuza: Cheery: that's undergoing work for windows compatibility
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[14:36] Cheery: shinuza: but why? libev works on windows as well according to nginx ppl. :/
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[14:37] killfill: npoe.
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[14:37] shinuza: Cheery: I don't think so
[14:37] shinuza: or you mean, inside cygwin
[14:37] shinuza: which is not an acceptable response :)
[14:37] shinuza: Cheery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jolicloud/5814875256/
[14:38] shinuza: excepts it's not libol but libuv now
[14:38] shinuza: killfill: so, what's up?
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[14:39] shinuza: I'm pretty sure you have a file somewhere containing .viminfo, and stuff
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[14:40] piscisaureus: mraleph: ping
[14:40] shinuza: for some reason npm is trying to append this list with its own list and the encoding of your file is not right
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[14:45] killfill: hm..
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[14:46] killfill: https://github.com/isaacs/npm/blob/master/lib/utils/excludes.js#L104
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[14:46] killfill: if i un-comment that file i see strange things
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[14:47] killfill: see some files of my /usr/local/etc.. :(
[14:49] killfill: shinuza: look http://pastebin.com/KZnJnBBw
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[14:50] Clex: killfill: in install.sh you can replace node=`which node 2>&1` by node=strace `which node 2>&1` 
[14:50] Clex: Then you can see what files it opens.
[14:50] Clex: Damn. There's no strace on FreeBSD isn't it?
[14:50] JoseCabo: Someone knows a extension for make QT apps for node.js??¿¿
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[14:52] kohai: @Romeo_Manzur: conectando #ZendFramework + #ActiveMQ + #nodejs
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[14:53] killfill: Clex: well its opening quite some file.. 
[14:53] killfill: s
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[14:54] CoverSlide: strace uses procfs
[14:55] killfill: Clex: http://pastebin.com/MKnfb8q6
[14:55] killfill: looks wired (at least to me) its opening my open and /usr/local/etc ..
[14:55] killfill: looks wired (at least to me) its opening my home and /usr/local/etc ..
[14:55] kohai: @varunkumar: Node.js vs Java -- http://blog.maxant.co.uk/pebble/2011/05/22/1306092969466.html
[14:56] killfill: just at the end
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[14:56] Clex: Is there any strange stuff in /usr/home/killfill/npm/npm/.gitignore ?
[14:57] killfill: Clex: there are just two * wich i try to remove from the file
[14:57] killfill: tried to remove the file as well..
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[14:58] Clex: No, we're looking for a binary file here I think.
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[14:58] Clex: A binary file on which node.js tries to apply a regex.
[14:59] killfill: dont know how linux behaved, but at least on freebsd, i can cat a directory.. the outpub will be 'garbage' and inside you can see the name of the files.
[14:59] killfill: i think its trying to open a directory as a file
[14:59] Clex: You're maybe right.
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[15:00] shinuza: Clex: A binary file on which node.js tries to apply a regex. > Good point
[15:00] mauritslamers_: shinuza: found my memory leak :-) thanks for your help :)
[15:00] shinuza: mauritslamers_: so, was it node-mysql>
[15:00] shinuza: ?
[15:00] mauritslamers_: shinuza: it may be that there is another one in the node-mysql adapter, but this one was purely my own fault :)
[15:01] killfill: actually yes. if i 'more /ust/local/etc' i see similar results as the console.warn
[15:01] Clex: A read() on a directory file descriptor fails on Linux, but not on *BSD.
[15:01] mauritslamers_: my app keeps a session cache, but didn't destroy the session objects after timeout
[15:01] saschagehlich: `3rdEden: hey man
[15:01] Clex: So maybe a "if (isdir()) continue;" is missing.
[15:01] killfill: maybe i should modify 
[15:01] killfill: yup
[15:01] `3rdEden: saschagehlich hi
[15:01] saschagehlich: do socket.io-clients (server-side) have a .close() event?
[15:01] `3rdEden: 0.6 or 0.7 saschagehlich
[15:01] saschagehlich: 0.6
[15:02] saschagehlich: lol 0.7 wtf
[15:02] Corren: how/if are you guys monitoring node with munin?
[15:02] `3rdEden: they have a _onDisconnect
[15:02] saschagehlich: but there is no way to "kick" clients?
[15:02] `3rdEden: saschagehlich some people are already toying with 0.7
[15:02] `3rdEden: saschagehlich not really
[15:02] saschagehlich: `3rdEden: maybe just close the client socket?
[15:02] `3rdEden: saschagehlich: you should send a kill message to the client and have the client kill it
[15:02] saschagehlich: `3rdEden: alright
[15:02] `3rdEden: saschagehlich polling transports ftw
[15:02] `3rdEden: ;D
[15:02] `3rdEden: + auto reconnect
[15:03] `3rdEden: so that wouldn't help that much
[15:03] saschagehlich: `3rdEden: so the clients have to do socket.close()?
[15:04] shinuza: mauritslamers_: oops :)
[15:04] `3rdEden: saschagehlich probalby in client.request.socket
[15:04] `3rdEden: saschagehlich but I'm not sure :p
[15:04] saschagehlich: grr okay i will try
[15:04] saschagehlich: thanks `3rdEden
[15:04] mauritslamers_: shinuza: indeed :)
[15:04] mauritslamers_: anyway: fixed now :)
[15:04] `3rdEden: saschagehlich not, ideal. iknow ;$
[15:05] shinuza: killfill: maybe there's a bug after all
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[15:05] Clex: shinuza: I think so.
[15:06] Clex: killfill: try to spot any read() corresponding to a directory filesystem in your strace.
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[15:07] killfill: im was checking excludes.js to try to spot it.. 
[15:07] killfill: but damn got a meeting.
[15:07] killfill: well, maybe another aproach..
[15:08] killfill: it worked fine some time ago.. maybe i shold checkout git log... :P
[15:08] Clex: killfill: you've got some randomness when you "cat" a directory.
[15:08] shinuza: killfill: maybe you should file a bug
[15:08] Clex: It might come from here.
[15:08] killfill: last two commit looks suspicius?
[15:08] shinuza: with http://pastebin.com/KZnJnBBw and http://pastebin.com/yaHw7iqL
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[15:09] killfill: Clex: if i cat a directory, its not a ramdim output. its the files, plus some kind of metadata.. dont really know the detail
[15:09] shinuza: it's trying to "cat" your home I guess
[15:09] shinuza: killfill: can you ls -a your home?
[15:09] Clex: Well on OpenBSD it's random binary data.
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[15:09] swilson06: what am i doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/XvffLCPf
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[15:10] swilson06: i installed connect and i can't use it...?
[15:10] Clex: Erw, It was actually. 
[15:10] shinuza: swilson06: first you should avoid installing packages globally :)
[15:10] killfill: shinuza: nothing insteresting to see there.. really..
[15:11] shinuza: killfill: I'm just trying to find out if it contains .viminfo .nautilus, etc...
[15:11] killfill: nope, it doesnt..
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[15:11] swilson06: shinuza: curious why?
[15:11] Corren: does anyone monitor node.js machines? if so, how
[15:11] killfill: well .viminfo yes, but not nauttilus
[15:11] shinuza: meh
[15:12] Dinosaurus: is there any good id3 reader/writer 
[15:12] Dinosaurus: fer node
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[15:12] killfill: could this be it? https://github.com/isaacs/npm/commit/bd38304591043e7045e7a6c521f7de8b2417b461
[15:12] Clex: killfill: what gives you "cat ~ > /tmp/homecat ; file /tmp/homecat"
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[15:13] killfill:  /tmp/homecat: data
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[15:13] swilson06: odd, it works when i don't install globally.... guess that's why
[15:13] Clex: Well, that means it's binary.
[15:13] killfill: ok need to go sorry. meeting. thanks anyway!
[15:13] Clex: killfill: this is your bug.
[15:13] Clex: Have a nice meeting. :)
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[15:14] shinuza: killfill: file a bug :P
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[15:14] Clex: And tell your company to allow laptops + ssh during the meetings. :o
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[15:14] Clex: I could be in a meeting right now.
[15:14] shinuza: Clex: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657131
[15:15] Clex: I just lurk HN, I don't even have an account. :p
[15:15] JoseCabo: there are any way (Extension?) for making a GUI using node?
[15:16] shinuza: Clex: meh, are you in Paris?
[15:16] shinuza: JoseCabo: QT bindings?
[15:16] kohai: @alltop_java: Creating presentations with Node.js http://bit.ly/mkEnDB (link: http://javablogs.com/Jump.action)
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[15:21] kohai: @radishapp: Oooh, a realtime @instagram API demo using Node.js and Redis strings/lists: http://t.co/Yp9D6rh http://t.co/B64ExU4 (link: https://github.com/asalant/Realtime-Demo)
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[15:21] Clex: JoseCabo: you gave up on QT?
[15:21] Clex: shinuza: yup.
[15:21] Clex: :@
[15:21] Clex: QT sucks.
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[15:21] kohai: @indutny: Check this out: http://j.mp/kXRQOW a live SPDY node.js server! /cc @eee_c @3rdEden (link: https://spdy.indutny.com/)
[15:21] shinuza: :D
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[15:22] Clex: shinuza: is this the first meeting?
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[15:22] shinuza: Clex: HN meeting yes
[15:22] shinuza: not the first Javascript meeting
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[15:22] saschagehlich: rauchg: ping
[15:23] shinuza: there's one on the last wednesday of each month
[15:23] killfill: heh.. damn client is late 4 hours.. 
[15:23] Clex: Where is it?
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[15:23] killfill: who knows.. good things we are in the same building..
[15:23] Clex: killfill: =)
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[15:24] indutny:  https://spdy.indutny.com/
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[15:24] indutny: hey! can you try out this in chrome?
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[15:24] indutny: I mean @everyone
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[15:25] kohai: @alan_reid: working with node.js is a lot of fun
[15:25] slaskis: indutny: cool! you're finally done with it?
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[15:25] slaskis: it works for me, that payload thing is that one of those server push things?
[15:25] kzh: I have a method that will return a random property value from an object: `rand.choice(obj)`
[15:25] kzh: The name comes from the python random module http://docs.python.org/library/random.html
[15:25] kzh: I want to alias it to a more JavaScript name, what do you think it should be?
[15:25] indutny: slaskis: it's very close to specification, thanks to eee_c1 
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[15:26] indutny: slaskis: that server doesn't using server push
[15:26] slaskis: oh
[15:26] killfill: how do i revert a file with git?...
[15:26] indutny: slaskis: but it's implemented
[15:26] tbranyen: killfill: checkout
[15:26] Clex: killfill: git checkout
[15:26] kzh: `rand.propery(obj)`? or what about `rand.value(obj)` ?
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[15:26] slaskis: because i get two requests in network, one that's a 'payload request' which only contains 'hello from server'
[15:26] killfill: ah :)
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[15:27] tbranyen: kzh: whats wrong with choice?
[15:27] indutny: slaskis: :)
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[15:27] indutny: slaskis: hello from server is body of POST request
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[15:27] Clex: Btw killfill you shouldn't call it a "revert", a revert is after a commit imho.
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[15:28] slaskis: indutny: haha, i missed that one (duh!)
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[15:28] killfill: yah, sorry. im actually new to git.. :P
[15:28] kzh: tbranyen: idk, I guess nothing. py random also uses 'uniform(a, b)` for a random float... I have that as rand.uniform, but I was wondering if it should be rand.number or rand.float
[15:28] saschagehlich: rauchg: is there a way to kick a client from a socket.io server?
[15:29] mikeal: NodeConf SummerCamp tickets are still on sale http://www.nodeconf.com/summercamp.html
[15:29] kzh: If I am copying a module, then I guess, maybe I should keep the same naming conventions...
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[15:29] killfill: ok this is it: https://github.com/isaacs/npm/commit/9d8ea3f6730a1c08e776e7c61eb45e600624c99a
[15:30] kohai: @indutny: @ChromiumDev @paul_irish hey! check this out, a node.js SPDY server: https://spdy.indutny.com/ (Unrelated, but not spam :) )
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[15:30] quackquack: Anyone know if the nodeconf video up yet?
[15:30] mikeal: it's not
[15:30] killfill: sure.. are its null, parseIgnoreFiles is opening the directory name.. :P
[15:30] mikeal: they are working on it
[15:30] mikeal: i promise :)
[15:31] quackquack: K, im just impatient i guess :P
[15:31] CrabDude: kohai: just curious, has anyone used SPDY for an API server or something like that yet?
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[15:31] mikeal: same people did jsconf and nodeconf
[15:31] killfill: should i twit isaacs?.. :P
[15:31] mikeal: and gave us a great rate
[15:31] mikeal: but now they have a huge backlog
[15:31] CrabDude: i'd be curious to the speed increases
[15:31] killfill: Clex: you shold have the same problema on openbsd.. did you try lastes version of npm?
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[15:32] CoverSlide: induty has an spdy library for node
[15:33] Clex: I dont think node.js works on OpenBSD, sadly.
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[15:33] CoverSlide: it's not officially supported i dont think
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[15:34] CoverSlide: but i think it should still work
[15:34] mikeal: i would be surprised if you couldn't make node work on openbsd
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[15:35] kohai: @plainJavaScript: node.js - JavaScript pass scope to another function - Stack Overflow: http://t.co/1XmLTzR via @addthis (link: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6348852/javascript-pass-scope-to-another-function)
[15:35] Clex: It wasn't compiling last time I tried.
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[15:35] CoverSlide: i would love for node to lose the python dependency though
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[15:36] CoverSlide: although i suppose since v8 needs scons, that won't happen
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[15:37] killfill: did a new issue.
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[15:37] Clex: CoverSlide: yeah, that's too bad. :/
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[15:55] mendel_: indutny: confirm: it's working here
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[15:55] indutny: mendel_: thanks! :)
[15:55] mendel_: indutny: I've got it running too, how do you proxy it? 
[15:56] mendel_: I'm using nginx as proxy but that will probably not work with SPDY?
[15:56] indutny: mendel_: I'm not proxying it
[15:56] indutny: mendel_: I suppose, it won't work
[15:56] mendel_: so you're running it on port 80? ok
[15:56] indutny: mendel_: 443
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[15:57] kohai: @garrett: @awafaa: Perhaps it might be better to make the backend work on node.js now? You'd definitely get lots of volunteers that way. (:
[15:57] kohai: @zackyap: Wow. Node.js is perfect for writing multiplayer games...
[15:57] kohai: @indutny: @igrigorik Check this out: https://spdy.indutny.com/ a live node.js SPDY server (with NPN SSL extensions)
[15:58] kohai: @tiagoandrereis: If you haven't tried nodejs I highly recommended it. #nodejs
[15:58] kohai: @jfroma: @ajlopez yes, }I was wondering yesterday why there are so many attempts of node.js like in .net and no one used rx
[15:59] indutny: ryah: oh, hope server will survive that slashdot attack :D
[15:59] ryah: Clex: truss?
[16:00] ryah: indutny: :)
[16:00] kohai: @AndrewLowther: I just got wholly confused, and thought "Why is @OX_Bex tweeting about node.js and SPDY?" then I saw @indutny has the same avatar
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[16:01] Clex: Yeah ryah, forgot about it.
[16:02] kohai: @Outsider__: Ankur Blogoyal | Node.js is backwards http://ff.im/-FOPDg (link: http://blog.ankurgoyal.com/post/6433642218/node-js-is-backwards)
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[16:02] pquerna: indutny: it would be nice if it showeed you something differentif SPDY was used
[16:02] pquerna: (it looks like its the same page if http or spdy)
[16:03] indutny: pquerna: that's the feature :)
[16:03] indutny: pquerna: a transparent protocol switching
[16:03] CoverSlide: there's no spdy:// protocol?
[16:03] indutny: CoverSlide: SPDY is not a protocol , but a layer
[16:03] CoverSlide: oic
[16:03] indutny: CoverSlide: it's between TCP and HTTP
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[16:04] c4milo: indutny: I should see just one connection in my inspector if it's using spdy? 
[16:04] pquerna: indutny: well, i meant, if i view it in firefox, its the same as chrome, the only way i know its working is looking at net-internals... maybe on the page say, "Using SPDY: {Yes,No}"
[16:04] indutny: c4milo: nope, try about:net-internals instead
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[16:04] pquerna: chrome://net-internals/#spdy
[16:04] indutny: pquerna: yeah, that'll be cool... let me see if I can do that
[16:05] sctb: Is there a way, given a file foo.js which contains variable and function declarations, to run 'node foo.js' and get a REPL with access to those definitions?
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[16:05] indutny: pquerna: hm.. there is no option for that now
[16:06] indutny: pquerna: thanks for a tip, I'll implement it soon
[16:06] pigmej: hm
[16:06] pigmej: how to disable cache lookups for dns module?
[16:06] slaskis: indutny: your server is down now?
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[16:07] pquerna: indutny: just like the IPv6 turtle page :)
[16:07] indutny: slaskis: is it? :)
[16:07] slaskis: hmm, i'm writing like yoda
[16:07] slaskis: seems like it
[16:07] indutny: slaskis: I don't think so, pquerna can you confirm that my server is down?
[16:08] pquerna: commercial spdy server? wtf
[16:08] pquerna: lets port this to C and pair it with libuv :)
[16:08] indutny: pquerna: heh :)
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[16:09] c4milo: indutny: do you know a java library to uses spdy to request pages? 
[16:10] slaskis: indutny: strange, it works on another computer
[16:10] indutny: c4milo: nope, life is too short for java
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[16:10] slaskis: funny because it worked a few minutes ago
[16:10] c4milo: indutny: indeed haha
[16:10] indutny: slaskis: haha :) try opening incognito mode
[16:10] indutny: slaskis: if it'll work that's a broken connection
[16:10] indutny: so opening net-internals
[16:11] pquerna: "what cha gonna do when i replace your business modle with a C library?"
[16:11] indutny: and posting log to issues will be helpful
[16:11] indutny: pquerna: heh :) I'll be happy. I hadn't used google's C library b/c of gclient dependency
[16:12] indutny: slaskis: so any news?
[16:12] slaskis: indutny: yeah, it worked in incognito mode
[16:12] slaskis: indutny: sort off, no styles seems to load
[16:12] pquerna: yea, i'm just surprised by this strangeloop thing
[16:12] indutny: slaskis: that's very strange. Could you please open chrome://net-internals
[16:12] kohai: @gustavowt: #nodejs? esou me apaixonando.... iniciando #tdd com a ferramenta #expresso
[16:12] slaskis: woops now i got: ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR
[16:13] indutny: slaskis: and then request page and the press "Dump to text" and then post issue on github: https://github.com/indutny/node-spdy
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[16:13] indutny: slaskis: that means that channel got dirty
[16:13] indutny: slaskis: strange that it hasn't reconnected in case
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[16:14] slaskis: it seems to never close my connections, that first one is still there
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[16:14] slaskis: but i don't know, maybe that's a spdy feature?
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[16:14] indutny: slaskis: yep, it's using one connection for all stuff
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[16:15] slaskis: where is the request page?
[16:15] slaskis: on net-internals
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[16:17] MrGoodbyte: hello everyone, I m having a problem with close event of socket.
[16:17] MrGoodbyte: http://pastebin.com/SrXt05iN
[16:17] MrGoodbyte: I test it with telnet
[16:18] MrGoodbyte: it's ok with data event but close event doesnt work when I kill telnet
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[16:18] MrGoodbyte: Do I make it wrong?
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[16:20] kohai: @habralenta: Node.JS / [Ссылка] Live SPDY сервер на node.js http://bit.ly/mp96QF (link: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/nodejs/121918/)
[16:21] kohai: @CoffeeScript: @wardbell Node.js is supposed to run natively on Windows in just a few months, though. That should help a lot.
[16:22] kohai: @holyslon_news: Node.JS / [Ссылка] Live SPDY сервер на node.js: За последнюю неделю контрибьютерами проекта была добавлена подде... http://bit.ly/jyLWCV (link: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/nodejs/121918/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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[16:33] quackquack: Is there middleware for compiling client coffeescript with express/connect?
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[16:34] tiagoa: MrGoodbyte: what version you're using?
[16:34] kohai: @wesbos: new Node.js tutorial up. This one makes a slight at rails ;) http://bit.ly/iRVUkr (link: http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/node-js-step-by-step-blogging-application/)
[16:34] tiagoa: socket's verstion
[16:34] tiagoa: *version
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[16:37] pigmej: any way to do dns.resolve on remote dns ?
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[16:40] monokrome: Hmm...
[16:40] monokrome: I think that I'm having a socket.io issue here... http://monokro.me
[16:40] CoverSlide: client coffeescript?
[16:40] monokrome: Does anyone see a music player? (It wont autoplay)
[16:40] quackquack: CoverSlide: i got it figured out
[16:41] mt3ck_: monokrome, works for me
[16:41] monokrome: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/408287/
[16:41] monokrome: mt3ck_: The audio player is showing?
[16:41] mt3ck_: flac mp3 and ogg open in new link but it plays
[16:41] mt3ck_: new tab*
[16:41] monokrome: Oh, there should be an audio player in the top right that plays the entire album
[16:41] mt3ck_: nope
[16:42] monokrome: Right, that's the issue :(
[16:42] monokrome: There's a bunch of Socket.IO errors going on
[16:42] mt3ck_: =*(
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[16:46] indutny: pquerna: and so we are! :)
[16:46] indutny: pquerna: checkout new https://spdy.indutny.com
[16:47] indutny: pquerna: tada! :)
[16:47] addisonj: hrm... so I just started an app in production, and it says that connect.session() is not designed for production... so... what should I be using
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[16:47] monokrome: I think that maybe nginx can't stream websockets properly? :/
[16:48] addisonj: thats correct monokrome 
[16:48] addisonj: there is a patch somewhere that you can build with, but its apparently quite experimental
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[16:49] MrGoodbyte: tiagoa: I just installed the latest version of node.js on my ubuntu 11.04 I started to think that I m doing it wrong :\
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[16:49] samuelkadolph: nginx can only proxy with http/1.0
[16:49] tiagoa: and what is the socket's version?
[16:50] samuelkadolph: So no websockets
[16:50] kohai: @rstackhouse: @brianthecoder I was wondering on what your thoughts were regarding using node.js in a production setting.
[16:51] MrGoodbyte: by the way it's a simple net.socket server. I m kinda newbie in node.js but I dont think there is a different version for socket module?
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[16:51] MrGoodbyte: net module I mean
[16:51] monokrome: Still doesn't seem to work with a direct NodeJS server
[16:53] MrGoodbyte: tiagoa: you want me to put full source code on pastebin?
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[16:53] monokrome: Hmm... It is using xhr-polling instead of websockets on the server :(
[16:54] tiagoa: please
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[16:56] kohai: @adamretter: @ndw Sure JavaScript is the new overlord and node.js etc look cool
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[16:57] monokrome: Does anyone see the audio player now? Trying to see if it's just me, or if everyone gets forced into xhr-polling :/ http://monokro.me
[16:58] monokrome: weird
[16:58] kohai: @brianthecoder: @rstackhouse I think @technoweenie is the main guy working on node.js at @github
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[16:59] monokrome: I bet the socket.io websocket requires I open some port
[17:00] kohai: @HNTweets: A Live SPDY server running on node.js server: http://bit.ly/mKFlet Comments: http://bit.ly/iIlar9 (link: https://spdy.indutny.com/)
[17:00] MrGoodbyte: tiagoa: http://pastebin.com/NmtnsMDB
[17:00] indutny: omg, I can't understand how it's resisting that DDoS attacks! :)
[17:00] kohai: @stephenpope: SPDY Server on Node.js - https://github.com/indutny/node-spdy
[17:01] MrGoodbyte: it's a really basic socket example
[17:01] MrGoodbyte: but I can't get close event work 
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[17:01] tiagoa: hm
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[17:02] tiagoa: do you don't receive an error from socket.io in console?
[17:03] mendel_: which socket.io version are you running
[17:03] mendel_: the master @ github isn't complete yet
[17:03] MrGoodbyte: I dont use socket.io framework
[17:03] mendel_: ok, just read the last couple lines
[17:03] mendel_: my bad
[17:03] MrGoodbyte: but I installed the latest one a few hours ago
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[17:03] tiagoa: than, use it
[17:03] tiagoa: try
[17:03] CoverSlide: indutny: how many hits are you getting?
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[17:04] monokrome: reverting back to xhr-polling should still not break my site though
[17:04] monokrome: hmm
[17:04] MrGoodbyte: I ll give it a shot of course but you know that I m trying to learn how to work with node.js
[17:04] monokrome: (especially since the exact same code works locally)
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[17:04] MrGoodbyte: I just want to know why my code dont work 
[17:05] indutny: CoverSlide: I've no logging in front of it, so I don't know... but it's on HN and one russian IT tech blog site, anyway that's load is much bigger than what I'd produced in local environment
[17:05] MrGoodbyte: I mean I cant see anything wrong in source code somehow my function has no effect on close event
[17:05] MrGoodbyte: that 's why I said I started to think that I m doing it wrong (:
[17:05] tiagoa: it works when you send a data (on('data'))?
[17:05] MrGoodbyte: yes
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[17:06] MrGoodbyte: I'm trying to port my task server to node.js from python while I'm learning node.js
[17:07] MrGoodbyte: Actually I have ported some of the codes and works fine
[17:07] MrGoodbyte: but I cannot handle connection closing
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[17:14] monokrome: Do socket.io websockets use a different port?
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[17:15] kohai: @abdintarkmani: @mikeloukides nice read http://t.co/x6dS37M  #javascript with the development of node.js & HTML5 has a lot of potentials (link: http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/06/time-to-learn-javascript.html)
[17:15] monokrome: I've opened 80 and 843 (843 is for some SWF thing)
[17:15] monokrome: but still, I only get the xhr-polling backend
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[17:18] zmbmartin: tjholowaychuk: is connect-form async? When I upload a file the browser redirects before the upload and processing is done so the image doesn't load until I refresh again.
[17:18] Murvin: hi.. what should I do to keep my node running regardless my ssh terminal is off or not?     Use screen?
[17:19] tjholowaychuk: zmbmartin yes, it's just a wrapper around node-formidable
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[17:20] monokrome: Murvin: I use 'forever'. It's pretty helpful :)
[17:20] xerox: monokrome: how does it handle programs that throw terminating exceptions right after the start
[17:20] xerox: for a reason or another
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[17:22] monokrome: wtf. Firefox is using flashsocket, and Chrome is using xhr-polling
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[17:25] xerox: https://github.com/andreasgal/pdf.js
[17:25] xerox: wow?
[17:26] mikey_p: if it works that's pretty awesome
[17:26] zmbmartin: tjholowaychuk: so if I want to notify the client when the image is done processing is socket.io the way to go?
[17:26] tbranyen: mikey_p: well works is one thing... works well is another
[17:26] tbranyen: heh
[17:28] systemfault: Hmm, doesn't the SOP actually makes a js pdf viewer, useless?
[17:28] systemfault: (Even if it's a feat to have successfully written that)
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[17:34] pquerna: indutny: are you impementing v2 or v3 of the spdy spec?
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[17:36] kohai: @WebStartupGroup: StartupNews: A Live SPDY server running on node.js server  http://bit.ly/kBMIVb (link: https://spdy.indutny.com/)
[17:36] systemfault: Nice idea the sdpy server :D
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[17:38] kohai: @welkaim: Creating presentations with Node.js « Gridshore http://t.co/zYzLXja via @feedly (link: http://www.gridshore.nl/2011/06/15/creating-presentations-with-node-js/)
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[17:43] kohai: @dathanvp: mySQL  DBA: Building a realtime Feed with RabbitMQ Node.js AMQ... http://t.co/kpBARLc #nodejs #amqp #rabbitmq #mysql #memcache #scale (link: http://mysqldba.blogspot.com/2011/06/building-realtime-feed-with-rabbitmq.html?spref=tw)
[17:43] kohai: @NodeJSAtSO: Horizontal scaling of node.js server instances on a single machine http://bit.ly/lwUQ5S (link: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6361776/horizontal-scaling-of-node-js-server-instances-on-a-single-machine?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
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[17:46] kohai: @kalimbahn: A Live SPDY server running on node.js server http://goo.gl/fb/BJlmX #hackernews #kalimba (link: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Kalimba/~3/oLn-0jLXV0s/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=kalimbahn)
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[17:49] kohai: @orospakr: Slides form my #nodejs talk for #linuxsymposium: http://t.co/OzLU1A7 (link: http://orospakr.ca/stuff/nodejs_talk_ols2011/src/nodejs_talk.html)
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[17:53] kohai: @RobRobbins: Why does #jsctags error with the newest #nodejs? A implementation of with?
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[17:55] Dinosaurus: can anyone see a reason why this would not be writing bytes correctly? https://gist.github.com/58bd7f3d7b22cc703da3
[17:56] Dinosaurus: it's ripping data from a tcp stream
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[17:56] Dinosaurus: it writes the correct # of bytes
[17:56] Dinosaurus: but does not seem to match the original file
[17:56] Dinosaurus: and the songs have some distortions
[17:56] sayu: Hi, Can someone recommend some tutorials to learn node?
[17:57] Dinosaurus: you can test it by like "sudo node app.js wlan0"
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[17:57] Dinosaurus: which will begin listening on your device
[17:58] Dinosaurus: and you can test it by playing a song from grooveshark.com
[17:58] tbranyen: Dinosaurus: like your nick
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[17:58] Dinosaurus: thanks xD
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[17:59] Dinosaurus: i think it is me misunderstanding writestream
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[18:01] BigWookie: :O why did npm change the installation dir, and what is the appropiate way to make it work with the latest node version
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[18:01] BigWookie: (global installation dir )
[18:01] Dinosaurus: npm install -g blah
[18:02] fly-away: hoi
[18:02] BigWookie: i know that, but the path changed from prefix/lib/node to prefix/lib/node_modules and that is not per default in the require.paths
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[18:03] Dinosaurus: idk, i don't do global installs
[18:03] CIA-94: node: 03Mark Cavage 07v0.4 * r7c51275 10/ src/node_crypto.cc : Cleanup crypto verify to not print unnecessary errors - http://bit.ly/jHM4Ey
[18:04] Skola: If I were to present a commented/annotated piece of code on a blog, is there any way of presenting it _other than just the whole thing all at once_ that would benefit my readers?
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[18:05] Dinosaurus: o.o not sure what mean
[18:06] fly-away: hi
[18:06] telemachus: Skola: Depending on how long it was, I would tend to put code without comments then discussion - or maybe Docco?
[18:06] Skola: like chop it up in chunks or something like that
[18:06] Skola: I was thinking Docco
[18:06] fly-away: how can I parse html under nodejs?
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[18:06] fly-away: into dom I mean
[18:06] Dinosaurus: use jquery ? :D
[18:06] telemachus: Skola: I find that pretty readable
[18:06] Skola: but I kinda rolled my own use of pygments
[18:06] CoverSlide: jsdom
[18:07] Skola: ofc I shouldn't reinvent the wheel
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[18:07] fly-away: CoverSlide, is it fast?
[18:07] telemachus: fly-away: jsdom
[18:07] Skola: but the blog is also design oriented
[18:07] telemachus: ?
[18:07] Skola: so I'd like to come up with a site-wide solution that looks pretty
[18:07] Dinosaurus: in that case add some dropshadows
[18:07] CoverSlide: it's kinda the go-to library for your problem
[18:07] Skola: lol Dino
[18:07] Dinosaurus: some sweet gradients n stuff :d
[18:08] Skola: my site will have about 15 CSS rules
[18:08] Skola: kinda ascetic
[18:08] kohai: @kadirpekel: coffee stack with coffeegrind http://t.co/rDNp4mK #nodejs (link: https://github.com/twilson63/coffeegrind)
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[18:09] kohai: @AndrewLowther: @JoshNursing I may well do, my first experience was not a pleasant one, using the node.js beacon push api, which is written in coffee...
[18:09] Dinosaurus: i love getting twitter spammed in my face when i'm not on twitter
[18:09] Skola: kohai?
[18:09] Dinosaurus: ye
[18:09] Skola: (I can't see cus /ignore)
[18:09] Dinosaurus: ah good idea :D
[18:09] mahna: ignore++
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[18:10] kohai: @YCHackerNews: A Live SPDY server running on node.js server: Comments:
[18:10] mahna: whoops
[18:10] Skola: ignore++
[18:10] v8bot:  ignore is getting too many beers.  Don't let ignore get drunk!
[18:11] Murvin: hi..  i m using ab to load test my node.js .   my unlimit  opne files is 2500.  but I can only do 1024 concurrent level for ab.   if I change to 1025, it fails.  is 1024 the max concurrent for ab?  or how can I increase the max?
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[18:11] lukegalea: Murvin: I just wrote something in node to test.
[18:11] lukegalea: I'm pretty sure ab will fail before your node app ;)
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[18:12] Murvin: well. i try anything below 1024 concurrency, it works.  ab can run and give a nice report.  but if i do more than 1024 (even ulimit is higher than that), ab fails. lol
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[18:13] Murvin: but I know node can do more than that.  but just don't know how to make ab take more concurrent level.
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[18:14] mendel_: indutny: your spdy test server is down
[18:14] mendel_: https://spdy.indutny.com/
[18:14] mendel_: too much traffic from YCHackerNews? :p
[18:15] kohai: @basav: Node.js From the Enterprise #Java Perspective http://zite.to/lZ27yi (link: http://blog.shinetech.com/?p=394)
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[18:18] kohai: @zeit_geist: still waiting for hipster OS -- the OS purpose-built for Node.js
[18:20] kohai: @newsyc20: A Live SPDY server running on node.js server https://spdy.indutny.com/ (http://bit.ly/lDhQeJ) (link: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657809)
[18:20] kohai: @jschairb: #lazytwitter re: node.js if I use express.js, am I doing it wrong?
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[18:21] kohai: @sogrady: no joy yet getting Calipso running on my no.de SmartMachine. though i at least managed to reset my node.js version.
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[18:25] BigWookie: anyone seen this before node-expat.node: undefined symbol: ev_rt_now ?
[18:26] BigWookie: v0.5.0-pre
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[18:27] baudehlo: don't use v0.5
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[18:28] Marak: BigWookie: try downgrading to the lastest stable node version?
[18:28] BigWookie: thought master is stable
[18:28] Marak: BigWookie: why would you think the HEAD release is stable?
[18:29] Marak: BigWookie: node uses even / odd versions, so 0.4.x is the stable branch
[18:29] BigWookie: because i'm naive?
[18:29] Marak: the release where everyone is checking in 0-day code is gonna not be stable by definition 
[18:29] halfhalo: lies
[18:30] Marak: top of the morning to ya
[18:30] BigWookie: i would create a devel branch
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[18:30] Marak: BigWookie: hold on i have something for this
[18:30] tmpvar: lol
[18:30] tmpvar: drum roll
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[18:31] Marak: BigWookie: http://i.imgur.com/CQhpA.png
[18:31] slickplaid: lol
[18:31] Marak: BigWookie: or better yet, http://i.imgur.com/Nz870.png ! :-p
[18:31] tmpvar: hah, thats what i thought you were going to use first
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[18:32] BigWookie: xD If you read carefully i never complained ;)
[18:33] Marak: BigWookie: i'm just joshing with you :p
[18:33] Marak: BigWookie: i think we need to make it more clear that master isnt gonna be stable
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[18:33] Marak: lots of people hit that
[18:34] systemfault: node.js would need a repo service for popular distros..
[18:34] systemfault: Nobody likes to compile.
[18:34] systemfault: jetienne has been kind enough to make a PPA for ubuntu.. but nobody knows about it
[18:35] BigWookie: Marak: I fully understand you if few times a day an idiot runs in and asks why nothing works :P
[18:35] tmpvar: there are no idiots here
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[18:37] Marak: except Calvin he's a retard
[18:37] BigWookie: xD
[18:37] Marak: Calvin: do you like cookies?
[18:37] Marak: ohh he's quiet today
[18:37] Skola: Calvin Calvin
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[18:37] Skola: Sup with him?
[18:37] Marak: !insult Calvin 
[18:37] kohai: Calvin smells of elderberry wine!
[18:37] Calvin: Marak apostrophe's incorrectly in insults.
[18:37] CoverSlide: .. "I'm a retard"
[18:37] Calvin: 03"I'm a retard"
[18:37] Marak: .. "cake"
[18:37] Calvin: 03'cake'
[18:37] BigWookie: ROFL
[18:37] Skola: .. Calvin
[18:37] Calvin: ReferenceError: Calvin is not defined
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[18:38] BigWookie: xD why do you insult calvin?
[18:38] Skola: y not? he's a ho
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[18:39] kohai: @enotionz: Just got my Joyent Node.js smartmachine to play with. Now I need a project idea.
[18:39] BigWookie: should've looked before xD bot
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[18:47] BigWookie: downgraded to v 4.8 :) now it works, thanks
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[18:51] mraleph: piscisaureus: pong
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[18:51] kohai: @Super_Sid: After #XMPP im trying to find a favorite in #NodeJs or #EventMachine
[18:51] piscisaureus: mraleph: you are magic
[18:51] piscisaureus: how did you know i pinged you?
[18:51] mraleph: piscisaureus: in what sense?
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[18:51] mraleph:  piscisaureus: ah
[18:52] mraleph: I have a small bot that monitors the logs produced by Felix's bot for words like v8 and mraleph
[18:52] piscisaureus: hehe :-)
[18:52] piscisaureus: mraleph: but to the point, can you explain to me what 'MarkIndependent' does
[18:53] piscisaureus: I found the comment in v8.h rather confusing
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[18:53] mraleph: non independent handles die only on major (full) collections
[18:53] piscisaureus: under what circumstances does this allow us to have a WeakCallback and still have the object scavenge-able
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[18:54] piscisaureus: Is that the only difference?
[18:54] mraleph: independent handles can't participate in Object Groups
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[18:54] mraleph: but node does not use object groups API 
[18:54] piscisaureus: ... which is a feature that I've never heard of ...
[18:54] mraleph: so yes it is the only difference
[18:55] piscisaureus: oh, cool
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[18:55] mraleph: this is for the best that you've not heard about this evil API
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[18:56] mraleph: so you should probably just mark all nodes ObjectWrap handles as independent
[18:56] piscisaureus: mraleph: for ObjectWrap we are not using that api at all any more. We kill them explicitly.
[18:56] piscisaureus: mraleph: but we need to solve this for buffers
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[18:57] mraleph: ok
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[18:58] bradleymeck__: isaacs you about?
[18:58] piscisaureus: mraleph: is it possible to have a really efficient callback type (e.g. it does make gc to run twice etc) at the expense of not allowing heap access from the callback?
[18:58] piscisaureus: I mean, just call the callback whenever the heap slot gets freed or something like that?
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[18:59] mraleph: you mean weak callback?
[18:59] mraleph: yes
[18:59] mraleph: but that would require API rework.
[18:59] piscisaureus: what kind of rework?
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[19:00] mraleph: well basically someone needs to introduce a weak callback that can't touch V8 at all.
[19:00] mraleph: it's not a rework but rather an extension.
[19:01] piscisaureus: mraleph: well you can't really prevent the user from touching v8. You just need to specify that it is not allowed.
[19:01] mraleph: yep that's what I meant
[19:01] piscisaureus: (just like you can't do that from the gc epilogue callback)
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[19:02] piscisaureus: mraleph: because usually what we want to do from the callback is just delete some C++ object
[19:02] mraleph: yeah
[19:02] piscisaureus: If I wanted to do that, where would I start?
[19:04] piscisaureus: Hooking into the code where heap slots are juggled seems to be rather invasive
[19:04] AAA_awright: bibabot: I'm working on one for RDF data, there's at least one other CMS project in progress
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[19:05] mraleph: well global-handles.cc then look at how it interacts with garbage collection then fix it :-) 
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[19:05] mraleph: it's pretty hairy
[19:05] piscisaureus: mraleph: I thought about having a separate list of "sparse" handles that do count as a gc root
[19:05] piscisaureus: after the mark phace we iterate over all the sparse handles and check whether they reference an unmarked object
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[19:06] mraleph: yep
[19:06] piscisaureus: if that's the case, dispose and call the callback
[19:06] sinke: hi noders :)
[19:06] mraleph: but that would basically replicate some of the functionality available in global-handles.cc :-)
[19:06] bibabot: AAA_awright: great .. anywhere i can see it?
[19:06] piscisaureus: mraleph: well
[19:07] piscisaureus: currently it seens that Weak handles take 2 rounds of gc to be cleaned up
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[19:07] mraleph: yep
[19:07] sinke: i have to process 10000 (thousand more less) client requests in a 5 seconds, should i do that with node.. im stuck on win2008 , node works just fine on it
[19:07] tbranyen: sinke: upgrade to linux
[19:08] sinke: tbranyen.. cant
[19:08] tuhoojabotti: mo
[19:08] tbranyen: sinke: i hate that word
[19:08] sinke: question is about node, not about os
[19:08] piscisaureus: mraleph: these hooks are all after the GC is completely done. So adding this fast-weak logic there would be no good, I want to have these callbacks made halfway in the gc, so we don't require two rounds
[19:08] tbranyen: well see... thats where you're wrong
[19:09] tbranyen: sinke: i dunno try out the latest node build that has libuv
[19:09] mraleph: piscisaureus: I understand that
[19:09] Skola: he's not on win08 voluntarily I'm guessing
[19:09] tbranyen: Skola: well yeah, but i'm assuming node would be used volunatarily
[19:09] Murvin: monokrome: what is "forever"?  do u have the website that I can take a look?
[19:09] tbranyen: since nobody would demand to run node on windows
[19:09] sinke: i have to figure out how to do it on win08.. thats all :)
[19:09] tbranyen: i'd hope
[19:09] sinke: node works just fine on windows
[19:10] tbranyen: "just fine"
[19:10] tbranyen: it worked like shit last time i tried it in cygwin
[19:10] tbranyen: mingw is probably no better
[19:10] Skola: just windows doesn't work fine :[]
[19:10] sinke: Skola :)
[19:10] Skola: jaja I'm messing around :p
[19:10] sinke: i dont try it in cygwin.. is installed as win service
[19:10] mraleph: piscisaureus: basically what you want to do is to IdentifyWeakHandles and call callbacks immediately without doing additional round of processing to preserve weakly reachable objects 
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[19:11] kohai: @zephrax: #nodejs #zombie if someone cannot install zombie using "NPM" try this solution https://github.com/assaf/zombie/issues/143
[19:11] mraleph: piscisaureus: might be a tad hard to do that from inside markcompact collector as objects have (temporararily) corrupted headers there but doable (in a hack and slash way).
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[19:13] Murvin: how to set the max % of CPU node can use?
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[19:13] Murvin: sometimes it will take up to 95%.  which is kinda scary.
[19:14] Murvin: although no fail.
[19:14] eazyigz: Hi, can somebody recommend a good templating engine that I can create a simple analytics webpage with?  I have tried CoffeeKup, but it has a bug in rendering html tables.  I have looked at Mustache, HandleBars, Jade, etc., but am unsure which one will be the easiest
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[19:14] Murvin: I use jqtpl
[19:14] jhurliman: eazyigz, my vote is with jade
[19:14] gf3: Jade
[19:14] Murvin: eazyigz: I use jqtpl
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[19:15] slaskis: eazyigz: i like ejs
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[19:15] eazyigz: Murvin: jqtpl doesn't have great documentation and examples
[19:15] eazyigz: jade does look very straightforward for a one-page thing I am building...
[19:16] piscisaureus: mraleph: what do you mean by "corrupted headers" -- what is corrupted exactly?
[19:16] Skola: Jade rox0rs jawohl
[19:16] slaskis: eazyigz: this one: https://github.com/visionmedia/ejs not the clunky embeddedjs.com one
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[19:16] Skola: for a one page-something I'd def. go with jade
[19:16] Murvin: eazyigz: I agree. but the syntax is simplier than Jade.     i feel...
[19:16] bloodsucker_: Hello to everybodyyyyyy
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[19:17] Murvin: so, anyone know how to limit the % of CPU node can use?
[19:17] bloodsucker_: Murvin, 100%??
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[19:18] JoseCabo: Murvin, 100% should could use.
[19:18] slaskis: Murvin: like http://cpulimit.sourceforge.net/ ?
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[19:18] JoseCabo: Murvin, ah, sorry, slaskis 
[19:18] JoseCabo: Murvin, you should use cpulimit, yes.
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[19:19] Murvin: bloodsucker_: well.  for massive requests, it will go up to 95% or something like that. I want to limit it to only take upto 80%.  I don't mind the request processing time being a bit slow.  
[19:19] jbergstroem: Murvin: use renice ?
[19:19] Murvin: JoseCabo:  cpulimit?
[19:19] Murvin: let me take a look now
[19:19] mraleph: piscisaureus: well. the first words of the objects is a tagged pointer to a Map (aka hidden class) during normal execution
[19:19] mraleph: piscisaureus: but during marksweep gc we remove tag to indicate marked object
[19:19] JoseCabo: yes, Murvin cpulimut, you can adjust how many % of cpu could use a process.
[19:20] JoseCabo: sudo apt-get install cpulimit :P
[19:20] mraleph: piscisaureus: so everything goes BADABOOM if you use getters/setters that rely on properly tagged map pointer
[19:20] JoseCabo: and then man cpulimit or directly cpulimit without args for help.
[19:20] kohai: @Immunda: npm installer is silly; "it worked if it ends with ok" - "not ok"; still ends with ok. Pedantic? yes. #nodejs
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[19:20] mraleph: piscisaureus: Y U NO ASK THIS QUESTIONS IN PERSON? :-) 
[19:21] piscisaureus: mraleph: yeah sorry. We had a quite extensive discussion about this after you went :-/
[19:21] Murvin: JoseCabo:  Thanks a lot.   :D
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[19:21] piscisaureus: mraleph: It would have helped, yeah
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[19:21] JoseCabo: You are welcome.
[19:21] jbergstroem: Murvin: not sure i see the problem. you're on multicore and that's just one cpu - right? what other processes get shunned while this takes 100%? renice it to low prio and the cpu scheduler will take care of that much better
[19:22] jbergstroem: s/cpu/core
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[19:22] mraleph: piscisaureus: I should have booked a train on monday. silly me.
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[19:22] idefine: how can I handle a lost connection to mongodb from expressjs (currently a lost connection will crash the app), is there a better way to handle this and other issues, so that only the requests fail, not the entire app? Thanks.
[19:22] piscisaureus: mraleph: yeah, it's easy in hindsight. I should have booked a train on tuesday :-)
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[19:23] mendel_: idefine: you're familiar with try/catch?
[19:23] Murvin: jbergstroem: I onlly run node.js on my server. However, my manager will freak out if I show him that node will take 95% CPU.  although I know there is no problem at all. lol
[19:24] piscisaureus: mraleph: the discussions we had on sunday night made me realized how fucked up it is that not a single note contributor understands what's going on in the VM.
[19:24] piscisaureus: mraleph: so I'm going to spend time with it and make sure I get to know.
[19:24] Murvin: jberstroem: in fact, for production, if my program goes over 90% cpu, everyone will get email alert. lol  i don't want this happen. :)  but thanks for the advice ^^
[19:25] mraleph: piscisaureus: :-)
[19:25] jbergstroem: Murvin: 95% cpu for how long? a "ls -al" can just as well grab those 100% if conditions are met
[19:25] mraleph: piscisaureus: don't hesitate to ask :-)
[19:25] mendel_: Murvin: what are you using for that notification? monit?
[19:25] jbergstroem: murvin: i think you're measuring the wrong way here
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[19:27] piscisaureus: mraleph: thanks :-). Understanding the gc process is kinda doable so far. I fear the optimizing compiler though.
[19:27] mraleph: :-)
[19:27] AAA_awright: bibabot: Of course, it's not even close to being stable yet, but http://magnode.org/
[19:28] mraleph: piscisaureus: http://youtu.be/Tpy_pYXSpPA
[19:28] idefine: mendel_: yes, are you recommending wrapping all my requests in try catch blocks....
[19:29] piscisaureus: mraleph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZobEFbCsuM
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[19:29] idefine: mendel_: is there anyway to catch errors that have bubbled up to some event emitted by express? (just speculating)
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[19:31] piscisaureus: mraleph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-wGMlSuX_c <-- better
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[19:35] podman: is the a preferred workflow for supporting both SSL and non SSL connections in one app using expressjs?
[19:36] mraleph: piscisaureus: ok I think that killed my work mood for the rest of the day :-)
[19:36] piscisaureus: mraleph: ah, the rest of the day :-)
[19:37] c4milo: idefine: process.on('uncaughtException', function (err) {
[19:37] c4milo:   console.log('Caught exception: ' + err);
[19:37] c4milo: });
[19:37] c4milo:  ? 
[19:38] Murvin: 95% as long as I am running ab testing
[19:38] Murvin: and I m just use Top
[19:38] mraleph: piscisaureus: http://youtu.be/XHosLhPEN3k
[19:39] quackquack: tjholowaychuk: is there a way to use coffeescript in the place of javascript in Jade (following `-` and `=`)
[19:39] tjholowaychuk: quackquack who knows
[19:39] tjholowaychuk: not something im interested in
[19:39] idefine: c4milo: yes, while that that will prevent the app from crashing i'm no longer in the context of the request that just came in..so I wouldn't be able to send some kind of failed response to the server would I? Also, there isn't must detail about the error at that point is there?
[19:39] piscisaureus: :-)) :-))
[19:39] softdrink: 
ACTION can see tjholowaychuk foaming at the mouth now

[19:39] softdrink: ¬¬
[19:40] quackquack: ah, not a fan of coffeescript. o well
[19:40] podman: does it make sense to just put nginx in front of my node.js server as a reverse-proxy to easily support http and https connections?
[19:40] Murvin: tjholowaychuk:  hey, I have sent you a message b4 about socket. and I found out there is a real problem with socket when doing http.request
[19:40] tjholowaychuk: Murvin ah i see
[19:40] softdrink: throwing nginx in front of node seems to be pretty popular.  just an observation
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[19:41] tbranyen: softdrink: probably good for static stuff
[19:41] podman: softdrink: it does, although i'm not particularly sure why
[19:41] tmpvar: not good for websockets, unfortunately
[19:42] mendel_: node-http-proxy supports websickets right?
[19:42] tmpvar: yes
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[19:43] telemachus: Skola: /win 4
[19:43] telemachus: grr
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[19:44] podman: hmm, maybe i'll use node-http-proxy instead then
[19:44] podman: still seems like a lot of layers
[19:45] podman: load balancer -> node-http-proxy -> actual app
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[19:45] podman: and yet another thing to monitor
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[19:45] tmpvar: node-http-proxy does basic round-robin load balancing afaik
[19:45] c4milo: idefine: yes, there won't be context. And so you can't send any response back with that error because it was possible already sent it 
[19:46] podman: i'm not actually going to use it as a load balancer though
[19:46] huhlig-work: can anyone tell me why this is crashing? http://pastebin.com/XDVLADLj
[19:46] podman: i'm using zeus
[19:46] bibabot: AAA_awright: .. what rdf are you using ? .. (i installed rfdstore via npm .. its not that i think!?)
[19:46] c4milo: idefine: what I usually do to catch exceptions and send back so nice message to the user is try/catch in the service layer (expressjs for me) 
[19:47] AAA_awright: bibabot: I'm using my own libraries... I'm not aware of any other RDF packages
[19:47] kohai: @devko_de: Node.JS + Redis = Link Crawling | devko.de http://bit.ly/kz6Yr1 (link: http://www.devko.de/2011/06/15/node-js-redis-link-crawling/)
[19:47] idefine: c4milo: I too am using express, however, I'm not sure where you are placing your try catch? in each request?
[19:47] c4milo: idefine: I'll show you 
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[19:48] podman: but this would seem to do the trick
[19:48] bibabot: AAA_awright: look at http://search.npmjs.org/  rdf  there are a couple..
[19:48] podman: https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-http-proxy/blob/master/examples/proxy-https-to-https.js
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[19:48] AAA_awright: Mhm
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[19:48] idefine: ah, there is an app.error didn't know that first of all...should set that up first
[19:48] AAA_awright: bibabot: See https://github.com/Acubed/sparql-spin-js3 and  https://github.com/Acubed/node-rdf
[19:49] podman: bah. my certs are probably going to expire soon. how annoying
[19:49] AAA_awright: I don't actually use SPARQL either, I use SPIN representations of SPARQl
[19:49] AAA_awright: bibabot: Are you familiar with RDF?
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[19:50] etaty: there is a little problem with the instruction to install node.js (step 3a)
[19:50] c4milo: idefine: https://gist.github.com/1027940
[19:51] bibabot: AAA_awright: no.. not really.. 
[19:51] idefine: c4milo: would it not make sense to have each route actually be wrapped in a try catch block then?
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[19:53] c4milo: idefine: that works too 
[19:53] etaty: because after installing npm and some modules in global, the node_modules directory will be in ~/local/node/lib/node_modules. But the default path go to ~/.node_modules |  ~/.node_libraries | ~/local/node/lib/node
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[19:54] c4milo: idefine: I don't know how it would perform though since the try/catch block involves much more code 
[19:54] JoseCabo: etaty, what problem you have?
[19:55] JoseCabo: etaty, ah.
[19:55] idefine: c4milo: well, all i want is to make sure my entire app doesn't fail, just because one request went wrong, currently i'm using mongoose, and if the conneciton to my db is lost, the entire app dies
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[19:56] c4milo: idefine: yeah that should be fine along with process.on('uncaughtException', fn(){});
[19:56] c4milo: idefine: you can also use upstart or monit to keep your service up 
[19:56] c4milo: idefine: or to respawn it 
[19:57] etaty: it's not a problem but i think it will confuse the news users.
[19:57] c4milo: idefine: github.com/learnboost/cluster even will be helpful in this regard 
[19:58] JoseCabo: etaty, anyway i install all npm modules in sudo dir.
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[19:59] mscdex: node.js rules!
[19:59] mscdex: Calvin: do you work yet?
[19:59] Marak: !insult mscdex 
[19:59] kohai: mscdex smells of elderberry wine!
[19:59] Calvin: mscdex named or will name their child Chord
[19:59] etaty: isaacs : will you make some standardization ? (put the npm global directory in the require.path of node.js)
[19:59] xerox: rule number 1: never talk about nodejs
[19:59] Marak: Calvin: How are you?
[19:59] mscdex: calvin!!!
[20:00] mscdex: i think he's partially borked
[20:00] mscdex: or something
[20:00] MooGoo: .talk hey whatup bro
[20:00] Calvin: whatup bro
[20:00] mscdex: !
[20:00] mscdex: that's no fun
[20:00] MooGoo: those nazis over at ##javascript were complaining
[20:00] MooGoo: I know :(
[20:00] mscdex: well who needs them?
[20:01] MooGoo: yo calvin fuck those guys
[20:01] Calvin: those requires, and then have all the money in the world the bullshits that I have after running cluster is coming soon, that will really help workflow fuck
[20:01] mscdex: hah
[20:01] mscdex: he's angry his workflow is going to improve
[20:02] mscdex: i hate when that happens
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[20:02] MooGoo: I cant get work done if I'm not angry as fuck
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[20:02] MooGoo: it's the only way to code
[20:02] taf2:  screw you
[20:02] MooGoo: !insult taf2 
[20:02] Calvin: taf2 got eaten by the dogs he was taking care of
[20:02] MooGoo: interesting
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[20:04] etaty: JoseCabo: i wanted to avoid sudo ... now i need to do require.path.push()
[20:05] JoseCabo: I think the useof path.push() isn't recomended.
[20:05] JoseCabo: I think. etaty .
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[20:06] mscdex: etaty: i think node looks in ./node_modules first
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[20:07] etaty: > console.log(require.paths) => [ '/home/valerian/.node_modules',  '/home/valerian/.node_libraries',  '/home/valerian/local/node/lib/node' ]
[20:08] idefine: c4milo: thanks, I check out those resources. Is there a better way to catch an error when mongoose has lost it's connection to mongodb? currently it's not bubbling this error up to any error handlers in my callbacks.
[20:08] dans: im having trouble installing expresso with npm, i get command not found: expresso
[20:09] c4milo: idefine: I don't know, better to ask guillermo rauch or someone from learnboost
[20:09] mscdex: etaty: right, but require looks in ./node_modules first iirc, it does that in the code for require itself
[20:09] systemfault: When I util.inherits from EventEmitter, do I need to call its constructor in the constructor?
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[20:09] mscdex: systemfault: you should
[20:09] mscdex: systemfault: just to be safe
[20:10] systemfault: I see a lot of example doing this.. but it seems that in node's own http client.. It doesn't :/
[20:10] systemfault: Ah ok
[20:10] xerox: what is the Correct Way to create an EventEmitter object
[20:10] xerox: tailored to ones' own needs
[20:10] mscdex: xerox: var ee = new EventEmitter(); ?
[20:11] mscdex: ee.emit('lol');
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[20:11] xerox: uuh
[20:11] xerox: I mean constructing the means to create new objects :x
[20:11] xerox: a constructor function, that is
[20:11] mscdex: xerox: you mean an existing object inheriting from EventEmitter?
[20:12] xerox: the node-irc library for example does function Client (..) { ...; process.EventEmitter.call(this) } and util.inherits(Client,process.EventEmitter)
[20:12] c4milo: xerox: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.8/api/all.html#util.inherits
[20:12] xerox: which I would have never thought of
[20:12] xerox: !
[20:12] mscdex: xerox: yeah, except it's not process.EventEmitter anymore
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[20:12] xerox: what does that entail
[20:13] xerox: I want to make my objects respond to custom events and do stuff that a general EventEmitter doesn't do anyway
[20:13] huhlig-work: can someone tell me why node.js keeps getting a socket hang up exception from this code http://pastebin.com/3YD1aqVn ?
[20:13] xerox: c4milo: is there any document that explains why that is the way?
[20:13] mscdex: xerox: var EE = require('events').EventEmitter; function Client() { /* ... */ EE.call(this); } util.inherits(Client, EE);
[20:14] c4milo: xerox: is it enough the official documentation? 
[20:14] mscdex: xerox: who is emitting the custom events?
[20:14] xerox: do you know why that is the way? or where I can read the answer?
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[20:14] c4milo: xerox: what don't you understand? 
[20:14] xerox: c4milo: if you mean the Event module documentation on nodejs.org no
[20:14] xerox: it just says how EventEmitter works
[20:14] c4milo: xerox: I mean http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.8/api/all.html#util.inherits 
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[20:15] xerox: ok
[20:15] c4milo: xerox: that's the way you can create objects that has the behavior of EventEmitter 
[20:15] dans: im having trouble installing expresso with npm, i get 'command not found: expresso' - anyone else had this problem?
[20:15] xerox: I didn't click because I thought it was another very dry piece of docs, just telling you what the arguments of the function are :)
[20:15] isaacs: dans: npm install -g for cli scripts
[20:16] mendel_: dans: npm install expresso -g
[20:16] c4milo: xerox: basically, a) calling the super constructor (EventEmitter.call(this)) and b) copying over EventEmitter properties into your object (util.inherits.blabla) 
[20:16] dans: thanks
[20:16] dans: why does it not say that in the docs then?
[20:16] mendel_: older npm
[20:16] xerox: c4milo: why does the code I was looking at do it at the end of the constructor function definition?
[20:17] isaacs: dans: npm 0.x was global-by-default
[20:17] dans: ah ok
[20:17] c4milo: xerox: what code? 
[20:17] xerox: hang on
[20:17] isaacs: dans: you could also add "./node_modules/.bin" to your PATH env
[20:17] isaacs: dans: and then you'd find it if you were in the folder
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[20:18] xerox: c4milo: https://github.com/martynsmith/node-irc/blob/master/lib/irc.js#L791
[20:18] xerox: c4milo: what stumped me and prompted me to ask here is that it uses self.addListener *before* the EE constructor call, and the util.inherits call
[20:18] xerox: I am definitely missing something!
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[20:20] c4milo: xerox: well, that's an ugly piece of code 
[20:20] dans: nah its fine, the -g param worked
[20:20] dans: thanks
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[20:21] xerox: c4milo: ah so it is
[20:21] c4milo: xerox: it works because v8 uses JIT 
[20:21] xerox: I would love to see a Nice piece of code or read a written explanation of how it is meant to be done
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[20:21] c4milo: xerox: it isn't interpreted line by line 
[20:21] c4milo: xerox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation 
[20:22] c4milo: xerox: tjholowaychuk  writes pretty decent code 
[20:22] xerox: just in time, pretty transparent
[20:22] xerox: 
ACTION adds github.com in front of that name

[20:22] xerox: newp.
[20:22] c4milo: xerox: https://github.com/visionmedia/
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[20:25] etaty: isaacs: can you comment about my messages (starting 40mn ago) ?
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[20:27] xerox: c4milo: can't find something relevant hmm
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[20:28] xerox: oh maybe log
[20:28] xerox: https://github.com/visionmedia/log.js/blob/master/lib/log.js
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[20:30] idefine: c4milo: i think the error that I'd like to catch is actually a bug in the native mongodb driver, i think I should have a fix for that though, so that a notConnected error does bubble up.
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[20:30] idefine: c4milo: thanks again for all the help, will definitely be implementing some of those in practice :)
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[20:31] tmm1: isaacs: hey can you tag the 1.0.12 release on github
[20:32] isaacs: done
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[20:32] tmm1: thanks
[20:33] c4milo: idefine: you're welcome 
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[20:34] idefine: c4milo: do you happen to know if it's possible to set a listener for errors thrown? kinda like process.on, except for something like that notConnected error? that way I can try and do a reconnect
[20:35] jscheel: hey guys, I'm having an issue with my express install on my production server. So, on my dev env, everything is fine, but as soon as I push to production, only the first level of static files are served. If any static file is in a subdir, it doesn't get treated as static
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[20:36] c4milo: idefine: no that I know, what version of mongoose are you using? 
[20:36] idefine: c4milo: 1.4.0, but this would have to be done in the native mongodb drivers
[20:37] c4milo: idefine: strange, i am using that version and I don't have that issue 
[20:37] c4milo: idefine: do you have the link pointing to the issue? 
[20:37] idefine: c4milo: you can survive a lost connection without process.on 'uncaughtexception' ?
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[20:38] c4milo: idefine: let me do that test hehe 
[20:38] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: any idea what would cause express.static to only work one level deep?
[20:39] idefine: c4milo: in my test i do a query on a collection
[20:39] tjholowaychuk: jscheel can you gist the config?
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[20:39] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: https://gist.github.com/097950ec8a514f9d6c04
[20:40] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: app is deployed with capistrano
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[20:40] tjholowaychuk: jscheel hmm looks totally fine to me
[20:41] tjholowaychuk: not sure from looking at that
[20:41] c4milo: idefine: I shut down my database and my service is still up, now I am going to run my tests 
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[20:41] c4milo: 
ACTION cross fingers 

[20:41] idefine: ok
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[20:41] c4milo: idefine: my tests failed but my service is still up 
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[20:42] idefine: c4milo: interesting
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[20:42] idefine: c4milo: can you gist your test?
[20:42] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: here's what is happening: https://gist.github.com/582bf9b9d051d03e92ea
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[20:42] c4milo: idefine: oh I just run my tests they are a lot 
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[20:43] tjholowaychuk: jscheel GET /js/foo/test.js
[20:43] piscisaureus: mraleph: ... but IdentifyWeakHandles is only called by the mark-compactor. How does scavenge identify independent weak handles?
[20:44] idefine: c4milo: were any errors thrown? anything like: TypeError: Cannot read property 'documents' of null
[20:44] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: static just doesn't pick up on it, it falls down to the routing
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[20:44] tjholowaychuk: your requests dont look right
[20:44] c4milo: idefine: ok, I start up my database again, my service is still up but I got an error: 
[20:44] tjholowaychuk: you're missing /js
[20:44] c4milo: idefine: yes that one 
[20:44] mraleph: piscisaureus: IdentifyNewSpaceWeakIndependentHandles
[20:44] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: oh, sorry, just a mistype, 
[20:45] vipaca: Is there anyway to load ActiveRecord models into Node
[20:45] idefine: c4milo: not sure how your app survived that...sure you're listening for uncaughtexception anywhere?
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[20:45] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: mistype in my demo, it doesn't work on the server
[20:45] vipaca: I'm thinking maybe Rednode or something
[20:45] tjholowaychuk: jscheel not sure man
[20:45] tjholowaychuk: other than checking your requests and the files
[20:45] tjholowaychuk: should be fine
[20:45] vipaca: any thoughts?
[20:45] idefine: c4milo: checking to see if i have an old driver
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[20:46] piscisaureus: mraleph: thanks. Adding that to my grep list :-)
[20:46] vipaca: or the ruby racer?
[20:46] quackquack: tjholowaychuk: would you suggest compiling Jade within helpers, or just using html
[20:46] quackquack: (assuming views use jade)
[20:46] c4milo: idefine: yes, I am using handling uncaughtexception 
[20:47] tjholowaychuk: quackquack for helpers like creating lists?
[20:47] idefine: c4milo: ah ok, if you turn it off it should die, correct?
[20:47] tjholowaychuk: or select options n stuff?
[20:47] Keni: any suggestions on econnrefused at dns.js:74:15?
[20:47] quackquack: yeah
[20:47] tjholowaychuk: i would just use a js map/join
[20:47] c4milo: idefine: for sure 
[20:47] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: ok, thanks man
[20:47] jscheel: so wierd
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[20:48] idefine: c4milo: ok, we are on the same page :), would it make sense for it to throw an error that you can catch? 'notConnected' ?
[20:48] DTrejo: Keni: means you could not connect to wherever you were trying to connect
[20:48] Keni: yes, but it connected to other places in the log
[20:48] pquerna: indutny: from fast to spdy in velocityconf... 
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[20:49] c4milo: idefine: I'm not sure, I would have to look at this issue carefully 
[20:49] Keni: npm-debug.log worked fine up to dns.js
[20:50] c4milo: idefine: since mongoose is the layer on top of the driver it would be possible as well that mongoose handles the reconnections
[20:50] c4milo: idefine: I mean, it makes sense 
[20:50] idefine: c4milo: hmm, it seems like the latest native mongodb driver actually pushes this error to the callback properly
[20:51] Keni: Oh. Wrong. was merely analyzing. verbose url resolving [ 'http://registry.npmjs.org/', './vogue' ]
[20:51] idefine: c4milo: so it can be caught :)
[20:51] Keni: I've tried putting nameserver in resolve.config. What else to do?
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[20:53] Keni: I've also put an exception in windows firewall for node, but can't figure out how to do that for npm
[20:53] c4milo: idefine: wait, the driver comes with mongoose, are you using a different version that the one that comes by default in mongoose? 
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[20:53] idefine: c4milo: i think the one that ships with mongoose might be a little outdated, but checking that now
[20:54] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: huh, weird... apparently monit wasn't restarting processes, even thought it was saying that it was, so node was never restarting
[20:54] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: problem fixed
[20:54] tjholowaychuk: ah
[20:55] jscheel: tjholowaychuk: monit is the biggest load of crap, ugh
[20:55] idefine: c4milo: found the fix: https://github.com/christkv/node-mongodb-native/commit/903065c25092d4f9a83547bac106f5ef38b23cfa#lib/mongodb/collection.js
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[20:56] c4milo: idefine: how did you find it? hehe 
[20:56] idefine: c4milo: mongoose in github isn't up to date with the latest mongodb driver: https://github.com/LearnBoost/mongoose/blob/master/support/node-mongodb-native/lib/mongodb/collection.js#L462
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[20:57] c4milo: idefine: let's fill out an issue in mongoose then 
[20:57] idefine: c4milo: on it :)
[20:58] c4milo: idefine: cool 
[20:58] idefine: c4milo: are you on github? will make sure to reference you in post :)
[20:58] c4milo: idefine: my post? 
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[20:58] c4milo: idefine: yes I am at github 
[20:58] idefine: c4milo: in the issue
[20:59] eazyigz: I am using EJS with express.  What do I need to do in order to serve static content in my .ejs file (css, js, img, etc.)?
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[20:59] tjholowaychuk: eazyigz use urls like you normally would?
[21:00] eazyigz: do i need to use something other than express (like node-static)?
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[21:00] tjholowaychuk: nope
[21:00] tjholowaychuk: app.use(express.static(__dirname + '/public'))
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[21:01] eazyigz: tjholowaychuk: thanks
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[21:03] tiglionabbit: hi.  I'm working on a simple node app and I need to use a database.  I looked at node-postgres and FastLegS -- I like the features in FastLegS that convert a dict into values to be inserted or updated, but I'm not sure how to do any complex queries with it, like a many-to-many
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[21:04] tiglionabbit: also looked briefly at redis -- is there any convenient way to store a dict of data in redis?  Do you have to expand it into individual fields?
[21:05] spaceinv1der: or encode into json
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[21:05] tiglionabbit: oh yeah I guess I could do that
[21:05] spaceinv1der: foo => "{bar: 1, baz: 2}"
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[21:05] S1kx: i have an express server that accesses my mongodb with the node-mongodb package, there are about 200-300 requests per second that all need to check for records in the database. would it make sense to expose a db object to the entire process or should i keep reopening connections on each request?
[21:06] tiglionabbit: I'm using backbone.js.  It'd be pretty bad-ass to use it on the server-side too and have the urls coincide with redis records.  Can you have slashes in redis keys?
[21:06] OhMeadhbh: @S1kx... in theory, a single db object could be used since node is single threaded.
[21:07] OhMeadhbh: s/could be used/is probably okay/
[21:07] tiglionabbit: depends what mongo is densigned for, and I think that is the way it's supposed to work yes
[21:08] tiglionabbit: do you guys actually find it more convenient to use redis and maintain many lists instead of using sql and making join tables?
[21:08] S1kx: OhMeadhbh: yep I was just wondering if the driver can properly handle a queue of queries, since I've had problems before with async postgres drivers since i had to wait until one command on the connection is completed before issueing another
[21:09] OhMeadhbh: hey nodesters.. anyone here using node-inspector? i really, really, really want to love it, but it seems to have a problem with node apps started with --debug-brk. anyone else run into this? (or better yet, find a solution?)
[21:09] tiglionabbit: anyone here use FastLegS?
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[21:11] erictj: @OhMeadhbh  I use node-inspector with —debug-brk, seems to work okay
[21:11] OhMeadhbh: @S1kx - i would think it would, though i haven't looked too closely at it. i'm using the native driver (node-mongodb-native???) and there are definitely some limitations in terms of throughput, but so far it hasn't been that big of a deal for me.
[21:11] xerox: tjholowaychuk: is the chapter Inheriting from EventEmitter from your book relevant to today's node.js?
[21:11] tjholowaychuk: xerox cant remember
[21:11] OhMeadhbh: erictj - hmm. yeah. i was afraid of that.
[21:11] erictj: @Ohmeadhbh what's your specific problem?
[21:12] OhMeadhbh: fwiw... what my instance of node-inspector does is
[21:12] xerox: tjholowaychuk: it does exactly what you do in log.js let me find a link I am reading the epub version
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[21:12] S1kx: OhMeadhbh: what kind of limitations have you run into?
[21:12] tjholowaychuk: xerox does what
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[21:12] OhMeadhbh: it works fine, but only lets you see the standard node libraries and the single file you started with
[21:12] xerox: tjholowaychuk: http://visionmedia.github.com/masteringnode/book.html
[21:12] OhMeadhbh: so if you do node --debug-brk app.js
[21:12] erictj: ahh, right.
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[21:12] OhMeadhbh: and app.js imports a bunch of modules, you can't see them until you step into them
[21:12] erictj: you need to find the calls to your specific library, break on those, then step into them
[21:13] erictj: right
[21:13] xerox: tjholowaychuk: those four lines of code in that paragraph (Inherithing From EventEmitter)
[21:13] OhMeadhbh: which basically means i can't use it to debug some of my constructors (*sad face*)
[21:13] xerox: well, 5
[21:13] tjholowaychuk: xerox: EventEmitter.call(this);?
[21:13] erictj: even when you step into their instantation lines?
[21:13] OhMeadhbh: @erictj - yeah. that's not going to work for my app
[21:13] xerox: tjholowaychuk: no
[21:13] erictj: suck
[21:14] erictj: yeah, that's an annoyance of mine as well for sure
[21:14] xerox: oh that line is not in the epub version
[21:14] xerox: so yes
[21:14] tjholowaychuk: xerox just tell me the code
[21:14] tjholowaychuk: lol
[21:14] tjholowaychuk: EventEmitter.call(this); is not needed anymore
[21:14] tjholowaychuk: though it should be IMO
[21:15] tjholowaychuk: the methods just do a check for ._events
[21:15] tjholowaychuk: or populate it to {}
[21:15] tjholowaychuk: each call
[21:15] OhMeadhbh: so.. blargh. i think i'm going to soon find myself digging into the v8 debugger code and/or node-inspector.
[21:15] xerox: the epub version is var EventEmitter = require('events').EventEmitter; function Dog(name) { this.name = name; } together with Dog.prototype.__proto__ = EventEmitter.prototype;
[21:15] OhMeadhbh: which is not how i wanted to spend my week
[21:15] xerox: the html version has got the EventEmitter.call(this); call right after the this.name = name 
[21:15] tjholowaychuk: xerox: k?
[21:15] tjholowaychuk: nope you dont need that anymore
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[21:15] tjholowaychuk: people were not inheriting correctly i guess
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[21:15] tjholowaychuk: so node changed it
[21:16] xerox: tjholowaychuk: excellent, that is exactly what I am trying to understand: how to inherit correctly to make my own emitters
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[21:17] huhlig: can anyone tell me why I am getting this error? http://pastebin.com/TQ2tZZCR from this code http://pastebin.com/3YD1aqVn
[21:17] tjholowaychuk: xerox EventEmitter.call(this); would be "correct"
[21:17] tjholowaychuk: but doesn't do anything anymore
[21:17] tmm1: is there a way to install npm to a specific prefix.. something like node cli.js install -g --prefix /opt
[21:18] xerox: tjholowaychuk: I guess I'll keep it there then
[21:18] tjholowaychuk: xerox nah nah
[21:18] tjholowaychuk: you dont need it, but i think node does it in a weird way
[21:18] tjholowaychuk: but i guess if it's easier for people then it's fine
[21:19] xerox: I have been unable to find where it says how to inherit properly from EE or whatever
[21:19] tjholowaychuk: just like how you would with anything else
[21:19] tjholowaychuk: typically you call the constructor function in context of "this"
[21:19] tjholowaychuk: to set up state
[21:19] tjholowaychuk: but that's not the case for EventEmitter because it handles that stuff on each method call
[21:20] huhlig: anyone?
[21:20] xerox: ok
[21:20] xerox: another thing is that some people get their EventEmitter object from require('event').EventEmitter, others from process.EventEmitter
[21:20] xerox: is there any difference?
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[21:21] bnoordhuis: huhlig: i wager one of the servers you're scraping closed the connection without sending a response
[21:21] xerox: *'events'
[21:21] huhlig: bnoordhuis: and so it crashes the server? 
[21:21] Clex: Did you got yout point xerox?
[21:21] huhlig: *searches for exception handling
[21:21] Clex: *your
[21:21] xerox: Clex: haha no :(
[21:21] Clex: :( :( :(
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[21:22] bnoordhuis: huhlig: you probably want to hook uncaughtException
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[21:23] bnoordhuis: huhlig: and listen to the abort and error events of the http requests
[21:23] huhlig: bnoordhuis: I dont know how honestly
[21:24] huhlig: im used to try/catch
[21:25] bnoordhuis: huhlig: try/catch won't work if the request is being dispatched asynchronously
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[21:25] bnoordhuis: huhlig: you'd write something like: req.on('error', function(err) { /* handle error */ });
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[21:26] bnoordhuis: huhlig: though i don't think the error and abort listeners actually receive an error object
[21:27] huhlig: bnoordhuis can I pass that in the http.request call options at all?
[21:27] llrcombs: hey, check this out: http://search.npmjs.org/#/nttpd
[21:27] llrcombs: it runs like apache, but it works with NJS files
[21:27] llrcombs: USEFUL!
[21:28] bnoordhuis: huhlig: no, you need to operate on the object that http.request() returns
[21:28] huhlig: ok
[21:28] llrcombs: (and really new)
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[21:28] bnoordhuis: huhlig: but i might be giving you bad advice - error and aborted are not officially supported, i think
[21:28] huhlig: oh
[21:28] huhlig: bugger
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[21:30] chad_burt: question - seems like most libraries I've seen using node don't worry about private/privileged vars on objects, just assigning everything to `this`. Is that becoming a best practice as opposed to protecting with closures?
[21:30] AvianFlu: chad_burt you should decide that based on your use case
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[21:31] AvianFlu: what everyone else does won't help you if you have some stuff that just really needs to be private class data
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[21:31] bnoordhuis: huhlig: and to complicate matters further - those events are part of the agent object now (in node master)
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[21:31] bnoordhuis: huhlig: so probably best you forgot i said all that
[21:31] chrisdickinson: out of curiosity, is there a preferred sqlite3 binding for node? i see one from orlandov and one from developmentseed.
[21:31] SubStack: closed over data that is
[21:32] SubStack: classes suck
[21:32] huhlig: ok
[21:32] chad_burt: I hate answers like that :)
[21:32] huhlig: so how can I catch it dropping me and make it NOT crash the server
[21:32] AvianFlu: substack: excellent point
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[21:32] AvianFlu: chad_burt ever heard the expression "given enough rope to hang yourself"?
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[21:32] kmiyashiro: why do classes suck?
[21:32] chad_burt: oh yes. javascript seems to embody that sentiment
[21:33] AvianFlu: node is a pile of rope... whether you make a bridge or hang yourself is on you
[21:33] miccolis: chrisdickinson: for what it's worth we (developmentseed) are actively support ours
[21:33] bnoordhuis: huhlig: probably by hooking uncaughtException and pretending your nose bleeds
[21:33] SubStack: kmiyashiro: because they live at the top-level scope and you can't nest them closed over variables
[21:33] OhMeadhbh: anyone ever heard of colloquy kernel panicing a mac? man... MacOS X has gotten VERY fragile
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[21:33] huhlig: bnoordhuis: how do I hook the exception. With the request.on('error', fn(){});?
[21:33] SubStack: first-class functions > classes
[21:34] mahna: huhlig: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.8/api/http.html#http.request
[21:34] chrisdickinson: miccolis: cool -- thanks for the heads up.
[21:34] kmiyashiro: so... modules?
[21:34] bnoordhuis: huhlig: http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.4.8/api/process.html#process
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[21:34] huhlig: ...?
[21:35] bnoordhuis: huhlig: search for 'uncaughtException' on that page
[21:35] bnoordhuis: huhlig: it's a global exception catcher
[21:36] chrisdickinson: chad_burt: from what i've seen (and maybe from unabashed hope a bit), i'd say that python and javascript both subscribe to the "we're all adults here" idiom as regards private/protected variables
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[21:36] chrisdickinson: it's possible to create private and protected variables, but i've rarely seen that it helps an api, personally.
[21:37] chad_burt: the difference I'm seeing is that in python there is a convention (supported by the tooling) for marking methods/attributes as not part of the public api
[21:37] chad_burt: _protected
[21:37] chrisdickinson: chad_burt: yeah -- i personally try to follow that convention in my javascript, too.
[21:38] chad_burt: I'm more concerned about making my code easy to use as opposed to preventing behavior
[21:38] llrcombs: chrisdickinson: plus, if you want access to a private variable in either language, you can modify the library
[21:39] chrisdickinson: llrcombs: yep. i've had this come up while writing unit tests a lot.
[21:39] SubStack: that is a silly convention
[21:39] llrcombs: chrisdickinson: hey, wanna try a bit of code?
[21:39] chrisdickinson: llrcombs: sure?
[21:39] chad_burt: Substack - better suggestion?
[21:39] llrcombs: http://search.npmjs.org/#/nttpd
[21:39] SubStack: if you start having to have _members just turn your api into a closure-based one instead of prototype
[21:39] llrcombs: I haven't written a readme yet, but I will
[21:39] llrcombs: basically, go to a dir and type nttpd
[21:40] chrisdickinson: SubStack: i don't like private variables. even if they do clean up my object as presented to Object.keys
[21:40] SubStack: why not?
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[21:40] huhlig: ok so why do all requests except the first time out
[21:40] SubStack: they're not "private" as such
[21:40] SubStack: they're scoped
[21:41] SubStack: and as a bonus, you get a new scope for each function you declare
[21:41] llrcombs: if you want, put https://github.com/11rcombs/nttpd/blob/master/test.njs somewhere in the dir
[21:41] chrisdickinson: llrcombs: it might be a bit, i'm on node 0.4.0 and i'm downloading 0.4.7
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[21:41] SubStack: it's wonderfully consistent and simple
[21:41] llrcombs: ahh, alright
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[21:42] llrcombs: I usually require the latest version of node in my modules, as I don't really want to go back and test on other versions
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[21:42] chrisdickinson: hmm.
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[21:43] mscdex: llrcombs: well, generall stable "major" versions only receive bug fixes
[21:43] mscdex: s/generall/generally
[21:43] JoseCabo: bnoordhuis, hi
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[21:44] chrisdickinson: SubStack: either approach is fine, i'm sure -- a matter of taste, ultimately
[21:44] zmbmartin: how do I send a message to the client with socket.io after an event?
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[21:44] chrisdickinson: I like being able to subclass and extend, and to see everything that the parent class sees.
[21:45] llrcombs: chrisdickinson: if you already npm install'd it, npm update it now, I fixed a dependency
[21:46] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: hi
[21:46] JoseCabo: bnoordhuis, i think was you who I was talking about my code last night
[21:47] JoseCabo: are you?
[21:47] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: i was, i am
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[21:48] JoseCabo: bnoordhuis, great!, I have news. if you remember my problem i was testing tonight my code in a newer, and unestable version, of node.js
[21:48] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: you got it working?
[21:48] JoseCabo: so i did it... with the +- newer version. And... it worked! :D
[21:48] JoseCabo: seems to be a bug with 0.4.8 version
[21:49] bnoordhuis: well, glad you got it resolved
[21:49] JoseCabo: my code worked but not node-ogl code so i will continue "porting" my code to node-ogl orignal code
[21:49] llrcombs: zmbmartin: this.send(data);
[21:49] JoseCabo: So thanks bnoordhuis for all your help :-)
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[21:50] zmbmartin: llrcombs: do I do socket.on 'connection' or ???
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[21:50] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: you're welcome, glad to have been of help
[21:50] llrcombs: when do you want to send this?
[21:51] JoseCabo: anyway you know when aproximatelly node.js developer team will release node 0.4.9 or 0.5? or a release candidate?
[21:51] zmbmartin: llrcombs: after an photo is finished being uploaded and processed with imagemagick
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[21:52] llrcombs: so in the function that does that, do client.send(data);
[21:52] llrcombs: you'll have to keep track of the client somehow
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[21:54] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: not really - the master is very much in flux right now
[21:54] JoseCabo: what means "very much in flux"?
[21:54] JoseCabo: sorry for my english level.
[21:54] JoseCabo: basically: "unstable"?
[21:54] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: as in undergoing lots of changes
[21:54] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: yes
[21:54] JoseCabo: oh, ok
[21:55] JoseCabo: the 0.4.8 is +- recent.
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[21:55] zmbmartin: llrcombs: I am using express so my socket.io stuff is in the main app file and I am trying to do this in a controller. How do I pass the client around?
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[21:55] JoseCabo: so... i think the next version will come to the end of month
[21:55] JoseCabo: or new month
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[21:56] llrcombs: zmbmartin: that's where It Gets Complicated. Personally, I stick the client in an array of clients and keep track of its key
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[21:56] bnoordhuis: JoseCabo: i think between now and six months is a reasonable estimate ;)
[21:57] JoseCabo: for 0.4.9 or 0.5??
[21:57] JoseCabo: omg, i think a bug fix will released "soon" xD
[21:57] zmbmartin: llrcombs: got any sample code I can peak at?
[21:57] llrcombs: JoseCabo: been reading Gruber?
[21:57] llrcombs: zmbmartin: yeah, but it's not quite applicable to this situation
[21:57] JoseCabo: llrcombs, what?
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[21:58] llrcombs: the "soon" jokes are all over Daring Fireball
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[21:58] JoseCabo: llrcombs, sorry for my english level.
[21:58] llrcombs: like, Flash on mobile will be out of beta "soon", I'm sure
[21:59] mbrevoort: issacs: having an npm registration replication issue, wanted to see if you had any ideas
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[22:00] zmbmartin: llrcombs: I know but I like to see examples of things regardless. If you don't mind.
[22:01] llrcombs: sure, just a sec
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[22:01] llrcombs: http://rodgercombs.webhop.net/maps/server.js
[22:02] llrcombs: also interesting is how that's used: http://rodgercombs.webhop.net/maps/freenode/Node.js/true
[22:03] fakewaffle: im confused about sessions and cookies using express. anyone have any resources?
[22:04] tjholowaychuk: fakewaffle what part is confusing u?
[22:04] zmbmartin: llrcombs: thanks
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[22:05] llrcombs: welcome
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[22:06] fakewaffle: tjholowaychuk: im just getting started with it - so all of it? not sure where to begin. i am creating an auth component, so i would assume that is the authentication is successful, a cookie will be created for the user with a unique ID and express will store vars in memory? 
[22:07] fakewaffle: "that is the" = "that if the", sorry
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[22:07] tjholowaychuk: fakewaffle oh, well i mean sessions are more or less the same with any framework, connect supports multiple stores though
[22:08] tjholowaychuk: so you can use redis, memory, mongo etc
[22:08] fakewaffle: so, if i console.log(request.session) there are different values every request, obviously, just confused 
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[22:08] tactical: hi.  what is this channel about
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[22:09] fakewaffle: tactical: http://nodejs.org !
[22:09] insin: notsureifserious.gif
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[22:11] tactical: so it's used for writing web servers
[22:11] tactical: why not just write them in a proper language
[22:11] MooGoo: indeed
[22:11] quackquack: such as?...
[22:11] tactical: C#
[22:11] MooGoo: tactials wisdom is unquestionable, time to shut this channel down
[22:11] quackquack: rofl
[22:11] MooGoo: you mean Java?
[22:12] quackquack: no, no. C#. its like java but without the cross-platform-ness
[22:13] MooGoo: but Java is a proper as a language cna get
[22:13] tactical: so you "createServer()", but what if that code has bugs?
[22:13] MooGoo: it's all about being proper
[22:13] slaskis: tactical: pretty sure that applies to all languages though?
[22:13] cghobbs: Does anyone have experience using calipso?
[22:13] MooGoo: Java doesnt have bugs
[22:13] tactical: if you wrote the server yourself, you could fix the bugs
[22:14] frodenius: if you have the source, you could fix the bug
[22:14] MooGoo: what if the CPU that is executing your code has hardware bugs?
[22:14] fakewaffle: i think we have an erlang troll
[22:14] frodenius: lol
[22:14] MooGoo: you should construct ur own cpu
[22:14] tactical: frodenius:  not really
[22:14] frodenius: tactical㇀ wat
[22:14] frodenius: how so?
[22:14] tactical: unless you wrote it, you probably won't understand it
[22:14] tactical: let's be realistic
[22:15] frodenius: let's be realistic, if you cannot understand other peoples' code, why the heck are you writing a web server anyway
[22:15] jscheel: tactical: gonna take you for your word. You catch any exceptions that may be thrown. If all else fails and your server crashes, you should be monitoring it with something like monit, which will notice that it is down and restart the service
[22:15] fakewaffle: jscheel++
[22:15] v8bot:  fakewaffle has given a beer to jscheel. jscheel now has 1 beers.
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[22:16] MooGoo: 1 beers eh
[22:16] MooGoo: sounds like a bug
[22:16] fakewaffle: loser
[22:16] slaskis: MooGoo: probably a bug in the createServer()
[22:16] MooGoo: probably should have written that bot in Java
[22:16] fakewaffle: lol
[22:16] jscheel: fakewaffle: grazie
[22:16] fakewaffle: v8bot--
[22:16] v8bot:  fakewaffle has taken a beer from v8bot. v8bot now has 29 beers.
[22:16] fakewaffle: O.o
[22:16] MooGoo: wolw
[22:16] MooGoo: its hoarding all that shit
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[22:17] MooGoo: drunk ass bot
[22:17] fakewaffle: lol
[22:17] fakewaffle: take it all away!
[22:17] MooGoo: v8bot--
[22:17] v8bot:  v8bot is getting too many beers.  Don't let v8bot get drunk!
[22:17] MooGoo: ....
[22:17] DTrejo: v8bot--
[22:17] v8bot:  v8bot is getting too many beers.  Don't let v8bot get drunk!
[22:17] fakewaffle: i never understood that one...
[22:17] zmbmartin: llrcombs: I don't see how I access the client id to store in a array?
[22:17] tactical: i think something like "createServer" is too high a level of abstraction
[22:17] AvianFlu: !insult v8:
[22:17] kohai: v8: smells of elderberry wine!
[22:17] Calvin: says a prayer to jesus for v8:'s well being
[22:17] v8bot: kohai: SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier
[22:17] tactical: what next?  "createProgram();"?
[22:17] DTrejo: !insult v8bot 
[22:17] kohai: v8bot is like one of those callbacks that just won't fire.
[22:17] Calvin: v8bot thinks the sky's the limit even though there are footprints on the moon
[22:17] fakewaffle: lol @ elderberry
[22:17] jscheel: fakewaffle: it sees that you are taking them and starts to drink everything it can, before you can get your hands on it
[22:18] AvianFlu: !insult v8:\ console.log('Calvin sucks')
[22:18] kohai: v8:\ is an unsightly trouser stain!
[22:18] v8bot: kohai: SyntaxError: Unexpected token ILLEGAL
[22:18] Calvin: v8:\ console.log('Calvin sucks') does not understand the glory of getting ssh to work in fullscreen on your phonr
[22:18] v8bot: Calvin: SyntaxError: Unexpected token ILLEGAL
[22:18] Calvin: SyntaxError Unexpected
[22:18] frodenius: tactical㇀ then don't
[22:18] MooGoo: lol
[22:18] AvianFlu: !insult v8: console.log('Calvin sucks')
[22:18] kohai: v8: is like one of those callbacks that just won't fire.
[22:18] v8bot: kohai: SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier
[22:18] Calvin: v8: console.log('Calvin sucks') likes Wolverine the most out of all the X-People
[22:18] v8bot: Calvin: SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier
[22:18] Calvin: SyntaxError Unexpected
[22:18] frodenius: you can use socket streams as well
[22:18] MooGoo: nice
[22:18] MooGoo: one statement to abuse all the bots on the chan
[22:18] DTrejo: wtf is calvin?
[22:18] Calvin: wtf is design by contract is silly to replace it
[22:18] tactical: kids these days aren't being exposed to real programming
[22:18] fakewaffle: lol?
[22:18] MooGoo: truth
[22:18] AvianFlu: markov chain, DTrejo.  markov chain.
[22:18] MooGoo: tactical++
[22:18] v8bot:  MooGoo has given a beer to tactical. tactical now has 1 beers.
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[22:19] fakewaffle: v8bot--
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[22:19] frodenius: define 'real' programming?
[22:19] DTrejo: DTrejo++
[22:19] v8bot: DTrejo: Don't cheat!  You can't give a beer to yourself.
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[22:19] AvianFlu: DTrejo++
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[22:19] DTrejo: AvianFlu++
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[22:19] fakewaffle: AvianFlu!
[22:19] DTrejo: it keeps losing my beers
[22:19] Calvin: moogoo++
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[22:19] AvianFlu: sup fakewaffle
[22:19] fakewaffle: hi
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[22:19] tactical: "createServer()" is not real.  real is "tcpSocket.Listen();  FireOffANewThreadForEachConnection();"
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[22:19] frodenius: like that is any good
[22:19] MooGoo: are you sure that function name is descriptive enough?
[22:20] jscheel: 
ACTION prefers to write all servers in assembly

[22:20] fakewaffle: lol
[22:20] frodenius: thereIsOnlyOneThreadInJavascriptLetsDoThisServerEventBased();
[22:20] AvianFlu: movl $eax
[22:20] AvianFlu: my bad, movl $ebx,$eax
[22:20] MooGoo: my custom built CPU has an opcode for creating and running servers
[22:20] frodenius: lol
[22:20] idefine: does express do async rendering of templates?
[22:20] fakewaffle: jscheel: http://xkcd.com/378/
[22:20] jscheel: hah
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[22:21] tactical: so what do you folks make with Node.js
[22:21] insin: hey guys, I just started using node, but I think there's a bug in createServer() - is there a version I can try in a proper language?
[22:21] frodenius: irc bots
[22:21] fakewaffle: frodenius++
[22:21] v8bot:  fakewaffle has given a beer to frodenius. frodenius now has 0 beers.
[22:21] idefine: or, can you flush your content somehow?
[22:21] frodenius: wat
[22:22] frodenius: 0 beers? who took all my beer :(
[22:22] AvianFlu: frodenius++
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[22:22] MooGoo: is there a node.java or node.c# out yet
[22:22] fakewaffle: it had rufees in it bro
[22:22] MooGoo: or node.asm
[22:22] AvianFlu: MooGoo: I made a node.js wrapper to the GHCi :D
[22:22] MooGoo: node.haskell
[22:22] tactical: do you really feel like you're programming when you use node.js?
[22:22] MooGoo: that sounds like a great project
[22:23] MooGoo: no
[22:23] AvianFlu: tactical: only for people who draw a distinction between 'programming' and 'scripting'
[22:23] insin: tactical: no, I just call createServer, sit back and sigh :-(
[22:23] AvianFlu: if somebody wants to use 'programming' generally, I'm not gonna argue with them
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[22:23] coreb: isaacs: good job on supervisor, saves me annoying restarts while developing
[22:23] jscheel: tactical: currently? A mobile site that interfaces via tcp with a mono c# application which interfaces with legacy business objects in front of a msql server, in front of an oracle server. #dyingaslowandagonizingdeath
[22:23] fakewaffle: tactical: Integrated micropayments api mashup
[22:24] AvianFlu: but I know a C/asm dude who HATES when any scripting language is called 'programming'
[22:24] xerox: are "throw err" and "process.on('error', ...)" connected in any way?
[22:24] fakewaffle: tactical: also Geotag enabled aggregator using shockwave
[22:24] xerox: should one throw err, or emit('error', ...
[22:25] tactical: how many lines do these programs contain
[22:25] tactical: ?
[22:25] insin: 42
[22:25] fakewaffle: i made a web-based dating  with streaming socket connection
[22:25] tactical: i mean, are they all 10 lines lnog
[22:25] tactical: long
[22:25] jscheel: xerox: process.on('uncaughtException', function(err){}) is a good way to have a final safety mechanism for catching errors that have been thrown but not caught
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[22:26] fakewaffle: tactical: what are you getting at?
[22:26] xerox: jscheel: are "throw err" errors and "process.emit('error', ..." errors the same things?
[22:26] tactical: are any Node.js programs long
[22:26] xerox: if not which ones does it catch?
[22:26] slaskis: tactical: mine are very long
[22:26] MooGoo: I write all my programs in one line
[22:27] insin: tjholowaychuk wrote a long one, but that was mostly because he put his name in a comment
[22:27] xerox: did I make the second one up? xD
[22:27] AvianFlu: MooGoo: s/in/on/ , don't front :D
[22:27] jscheel: xerox: throw err just says "there's been a problem". If that throw doesn't bubble up to a try catch statement somewhere, then process.on('UncaughtException'... will catch it.
[22:27] tjholowaychuk: insin: i what?
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[22:27] tactical: did you folks ever use MFC?
[22:28] xerox: jscheel: hmm ok
[22:28] insin: tjholowaychuk: "<tactical> are any Node.js programs long" :)
[22:28] MooGoo: programs that are not written on punch cards are not real anyways
[22:29] fakewaffle: i want to create an iphone twitter app with node: where do i start?
[22:29] insin: very small, very powerful magnets or bust
[22:29] slaskis: fakewaffle: you start by jailbreaking your iphone
[22:30] fakewaffle: slaskis: i dont have an iphone though
[22:30] tactical: isn't that illegal
[22:31] MooGoo: is Objective C a real programing language?
[22:31] fakewaffle: no
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[22:31] slaskis: fakewaffle: then that's a problem, maybe you can use this with xcode? https://github.com/TooTallNate/node-iOS
[22:32] coreb: so what'll be big news in 0.5.0?
[22:32] fakewaffle: a new number
[22:32] JoseCabo: coreb, +1
[22:32] Ian_Corne: +0.1.0 *
[22:32] Ian_Corne: :D
[22:32] slaskis: coreb: i think the biggest change is full windows support
[22:33] MooGoo: is windows a real operating system
[22:33] JoseCabo: MooGoo, good question.
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[22:33] coreb: ah, the funmen
[22:33] MooGoo: should nodejs really be supporting fake oses
[22:33] fakewaffle: v8bot--
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[22:33] fakewaffle: slowly!
[22:33] JoseCabo: MooGoo, if people is working in an weboperatingsystem.. why not with windows?
[22:33] JoseCabo: both are fake SO
[22:34] MooGoo: if an OS isnt somehow based on unix it is cleary not real
[22:34] JoseCabo: The work in Windows don't affect to other forks
[22:34] JoseCabo: omg xD
[22:35] coreb: it's a great decision to support windows
[22:35] Ian_Corne: bleh
[22:35] tactical: can you link me to a program written in node.js
[22:35] Ian_Corne: windows
[22:35] JoseCabo: I think node could compile in Windows but don't use Windows as a main platform. Use Linux, like now, for execute main platform.
[22:35] MooGoo: tactical www.microsoft.com
[22:35] MooGoo: I hear they program all their shit in nodejs
[22:35] JoseCabo: ??
[22:36] JoseCabo: who are they? MooGoo ?
[22:36] Ian_Corne: ..
[22:36] Calvin: 14undefined
[22:36] MooGoo: Bill Gates
[22:36] coreb: .NET is implemented in node.js
[22:36] JoseCabo: ...bill gates?
[22:36] Ian_Corne: hehe
[22:36] MooGoo: he wrote Windows in Node.js
[22:36] JoseCabo: coreb, .NEt?????
[22:36] tactical: i am serious
[22:36] MooGoo: just 3 lines
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[22:36] coreb: JoseCabo: didn't you know?
[22:36] JoseCabo: coreb, you are joking.
[22:36] JoseCabo: xD
[22:36] JoseCabo: i am sure.
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[22:37] MooGoo: node.NET
[22:37] systemfault: Noobs.. Windows is vbscript :/
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[22:37] MooGoo: you mean QBasic
[22:37] tactical: just show me one prog
[22:37] zmbmartin: everytime a page refresh the client in socket.io gets a new sessionId? Is this right?
[22:37] JoseCabo: poor me
[22:37] JoseCabo: zmbmartin, logically yes.
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[22:38] JoseCabo: zmbmartin, it is a new connection
[22:38] frodenius: tactical㇀ node's shining star is http://transloadit.com/
[22:38] JoseCabo: frodenius, where SO are you now?
[22:38] JoseCabo: which SO are you right now??***
[22:38] frodenius: SO?
[22:38] jscheel: xerox: http://pastie.org/2074772
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[22:38] JoseCabo: OS*
[22:39] frodenius: i'm a mac
[22:39] jscheel: xerox: run that and you will see how it works
[22:39] JoseCabo: oah.
[22:39] tactical: all node code is open source, right
[22:39] JoseCabo: Check your codification
[22:39] JoseCabo: check your mac... is broken (H)
[22:39] xerox: jscheel: hey
[22:40] frodenius: JoseCabo㇀ i think you don't have UTF-8
[22:40] JoseCabo: I am on Ubuntu, i only use utf8...
[22:40] xerox: jscheel: I see
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[22:41] davidbanham: tactical: Yep. https://github.com/joyent/node
[22:41] sechrist: lulzsec
[22:41] sechrist: bah
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[22:41] JoseCabo: frodenius, i think you "print" a weird character when you use tab (or equivalent key in private mac system) for autocomplet name
[22:41] frodenius: well yes my irc application does that
[22:42] frodenius: it's a cjk stroke t
[22:42] JoseCabo: aj�
[22:42] spaceinv1der: 卐卐卐卐
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[22:42] spaceinv1der: utf8 nazi
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[22:42] JoseCabo: spaceinv1der, ��
[22:42] JoseCabo: !!*
[22:42] spaceinv1der: making sure everyone has it set up
[22:42] JoseCabo:  xD
[22:43] JoseCabo: if someone can see this character: '�' is because it have the right codification.
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[22:43] spaceinv1der: ¡Hola!
[22:43] davidbanham: frodenius: Try LimeChat for OS X. It's pretty, and there's no encoding weirdness.
[22:43] JoseCabo: �Hola! spaceinv1der 
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[22:43] spaceinv1der: irssi represent
[22:43] kmiyashiro: someone should write irc node awesome thing
[22:43] frodenius: well i am pretty sure i have no encoding weirdness either
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[22:44] frodenius: fwg㇀ or do i
[22:44] xerox: kmiyashiro: I thought about that but writing the client part puts me off
[22:44] AvianFlu: !insult IRC
[22:44] kohai: IRC is like one of those callbacks that just won't fire.
[22:44] Calvin: Oh fuck you, IRC.
[22:44] fwg: frodenius㇀ nope
[22:44] JoseCabo: kmiyashiro, my bf and I are coding an webchat using node :P
[22:44] JoseCabo: isn't irc... but is better!
[22:44] JoseCabo: xd
[22:44] kmiyashiro: but that's webchat
[22:44] JoseCabo: kmiyashiro, better than irc!
[22:44] JoseCabo: xd
[22:44] kmiyashiro: can't sit in #node.js in webchat
[22:45] JoseCabo: ?
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[22:45] kmiyashiro: the irc channel
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[22:45] systemfault: Wow... Lulzsec is playing with fire... They just DDOSed the CIA's website :/
[22:45] JoseCabo: omg.. omg omg... http://twitpic.com/5bwt4u the world end is near...
[22:45] jscheel: xerox: hmm, not 100% on what happens to the even loop after the uncaughtException though. I thought it would keep on trucking, but it looks like it doesn't act as a catch.
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[22:46] davidbanham: systemfault: Cue media outrage and action at a federal government level.
[22:46] systemfault: :/
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[22:46] NuckingFuts: tjholowaychuk: How would I build an effective login system on ExpressJS?
[22:46] tjholowaychuk: NuckingFuts like you normally would
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[22:47] tjholowaychuk: form, sessions, etc
[22:47] zmbmartin: tjholowaychuk: is there a callback that I can use for when the req.form is finished?
[22:47] NuckingFuts: tjholowaychuk: Aye, how do I handle sessions though?
[22:47] tjholowaychuk: zmbmartin it's all in the docs/tests/source
[22:47] NuckingFuts: As in cookie-session shit
[22:47] tjholowaychuk: with the session middleware
[22:47] NuckingFuts: 
ACTION has the urge to eat cookies >_>

[22:47] tjholowaychuk: look at the auth example
[22:48] NuckingFuts: tjholowaychuk: Can I drop in my own auth system?
[22:48] xerox: jscheel: what do you mean? I think that if you add a setInterval the process would not finish since now you are catching anything
[22:48] tjholowaychuk: NuckingFuts of course
[22:48] fakewaffle: is there an app that can extract my documentation for api?
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[22:49] zmbmartin: tjholowaychuk: of connect-form or node-formidable?
[22:49] tjholowaychuk: zmbmartin connect-form
[22:49] JoseCabo: fakewaffle, can you explain? i could be interested in the same.
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[22:50] jscheel: xerox: http://pastie.org/2074816
[22:50] fakewaffle: like phpdoc?
[22:50] xerox: jscheel: http://pastebin.com/uzjS1CyG
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[22:51] davidbanham: NuckingFuts: It's easier than you may think. Here's a code dump from my current app showing the guts of the login, logout, authentication, user creation and password change system.
[22:51] davidbanham: http://pastebin.com/JLUenV2r
[22:51] NuckingFuts: I'm using MongoDB for my database shit, should I use Mongo or add Redis to handle session stores?
[22:52] addisonj: fakewaffle, you take a look at this? https://github.com/visionmedia/dox
[22:52] davidbanham: NuckingFuts: That's a question I can't really answer. Don't know enough about Mongo. Redis is awesome and simple as hell, though.
[22:52] NuckingFuts: davidbanham: MongoDB is a great store system for long-term storage
[22:52] addisonj: NuckingFuts, mongo works jsut fine too
[22:53] addisonj: and you aren't going to loose much on performance honestly
[22:53] addisonj: if anything at all
[22:53] carpeliam: hey, is anybody using juggernaut? i was wondering if i can run juggernaut as part of my existing node app, do i really need to run juggernaut in a separate node instance?
[22:53] NuckingFuts: Things like user passwords and shit are great in it
[22:53] fakewaffle: addisonj: thanks man
[22:53] NuckingFuts: addisonj: Okay, that was my biggest fear.
[22:53] NuckingFuts: Thanks for that :D
[22:53] addisonj: NuckingFuts, for sessions stores, connect-mongodb
[22:53] davidbanham: NuckingFuts: Yeah I could identify it at 100m, but I don't know the ins and outs of it. Using Mongo for everything will probably make it simpler when you want to scale horizontally.
[22:53] addisonj: is the package you will want
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[22:54] NuckingFuts: addisonj: I assume that's a middleware session store system built on mongo?
[22:54] addisonj: yep
[22:54] davidbanham: Incidentally, if anyone wants to take a look at that code I posted and tell me if I've done anything monumentally stupid with my crypto I'd appreciate it. http://pastebin.com/JLUenV2r
[22:55] NuckingFuts: I do SHA-256 hashes for my password stores
[22:55] NuckingFuts: Salted by the username
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[22:55] NuckingFuts: Thinking of adding another salt though too >_>
[22:55] addisonj: salts probably shouldn't be by username... use something semi random
[22:55] NuckingFuts: addisonj: Per-user or global?
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[22:56] addisonj: NuckingFuts, here is a good technique, look at the way he does his user class, and it uses mongoose
[22:56] addisonj: https://github.com/alexyoung/nodepad/blob/master/models.js
[22:56] NuckingFuts: ewwwwwww mongoose
[22:57] NuckingFuts: 
ACTION vomits all over addisonj's shoes

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[22:57] addisonj: well, however, you can take that technique and apply it elsewhere
[22:57] NuckingFuts: mongo-native :D
[22:57] addisonj: mongoose is nice... but API changes are sort of bugging me
[22:58] ben_alman: can anyone recommend a npm-module docs generator for JS source files?
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[22:58] addisonj: ben_alman, dox
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[22:59] NuckingFuts: addisonj: To me, it's too clunky, and not many people seem to actually have used it.  The part that originally scared me about Mongo-native was the nested callbacks, but once I finally grasped scope back in Feburary, it wasn't nearly as bad.
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[23:00] addisonj: i appreciate the built in validation, error handling, and scheme support, but yeah, to each his own
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[23:01] NuckingFuts: addisonj: I don't have much need for schemes, and I don't mind having to add an "if (err) throw err" line to each callback :P
[23:01] NuckingFuts: I design my databases carefully
[23:01] NuckingFuts: And validation is something I would probably handle myself anyways
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[23:09] xerox: where do unhandled events go
[23:10] xerox: emitter.emit('purr')
[23:10] xerox: but there is not listener on 'purr'
[23:10] xerox: what happens?
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[23:11] Ian_Corne: nothing?
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[23:13] quackquack: are there any good client side validation javascript libraries?
[23:13] xerox: ah I see
[23:13] xerox: returns false
[23:13] xerox: that's helpful :)
[23:13] Ian_Corne: the emit returns false?
[23:13] xerox: yes
[23:13] xerox: > e.emit('hi')
[23:13] xerox: false
[23:13] Ian_Corne: and if something is listening, it returns true?
[23:13] xerox: > e.on('hi', function(){}); e.emit('hi')
[23:13] xerox: true
[23:14] Ian_Corne: kk :)
[23:14] xerox: pretty
[23:14] Ian_Corne: clean I guess :)
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[23:14] xerox: quackquack: jquery this or that? :|
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[23:15] quackquack: xerox: yes. i know this isnt the jquery channel, but i figured people might know anyway :P
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[23:15] xerox: :)))
[23:16] boogyman: quackquack: there are a variations channels for a reason... speaking off-topic is unlikely to get you valuable resources/help
[23:16] insin: 
ACTION needs to get back to work on his forms/validation library which works in Node and on the client, but isn't that useful in either yet :-/

[23:18] mscdex: quackquack: i think there was a post on the mailing list about server/client side validation libs
[23:18] quackquack: kzh; mscdex: thank you, ill check those out
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[23:41] _1marc: has anyone ran up against a 413 error in Node.JS?
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[23:43] _1marc: "413 Request Entity Too Large"
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[23:44] _1marc: Ah! was because node.js is routed through nginx
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[23:48] AvianFlu: _lmarc: try node-http-proxy
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[23:53] ParadoxQuine: anyone have a recommendation of a good way to persist some data (a game state) between requests but not actually store it in a db or file (it's ok to delete it if all the users in the game session disconnect, for example)
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[23:55] MooGoo: this is node.js we are talking about...
[23:55] MooGoo: so....variables?
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[23:58] mscdex: ParadoxQuine: yeah, i'd store it in memory in an object, array, etc
[23:59] mscdex: node.js rules!
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[23:59] NuckingFuts: Anybody care to explain how salts work to me?  Or rather, how I use one?  I know what they are, just not how I would use one.
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