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#{issue.description}""" [18:25] pyrotechnick: [18:25] pyrotechnick: marker = new google.maps.Marker [18:25] pyrotechnick: position: new google.maps.LatLng issue.latitude, issue.longitude [18:25] pyrotechnick: map: map [18:25] stagas: http://nodejs.eu [18:25] pyrotechnick: title: issue.title [18:25] pyrotechnick: google.maps.event.addListener marker, 'mouseover', -> [18:25] pyrotechnick: info.open map, marker [18:25] pyrotechnick: but in the end every marker is assigned the same info [18:26] wookiehangover: but pyrotechnick pastebin, yo [18:26] MattJ: ACTION hands pyrotechnick a flameproof suit [18:26] pyrotechnick: man its not that big settle down [18:26] Aria: Dude, that's huge. Also, impossible to copy and paste to replicate a problem. [18:26] pyrotechnick: get a decent client... [18:27] Aria: ENOMINIMUMEFFORT [18:27] wookiehangover: its called decorum, ass [18:27] pyrotechnick: its called innovation [18:27] cheney: pyrotechnick: http://prettydiff.com/?pastebin [18:27] pyrotechnick: and progress [18:27] pyrotechnick: and why the fuck [18:28] pyrotechnick: would anyone want to attempt to copy and paste that [18:28] cheney: that will beautify your code and submit it to Pastebin for you [18:28] pyrotechnick: its coffeescript and all the variables arent provided in the snippter [18:28] pyrotechnick: fucking noobs [18:28] wookiehangover: ACTION facepalm [18:28] Aria: ACTION rolls her eyes and goes back to hacking on things. [18:29] pyrotechnick: aria this isnt RP [18:29] cheney: hey guys, how do I resolve a module with the same name as its containing directory? [18:29] Aria: Life is RP. [18:29] cheney: would I access the file by resolve('/path/prettydiff/prettydiff'); ? [18:29] pyrotechnick: lulz [18:29] Aria: Yeah. [18:29] bingomanatee_: Is there any way of copying a file from one path to another that is simpler than linked read/write streams? [18:29] pyrotechnick: why is it only the insane are active in this channel [18:30] stagas: cheney: you do: var prettydiff = require('/path/prettydiff/prettydiff'); [18:30] Aria: Nope, bingomanatee. [18:30] bingomanatee_: thx [18:30] pyrotechnick: bingomanatee: [18:30] pyrotechnick: exec 'cp SOURCE DESTINATION' [18:31] Aria: (could wrap up a few of those functions and publish 'em ... it'd be generally useful.) [18:31] Aria: ACTION hands pyrotechnick a file named "yourmother;rm -rf /" [18:31] pyrotechnick: there are a few golden rules of POSIX [18:31] pyrotechnick: one is have a program do a single purpose [18:31] pyrotechnick: the other is to use text files [18:31] pyrotechnick: the other is dont reinvent the wheel [18:32] pyrotechnick: cp does file copying just fine [18:32] pyrotechnick: theres no need to do it in node with linked streams [18:32] pyrotechnick: unless [18:32] pyrotechnick: you actually want to manipulate that stream [18:32] pyrotechnick: anyone who disagress doesnt deserve POSIX and can go back to windows [18:32] Aria: Sure, if you like a lack of completion events, no access to the actual errno, and the cost of shelling out, and the hassle of quoting. [18:32] pyrotechnick: then spawn a child process [18:33] pyrotechnick: and u get all the information you mentioned isnt available [18:33] Aria: ECITATIONNEEDED [18:33] wookiehangover: Aria: don't feed the trolls [18:33] Aria: Yeah, I'm out of practice. &ignore; ... THis channel's usually so good. [18:34] Aria: My penance shall be closing an open issue in code I wrote. [18:34] wookiehangover: what are you working on? [18:34] pyrotechnick: ahaha you label me as a troll for trying to stop you from rewriting `cp` [18:35] pyrotechnick: insane [18:35] wookiehangover: no, I label you a troll for not knowing how to use pastebin and then having attitude about it [18:35] Aria: Today, the html5 parser. [18:35] aristidesfl has left the channel [18:35] wookiehangover: Aria: killer. on github? [18:35] aristidesfl has joined the channel [18:35] tjholowaychuk: pyrotechnick: I wouldnt trust exec() really, depends what you are doing [18:35] aristidesfl: peca [18:35] tjholowaychuk: I do it lots for setup scripts n shit [18:35] pyrotechnick: n shit [18:35] tjholowaychuk: but that is something the user is running willingly [18:35] pyrotechnick: mate i know how to use a pastebin just fine [18:35] pyrotechnick: i just dont think that code warranted it [18:36] Aria: Yep, https://github.com/aredridel/html5/ [18:37] sveimac has joined the channel [18:37] mikeal has joined the channel [18:38] bingomanatee_: Aria === Aredridel? [18:38] Aria: Yes. [18:38] pyrotechnick: i dont get what is HTML5 about a HTML parser [18:38] pekim has joined the channel [18:39] bingomanatee_: how ready for use is node-irc? [18:39] wookiehangover: is there a node equivalent of bundler? [18:39] Aria: It kinda works. I need another chunk of time to polish it. [18:39] tjholowaychuk: wookiehangover: npm bundle [18:39] wookiehangover: tks [18:39] tjholowaychuk: wookiehangover: or https://github.com/visionmedia/ndistro [18:39] tjholowaychuk: is similar [18:39] tjholowaychuk: I suppose [18:39] tjholowaychuk: i dont know exactly what bundler does [18:39] tjholowaychuk: but im assuming it does what these do :) [18:40] wookiehangover: ndistro looks like it covers what I want [18:40] wookiehangover: yehuda wrote bundler, so I does more than you need it too ;D [18:40] tjholowaychuk: pff [18:40] tjholowaychuk: <-- has little respect for yahuda [18:40] tjholowaychuk: I think hes overrated lol [18:40] pyrotechnick: likewise [18:40] pyrotechnick: i listened to the changelogshow [18:41] pyrotechnick: the one where he was on it [18:41] tjholowaychuk: I dont disrespect him, but I dont think hes all that great [18:41] tjholowaychuk: just talks alot [18:41] pyrotechnick: and he was like "node is a toy. theres very little practical application of node" [18:41] tjholowaychuk: anyone who does lots of conferences will get big [18:41] tjholowaychuk: pff [18:41] drudge: tjholowaychuk: not currently possible to remove the buttons in the bottombar atm, we're open if you want to help us redesign tho :) [18:41] pyrotechnick: then at the end of the show he was like "we're going to use this cool async java framework to build the sproutcore server" [18:41] tjholowaychuk: drudge: oOoO :) [18:41] pyrotechnick: i almost vomited in my mouth [18:41] wookiehangover: he's just got a kevin smith I'm-a-know-it-all attitude [18:42] tjholowaychuk: pyrotechnick: haha yeah and he came on here bitching about the module system and how things are not global [18:42] wookiehangover: but he's written a few good lines of code here and there [18:42] tjholowaychuk: I havent seen him write anything decent [18:42] tjholowaychuk: thor sucks [18:42] pyrotechnick: merb [18:42] pyrotechnick: merb was decent [18:42] tjholowaychuk: meh [18:42] pyrotechnick: i wish it never merged with rails [18:42] pyrotechnick: we used to use it [18:42] tjholowaychuk: fails slightly less than rails [18:42] drudge: i mean you have to give it to him [18:43] pyrotechnick: the ruby community is fucked [18:43] drudge: node can't do anything.. right guys? [18:43] MikhX has joined the channel [18:43] pyrotechnick: yeah node sucks [18:43] pyrotechnick: its like [18:43] pyrotechnick: for proxies and irc servers and thats it [18:43] pyrotechnick: i heard u cant even fork a process because they want to support windows [18:43] pyrotechnick: how embarrassing [18:44] bingomanatee_: pyrotechnik: maybe we can add VIMM (vomiting in my mouth) to ROFL and LOL. [18:44] pyrotechnick: bingomanatee: id like that [18:44] pyrotechnick: I VIMMd when i heard yehuda prefers java async over node.js [18:44] shakefon has joined the channel [18:45] drudge: java HAH [18:45] pyrotechnick: async java [18:45] pyrotechnick: is even more ha [18:45] pyrotechnick: async java makes me want to just leave this planet because i have to share it with people with such bad ideas [18:45] pyrotechnick: async java is like — svn: "CVS done right" [18:46] pyrotechnick: it's just not a good idea, it never was and it never will be [18:46] pyrotechnick: but have fun with that [18:46] pyrotechnick: i'll be busy not sucking hard [18:47] tjholowaychuk: haha hes using a parser gen for handlebars [18:47] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: connect/router.js normalizePath() is exactly what I needed, but it doesn't put optional parameters (like ".format?") into the keys[] array. I must be missing something... [18:47] tjholowaychuk: that is pretty newbish its such a tiny lang [18:47] sveimac has joined the channel [18:47] muhqu has joined the channel [18:47] tjholowaychuk: hunterloftis: ".:format?" ? [18:47] tjholowaychuk: forget the :?? [18:47] pyrotechnick: i love the handlebars slogan [18:48] pyrotechnick: Logic-less templates. [18:48] pyrotechnick: sorry mustache [18:48] pyrotechnick: same shit [18:48] pyrotechnick: Set Delimiter [18:48] pyrotechnick: Set Delimiter tags start with an equal sign and change the tag delimiters from {{ and }} to custom strings. [18:48] pyrotechnick: it literally has logic [18:48] pyrotechnick: for setting the logic [18:48] pyrotechnick: of the logic of the language [18:49] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: damn it, yeah thanks [18:49] pyrotechnick: everyone [18:50] pyrotechnick: https://github.com/visionmedia/express/commit/365b7fe90a539971043f0050181b0dcf320285ef [18:50] hunterloftis: hunterloftis: copying and pasting too much today [18:50] pyrotechnick: come and join the party [18:50] tjholowaychuk: ahahaha [18:50] tjholowaychuk: quite the party [18:50] davidwalsh has joined the channel [18:50] pyrotechnick: ill get some cake [18:52] arpegius has joined the channel [18:53] pyrotechnick: there you go [18:53] cardona507 has joined the channel [18:53] bingomanatee_: Every time I see a code specific cat fight I think to myself, "Now there's a nerd who should have taken Karate in high school"... [18:54] pyrotechnick: but … but … asynchronous java? cmon… [18:54] tjholowaychuk: bingomanatee_: it comes natural, programmers like to bitch lol [18:54] tjholowaychuk: not sure why [18:54] tjholowaychuk: I havent slept in weeks so I have an excuse [18:54] pyrotechnick: ive been drinking [18:54] pyrotechnick: hence the cake [18:55] pyrotechnick: one should never drink github [18:55] maushu has joined the channel [18:55] pyrotechnick: githubbing under the influence has led to many inappropriate commit comments [18:55] Max-Might has joined the channel [18:56] pyrotechnick: TJ it has come to my attention that express doesn't have an ASCII logo in the README [18:56] bingomanatee_: Many careers have been damaged by /** I can't believe my asshole boss made me follow his stupid ****ing api. Good thing he never reads commit messages */ [18:56] pyrotechnick: i feel it's my duty to inform you that a project's not legit until it does have one [18:56] tjholowaychuk: haha this is true [18:57] tjholowaychuk: I still dont know if express means expressive of like ... a train [18:57] tjholowaychuk: haha [18:57] tjholowaychuk: im going with the non-train because trains are not so exciting [18:57] pyrotechnick: so it's like [18:57] pyrotechnick: express yourself [18:57] tjholowaychuk: its a mystery [18:57] pyrotechnick: like yes johnny, you can take ballet classes if thats what you truly want to do [18:57] bingomanatee_: you could use a (\) "not" icon over a printing press. [18:57] bingomanatee_: (ex press) [18:58] tjholowaychuk: haha [18:58] pyrotechnick: you could have [18:58] pyrotechnick: a button [18:58] pyrotechnick: and it says [18:58] pyrotechnick: DO NOT PRESS [18:58] pyrotechnick: and if u do [18:58] pyrotechnick: then [18:58] pyrotechnick: it uninstalls node [18:58] pyrotechnick: and installs php [18:59] softdrink: s/php/asp.net [18:59] pyrotechnick: hey i used to be a mono dev [18:59] bingomanatee_: Why not Grails? [18:59] pyrotechnick: it's not too bad [18:59] pyrotechnick: yeah grails is up there [19:00] bingomanatee_: I think it says something for your progammming language when you have to write a scripting layer to make it accessible. [19:00] pyrotechnick: grails is actually proof that when bad ideas collide the result is much much shitter than the sum of all parts [19:00] bingomanatee_: antigestalt [19:01] pyrotechnick: you said it [19:01] pyrotechnick: thatd be a sick library name [19:02] pyrotechnick: isaacs: rename npm to gestalt [19:03] wookiehangover: hey gang quick question: why all the leading commas? [19:03] pyrotechnick: where [19:03] wookiehangover: in general [19:03] pyrotechnick: in requires? [19:03] hunterloftis: wookiehangover: like in an object literal [19:03] hunterloftis: ? [19:03] softdrink: geseundheit [19:03] bingomanatee_: and what does this number here do? [19:03] Aikar: wookiehangover: its some peoples coding style [19:03] pyrotechnick: put some in here, without a pastebin [19:03] pyrotechnick: paste a whole shitload of code to show us what you mean [19:03] hunterloftis: wookiehangover: theory is, it makes it easier to see when you've forgotten a comma. Some people love it (I think it's kinda ugly) [19:04] Aikar: agreed [19:04] pyrotechnick: i thought it was so that u cud just append lines and the comma wasnt part of the last line but you know i hate it with a passion [19:04] pyrotechnick: <3 coffeescript [19:04] Aikar: use an editor or IDE with syntax checking and youll know when you forgot a comma ;) [19:05] softdrink: yeah i'm not a fan of the leading comma [19:05] pyrotechnick: long long ago [19:05] pyrotechnick: in the times before coffeescript [19:05] pyrotechnick: there existed a practise of including commas and semicolons in your javascript [19:05] pyrotechnick: we call these times 'the dark times' [19:05] frodenius: lol [19:06] pyrotechnick: a time we'd never much like to revisit [19:06] Aikar: i call those the proper times ;) [19:06] softdrink: i don't need another step between me and the browser. just sayin'. [19:06] softdrink: ;) [19:06] JusticeFries: a better time [19:06] pyrotechnick: there's nothing 'proper' about javascript [19:06] pyrotechnick: never was, isnt, never will be [19:06] JusticeFries: heh coffeescript. [19:06] JusticeFries: heh. [19:06] JusticeFries: that's all I have to say. [19:06] pyrotechnick: its fine if you're just targeting node.js like most of you are [19:06] pyrotechnick: but if you're writing cross-platform code [19:06] pyrotechnick: then you may as well use coffee [19:06] wookiehangover: use a toy [19:07] JusticeFries: its like me making a language that compiles into ruby because I couldn't hack it in ruby [19:07] pyrotechnick: coffee is a 'toy' as much as node is a 'toy' [19:07] pyrotechnick: TBBH [19:07] jonaslund has joined the channel [19:07] pyrotechnick: JusticeFries: it's not about "hacking it" [19:07] pyrotechnick: its about being implementation agnostic [19:07] bingomanatee_: In the 90's PC people dismissed the Mac as a "toy computer". [19:07] wink_: you're getting more drunk aren't you? [19:07] softdrink: also i hate significant whitespace with a burning passion [19:07] pyrotechnick: and abstracting the bad parts of the language away in a fashion that doesnt effect performance [19:08] softdrink: <—whitespace nazi [19:08] pyrotechnick: yeah [19:08] pyrotechnick: good [19:08] bingomanatee_: Ironic as now the PCs in my house are basically just a front end for steam. [19:08] pyrotechnick: TBH i hope coffeescript remains niche [19:08] pyrotechnick: it gives us an edge [19:08] softdrink: especially when the spec recommendations say "use four spaces". i'm looking at YOU python! [19:08] pyrotechnick: and keeps the noobs out of the community [19:09] wookiehangover: I'm gonna write an addition to coffee script that uses regex to let me write all my code in sonnets [19:09] bingomanatee_: you code with negative space? [19:09] JusticeFries: shakespeare.js? [19:09] softdrink: tabs to indent, spaces to align. [19:09] pyrotechnick: wookiehangover: you could do it as a DSL\ [19:09] bingomanatee_: I would love to create a programming language that requires iambic pentameter. [19:09] void_ has joined the channel [19:09] pyrotechnick: LOL [19:09] pyrotechnick: haiku [19:09] softdrink: speaking of esoteric languages: http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ [19:09] pyrotechnick: haiku-lang.org [19:10] mjr_: In school I made a language where whitespace was the only significant element, and all non-whitespace was ignored. [19:10] bingomanatee_: "dammit, whats a two syllable word that rrhymes with 'insert'? " [19:10] void_: hi is there any mongo odm for node? [19:10] softdrink: ACTION ports everything to lolcode [19:11] herbySk has joined the channel [19:11] pzich: bingomanatee_: inert [19:11] pzich: alert [19:11] pyrotechnick: the i/o is asynchronous [19:11] pyrotechnick: blocking calls, they do not [19:11] pyrotechnick: blessed are those who node [19:11] pzich: :D [19:12] pekim: bingomanatee_: pervert [19:13] pyrotechnick: wow [19:13] pyrotechnick: i was a fan of erlang until i had to build it [19:13] tjholowaychuk: haha [19:13] pyrotechnick: it took over half an hour on an i7 [19:13] tjholowaychuk: yeah that is the worst part [19:13] pyrotechnick: do you guys use couch? [19:14] pyrotechnick: i was going to have a play with it in node but NO WAY MAN [19:14] pyrotechnick: i just dont have that long and wouldnt ask my comrades to install such a mammoth piece of ass [19:14] Aikar: was going to but benchmarks looked too slow, and couchdbs mission just doesnt seem to fit my needs, so going with mongo [19:14] wink_: PyroPeter: there are a fair number of couch fans around here [19:14] pyrotechnick: i had to end a skype call because of how noisy my cpu fan was while it compiled [19:15] Aikar: id rather not have to rely on third party versions like bigcouch to use it [19:15] pyrotechnick: that's jsut not cool [19:15] fugoki has joined the channel [19:15] fugoki has left the channel [19:15] sonnym has joined the channel [19:15] pyrotechnick: Aikar: lulz you're worried about third party extensions in an environment like node.js [19:15] Aikar: no [19:15] frodenius: pyrotechnick㇀ well then get a new fan [19:15] bingomanatee_: void: you mean orm I take it and mongoose is the gold standard. It is however, somewhat vaporware. [19:15] pyrotechnick: right just in general? [19:15] Aikar: third party fork [19:15] pyrotechnick: frodenius: it's a MBP [19:16] pyrotechnick: hence the mic being so close to the fan [19:16] frodenius: ah [19:16] void_: bingomanatee_: thanks. And I mean ODM - object-document mapper, Mongo is document database, not relational [19:16] wookiehangover: dude you should get a dell [19:16] wink_: did i miss the boat on this, why is there a need for an ORM for mongo specifically? [19:16] frodenius: yea that's a weakness of mbp's [19:16] wink_: its documents are stored json [19:16] pyrotechnick: what [19:16] pyrotechnick: MBPs have no weaknesses [19:16] frodenius: heh [19:16] pyrotechnick: it's not a weakness [19:16] JusticeFries: linux forever [19:16] void_: wink_: I thought I could use some mapping to objects, like in Rails [19:17] void_: wink_: or is that a bad idea? [19:17] aurynn: You could learn to write SQL. [19:17] aurynn: :) [19:17] wink_: void_: your js objects would map directly into a mongo document, why do you need a helper for it? [19:17] frodenius: what else? a non-feature? [19:17] HAITI has joined the channel [19:17] pyrotechnick: it's an intentional design flaw integrated into the macbooks by steve himself to force people to upgrade in the future [19:17] void_: wink_: It will map to hashes and arrays right? [19:17] wink_: yes [19:17] pyrotechnick: it's all part of the master plan [19:17] frodenius: yeah, one could say that [19:17] pyrotechnick: the iWorldOrder [19:17] wink_: mongo stores your documents in json (essentially) [19:17] void_: and in Rails I have models that are representing entities [19:17] wink_: there is already a 1:1 mapping there [19:18] void_: I'm not working with plain hashes/array [19:18] bingomanatee_: void_: I have a VERY basic odm for MongoDB - its not as sophisticated as Mongoose but it is much more low level. And there is a mongo library in node. https://github.com/christkv/node-mongodb-native [19:18] pyrotechnick: void_: where do you point? [19:18] wink_: nooooooo mongodb-native is terribly slow :< [19:18] pyrotechnick: void_: where do you point? [19:18] void_: pyrotechnick: Well I'm just used to orm/odm [19:18] wink_: and pretty useless for large datasets [19:18] pyrotechnick: void_: what happens if i dereference you? [19:18] pyrotechnick: do you point to 0x000000 [19:19] pyrotechnick: will you segfault? [19:19] saschagehlich has joined the channel [19:19] void_: lol :D [19:19] bingomanatee_: wink_ : isn't it the basis for mongoose? [19:19] wink_: yes, and it breaks my heart [19:19] wink_: everytime i see [19:19] wink_: it [19:19] wink_: i just died a little more, fyi [19:19] bingomanatee_: so what is the "better" library that is faster ? [19:19] pyrotechnick: the best database ever [19:19] pyrotechnick: is going to be like node-dirty [19:20] pyrotechnick: where its actually part of the node process [19:20] void_: pyrotechnick: you know the rules and so do I [19:20] pyrotechnick: and it scales beautifully with the application processes [19:20] wink_: bingomanatee: there are some bindings to the c libs, check out orlandov's github [19:20] pyrotechnick: mark. my. words. [19:20] pyrotechnick: it will be the shit when people realise it [19:20] ashb: if isaacs turns up let him know i'll be back shortly [19:20] bingomanatee_: okay sweet. [19:20] pyrotechnick: ashb: [19:21] pyrotechnick: he got TJ to rename markdown [19:21] tjholowaychuk: ye ye [19:21] softdrink: i have a sneaking suspicion that wordnet is about to consume a lot of my development time. [19:21] pyrotechnick: so if u republish ur library [19:21] pyrotechnick: as markdown [19:21] pyrotechnick: then itll be all good [19:22] pyrotechnick: but we'll let that sexkitten know you'll be back [19:22] bingomanatee_: wink_: its VIMM. we are pushing VIMM today. [19:23] wink_: ? [19:23] pyrotechnick: i found out libffi can only do C and i VIMMd [19:23] pyrotechnick: tjholowaychuk: are u guys using node-ffi for anything [19:23] tjholowaychuk: nope [19:24] pyrotechnick: i wrote bindings to bullet physics with it, thank god it had a c API [19:24] pyrotechnick: worked pretty nicely [19:24] pyrotechnick: about 90% the speed of native c [19:24] bingomanatee_: (Vomited In My Mouth) [19:24] wink_: ahh [19:24] bingomanatee_: @10:43 [19:25] isaacs has joined the channel [19:25] pyrotechnick: isaacs: [19:25] pyrotechnick: ashb said he'll be back [19:25] isaacs: ah, i see this [19:25] bingomanatee_: <-- selling T-shirts reading "VIMM@10:43" on cafe press [19:25] pyrotechnick: and he said to tell you that he loves you long time [19:25] isaacs: i have ircretary tell me when anyone mentions my name [19:26] pyrotechnick: yes [19:26] pyrotechnick: but there were things [19:26] pyrotechnick: terrible things [19:26] pyrotechnick: that he whispered to me in private [19:26] aurynn: node-ffi does look really neat [19:26] pyrotechnick: so ircretary wouldnt have been able to tell you about those [19:26] pyrotechnick: node-ffi worked flawlessly for me [19:27] nefD has joined the channel [19:27] pyrotechnick: i still had to write c++/c but that's only because bullets c api is incomplete [19:28] mikew3c_ has joined the channel [19:29] Huvet has joined the channel [19:29] pyrotechnick: anyone know any redis GUIs? [19:29] mjr_: you should make one with node! [19:29] femtoo has joined the channel [19:30] tjholowaychuk: i thought about doing that too [19:30] pyrotechnick: id help [19:30] pyrotechnick: tj do you want to seed it [19:30] tjholowaychuk: im down [19:30] pyrotechnick: cool [19:30] pyrotechnick: ill get my javascript on lol [19:31] Huvet: hi! I'm very new to node.js and would like to try to run a client-side bookmarklet on the server-side. I've tried requiring it, but it throws up on the window object (even though I load jsdom before), and I've tried loading it with createElement, but that doesn't work with local scripts. Any ideas of what I should try next? [19:31] EyePulp has joined the channel [19:32] pyrotechnick: Huvet: can you show us any code? https://gist.github.com/ [19:32] pyrotechnick: it's a bit hard to know what might be the problem when we're completely blind [19:33] pyrotechnick: im sure there's alot of people here who could help but it's a bit much to ask busy noders to ask you about the problem and search for the code, if you throw the problem in their face with stack traces etc then they're more inclined to be able to help [19:33] Huvet: it's only one line (so I hope it's ok to paste here): var document = require("jsdom").jsdom(), window = document.createWindow(), readability = require("./readability.js") [19:33] pyrotechnick: its ok with me ;) [19:34] pyrotechnick: paste 100 if you like [19:34] Huvet: the readability script is from here: http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.js [19:34] Huvet: heh :) [19:34] wink_: he'd be ok with you posting the entire node source tree [19:34] pyrotechnick: yeah in fact i recommend it [19:34] Huvet: :) [19:34] pyrotechnick: we could all talk about how fucking sweet every line is [19:34] wink_: lets see some of that v8 template hotness [19:35] pyrotechnick: does google c++ use templates? [19:35] Huvet: ehem, yeeess.... and now back to me :) [19:35] Huvet: <- [19:35] pyrotechnick: v8 compiles reasonably fast [19:35] sh1mmer has joined the channel [19:35] pyrotechnick: and has quite a flat structure [19:35] mjr_: V8 is C++ and uses templates all over the place. It's probably the best use of templates in C++ I've seen. [19:35] pyrotechnick: id be surprised if it makes heavy use of templates [19:35] pyrotechnick: really? [19:35] Huvet: I need my brain slapped into "this is how you should think about running client side scripts with node.js" [19:36] pyrotechnick: it must be nicely structured [19:36] mjr_: Yeah, I guess they have some smart guys working on V8 or something. [19:36] wink_: one or two im sure [19:36] maushu has joined the channel [19:36] pyrotechnick: Huvet: tj is using jsdom for his testing framework. cant say i've used it directly [19:36] pyrotechnick: yeah [19:36] pyrotechnick: probs just one [19:36] tjholowaychuk: yeah [19:36] tjholowaychuk: what [19:36] tjholowaychuk: lol [19:37] pyrotechnick: we're deciding how many devs google has on v8 [19:37] bingomanatee_: http://www.cafepress.com/MyLinkedFace [19:37] pyrotechnick: we think one or two [19:37] bingomanatee_: Done! [19:37] pyrotechnick: wats the @10:43 party [19:37] pyrotechnick: part* [19:38] Huvet: tjholowaychuk: where do I start learning how to run javascript written for the client-side in node.js? [19:38] pyrotechnick: is that when yehuda said he'd rather use async java? [19:38] aurynn: Handling commits asynchronously is complex. [19:38] pyrotechnick: http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.js [19:38] pyrotechnick: var document = require("jsdom").jsdom(), window = document.createWindow(), readability = require("./readability.js") [19:38] pyrotechnick: tjholowaychuk: [19:39] Huvet: ReferenceError: window is not defined [19:39] pyrotechnick: huvet: i havent used jsdom but i know that require wont have access to window [19:39] Huvet: an, was hoping for a way to throw in a context dict somehow [19:39] Huvet: ah* [19:40] tjholowaychuk: Huvet: this is my call this.window = jsdom.jsdom(wrap(html), null, options).createWindow(); [19:40] tjholowaychuk: lol jsdom.jsdom [19:40] tjholowaychuk: awesome api [19:40] bingomanatee_: pyrotechnick: the birth time of VIMM [19:41] pyrotechnick: bingomanatee: i remember when i first VIMMd [19:41] pyrotechnick: it was a rather warm monday night [19:41] bingomanatee_: pyrotechnick: I can design a custom T for your first VIMM if you like. [19:42] pyrotechnick: i was comfortably slouched over my laptop, mindlessly hacking away at some badass node when i noticed a new changelogshow in my rss feeds [19:42] pyrotechnick: what is this [19:42] pyrotechnick: i asked myself [19:42] Huvet: tjholowaychuk: that's awsome, I'll try it. [19:43] pyrotechnick: oh yehuda, this should be good, i didnt mind merb, *play* [19:43] Huvet: what's "wrap"? [19:43] bingomanatee_: its a bwack thing. [19:43] tjholowaychuk: Huvet htmlparser doesnt support frags I guess so you have to wrap with etc [19:44] Huvet: ah, so wrap just adds a bit of around the fragment, I see [19:45] cafesofie has joined the channel [19:50] x0xMaximus has joined the channel [19:53] pHcF: is there any way to create a global variable in nodejs? [19:55] sveimac has joined the channel [19:55] isaacs has joined the channel [19:55] bingomanatee_: any property assigned to global is a "global variable" [19:55] bingomanatee_: eg. global.foo = "bar"; [19:56] bingomanatee_: console.log(foo) // "bar" should work from anywhere [19:56] bingomanatee_: This and other gems can be found at http://nodejs.org/docs/v0.2.5/api.html [19:57] bingomanatee_: though that particular feature isn't quite clear in docs. 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[20:27] hunterloftis: pzich: guess so, was hoping for like... path(string).filename or something [20:28] pzich: perhaps there is, but I don't know of it if there is [20:28] _mql1 has joined the channel [20:28] dnolen has joined the channel [20:29] papandreou has joined the channel [20:30] codehero: hmm [20:31] codehero: my simulator was working great until I increased the load and the gc killed some of the response time intermittently [20:32] mraleph: do not allocate garbage [20:32] mraleph: it is the best strategy [20:32] jchris has joined the channel [20:32] mraleph: currently available [20:33] Me1000 has joined the channel [20:33] codehero: haha [20:33] codehero: what if you simulate garbage [20:33] mraleph: simulate garbage? [20:34] codehero: well I simulate regular communications and some garbage characters [20:34] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: weird jade question [20:34] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: in a script block: | var something = passed_jade_object.property (of course won't work) [20:34] softdrink: i wish macvim had a way to throw a webkit view in a split window [20:34] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: How do we get passed_jade_object to evaluate? [20:35] mraleph: o_O jokes aside: what is the heap size? what --trace-gc shows? [20:35] sh1m has joined the channel [20:36] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: Or is the best way just != "var something = " + passed_object? [20:36] sepehr has joined the channel [20:38] mraleph: codehero: --trace-gc --trace-gc-nvp together might be even more helpful to understand whats going on. [20:41] herbySk has joined the channel [20:43] foertel has joined the channel [20:43] foertel: hey ho [20:45] softdrink has joined the channel [20:47] tjholowaychuk: hunterloftis: hey back. use | var something = !{JSON.stringify(myobj)} [20:47] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: baller, thanks! [20:47] hunterloftis: other way seems to work also but could get hectic with all the string concatenation [20:52] tjholowaychuk: haha [20:52] tjholowaychuk: yeah [20:53] foertel: what's best way to make node.js talk to an usb-device? [20:53] aurynn: write node-usb! [20:54] vineyard has joined the channel [20:54] isaacs: aurynn, foertel: schakko already did. [20:54] isaacs: npm install usb [20:54] aurynn: listen to isaacs, for he is knowledgable of all things. [20:55] bingomanatee_: Yeah but he looks taller in IRC. [20:55] eee_c has joined the channel [20:55] devinus: am i just NOW learning about security, or what stops people from using man in the middle attacks against about every website that uses a cookie/token system out there...? o.O [20:56] devinus: time to put everything behind https.... [20:56] isaacs has joined the channel [20:56] foertel: ah, isaacs thanks [20:56] foertel: https://github.com/schakko/node-usb/ [20:56] foertel: will try that [20:56] nilcolor has joined the channel [20:57] tjholowaychuk: mjr_: for the redis errors do you not throw new Error() ? [20:57] tjholowaychuk: I get an error but its not instanceof Error and messing up some error reporting [20:58] tjholowaychuk: well i guess not throw, but new Error() :p [20:58] kolor has joined the channel [20:58] jbaron has joined the channel [21:04] foertel: ah isaacs see you had your issues with node-usb ;) [21:05] bingomanatee_: are there any IDEs that are particularly good with JS? [21:05] foertel: cloud9ide ;) [21:06] sh1m has joined the channel [21:06] kolor: komodo edit 6 [21:06] jetienne has joined the channel [21:08] mauritslamers has left the channel [21:08] ashb: tjholowaychuk: thanks again for giving us the 'markdown' namespace in npm [21:08] tjholowaychuk: ashb: no problem [21:09] fmeyer has joined the channel [21:09] pgte has joined the channel [21:14] beta__ has joined the channel [21:14] Alex3000 has joined the channel [21:14] JimBastard has joined the channel [21:14] robert_c has joined the channel [21:20] bingomanatee_: What do you have to do to create your own streaming class? [21:20] bingomanatee_: i.e., something that would work with sys.pump(r, w, c) [21:21] jimt_ has joined the channel [21:24] tswicegood: bingomanatee_: implement an object that's an EventEmitter [21:25] tswicegood: and end() for the WriteStream and destroy() for the ReadStream [21:25] foertel: isaacs: did you get this node-usb thing to work? [21:25] foertel: for me it worked with just soft-linking the libusb files to /usr/lib [21:25] pgte: bingomanatee_: read sys.pump and implement the needed methods of that class [21:26] tswicegood: bingomanatee_: https://github.com/ry/node/blob/master/lib/util.js#L335 <-- the code is pretty straight forward (note that that's the 0.3.x code) [21:26] bingomanatee_: thx. [21:26] isaacs has joined the channel [21:26] mjr_: tjholowaychuk: I do this.emit("error"), which should translate into a new Error if uncaught. [21:26] tswicegood: looks like 0.3.x and 0.2.x are the same though, just util.pump vs. sys.pump [21:26] jimt has joined the channel [21:27] riven` has joined the channel [21:27] tjholowaychuk: mjr_: but for example client.get('foo', function(err) ... err was not an Error for me [21:27] tjholowaychuk: I didnt typeof but I think it was just a string [21:27] mjr_: ohhh [21:28] hunterloftis: How do you guys feel about PUT/DELETE etc methods? Like, is there a real benefit from emulating delete with a hidden POST field, or is it better to just map POST to "/whatev er/:id/delete"? [21:28] mjr_: tjholowaychuk: maybe I sent back a string in some cases? I'll have to look. [21:29] grim_fandango has joined the channel [21:29] mjr_: Which is probably the right thing to do. [21:29] tjholowaychuk: hmm I wouldnt think so [21:29] grim_fandango: Hi [21:29] mjr_: But shouldn't you check for err's truthiness or lack of being null? [21:29] pgte: hunterloftis: I prefer the first one [21:29] hunterloftis: pgte: What gives you your preference? [21:29] pgte: because you can use it with a client that implements a DELETE [21:29] tjholowaychuk: mjr_: yeah but a bunch of error handling related apis rely on .stack etc [21:30] tjholowaychuk: its not a HUGE deal I can just new Error(msg) them [21:30] hunterloftis: pgte: but in reality, you have to emulate delete anyway since many browser don't, right? [21:30] tjholowaychuk: just wanted to let you know [21:30] hunterloftis: browsers* [21:30] sudoer has joined the channel [21:30] grim_fandango: Folks, I'm wondering if anyone else has had problems with node_mailer? (aka mailer). I am using it to send a templated email but instead of actually connecting to the designated SMTP server mailer is just spitting out the (template-completed) email to the console. Is this a known problem? [21:30] mjr_: tjholowaychuk: yeah, thanks. I'll fix it up. Those err's should be actual Error objects. [21:30] pgte: hunterloftis: are you using express? [21:30] hunterloftis: pgte: yeah [21:30] foertel: ah ok node-usb is not working [21:30] foertel: :D [21:30] pgte: there is a middleware for that [21:30] foertel: for me on mac os x [21:31] pgte: that overrides the request method [21:31] hunterloftis: pgte: with methodOverride; but on the client side, I'll still need a hidden form field for delete, for example [21:31] pgte: \ [21:31] pgte: on browsers yes [21:31] pgte: but if you are providing a remote API [21:31] pgte: you get it for free [21:31] jimt_ has joined the channel [21:33] juye has joined the channel [21:34] pgte: hunterloftis: not convinced? [21:34] hunterloftis: pgte: lol well I'd be convinced if I were targeting anything other than browsers [21:34] hunterloftis: pgte: but this is 100% browser app [21:34] cardona507 has joined the channel [21:35] pgte: well, when designing routes I try to think about resources and try to build an API that has an HTML counterpart [21:35] cardona507 has joined the channel [21:36] hunterloftis: pgte: yeah everything is already resource-based, it's mostly the details I"m implementing now [21:36] hunterloftis: pgte: Like, DELETE /whatever/:id or POST /whatever/:id/delete [21:36] hunterloftis: pgte: Either way it's no big deal, just wanted to get other opinions [21:36] cardona507 has joined the channel [21:41] kriszyp has joined the channel [21:46] JimBastard: hey isaacs whats the command for showing installed npm packages? i always forget [21:47] isaacs: JimBastard: guess. [21:47] JimBastard: npm ls@installed? [21:47] isaacs: no @. just a space [21:47] isaacs: npm ls installed [21:47] JimBastard: i really need to make that npm cheat sheet [21:47] JimBastard: thanks isaacs [21:47] isaacs: you can also add on --no-reg and --no-desc to make it faster [21:47] JimBastard: all this snow has frozen my brain [21:48] JimBastard: isaacs: so i have like 4 versions of this one lib installed via npm link, is there any easy way in ls to determine the directory location of the package? [21:49] isaacs: npm explore tag, which then gets escaped out.
[21:53] tjholowaychuk: i do as well
[21:53] ashb: isaacs: wrapping it why?
[21:53] isaacs: i could also do " "+doc.split(/\n/).join(' \n')
[21:53] isaacs: ashb: so that it doesn't parse the plain text as markdown
[21:54] isaacs: (which is usually just one big unhelpful paragraph)
[21:54] ashb: don't quite follow. got an example url?
[21:54] isaacs: ashb: http://ndoc.no.de/coffee-script
[21:54] ashb: and the raw markdown?
[21:55] isaacs: well, it's not markdown, that's the rub of it
[21:55] isaacs: it's just a plain text file
[21:55] isaacs: but it's simpler to kinda turn it into markdown rather than have a different renderer.
[21:55] ashb: oh but you just want to abuse the autolinkification basically?
[21:55] isaacs: well, not even that
[21:55] isaacs: i just wanna have a single code path for the view
[21:56] isaacs: rather than adding more to the logic in the template
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[21:56] isaacs: but indenting 4 spaces is not any harder than wrapping in
[21:56] ashb: short answer you'r going to have to write a bit of code somewhere or go back to discount i'm afraid
[21:56] JimBastard: hrmm looks like the new npm broke broodmother
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[21:57] ashb: isaacs: another option is to just create an ast with the single pre node in
[21:57] ashb: and bypass parsing entierly
[21:57] isaacs: yeah...
[21:57] ashb: thats a bit more of a if/else though
[21:57] isaacs: i really don't wanna know too much about this template.
[21:57] ashb: yeah
[21:57] isaacs: i want it to kinda Just Work.
[21:58] isaacs: and it *mostly* does, which is nice.
[21:58] ashb: right now the quickest is to just prepend ' '
[21:58] isaacs: yep
[21:58] isaacs: that works. http://ndoc.no.de/coffee-script
[21:59] isaacs: hmm... er... not really, i guess...
[21:59] ashb: hmmm yeah its stopping half way through.
[21:59] JimBastard: isaacs: did you mess with npm.commands.list(['installed'], function (err, packages) { at all?
[22:00] isaacs: JimBastard: no, that should work, too
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[22:00] isaacs: JimBastard: as long as you do npm.load({config}, function (er) { ... })
[22:00] JimBastard: it keeps bombing out on Object.keys(packages).filter , ill investigate vurther
[22:00] JimBastard: Object.keys called on non-object
[22:00] JimBastard: but its totally returning
[22:00] JimBastard: odd
[22:00] isaacs: oh, weird
[22:01] ashb: isaacs: welcome to the world of markdown parser issues: http://bit.ly/hPeEOe
[22:02] ashb: though it seems like most of them treat it how it would be expected
[22:02] isaacs: yeah
[22:03] softdrink: what version of node does cloud9 require?
[22:03] isaacs: it looks like the empty line is making it break
[22:03] void_: how do I change port on which node starts? and which is defualt?
[22:03] grim_fandango: Folks, I'm wondering if anyone else has had problems with node_mailer? (aka mailer). I am using it to send a templated email but instead of actually connecting to the designated SMTP server mailer is just spitting out the (template-completed) email to the console. Is this a known problem?
[22:03] isaacs: void_: there is no default. server.listen(port[, hostname])
[22:03] isaacs: hostname default is 0.0.0.0 (any)
[22:03] void_: oh sure
[22:04] void_: I just copy pasted some code and I thought I set port in command line like rails
[22:04] void_: now I see it's in js code
[22:04] ashb: isaacs: hmmm in the console doing m.parse(" foo\n \n bar\n") seems to DTRT
[22:04] ashb: [ 'markdown', [ 'code_block', 'foo\n\nbar' ] ]
[22:04] JimBastard: isaacs: it looks like the format that npm returns from list changed
[22:04] isaacs: JimBastard: yeah
[22:05] isaacs: JimBastard: it only returns *matched* packages now
[22:05] JimBastard: Object.keys(packages[package].versions) => Object.keys(packages[package].data.versions)
[22:05] isaacs: JimBastard: it used to return everything all the time
[22:05] JimBastard: the "data" attribute
[22:05] isaacs: that too
[22:05] JimBastard: thats the breaking change here i think
[22:05] isaacs: ahh
[22:05] isaacs: kewl
[22:05] JimBastard: is that old change?
[22:06] softdrink: hey there's that jimbastard kid
[22:07] JimBastard: sup softdrink , kinda busy today
[22:07] softdrink: are you still involved with Faker.js?
[22:07] ashb: isaacs: oh actually its the =\n at the start that messes it up
[22:07] JimBastard: yeah i maintain that softdrink
[22:07] softdrink: excellent.
[22:08] ashb: er wait thats me i think
[22:09] softdrink: soooo i ended up writing my own faker-like js lib because i needed *repeatable* random results. do you want me to work that into faker?
[22:09] softdrink: (it'd be a bit of a refactor unfortunately)
[22:09] ashb: isaacs: i think you might be doing somthing wrong with your split/join as I can't reproduce that behaviour in the console
[22:09] JimBastard: softdrink: i dont understand repeatable random
[22:10] JimBastard: softdrink: is it a fork?
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[22:10] JimBastard: the data part of faker is decoupled from the logic, so you could make your own "randomizer" if you wanted based on the data sets
[22:10] softdrink: well, Math.random() sucks in that it can't be seeded. i needed the exact same results for given seeds
[22:10] softdrink: yeah i totally stole some of the data ;)
[22:10] JimBastard: softdrink: link? im not sure if i'd want to merge, but i'd like to see what you did
[22:10] JimBastard: stealing is good
[22:10] JimBastard: as long as the license says so
[22:11] softdrink: (i had to hack something together QUICK for something at work)
[22:11] JimBastard: i can see the benefit of what you are talking about i think
[22:11] softdrink: (and i do mean _hack_)
[22:11] softdrink: https://github.com/jocafa/Nonsense
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[22:12] JimBastard: softdrink: this is a bit much for me to digest right now, but if you can think of an easy way to implement this into Faker.js I can assist with the merging / docs / release / etc
[22:14] softdrink: the short of it: i needed to be able to instantiate nonsense generators arbitrarily, and instead of using Math.random() i'm using a pseudorandom number generator, and each instance of nonsense has its own generator
[22:14] JimBastard: i understand that part, its the implementation of the code i cant read though
[22:14] JimBastard: i like that idea though
[22:14] JimBastard: could be useful for testing
[22:14] softdrink: that's exactly why i needed it ;)
[22:15] JimBastard: fuck i shouldnt have updated npm lol
[22:16] softdrink: so basically, usage looks like: var ns = new Nonsense(); var dude = ns.firstName()
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[22:16] softdrink: and at any point, i can set the seed for a nonsense instance, so that i can get repeatable results
[22:17] JimBastard: yeah, it would be nice to be able to make the random seed configurable
[22:17] softdrink: fo sho
[22:17] softdrink: and no such luck for Math.random() :(
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[22:26] softdrink: how do you search for packages with npm? i must be blind.
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[22:27] devinus: softdrink: npm list ?
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[22:28] isaacs: softdrink: http://search.npmjs.org/
[22:28] isaacs: softdrink: or npm ls
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[22:30] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: Weird partials question. Partial within a collection of partials. So like: page.jade -> partial(_listitem.jade, list) -> _partial('listitemobject.jade', listitem) ... doesn't work unless we use list.listitem in the final partial. Damn that's hard to explain
[22:31] tjholowaychuk: uhh
[22:31] tjholowaychuk: haha
[22:31] isaacs: softdrink: you could use srand
[22:31] isaacs: softdrink: npm install srand
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[22:31] isaacs: softdrink: it doesn't affect Math.random() but then you can use srand.seed(0) and then srand.rand() will keep returning the same things in the same order
[22:32] tjholowaychuk: hunterloftis: based on those names you will have "listitem" and "listitemobject" lol
[22:32] tjholowaychuk: since you are not using { as: '' }
[22:32] tjholowaychuk: might wanna change it to partial('list
[22:32] tjholowaychuk: ') and partial('list/item')
[22:32] tjholowaychuk: to get "item" and "list"
[22:33] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: lol I think I didn't explain exactly right. It's difficult to convey
[22:34] tjholowaychuk: :D
[22:35] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: render('comments.jade', comments) -> partial('_comment.jade', comments) -> != comment.page (works) but partial('_page.jade', comment.page) -> works with page.page.property, but not page.property
[22:35] hunterloftis: Try saying that 5 times fast
[22:36] tjholowaychuk: ahahaha
[22:36] tjholowaychuk: hmm
[22:36] tjholowaychuk: are you 100% positive comment.page is proper?
[22:36] tjholowaychuk: because that looks fine to me
[22:36] hunterloftis: yep, comment.pag within _comment.jade outputs accurately
[22:36] hunterloftis: page*
[22:37] isaacs: ashb: ah, nvm about that bug. i'm dumb.
[22:37] hunterloftis: and if we output inspect(page) at the last step, it's the same as when we output inspect(comment) in the second to last step. It's madness! ;)
[22:37] isaacs: ' \n' is not right. needed to join with '\n '
[22:37] isaacs: duh
[22:37] ashb: was equal chance there's an edge case in the parser
[22:37] ashb: we've got most of them but its hairy in places
[22:37] isaacs: sure
[22:38] isaacs: markdown is not optimized for parsing.
[22:38] isaacs: it's optimized for human writing, which pretty much means it's damn near impossible to parse properly
[22:38] ashb: aye
[22:38] JimBastard: fuck MD
[22:38] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: Is it possible that we're colliding with parent data? Like, could a child "_page" partial rendering "page" objects be colliding with comments.page objects above?
[22:38] isaacs: and also means that everyone will want to use it for everything.
[22:38] isaacs: because it's so nice to write :)
[22:38] hunterloftis: tjholowaychuk: Anyway, we're using page.page.properties for now but I hate not figuring stuff like that out
[22:39] tjholowaychuk: weird man let me know
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[22:48] hunterloftis: Jade is caching some of its partials, so changes to partials don't make changes to the rendered stuff... even in development mode. We must be doing something wrong.
[22:48] isaacs: Wanna know what version of a module npm installed? require("some-module/package.json").version
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[22:49] hunterloftis: lol nevermind, my crazy teammates...
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[22:49] mscdex: sure, blame it on the teammates!
[22:49] mgutz: tjholowaychuk: for Express, do you have example of how to plugin a templa te engine that has asynchronous rendering?
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[22:53] hunterloftis: mscdex: usually, *I'm* the crazy teammate
[22:53] mscdex: :-D
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[23:06] pHcF: why is that?
[23:06] pHcF: v8: parseInt('lorem ipsum')
[23:06] v8bot: pHcF: NaN
[23:06] pHcF: v8: parseInt('lorem ipsum') == NaN
[23:06] v8bot: pHcF: false
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[23:12] Huvet: pyrotechnick, tjholowaychuk: Thanks for your help before... seems the magical line that does what I was looking for was: process.binding('evals').Script.runInNewContext(data, sandbox, script);
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[23:13] Huvet: just fetch the script with readFileSync, make a dict with the context, and give the file path to your script as file
[23:14] Huvet: sandbox will be transformed into your new context
[23:14] Huvet: fantasticamundo
[23:14] Huvet: *jumps up and down*
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[23:19] mraleph: pHcF: NaN is not equal to NaN by definition.
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[23:20] perezd: whats the best reading for diving deep into JS for node?
[23:20] perezd: JavaScript: The Good Parts?
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[23:24] softdrink: node-specific or js in general?
[23:24] isaacs_: perezd: JavaScript: The Definitive Guide
[23:24] isaacs_: perezd: or the ES5 spec
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[23:32] perezd: softdrink: well there probably are no node books right?
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[23:34] softdrink: not that i'm aware of, but i wasn't thinking of physical books hehe
[23:35] perezd: softdrink: I was hoping for ebooks :)
[23:35] perezd: Definitive Guide seems good...there is an updated rough cut version that talks about ES5
[23:35] perezd: how does the good parts differ from definitive ?
[23:35] perezd: if anyone knows lol
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[23:36] softdrink: the definitive guide is more of a reference… it's at least four times as thick ;)
[23:37] isaacs: perezd: the good parts is not intended as a guide to the language as a whole. also, js:tdg goes through a lot of browser-specific stuff like the DOM api, etc.
[23:37] isaacs: and, i mean, that's a huge part of javascript, so it needs to be in the guide to be "definitive"
[23:37] softdrink: Ugh! Why in the