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[00:11] k23z__: mikeal: what library is that ?
[00:12] mde: I'm going to guess OAuth. :)
[00:17] mikeal: node-oath
[00:18] mde: Bingo!
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[00:39] cloudhead: micheil: you there?
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[00:43] ryah: oh man, reading the commonjs packages thread
[00:43] ryah: scary
[00:44] ryah: happy not to be involved
[00:49] mikeal: i'm a little annoyed with that thread
[00:49] mikeal: the spec is actually damn near done
[00:49] mikeal: but people keep trying to either make it infinitely more complicated or rewrite it entirely
[00:52] ryah: "lib" dir
[00:52] ryah: seriously?
[00:53] ryah: i think something simple could be done almost immediately
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[00:53] ryah: { author: "Ryan Dahl", main: "src/postgres.js" }
[00:54] ryah: i think that's all that needs to be done for level-0
[01:00] mikeal: why author :)
[01:01] mikeal: the work i did forever ago was to move the vast majority of the spec from the required section to the optional section
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[01:14] CIA-76: node: 03Ryan Dahl 07master * r125b868 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Add message tests - http://bit.ly/9nNPgr
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[01:15] ryah: ^-- cool tests
[01:15] ryah: instead of checking return value, it checks output
[01:15] Tim_Smart: ryah: Does this load faster that the site from yesturday? http://timsmart.xen.prgmr.com:8000/
[01:16] ryah: i'm on my power connection nw
[01:16] ryah: but yes
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[01:23] mjr_: Curse this intermittent Internet.
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[01:35] cloudhead: how can I change the clientRequest timeout?
[01:36] brainproxy: hmm, so I have a config file which I bring in with require at the top level of my app.js
[01:36] brainproxy: like so
[01:36] brainproxy: var myCfg = require('/path/to/config').configHash;
[01:36] polotek: cloudhead: hmmm, haven't tried to do that yet
[01:36] brainproxy: then I can get at the config has attribs at the top level
[01:37] brainproxy: but what if I want to call on those same attribs within another script that I require from the top level
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[01:37] polotek: cloudhead: may not be supported on http.ClientRequest yet
[01:37] cloudhead: polotek: hmm, do you know of a way to catch an error which wouldn't trigger the response event?
[01:37] polotek: you can set it on the underlying stream I think
[01:38] polotek: cloudhead: ?
[01:38] polotek: brainproxy: just require it agian
[01:38] cloudhead: polotek: I'm doing a request, but the server is crashing, and I want to detect that on the client-side
[01:38] polotek: modules are cached so it won't run the code again
[01:38] cloudhead: either from a timeout, or some other sort of event
[01:38] polotek: you'll get the exact same object
[01:38] cloudhead: right now, the connection just hangs
[01:39] polotek: and you don't an "error" event at all?
[01:39] polotek: cloudhead: ah now I get it
[01:39] polotek: that's why you need timeout
[01:41] cloudhead: polotek: yea
[01:41] cloudhead: the error event doesn't seem to trigger
[01:42] polotek: with ServerRequest you can get the underlying socket with req.connection
[01:42] polotek: haven't tried it with clientreq
[01:42] cloudhead: hmmm
[01:43] cloudhead: request.connection works
[01:43] cloudhead: but
[01:44] cloudhead: I don't see a timeout key
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[01:48] polotek: cloudhead: it works
[01:48] polotek: req.connection.setTimeout(1);
[01:48] cloudhead: ahh it's a function
[01:48] polotek: req.connection.addListener('timeout', function...
[01:48] cloudhead: lemme try that
[01:49] polotek: also it seems like you still get the "response" event from the clientRequest object
[01:49] polotek: although I'm not sure what state it's in after a socket timeout
[01:49] cloudhead: hmmmm weird
[01:49] cloudhead: I must be having a different problem
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[02:03] kpx: Hi I was workin with Socket.IO chat example... Its was just not working the chat.html page in the  browser says conecting.... BUt does nothing.... What could be wrong? 
[02:03] k23z__: has anyone ever wrote a game server in Node.js ?
[02:04] kpx: k23z__: I believe there is asteroids in node js
[02:04] kpx: massivly parallel asteroids
[02:04] kpx: google it and see
[02:04] kpx: i guess
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[02:05] kpx: Any one for socket.IO?
[02:06] aaronblohowiak: is there a good way to have the same templates used with javascript and ruby?
[02:06] kpx: I placed some sys.puts code in the places where its accepting and sending messages but there is no o/p on the Command line?
[02:07] kpx: I am fairly new to this....
[02:09] polotek: aaronblohowiak: haml?
[02:09] Tim_Smart: Urgh I'm a noob. Has anyone here set up a domain name with prgmr.com ?
[02:09] polotek: kpx: sorry, haven't used socket.io at all
[02:10] kpx: There were quite a few people yesterday evening helping out....
[02:10] polotek: but send me your test code and I'll take a look
[02:10] kpx: Its on Git hub
[02:10] kpx: one sec
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[02:11] kpx: http://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO-node.git
[02:11] kpx: polotek: http://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO-node.git this I cloned
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[02:12] kpx: do use --reciurse
[02:12] kpx: do use --recuurse*
[02:12] kpx: damn --recurse*
[02:13] polotek: kpx: I mean I'll check out the test or demo code you are using
[02:13] kpx: Hmm that only
[02:13] kpx: its in the test directory
[02:13] kpx: chat.html file
[02:13] polotek: ah
[02:13] kpx: there is a server.js in there that is to be started forst.
[02:13] kpx: first*
[02:18] kpx: polotek: the http server started does echo a response on the CLI but looks like the socket.io is not doing anything...
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[02:21] polotek: kpx: what browser are you using?
[02:21] kpx: chrome and FF
[02:22] polotek: windows or mac?
[02:22] kpx: Linux
[02:22] kpx: Ubuntu
[02:22] polotek: :)
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[02:22] kpx: Why do you ask me the browser? Some other people have asked that too?
[02:23] kpx: why does that affect this app?
[02:24] kpx: any ways for the onClientConnect() method of the server i put a simple sys.puts to see if it was picking up connected clients...
[02:24] kpx: Zilch 
[02:24] kpx: Approx after line 45 in server.js
[02:26] polotek: kpx: it's working just fine for me
[02:26] polotek: chrome on the mac
[02:27] kpx: Oh Ditto!!!!!!!!
[02:27] kpx: Just got something
[02:27] kpx: I replaced the server name with http://localhost
[02:27] kpx: did you do the same?
[02:27] kpx: ??
[02:27] polotek: kpx: what did you have before?
[02:27] kpx: localhost
[02:27] polotek: no, I always run a local webserver with a domain
[02:27] kpx: ho http
[02:29] polotek: reason people ask about browsers is because only the newest chrome and ff support websockets
[02:29] polotek: it falls back to long-polling or some other methods in older browsers
[02:29] kpx: polotek: tell me something this what is the advantage of this socket.IO in your opinion?
[02:29] polotek: so depending on the browser there could be any of a number of things wrong
[02:30] polotek: kpx: compared to what? traditional ajax?  it's just better for real time
[02:30] kpx: polotek: Oh ok
[02:30] kpx: polotek: I actually wante to use it for multicasting
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[02:31] kpx: polotek: I believe a single instance of pure HTTP cant do t hat 
[02:31] kpx: polotek: As in when Written in nodeJs
[02:32] polotek: kpx: don't know a lot about multicast
[02:32] kpx: by multicasting i mean that respond only to selected clients not to everyone...
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[02:39] ryah: damn, that test i just commited doesnt work..
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[02:42] kodisha: just wanted to say that level of productivity when you write server side and client side in same language is amazing :)
[02:43] kpx: So someone can explain to me the bigger picture here ... this Socket.IO is meant to be a websocket server? Which I hear is the latest  "TCP for the Web"??
[02:45] Tim_Smart: Anyone here using prgmr.com on a domain?
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[02:48] k23z__: how do I use node-repl on a file.js ?
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[02:51] micheil: cloudhead: now.
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[02:51] micheil: k23z__: using a synchronous require client side is a really bad idea, because you can't actually guarantee anything.
[02:52] k23z__: ok
[02:52] kersny: k23z_: like using it to acces your app?
[02:52] k23z__: kersny: ya
[02:52] kersny: var repl = require("repl");
[02:53] kersny: repl.start("node> "); to use stdin
[02:53] kersny: but to actually access parts of the program you have to add them to the scope
[02:54] micheil: cloudhead: you can get the underlying socket for anything that is a http or net request.
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[02:54] kersny: repl.start().scope.m = function(msg){sys.puts(msg)};
[02:54] kersny: then you can call m('hello') from the prompt
[02:55] kersny: all the info: http://nodejs.org/api.html#repl-285
[02:57] polotek: anybody in here used the v8 profiler?
[03:05] micheil: hmm..
[03:05] micheil: my websocket server may bite me in the arse if some does a draft76 handshake but the upgradeHead is detached..
[03:06] polotek: micheil: I hate it when that happens
[03:06] JimBastard_: yo who knows about openAL and libao ?
[03:06] JimBastard_: me and tmpvar are trying to figure out whats the easiest / best way to get audio
[03:06] micheil: well, rather, the client would get in a broken state, wouldn't affect the server much
[03:06] JimBastard_: ive got this JSONloops program its sick
[03:06] JimBastard_: but i need a good audio pipe
[03:06] JimBastard_: ryah you know anyone i can bug?
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[03:14] bradleymeck: i know open al, why
[03:15] bradleymeck: programmer's guide is best way to tackle it still, sucks but tis true
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[03:18] JimBastard_: hey bradleymeck 
[03:19] bradleymeck: mmm?
[03:19] JimBastard_: so like, we just need a way to play a 24 bit wav file, with really low latency
[03:19] JimBastard_: stereo*
[03:19] JimBastard_: ive got http://github.com/Marak/JSONloops working, but its using afplay for its .play()
[03:19] JimBastard_: and its sad
[03:19] JimBastard_: but the sequencer is good to go
[03:20] cloudhead: micheil: hey, wanted to ask you about something you said a couple days ago about mongoose
[03:20] cloudhead: micheil: you said it couldn't do what it does and still be async
[03:20] cloudhead: I was curious to know what you were refering to
[03:20] bradleymeck: k, whats the question?
[03:21] JimBastard_: bradleymeck: whats the easiest way / path of least resistance to get node playing audio files with open al, or something similiar
[03:22] bradleymeck: alut + openal is pretty easy and cross platform, open up openal context -> open up default device -> make the buffers -> put buffers in sources -> add a listener -> play
[03:23] bradleymeck: sadly no audio lib seems to want to make things easy, alut is considered deprecated as it did things that were easy to do (but quite repetitive)
[03:23] JimBastard_: hrmmmm
[03:24] JimBastard_: so like i could make this thing work in the browser with HTML5 audio
[03:24] bradleymeck: html5 audio doesnt gen sounds :/ but you can pull down from server
[03:25] JimBastard_: all i need for the first iteration is the ability to play 24bit stereo wav files with uber low latency
[03:25] JimBastard_: html5 audio kinda sucks balls on latency
[03:25] JimBastard_: if i could get a pipe out of node, i could do crazy amounts of sequencing and looping
[03:25] JimBastard_: like javascript for audio sequencing is actually really bad ass
[03:26] JimBastard_: ive got probably 300 or so original beats waiting to get sliced up as JSONloops too
[03:26] JimBastard_: i do a bit of audio production
[03:26] bradleymeck: ill try to rig up a simple thing over the weekend where you can throw it a stereo buffer
[03:26] JimBastard_: dude that would be bad ass
[03:27] bradleymeck: platform of choice?
[03:27] JimBastard_: what would be easiest? i have a macbook over here
[03:27] bradleymeck: ill try to not use alut then
[03:27] JimBastard_: i think macbook would be best for proof of concept
[03:27] bradleymeck: macs dont support alut is the thing lol
[03:28] bradleymeck: so gotta write some junker code
[03:29] jwm: linux ftw :)
[03:29] bradleymeck: linux is deprecating it too T_T
[03:32] JimBastard_: cross platform would be ideal
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[03:32] JimBastard_: but like, mac os and <1ms latency for a audio play would be amazing
[03:32] JimBastard_: <20ms would still work
[03:32] JimBastard_: as long as it didnt spike over 100ms
[03:32] tmpvar: heh
[03:33] JimBastard_: at +200ms you cant listen to the audio, its too fucked up
[03:33] JimBastard_: 1/5 of a second off
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[03:35] jwm: why does audio have to be so much more complicated than video
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[03:37] bradleymeck: cause by nature ppl care more about pretty pictures?
[03:37] tmpvar: bradleymeck, what do you think about libao?
[03:37] bradleymeck: never used
[03:37] tmpvar: it looks pretty *simple*
[03:37] tmpvar: but might be good for a first round
[03:38] bradleymeck: i just like the support that openal has, its supported on almost everything
[03:38] tmpvar: sure
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[03:39] jwm: openal is better supported than opengl already?
[03:39] jwm: hehe
[03:40] JimBastard_: it looks like its building
[03:40] JimBastard_: libao
[03:41] JimBastard_: loaded as a module
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[03:42] kodisha: anyone have 2-3 minutes to check my node app? 
[03:43] kodisha: http://github.com/kodi/nodius  
[03:43] kodisha: checkout and run, and please tell me if do you see canvas charts auto updating in your browser 
[03:44] kodisha: 
ACTION is writing monitoring app

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[03:45] JimBastard_: bradleymeck: http://github.com/tmpvar/node-libao
[03:45] tmpvar: http://github.com/tmpvar/node-libao -- very first round
[03:45] JimBastard_: ahaha
[03:45] JimBastard_: pwnt
[03:45] mscdex: ahhh, it's times like this i love node's speed and async
[03:46] mscdex: watching tons of asterisk events fly by
[03:46] mscdex: ;-)
[03:46] tmpvar: nice
[03:46] falconair: kodisha: "Error: Cannot find module 'lib/Request"
[03:47] bradleymeck: cool, means less stuff on my plate, always good
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[03:49] JimBastard_: fuck, updating repo
[03:49] JimBastard_: ascii is almost done i might release him tonight
[03:49] JimBastard_: asciimo*
[03:49] JimBastard_: oops
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[03:54] bradleymeck: does libao not support capture?
[03:55] tmpvar: i dont think so
[03:55] tmpvar: its pretty minimal
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[03:57] bradleymeck: awww, well some other time ill spend time on openal, but that should fit jim's needs for now
[03:57] tmpvar: well
[03:57] tmpvar: even if we get openal.. we still need a way to load sounds heh
[03:58] bradleymeck: well we can fill buffers and pass em around
[03:58] tmpvar: yeah, but then you have to convert them
[03:58] JimBastard_: i hear sounds coming from tmpvar's machine ahh
[03:59] tmpvar: libao gives you a bunch of that for free
[04:00] bradleymeck: true, would have to make file support for a bunch of stuff but there are things already built to make raw buffers. The gains from openal for my interest are mainly for recording
[04:01] tmpvar: maybe im mistaken
[04:01] tmpvar: ah
[04:01] tmpvar: alut is supposed to be *decent*
[04:01] bradleymeck: it is decent, but macs no longer support it :/
[04:02] bradleymeck: and linux is also deprecating it
[04:03] tmpvar: fail
[04:04] tmpvar: i thought openal was the way to go.. i guess it is for playback/recording.. not file formats
[04:05] bradleymeck: yub meant for raw audio, king of that, fails at anything not raw :/
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[04:13] mscdex: i think my Asterisk instance got tired of me debugging my node script lol
[04:21] JimBastard_: i am asciimo
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[04:22] mscdex: zztmmo!
[04:23] bradleymeck: ...?
[04:23] JimBastard_: hee hee yeah i just updated zztmmo
[04:23] JimBastard_: for new node
[04:23] JimBastard_: we updated nodejitsu
[04:25] mscdex: yes but any actual new progress on zztmo?
[04:25] mscdex: :\
[04:25] JimBastard_: naah, that project has low priority 
[04:25] mscdex: psh
[04:26] JimBastard_: nefD and ryan[WIN] are the major contributors
[04:26] JimBastard_: once i got nodejitsu live ill have some more time to work on showcase apps though
[04:26] mscdex: Tim Sweeney is going to come after you with a comment like that
[04:26] JimBastard_: bring it
[04:26] bmizerany: how is the attitude towards waf around here?
[04:26] JimBastard_: 
ACTION knows javascript-fu

[04:26] JimBastard_: i like waffles
[04:26] mscdex: i don't particularly care for waf
[04:27] mscdex: but it has some nice things
[04:28] bmizerany: yeah.  I'm having a hell of a time getting it to do what I want.  
[04:28] mscdex: what's that?
[04:29] bmizerany: run a .rl through ragel before compiling the binding.cc
[04:29] mscdex: 
ACTION googles ragel

[04:29] bmizerany: mscdex: state machine generator.   the command I need is `ragel -G2 -o proto.cc proto.rl`
[04:30] mscdex: oh
[04:30] bmizerany: but I have a few .rl files.  I want to find the trick to just say %.rl like in Make
[04:30] mscdex: maybe use a glob in python
[04:31] mscdex: then loop
[04:31] bmizerany: mscdex: ug.  there is no nicer way in waf?
[04:31] mscdex: i dunno
[04:31] bmizerany: hrm
[04:31] mscdex: i'm not a python expert
[04:31] bmizerany: mscdex: I mean.. really? http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/wafbook/index.html#_a_compiler_producing_source_files_with_names_unknown_in_advance
[04:31] mscdex: i've used it once (besides waf) for educational purposes and that's about it
[04:32] mscdex: yeah heh many times i'd rather just have a Makefile
[04:33] bmizerany: mscdex: they talk about how make is flawed, then say that is how to handle a very common scenario.  pffft.
[04:33] mscdex: that's how to handle it in waf anyway ;-)
[04:33] bmizerany: unfortuantly, all the meat of building a node-addon is in waf
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[04:45] bradleymeck: i think the word pythonic should be outlawed, hear it too much, and will bring it up every time i see python
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[04:49] Tim_Smart: Can someone ping fostle.com and tell what ip they get?
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[04:54] JimBastard_: i know python
[04:54] JimBastard_: hissssssssssssss hissssssss
[04:55] Tim_Smart: I made a gtk gui in python. python is kinda nice
[04:57] mscdex: meh
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[05:03] tmpvar: gtk, meh
[05:03] tmpvar: python, meh
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[05:16] micheil: cloudhead: I was referring to the use of promises, which aren't truly async.
[05:16] tmpvar: huh?
[05:17] cloudhead: micheil: you're saying promises aren't async, or the kind mongoose uses?
[05:17] micheil: or, atleast, to make an async module act synchronously, you're adding in a lot of complexity
[05:17] cloudhead: cause promises sure are async
[05:17] micheil: it's like coroutines, from my perspective.
[05:17] cloudhead: but it doesn't act synchronously
[05:17] cloudhead: it takes a callback
[05:17] micheil: okay, wrong module, I was meaning what mongoose does
[05:18] cloudhead: that's what I said
[05:18] micheil: it's using a lot of extra stuff to try and make it look sync, and remove a lot of callback nesting
[05:18] cloudhead: isn't it just chained promises?
[05:18] micheil: I don't think it is.
[05:18] cloudhead: hmm
[05:18] cloudhead: cause they have a QueryPromise object
[05:19] cloudhead: I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to do in an async way
[05:19] cloudhead: just curious cause I might be implemented something like it
[05:19] micheil: it seems sync, also the code complexity is heaps.
[05:19] cloudhead: hmm
[05:22] cloudhead: it seems like it just lazily builds the query
[05:22] cloudhead: and on an 'action', like forEach or count, it dispatches the query
[05:23] micheil: hm..
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[05:27] micheil: cloudhead: put this way, anything that has to deal with a synchronous state in an async environment will have to be crazy
[05:27] micheil: (read SMTP clients)
[05:27] cloudhead: micheil: what is the synchronous state in the case of mongoose?
[05:28] micheil: it's been a while since I've read the code, but the way things are being handled & returned, it happens synchronously.
[05:28] cloudhead: hmm
[05:29] micheil: I may not even know what I'm talking about though, I work with protocols.
[05:30] cloudhead: hehe
[05:30] cloudhead: well, looking at the API, I'm pretty sure it can be done asynchronously
[05:30] cloudhead: whether mongoose does it properly or not that I don't know
[05:30] cloudhead: but it looks like it does
[05:31] cloudhead: for instance find() returns a QueryWriter instance, which just builds up a query
[05:31] cloudhead: then you exec()
[05:31] cloudhead: to send the db request
[05:31] cloudhead: the only fishy thing are the queues
[05:31] cloudhead:   User.find({username: 'john'}).exec().all(fn)
[05:31] cloudhead: this is fishy
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[05:32] cloudhead: but I think exec() just returns a promise here
[05:32] cloudhead: "A promise is a special object that acts as a queue if MongoDB has not resulted the results, and executes the methods you call on it once the results are available."
[05:33] micheil: yeah, it's really rather odd
[05:33] cloudhead: so essentially if you do find().first().last().first(), you're chaining promises
[05:33] cloudhead: they all return a promise
[05:34] micheil: yeah, I'm not a fan of it myself.
[05:34] micheil: personally I'll probably write a wrapper for mongo that allows me something similar to mongomapper
[05:34] cloudhead: hmm
[05:36] cloudhead: I think it's async though -- what's confusing is it'll queue up methods to be executed when the results are available
[05:39] ryah: hi
[05:39] micheil: hey
[05:45] Tim_Smart: This is weird. One minute my domain has the right IP address, then all of a sudden it reverts to the old ip
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[05:46] Aria: Mismatched primary and backup nameservers?
[05:48] Tim_Smart: Not sure. All 4 name servers on the registrar are set to the right service
[05:49] Aria: Yeah, but do they return the same data?
[05:49] Tim_Smart: Uh, where do I check/
[05:49] Tim_Smart: I'm don't do this very often
[05:50] Tim_Smart: *I
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[05:50] Aria: dig thedomain @thefirstnameserver, repeat @secondnameserver
[05:52] Tim_Smart: Yup, they do
[05:53] Tim_Smart: Maybe my ISP
[05:53] Tim_Smart: has a weird DNS
[05:54] Aria: If they mismatch, since those are direct queries, they don't involve your ISP's resolvers -- the data would be mismatched at the source.
[05:54] Tim_Smart: Aria: What does http://fostle.com/ load for you?
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[05:55] Aria: Google DNS gives servfail looking it up. So the HTTP connection fails.
[05:55] Tim_Smart: It should resolve to 68.68.99.215
[05:55] Aria: Yeah. It doesn't resolve at all.
[05:56] Aria: Querying directly, I get NOERROR -- otherwise known as "domain exists, but no record found"
[05:56] mscdex: NOERROR sounds like success :P
[05:57] Aria: Hehe. It does. And it is. "Yup. We successfully found nothing."
[05:57] mscdex: ;-)
[05:57] Tim_Smart: OK. Well I will wait for another hour or so, and see if was a case of jumping the gun
[05:57] Tim_Smart: http://ping.eu/ping/ pings the right ip
[05:57] Aria: Hehe. I'd carp now... DNS providers should stop enforcing slow updates.
[05:57] mscdex: fostle.com works for me
[05:58] Aria: Interesting. Regional-specific DNS?
[05:58] mscdex: heh
[05:59] mscdex: i'm using my automatic ISP-provided DNS servers
[05:59] Tim_Smart: Same. And I'm still resolving to the old IP ( 38.110.198.36 )
[06:00] Aria: Hm. Qwest's return good data, Google's return none.
[06:00] Aria: (205.171.2.65 vs 8.8.8.8 as resolvers)
[06:01] Tim_Smart: Oh well, http://www.opendns.com/support/cache/ returns the proper IP
[06:01] Tim_Smart: So I'm just going to wait for a bit
[06:03] Aria: Cool. Weird problem, in that it varies so much
[06:05] mscdex: yup
[06:06] mscdex: that's the interwebz for you
[06:06] micheil: Tim_Smart: if you're getting odd stuff from dns, try pointhq for managing it..
[06:06] micheil: I've used them for the past 6 months, and when it came time to move servers, I only had about 2 seconds downtime.
[06:09] Tim_Smart: micheil: It doesn't seem to have anyway of managing CNAME and MX records though
[06:09] Tim_Smart: atm I'm using dnsexit.com
[06:09] micheil: Tim_Smart: it does.
[06:09] micheil: Tim_Smart: at my domain name seller's site, it points to dns*.pointhq.com
[06:09] Tim_Smart: nvm, I'm blind
[06:10] micheil: then from there pointhq redirects cname, mx, txt, srv etc
[06:13] mscdex: too bad everydns.com was bought out and you can't register for free anymore :-\
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[06:33] Tim_Smart: micheil: OK I moved everything to pointhq
[06:35] micheil: k
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[09:20] micheil: JimBastard: do you have a library that can capture audio?
[09:22] Tim_Smart: Would be cool to get some gstreamer bindings in the ecosystem
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[10:49] k23z__: any possibility of putting a breakpoint on a particular line in a node.js script ?
[10:49] k23z__: and then firing up the whole thing
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[10:50] k23z__: so that it breaks when it reaches that
[10:50] k23z__: I dunno how to do that, any ideas ?
[10:50] Tim_Smart: while (true) {} hehe
[10:50] therp: sorry folks for the noob question, but how do I set the body of an outgoing POST request in the context of http.createClient?
[10:50] k23z__: while(true){//not false}
[10:51] Tim_Smart: therp: request.write(body);?
[10:52] therp: var client = http.createClient(...); request = client.request("POST",...); request.write("foo"); request.addListener(..) like that?
[10:53] Tim_Smart: therp: http://nodejs.org/api.html#http-client-177
[10:53] Tim_Smart: http://nodejs.org/api.html#http-clientrequest-182 in particular
[10:53] therp: ah! there is the "NOTE:"
[10:53] therp: thanks
[10:54] therp: .end() triggers all the actions
[10:56] jetienne: anybody to fix the "onclick" in nodejs side bar ? clicking doesnt change the # in the url... while it should. 
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[11:00] therp: Tim_Smart: thanks for the answer
[11:02] therp: one more question :) .. is there a way to make http.createClient + requests synchronous? In this particular case I prefer no callbacks
[11:02] therp: s/this/my/
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[11:08] Tim_Smart: therp: Nope, no sync version of http
[11:08] therp: is there way to spinlock? 
[11:09] therp: +a
[11:09] Tim_Smart: spinlock?
[11:09] therp: asyncWithCallBack(...,function() { ...; releaseSpinlock.up() }); while(releaseSpinlock.wait());
[11:10] therp: or similar..
[11:10] therp: or will something panic if the request handler doesn't return for a "long" time
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[11:17] Tim_Smart: therp: I'm not really following you :/
[11:23] therp: Tim_Smart: that's the idea http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=26369#a26369
[11:23] therp: ugly
[11:24] therp: sorry should have made that a bit more minial
[11:25] Tim_Smart: therp: Just listen for the 'end' event on the response
[11:26] therp: that would just give another listener .. you're missing the idea: to force http back to synchronous behaviour
[11:27] Tim_Smart: I don't think that would be possible
[11:29] Tim_Smart: therp: Whats the use case for sync http?
[11:29] therp: Tim_Smart: I'm querying the API of facebook, for some session key exchange..
[11:30] therp: well, it's not particularly special.. 
[11:30] therp: however there is no reason to be async here..
[11:30] Tim_Smart: Except for blocking your entire event loop
[11:31] therp: isn't nodejs multithreaded anyway?
[11:31] Tim_Smart: nope
[11:31] Tim_Smart: You code runs in a single thread
[11:31] Tim_Smart: *Your
[11:31] therp: uh.
[11:31] therp: well then.. gotta be async
[11:32] jetienne: in my opinion, async is good for perf, but sync is much more readable... so to write small scripts where perf is irrelant, this become quite a burden
[11:32] jetienne: so to provide sync and async is good :) 
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[11:33] Tim_Smart: jetienne: It all depends on how you write the code
[11:33] Tim_Smart: I use a parallel library I made, and my code is usually pretty light on nesting
[11:34] jetienne: Tim_Smart: do a simple open/seek/read/close in async, and then do it in sync. i have hard time believing the async version will be even closer to sync version
[11:34] jetienne: Tim_Smart: can you paste example of the result ?
[11:34] jetienne: with your lib i mean
[11:34] jetienne: maybe my style of coding is improper
[11:35] Tim_Smart: Read 4 different files, then write to 4 different file or something?
[11:35] Tim_Smart: I can make a quick example I guess
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[11:43] jsilver: yo
[11:43] jsilver: keyvan
[11:44] keyvan: sup
[11:44] jsilver: oh hey
[11:44] jsilver: pass the fuck out?
[11:44] keyvan: watching a vid
[11:44] jsilver: i drank redbull
[11:44] keyvan: lol 
[11:44] jsilver: lol
[11:44] keyvan: word
[11:44] jsilver: i will sleep soon
[11:44] jsilver: but im chillin now
[11:44] keyvan: cool
[11:44] jsilver: lol
[11:45] jsilver: #mindynamics is cool too
[11:45] jsilver: if ya dont wanna spam here
[11:45] keyvan: kk
[11:45] jsilver: ;)
[11:48] Tim_Smart: jetienne: In terms on LOC, you will never get shorter than sync code. Here is an async example using that lib: http://pastie.org/1011314
[11:49] Tim_Smart: *terms of
[11:52] jetienne: Tim_Smart: clearly nicer than my code :)
[11:53] jetienne: http://github.com/jeromeetienne/node-neoip/blob/master/tmp/oload_stress_test/ez_fileutils.js <- here is a open/seek/read/close i use
[11:53] jetienne: this is why i need to put that in a "library", i cant spread this kind of thing everywhere
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[11:56] Tim_Smart: jetienne: Parallel won't exactly fit that situation, but I might make a library that will
[11:57] Tim_Smart: creationix also made a library called step
[11:58] jetienne: Tim_Smart: nice :)
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[14:15] Tim_Smart: jetienne: http://github.com/Tim-Smart/node-parallel
[14:16] k23z__: Tim_Smart: what's that ?
[14:16] Tim_Smart: k23z__: Writing tasks that run stuff in parallel, or tasks similar to creationix's step
[14:17] Tim_Smart: I'll update the test.js with more examples
[14:22] caolanm: well, since we're pimping async modules ;) http://github.com/caolan/async
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[14:22] caolanm: I think we must have one each by now, heh
[14:31] Tim_Smart: Added more test cases :)
[14:33] caolanm: Tim_Smart: looks interesting, its a little hard to tell what's going on from the tests though
[14:33] caolanm: docs would be nice :D
[14:33] Tim_Smart: Hehe. I'm bad at docs
[14:35] caolanm: docs are hard work and boring
[14:35] caolanm: but oh so useful
[14:35] caolanm: heh
[14:36] Tim_Smart: caolanm: A little out of date (new Parallel is now new Task, and does have Sequence), but http://gist.github.com/438828
[14:37] Tim_Smart: *doesn't
[14:39] caolanm: Tim_Smart: yes, that's helpful :)
[14:40] caolanm: cool :)
[14:40] caolanm: dynamically adding tasks is neat
[14:40] Tim_Smart: yeah, its more suited for create multiple complex tasks, then running them at a later date, or multiple times
[14:40] Tim_Smart: *creating
[14:46] Tim_Smart: Right, I'm off. 'night
[14:46] caolanm: 'night
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[15:54] kuya: node has nothing like __nosuchmethod__ on objects does it?
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[16:08] micheil: kuya: nup, because v8 doesn't include it
[16:08] micheil: kuya: and v8, despite having patches for it, won't include it until webkit's javascript core implements it
[16:13] kuya: thanks micheil 
[16:13] micheil: no worries
[16:13] micheil: feel free to patch JS Core so v8 can get it
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[16:27] kuya: ill wait :)
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[16:38] jak: Hi, I got the geddy project from git, but when I run 'make install' I get the following output:
[16:38] jak: Error: {"message":"Command failed: chown: invalid user: `undefined:undefined'\n","stack":"Error: Command failed: chown: invalid user: `undefined:undefined'\n\n    at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (child_process:78:15)\n    at ChildProcess.emit (events:32:26)\n    at ChildProcess.onexit (child_process:128:12)\n    at node.js:221:9","killed":false,"code":1,"signal":null}
[16:38] jak: Anyone have any ideas?
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[16:50] mikeal: mde: ^^
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[18:22] MaSch: hi 
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[18:51] jak: hello
[18:53] jak: I got the geddy project from git, but when I run 'make install' I get the following output:
[18:53] jak: Error: {"message":"Command failed: chown: invalid user: `undefined:undefined'\n","stack":"Error: Command failed: chown: invalid user: `undefined:undefined'\n\n    at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (child_process:78:15)\n    at ChildProcess.emit (events:32:26)\n    at ChildProcess.onexit (child_process:128:12)\n    at node.js:221:9","killed":false,"code":1,"signal":null}
[18:53] jak: Anybody have any ideas?
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[19:07] sechrist: is there a way to get a variable between requires, like a global variable?
[19:07] sechrist: without explicitly passing it
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[19:09] tmpvar: jak, run sudo?
[19:09] tmpvar: sechrist, global is global ;)
[19:09] jak: @tmpvar yes running sudo
[19:14] sechrist: tmpvar: i beg to differ
[19:15] sechrist: if I define var blah and do requires
[19:15] sechrist: blah is not accessible
[19:15] sechrist: in the require'd code
[19:15] tmpvar: global.blah
[19:15] sechrist: oh oh lol
[19:15] tmpvar: :P
[19:15] tmpvar: jak, i'd try passing a user and group?
[19:18] sechrist: tmpvar: if I have a uncaught exception handler how do I print out a stack trace?
[19:19] caolanm: right, enough coding. pub!
[19:20] jak: Getting the same thing running as root
[19:24] tmpvar: sechrist, something like sys.puts(ex.stack))
[19:24] tmpvar: s/))/)
[19:27] jak: tmpvar, can you expand on that (passing a user and group)?
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[19:29] JimBastard_: if i add "*js-fu.js" to my .gitignore file, will that ignore all files that end in "js-fu.js" ?
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[19:35] jak: JimBastard_: yes
[19:35] JimBastard_: thanks
[19:35] JimBastard_: mscdex
[19:35] JimBastard_: javascript-fu!
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[19:42] JimBastard_: yo who the fuck maintains the brew repo for node
[19:43] JimBastard_: im putting you on notice
[19:43] JimBastard_: :p
[19:43] JimBastard_: people always complain to me that the homebrew node package doesnt work or something
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[19:47] kkaefer: anyone familiar with haml.js?
[19:47] kkaefer: I'm wondering what's wrong with this code: http://pastie.textmate.org/private/tbpkonrsc0gfq2kjavrfg
[19:48] kkaefer: I'm getting "Unexpected token else"
[19:49] JimBastard_: no idea kkaefer 
[19:49] kkaefer: doesn't happen if I leave out the "else"
[19:49] kkaefer: hmm, weird
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[19:57] JimBastard_: sup bradleymeck 
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[19:57] bradleymeck: mmmm? nm, sick so just watching netflix
[19:57] JimBastard_: ahahaha instant queue has the WORST movies EVER
[19:57] JimBastard_: we watch it nonstop here on xbox and bigscreen
[19:58] JimBastard_: pushed an update to JSONloops
[19:58] JimBastard_: http://github.com/marak/JSONloops
[19:58] JimBastard_: its a bit sorted out now, making it more a lib
[19:58] JimBastard_: instead of just a proof of concept
[19:58] JimBastard_: still trying to get that low latency play(mySound); going though
[19:58] JimBastard_: :-(
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[20:10] bradleymeck: libao isnt hitting it?
[20:17] JimBastard: http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/jsascii/
[20:17] JimBastard: i dunno bradleymeck i have no grasp on making a c add on
[20:17] JimBastard: it would take me months
[20:18] JimBastard: and i kinda know cpp lol
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[21:14] skampler: if(cookies[request.headers.cookie] ..)
[21:14] skampler: that was pretty easy :)
[21:15] JimBastard_: nom nom nom
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[21:46] namelessjon: bradleymeck: Just wanted to thank you once again for your help yesterday.  I now have a working implementation. :)
[21:49] tmpvar: namelessjon, what are you working on?
[21:50] namelessjon: tmpvar: Reimplementing the OpenRPG server in node.js.  Mostly to figure out how to write servers in node.
[21:51] tmpvar: ah, fun :)
[21:51] JimBastard_: sup tmpvar 
[21:51] tmpvar: yo
[21:51] JimBastard_: good morning
[21:51] tmpvar: ive been lurking ;)
[21:51] JimBastard_: ive been working
[21:51] JimBastard_: maushu has been jerking
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[21:53] maushu: wAT.
[21:53] tmpvar: man, I'm really close to having something that I've been brain-cracking over for a while now
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[21:54] namelessjon: tmpvar: Aside from all the xml, yeah, it has been interesting.
[21:55] JimBastard_: sup maushu 
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[21:56] maushu: jerking
[21:56] JimBastard_: classy
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[22:07] bradleymeck: whats the idea your working on tmpvar
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[22:30] kpx: Hi I was here yesterday and asked about socketIO... I am unable to make the chat example at http://github.com/LearnBoost/Socket.IO-node/blob/master/test/chat.html I am running chrome on Ubuntu
[22:30] kpx: There are no error in the JS debugger
[22:40] JimBastard_: nice
[22:40] JimBastard_: just deployed a nice site to nodejitsu
[22:40] JimBastard_: a new one*
[22:40] JimBastard_: should generate some traffic
[22:40] JimBastard_: best domain name evar
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[23:09] ncb000gt: JimBastard_: I like that all it outputs is Marak.
[23:09] ncb000gt: :)
[23:10] JimBastard_: fuuuuuu
[23:10] JimBastard_: what did you find ncb000gt 
[23:10] JimBastard_: i had to do something bad with a subdomain temporarily
[23:11] ncb000gt: o.0
[23:11] ncb000gt: I found awesomeness
[23:11] ncb000gt: and i'm not leaving!
[23:11] JimBastard_: its not ready yet
[23:11] ncb000gt: haha
[23:11] ncb000gt: ok
[23:11] JimBastard_: i still need more time
[23:11] JimBastard_: one sec ill show you something
[23:12] JimBastard_: http://i.imgur.com/hioYI.png
[23:12] ncb000gt: hah, nice!
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[23:13] JimBastard_: okay resized http://i.imgur.com/CDKZc.png
[23:13] JimBastard_: adding to readme
[23:15] JimBastard_: i had to do some unholy things to get this to work non-insanely
[23:15] JimBastard_: the codebase is still pretty fucked
[23:15] JimBastard_: but i reduced the fuxorzedness by at least 3 or 4 factors
[23:15] JimBastard_: -800 lines at last count
[23:16] JimBastard_: it works off http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIGlet fonts
[23:16] JimBastard_: if anyone knows where to get a database of those let me know
[23:16] JimBastard_: i have 311 atm
[23:16] JimBastard_: would love more
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[23:20] JimBastard_: kriskowal: do you know about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIGlet ?
[23:24] kriskowal: JimBastard_, no hadn't seen it. neat.
[23:24] JimBastard_: ive got the JS parser for FLF working in node and browser
[23:24] JimBastard_: im close to releasing
[23:24] JimBastard_: http://i.imgur.com/CDKZc.png
[23:24] JimBastard_: just looking for more fonts
[23:27] JimBastard_: lol 
[23:27] JimBastard_: dont troll ##linux
[23:27] JimBastard_: not advised
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[23:42] tmpvar: ".break	Sometimes you get stuck in a place you can't get out... This will get you out." -- hahah, really?
[23:44] JimBastard_: tmpvar: this might help actually http://gist.github.com/443256
[23:44] JimBastard_: javascript has GOTO now! huzaah!
[23:45] JimBastard_: just dont blog about it whatever you do
[23:45] JimBastard_: dont let people find out
[23:46] Tim_Smart: goto.. oh dear haha
[23:46] JimBastard_: im tempted to join #javascript and troll with that
[23:46] Tim_Smart: I updated * "node-parallel":http://github.com/Tim-Smart/node-parallel -- Create tasks in node.js that run in parallel, or sequences that run tasks one after another.
[23:46] Tim_Smart: oops copy paste fail
[23:47] JimBastard_: 
ACTION says this isnt twatter

[23:47] tmpvar: twatter?
[23:47] tmpvar: man, im exhausted
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[23:49] JimBastard_: yo tmpvar join #javascript
[23:49] JimBastard_: im all prepped up
[23:49] tmpvar: nah, im trying to get vmwgfx working with egl
[23:49] coderjones89: http://pastebin.com/40Gx4SbT
[23:49] coderjones89: come on
[23:49] coderjones89: okay well im doin git
[23:49] coderjones89: brb
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[23:53] coderjones89:  I'm trying to get JavaScript to work for this project to parse this XML but I don't really think that the JavaScript language is makes any sense. The GOTO implementation in JavaScript is really weird. http://pastebin.com/40Gx4SbT
[23:55] aho: just "continue" is enough... you don't need the label there
[23:55] aho: first time i've seen continue with a label :>
[23:55] aho: continue itself is sorta rare
[23:56] coderjones89: AHAHAH
[23:56] coderjones89: noo aho 
[23:57] aho: (break with a label isn't *that* uncommon though)
[23:58] JimBastard_: AHAHAH
[23:58] JimBastard_: pwnt #javascript
[23:58] JimBastard_: ahahah
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[23:59] aho: ?:>#
[23:59] JimBastard_: i just trolled them really ahrd with that
[23:59] JimBastard_: they got upset
[23:59] JimBastard_: i kept asking why i couldnt continue to the PARSE_XML label
[23:59] aho: heh